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report on 2000 cough


Michael G. McCarthy
 

I was "bounced" from the list too, at least temporarily. ?It seems messages were not being delivered as email in real time (but they were being posted to the eGroups website) and then suddenly I received a large batch were served to my email account. ?I don't know if any were skipped or not. ?(Generally, though, this eGroups thing is very reliable).

Regarding the "clicking" sound. ?I have it too, and have always had it during the time I've owned my EV (from about 75K miles to the present 100K miles). ?I have not been able to exactly pinpoint it (other than it's somewhere in the intake system I'm fairly sure), and it does seem "normal". ??

Does anyone else have this noise too?


Mike
'93 EV
Cincinnati

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From: "Cheryl Rose---Alakay Birds & More"
To:
Subject: [ev_update] report on 2000 cough
Date: Sat, Jun 3, 2000, 11:53 AM


I am back after somehow getting bounced off the list.....thanks to my email
server....

Well, I took the van in for it's 5000 miles maintenance and told them of the
"cough" problem as well as the sliding door rattle and also a clicking sound
sometimes heard at an idle..........want to know what they did? ?NOTHING!
The computer showed NO errors of any kind..........the "clicking" sound I
was told to be "normal"........and the rattle on the sliding door it "to be
expected"................geez!

Brent and Cheryl Rose
Alakay Whippets
Alakay's Birds & More
and Alakay Paints!!!
alakay@...




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J Henley
 

I don't know if it will make you feel any better about it, but I've had that
cough thing happen maybe 10 times since I bought this EVC. It never turned
into anything else and no mechanic has ever tracked it down.

Joan
SW FL
'97 EVC


Cheryl Rose---Alakay Birds & More
 

I am back after somehow getting bounced off the list.....thanks to my email
server<G>....

Well, I took the van in for it's 5000 miles maintenance and told them of the
"cough" problem as well as the sliding door rattle and also a clicking sound
sometimes heard at an idle..........want to know what they did? NOTHING!
The computer showed NO errors of any kind..........the "clicking" sound I
was told to be "normal"........and the rattle on the sliding door it "to be
expected"................geez!

Brent and Cheryl Rose
Alakay Whippets
Alakay's Birds & More
and Alakay Paints!!!
alakay@...


 

--- In ev_update@..., "Cheryl Rose---Alakay Birds & More"
<alakay@f...> wrote:
I am back after somehow getting bounced off the list.....thanks to
my email
server<G>....

Well, I took the van in for it's 5000 miles maintenance and told
them of the
"cough" problem as well as the sliding door rattle and also a
clicking sound
sometimes heard at an idle..........want to know what they did?
NOTHING!
The computer showed NO errors of any kind..........the "clicking"
sound I
was told to be "normal"........and the rattle on the sliding door
it "to be
expected"................geez!

Brent and Cheryl Rose
Alakay Whippets
Alakay's Birds & More
and Alakay Paints!!!
alakay@f...
I was at the dealer this weekend and looked at a 2000 EV MV, it was
beautiful. I really noticed one thing, when I closed the doors
(sliding especially) there was a solid "thump". Not a clunk but a
nice solid thump. I was impressed that VW finnaly put some
time/soundprrofing into their doors.

SeanG
95 EVC
80 Westy


 

--- In ev_update@..., "Cheryl Rose---Alakay Birds & More"
<alakay@f...> wrote:
Well, I took the van in for it's 5000 miles maintenance and told
them of the "cough" problem as well as the sliding door rattle and
also a clicking sound sometimes heard at an idle..........want to
know what they did? NOTHING! The computer showed NO errors of any
kind..........the "clicking" sound I was told to
be "normal" ........and the rattle on the sliding door it "to be
expected"................geez!

Brent and Cheryl Rose
Alakay Whippets
Alakay's Birds & More
and Alakay Paints!!!
alakay@f...
I've been told that unless the check engine light has come on and
stayed on, the diagnostics system does not log the fault code or any
other information. Fair enough. A lazy dealer service department
will say "No code, no problem," which isn't quite fair if the problem
has happened more than occasionally. On my 97, the cough eventually
gets more frequent so a code has eventually gotten logged, although
now that mine is in for the 4th time for this problem, the dealer is
taking my word for it, even though it didn't turn the light on after
multiple coughs over the weekend.

I'm not advocating speeding or reckless driving, but if you mash the
accelerator right after you feel the cough, you might get it to cough
again right away, which should log the code and turn the light on.
It's worked for me.

