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Caretaking Elders - EVCs approaching 200K
Greetings Fellow Travelers!
I come before our senior circle of EVC sages with a what-would-you-do question. Here's the backstory. A month ago, I was heading home from camping along the Lower Columbia and was north of Sunnyside when I saw smoke started billowing in my rear view mirror. I quickly pulled over, armed myself with my never-used fire extinguisher and tentatively popped the hood. Acrid smoke, not fire poured out. I saw that coolest had sprayed all over the compartment. Fearing the worst I called for a tow back to Wenatchee and spent the rest of day getting Angel to my mechanic's lot.?He called Monday morning to report that Angel had blown an O-ring but it was now fixed and was waiting to be picked up. A great ending, right? Yes, I was eleated by the outcome, but the episode spurred me to visit with Eric about what preventative work might be done to keep a?soon-to-turn-190,000K EVC running well? Eric says he sees manifold leaks and suggested removing and resealing the manifold covers as a possible next step. My question to you who are interested is, "What work would you invest in to minimize breakdown risk?" All the regular maintenance, and then some, has been done.? Thanks, Glen |
I just had my 2002 EVC overheat due to a seized tensioner on the serpentine belt.? The seized pulley destroyed the serpentine belt which runs the water pump.? I was lucky to be able to pull over and shut the engine down immediately after I got an alarm resulting in no engine damage.
Based on this experience, I would recommend replacing the tensioner.
Jim Loomis
2002 EVC 144,000 miles
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Ever notice how your appliance broke down right after the warranty expired?? That's because the way any given part fails is known as the bathtub curve. There will be more failures at the beginning of the service life and at the end of the service life with relatively few failures in the middle period for any given reliable thing.
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There is a measurement known as Mean Time Between Failure (MTBF) and by measuring that during testing a company can set the bathtub curve to start rising at the end of the warranty period by altering their manufacturing process and materials. The actual math is known as the Weibull equations set. Fortunately for us Volkswagen were diligent during manufacture and went for a slightly higher bar, but still there is the problem of components literally wearing out. Some thoughts: 1. Always purchase OEM parts only. Third party replacements will almost certainly contain lower quality ball bearings and materials. 2. It should not be too tough to go through our bills and note replacement items and mileage. In database form we could see an average failure rate on a component level if everybody contributed. 3. As parts supplies dwindle, we could get together as a group and arrange our own small quantity parts manufacturing - there is an emergent low volume manufacturing facility emerging on Etsy.com for 3D printed parts and it won't be long before that expands to radiator hoses and other small parts. Purchasing as a group rather than one-off will keep the prices down. 4. Premium AAA membership is a good thing! Jonathan? 1999 EVC 150K miles On Monday, April 19, 2021, 11:08:30 AM PDT, glencarlson@... <gc55@...> wrote:
Greetings Fellow Travelers! I come before our senior circle of EVC sages with a what-would-you-do question. Here's the backstory. A month ago, I was heading home from camping along the Lower Columbia and was north of Sunnyside when I saw smoke started billowing in my rear view mirror. I quickly pulled over, armed myself with my never-used fire extinguisher and tentatively popped the hood. Acrid smoke, not fire poured out. I saw that coolest had sprayed all over the compartment. Fearing the worst I called for a tow back to Wenatchee and spent the rest of day getting Angel to my mechanic's lot.?He called Monday morning to report that Angel had blown an O-ring but it was now fixed and was waiting to be picked up. A great ending, right? Yes, I was eleated by the outcome, but the episode spurred me to visit with Eric about what preventative work might be done to keep a?soon-to-turn-190,000K EVC running well? Eric says he sees manifold leaks and suggested removing and resealing the manifold covers as a possible next step. My question to you who are interested is, "What work would you invest in to minimize breakdown risk?" All the regular maintenance, and then some, has been done.? Thanks, Glen |
We have a 97EVC. During our last 2 trips from WA to CA (not Canada) we had issues. Since then I have had the radiator, thermostat sensor, and injectors replaced. We also had the head worked on which I take the blame for.?
The thermostat sensor still gives me a P118 code on the trusty ScanGuage.? Never have figured out why due to 2 shops giving me 2 answers but willing to sell me another part. Chandler in Pullman WA |
?The most likely things to fail, in some particular order are: 3) anything that rotates? And don’t despair! 200k is just middle age depending on your perspective :-) |
Phil
Glen That’s all I can think of for now but there’s more I’m sure. |
Nice phil that’s a good list. No affiliation but here’s a ?couple metal crackpipe listings: OEM p/n:?021121050C google is your friend, and so are more technical forums like VW Vortex and expanding your results by looking at ubiquitous VR6 Jetta platforms.?
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开云体育Connects between the thermostat housing and the back of the water pump. ?Runs along front of engine?Stephen? On Apr 21, 2021, at 8:23 AM, Richard Hom <rahom@...> wrote:
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Glen, may I make a suggestion regarding tranny overheat.? My 2000 Rialta has 180K mikes on the ODO.? Am the original owner.
