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Intermittent Misfires on Startup


 

My 2002 EVC runs rough on startup but runs great after a minute or two.? I have a check engine light and the following fault codes:
  • 16524-Oxygen (Lambda)Sensor B1 S2 P0140b -35 - 00 - No Activity
  • 16684 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected P0300 - 35 - 10? - Intermittent
  • 16689 - Cylinder 5? P0305 - 35 - 10 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
  • 16687 - Cylinder 3? P0303 - 35 - 10 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
Because it runs fine after several minutes many of the obvious causes do not seem to be the problem.? I changed the spark plugs but the problem still exists.? I would appreciate any input about a possible cause.

Thanks,
Jim Loomis
2002 EVC


 

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When you changed the plugs did you look at them to see any thing different about 3 and 5 plug, they are next to each other at back engine. ? Could be a leak and it burns off. ?Could pull plug on coil and turn engine over than pull plug to see if damp. ??

On Apr 16, 2021, at 12:06 PM, jeloomispe via groups.io <jeloomispe@...> wrote:

?My 2002 EVC runs rough on startup but runs great after a minute or two.? I have a check engine light and the following fault codes:
  • 16524-Oxygen (Lambda)Sensor B1 S2 P0140b -35 - 00 - No Activity
  • 16684 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected P0300 - 35 - 10? - Intermittent
  • 16689 - Cylinder 5? P0305 - 35 - 10 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
  • 16687 - Cylinder 3? P0303 - 35 - 10 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
Because it runs fine after several minutes many of the obvious causes do not seem to be the problem.? I changed the spark plugs but the problem still exists.? I would appreciate any input about a possible cause.

Thanks,
Jim Loomis
2002 EVC


 

Suggests to me that you should change the lambda sensor and see where that takes it. They are consumables anyway (50k miles IIRC)

If you can read data then check temp sensors are reading something believable too.?
Le 16 avr. 2021 ¨¤ 19:30 +0200, Wigen via groups.io <chenely63@...>, a ¨¦crit :

When you changed the plugs did you look at them to see any thing different about 3 and 5 plug, they are next to each other at back engine. ? Could be a leak and it burns off. ?Could pull plug on coil and turn engine over than pull plug to see if damp. ??

On Apr 16, 2021, at 12:06 PM, jeloomispe via groups.io <jeloomispe@...> wrote:

?My 2002 EVC runs rough on startup but runs great after a minute or two.? I have a check engine light and the following fault codes:
  • 16524-Oxygen (Lambda)Sensor B1 S2 P0140b -35 - 00 - No Activity
  • 16684 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected P0300 - 35 - 10? - Intermittent
  • 16689 - Cylinder 5? P0305 - 35 - 10 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
  • 16687 - Cylinder 3? P0303 - 35 - 10 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
Because it runs fine after several minutes many of the obvious causes do not seem to be the problem.? I changed the spark plugs but the problem still exists.? I would appreciate any input about a possible cause.

Thanks,
Jim Loomis
2002 EVC


 

Thanks for your insight, which should have seemed obvious to me.? After looking at my maintenance records from 2017, it mentioned that the cylinders 3 and 5 spark plugs were wet with fuel.? At the time, a can of injector cleaner seemed to solve the problem.? I will try that again but it may be time for some new injectors.

Jim Loomis
2002 EVC


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From: Wigen via groups.io <chenely63@...>
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Sent: Fri, Apr 16, 2021 10:25 am
Subject: Re: [eurovanupdate] Intermittent Misfires on Startup

When you changed the plugs did you look at them to see any thing different about 3 and 5 plug, they are next to each other at back engine. ? Could be a leak and it burns off. ?Could pull plug on coil and turn engine over than pull plug to see if damp. ??

On Apr 16, 2021, at 12:06 PM, jeloomispe via groups.io <jeloomispe@...> wrote:

?My 2002 EVC runs rough on startup but runs great after a minute or two.? I have a check engine light and the following fault codes:
  • 16524-Oxygen (Lambda)Sensor B1 S2 P0140b -35 - 00 - No Activity
  • 16684 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected P0300 - 35 - 10? - Intermittent
  • 16689 - Cylinder 5? P0305 - 35 - 10 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
  • 16687 - Cylinder 3? P0303 - 35 - 10 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
Because it runs fine after several minutes many of the obvious causes do not seem to be the problem.? I changed the spark plugs but the problem still exists.? I would appreciate any input about a possible cause.

Thanks,
Jim Loomis
2002 EVC