As for clicking, I hear it too, and have heard from this list that it
could be the normal sounds of the fuel injection system, even if you
can't always hear it. I haven't noticed mine changing or getting
worse, so I tolerate it or turn up the stereo.

As for the door rattle, I suggest you take it up with the dealer's
service manager, and if you don't get satisfaction, make noise with
VWoA. It doesn't always work, but some days they are more
sympathetic than others. You spent a lot of money on your EV, part
of which is attributable to warranty coverage, and you deserve to
have it repaired. If they refuse and the rattle is really annoying,
consider asking a good custom car audio shop about it. Even though
you'd probably have to pay for it, these guys usually have some good
vibration dampening products and techniques for reducing interior
noise from body cavities and panels.

Joel Funk
97 EVC
Still looking for effective cough medicine


Tim Kirwan
 

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I finally got my 99 MV, 20K, into the dealer to see if there was a code for the cough. There wasn't one recorded. He thought it sounded like a programming issue on some chip somewhere. At least I got it noted while under warranty. So far, it's only happened the one time.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Joel Funk [mailto:jmf@...]
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 2:41 PM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] Re: report on 2000 cough


--- In ev_update@..., "Cheryl Rose---Alakay Birds & More"

> Well, I took the van in for it's 5000 miles maintenance and told
> them of the "cough" problem as well as the sliding door rattle and
> also a clicking sound sometimes heard at an idle..........want to
> know what they did?? NOTHING! The computer showed NO errors of any
> kind..........the "clicking" sound I was told to
> be "normal" ........and the rattle on the sliding door it "to be
> expected"................geez!
>
> Brent and Cheryl Rose
> Alakay Whippets
> Alakay's Birds & More
> and Alakay Paints!!!
> alakay@f...

I've been told that unless the check engine light has come on and
stayed on, the diagnostics system does not log the fault code or any
other information.? Fair enough.? A lazy dealer service department
will say "No code, no problem," which isn't quite fair if the problem
has happened more than occasionally.? On my 97, the cough eventually
gets more frequent so a code has eventually gotten logged, although
now that mine is in for the 4th time for this problem, the dealer is
taking my word for it, even though it didn't turn the light on after
multiple coughs over the weekend.

I'm not advocating speeding or reckless driving, but if you mash the
accelerator right after you feel the cough, you might get it to cough
again right away, which should log the code and turn the light on.?
It's worked for me.

As for clicking, I hear it too, and have heard from this list that it
could be the normal sounds of the fuel injection system, even if you
can't always hear it.? I haven't noticed mine changing or getting
worse, so I tolerate it or turn up the stereo.

As for the door rattle, I suggest you take it up with the dealer's
service manager, and if you don't get satisfaction, make noise with
VWoA.? It doesn't always work, but some days they are more
sympathetic than others.? You spent a lot of money on your EV, part
of which is attributable to warranty coverage, and you deserve to
have it repaired.? If they refuse and the rattle is really annoying,
consider asking a good custom car audio shop about it.? Even though
you'd probably have to pay for it, these guys usually have some good
vibration dampening products and techniques for reducing interior
noise from body cavities and panels.

Joel Funk
97 EVC
Still looking for effective cough medicine


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Michael Wise
 

Now that I think about it, this has happened on my 99 EVC at least twice
in the 10-12K mile range. Hasn't happened since in about 3K miles.

This is sounding like more and more of an issue. I also have a '99
Jetta w/ a VR6 with about 15K miles on it now. It has never
exhibited this behavious. Could be something unique with the EVC
implementation of this engine...

--Mike Wise
Washington, DC
'99 EVC
'99 Jetta GLX
'00 Outback


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I finally got my 99 MV, 20K, into the dealer to see if there was a code for
the cough. There wasn't one recorded. He thought it sounded like a
programming issue on some chip somewhere. At least I got it noted while
under warranty. So far, it's only happened the one time.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Joel Funk [mailto:jmf@...]
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 2:41 PM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] Re: report on 2000 cough


--- In ev_update@..., "Cheryl Rose---Alakay Birds & More"
<alakay@f...> wrote:
Well, I took the van in for it's 5000 miles maintenance and told
them of the "cough" problem as well as the sliding door rattle and
also a clicking sound sometimes heard at an idle..........want to
know what they did? NOTHING! The computer showed NO errors of any
kind..........the "clicking" sound I was told to
be "normal" ........and the rattle on the sliding door it "to be
expected"................geez!