Overheat had been a constant nag.? Now! Without a cooler, I no longer overheat the tranny on any type grade. IMHO the tranny design has flaw.? On a grade, and in order to maintain RPM an electric clutch is allowed to slip cycles (Apply/release.)? That's where the heat is generated. On each apply, a moment of friction heat is generated.? (The clutch is submerged in the Fluid.) The trick is to stay in solid lock overdrive mode as much as possible. On a long grade if your tranny is running hot, just slow down and MANUALLY downshift.? if the grade is very long just get behind the 18 wheeler and drive in D2. Its Ok even at 40 MPH, at the cost of a little wasted gas.) That keeps the engine unloaded leaving tyranny mostly in the solid lock mode.? If it's a shallow but very long grade (EG: Interstates Highway, D3 will work too.) A must is the tranny dipstick mod.? Every other year I hand pump out the old fluid thru the dip tube and replace with Havoline ATF the same amount. No need to drop the pan.? Easy and fast. Burnt fluid gets gummy and wrecks the valve body.? Burt 2000 rialta HD ? |
开云体育Phil and all Caretaking Elder responders,I want to thank each of you for the time and consideration of your broad-band expertise. I am impressed, but not surprised by the response, I have read similar answers year after year from this group. You EVC engineering sages keep the rest of us mechanical mortals on the road and running!? In response to your questions, Angel is 1997 EVC with 188K. I have owned her since 2003 and kept up maintenance as indicated below for the last seven year period. Maintenance/Service History for “Angel” 1997 VW Eurovan Camper? 3/30/2021 Eric’s European Auto Repair - Coolant leak - found temp sensor on thermostat housing leaking. Replaced O-ring 188,000 10/16/20 - All Seasons RV Norcold service.? 8/23/2020 - Eric’s European Auto Repair - Change Transmission oil 182,000 7/7/20 - ?Eric’s European Auto Repair LOF w/5W40 Synthetic 181,000 6/25/20 - NAPA - New battery 180,500 10/08/19 - Cascade Autocenter @178,726 LOF/Tire Rotation 02/07/19 - ?VW Kearny Mesa @ 169,968 Replace coolant bottle with cap/Replace left radiator fan 02/02/19 - Ventura VW Diagnose Coolant Temp Light @ 169,740 01/24/19 - Cascade Autocenter @ 168,296 LOF 08/10/18 - All Seasons RV Annual Fridge Maintenance 07/25/18 - Cascade Autocenter @164,737 LOF 06/26/18 - Auburn VW @ 163,026 Replaced both axles/boots with OEM parts 5/25/18 - Continental Auto Repair - Replace Left/Right Ball joints 4/13/18 - Continental Auto Repair - Replace Left Wheel Bearing @ 161, 7730 Replace Left Axle - Front/Rear Biltstein Shocks 2/6/18 - Continental Auto Repair - Replace All three Motor/Transmission Mounts @ 161,400 - Replace both Axles - ATF Synthetic Trans Fluid 10/18/17 - Cascade Autocenter - Nokian Entyre tires 225/60R16 @ 160,776 9/12/17 - Volkswagen of Duluth - Full Service Synthetic Oil Change @ 158,430 6/21/17 - ModuleMaster - VW Cruise Control Rebuild 4/17/17 - ?Holaday’s Custom Muffler - Repair Exhaust System 4/14/17 - ?Gustav’s German Auto -? Replace R/L Fnt Wheel Bearing/Tie Rods @ 150,747 4/14/17 - ?All Foreign Parts - Brake Retaining Spring & VW Coolant 4/13/17 - Cascade Autocenter - Front End Alignment @ 150,755 3/31/17 - Continental Auto Repair - Replace Timing Chain/Guide @ 149,589 Install Transmission Cooler, Replace Front Shocks (leaking) 3/31/17 - Battery Systems - Replace RV Battery 08/01/16 - Global Car Care - Replace Spark Plugs & Wires @ 149,037 08/05/15 - University VW Albuquerque - Front Brakes @ 145,095 07/14/15 - CAC Collision Center/Rear Ended @142,835 08/17/15 - Global Car Care - Replace Heater Hose Assembly @ 143,329 08/25/15 - Cascade Autocenter @143,366 LOF 12/09/15 - Cascade Autocenter @145,309 LOF 05/14/14 - Cascade Autocenter @139,400 LOF 04/09/14 - Cascade Autocenter - Nokian Entyre tires 225/60R16 @ 130,000 I will continue to pour over your recommendations and consider further you question on what I anticipate going forward.? Thanks again, g |
I’m the second owner of my 2000 EVW and bought it meticulously maintained with 395k miles on the odo. The eng was still original and the trans had been replaced under warranty around 65k iirc. It came with an inches thick stack of records and makes for a good case study of how to keep your Eurovan on the road over 200k miles.... I replaced the original VR6 eng shortly after purchase at 395k with the 1.9TDI eng and did the 5-spd 02B conv ?at the same time (the conv to Syncro/awd came later).? ? a couple interesting notes: This past winter at the well worn age of 481k miles I replaced the original radiator which had developed a small leak along the end cap union. ?
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