Brent and Cheryl Rose
Alakay Whippets
Alakay's Birds & More
and Alakay Paints!!!
alakay@f...
I've been told that unless the check engine light has come on and
stayed on, the diagnostics system does not log the fault code or any
other information. Fair enough. A lazy dealer service department
will say "No code, no problem," which isn't quite fair if the problem
has happened more than occasionally. On my 97, the cough eventually
gets more frequent so a code has eventually gotten logged, although
now that mine is in for the 4th time for this problem, the dealer is
taking my word for it, even though it didn't turn the light on after
multiple coughs over the weekend.

I'm not advocating speeding or reckless driving, but if you mash the
accelerator right after you feel the cough, you might get it to cough
again right away, which should log the code and turn the light on.
It's worked for me.

As for clicking, I hear it too, and have heard from this list that it
could be the normal sounds of the fuel injection system, even if you
can't always hear it. I haven't noticed mine changing or getting
worse, so I tolerate it or turn up the stereo.

As for the door rattle, I suggest you take it up with the dealer's
service manager, and if you don't get satisfaction, make noise with
VWoA. It doesn't always work, but some days they are more
sympathetic than others. You spent a lot of money on your EV, part
of which is attributable to warranty coverage, and you deserve to
have it repaired. If they refuse and the rattle is really annoying,
consider asking a good custom car audio shop about it. Even though
you'd probably have to pay for it, these guys usually have some good
vibration dampening products and techniques for reducing interior
noise from body cavities and panels.

Joel Funk
97 EVC
Still looking for effective cough medicine


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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Tim</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Joel Funk [<A href=3D"mailto:jmf@...">mail=
to:jmf@...</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 2:41 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: ev_update@...</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: [ev_update] Re: report on 2000 cough</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>--- In ev_update@..., "Cheryl Rose---Alakay =
Birds &amp; More" </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2><alakay@f...> wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Well, I took the van in for it's 5000 miles mainten=
ance and told</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> them of the "cough" problem as well as th=
e sliding door rattle and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> also a clicking sound sometimes heard at an idle...=
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> know what they did?&nbsp; NOTHING! The computer sho=
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> kind..........the "clicking" sound I was =
told to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> be "normal" ........and the rattle on the=
sliding door it "to be</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> expected"................geez!</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Brent and Cheryl Rose</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Alakay Whippets</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Alakay's Birds &amp; More</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> and Alakay Paints!!!</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> alakay@f...</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I've been told that unless the check engine light has com=
e on and </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>stayed on, the diagnostics system does not log the fault=
code or any </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>other information.&nbsp; Fair enough.&nbsp; A lazy deale=
r service department </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>will say "No code, no problem," which isn't qu=
ite fair if the problem </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>has happened more than occasionally.&nbsp; On my 97, the=
cough eventually </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>gets more frequent so a code has eventually gotten logge=
d, although </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>now that mine is in for the 4th time for this problem, t=
he dealer is </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>taking my word for it, even though it didn't turn the li=
ght on after </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>multiple coughs over the weekend.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I'm not advocating speeding or reckless driving, but if y=
ou mash the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>accelerator right after you feel the cough, you might ge=
t it to cough </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>again right away, which should log the code and turn the=
light on.&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>It's worked for me.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>As for clicking, I hear it too, and have heard from this =
list that it </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>could be the normal sounds of the fuel injection system,=
even if you </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>can't always hear it.&nbsp; I haven't noticed mine chang=
ing or getting </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>worse, so I tolerate it or turn up the stereo.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>As for the door rattle, I suggest you take it up with the=
dealer's </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>service manager, and if you don't get satisfaction, make=
noise with </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>VWoA.&nbsp; It doesn't always work, but some days they a=
re more </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>sympathetic than others.&nbsp; You spent a lot of money =
on your EV, part </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>of which is attributable to warranty coverage, and you d=
eserve to </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>have it repaired.&nbsp; If they refuse and the rattle is=
really annoying, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>consider asking a good custom car audio shop about it.&n=
bsp; Even though </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>you'd probably have to pay for it, these guys usually ha=
ve some good </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>vibration dampening products and techniques for reducing=
interior </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>noise from body cavities and panels.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Joel Funk</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>97 EVC</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Still looking for effective cough medicine</FONT>
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