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'93 Eurovan needs an ECU


 

So I brought my EV weekender (5-speed) into a reputable shop to get the clutch replaced
and they did a fine job. Although 10 days later it died on me. I towed back to the shop and
they say it's the ECU. I found another ECU at a salvage yard and although I couldn't read the
O/E numbers - it came from another 5-speed EV so I purchased it and brought it in.

The shop said it was bad - so now I need to find a new one. The folks at SIA would rebuild
mine for $300. Does anyone have any suggestions?
__
Matthew in Boring, OR


dave_king_ev
 

Two bad ECUs in a row? Find another shop that understands diagnostics.

--- In ev_update@..., "Matthew" <cartographics@...> wrote:

So I brought my EV weekender (5-speed) into a reputable shop to get
the clutch replaced
and they did a fine job. Although 10 days later it died on me. I
towed back to the shop and
they say it's the ECU. I found another ECU at a salvage yard and
although I couldn't read the
O/E numbers - it came from another 5-speed EV so I purchased it and
brought it in.

The shop said it was bad - so now I need to find a new one. The
folks at SIA would rebuild
mine for $300. Does anyone have any suggestions?
__
Matthew in Boring, OR


jim black
 

Did they have the vag-com or equipment to enter in your VIN info? If not that could be a/the issue. Also, I have a '95 5 speed & one shop told me that it needed a new ECU. It turned out that the vaccum line from the ecu was accidentally pinched (by the shop) when they replaced the plastic cover on the ecu. Once the vacuum line was correctly routed under the plastic cover it ran fine. Good luck.
Jim

dave_king_ev <dave_king_ev@...> wrote:
Two bad ECUs in a row? Find another shop that understands diagnostics.

--- In ev_update@..., "Matthew" <cartographics@...> wrote:

So I brought my EV weekender (5-speed) into a reputable shop to get
the clutch replaced
and they did a fine job. Although 10 days later it died on me. I
towed back to the shop and
they say it's the ECU. I found another ECU at a salvage yard and
although I couldn't read the
O/E numbers - it came from another 5-speed EV so I purchased it and
brought it in.

The shop said it was bad - so now I need to find a new one. The
folks at SIA would rebuild
mine for $300. Does anyone have any suggestions?
__
Matthew in Boring, OR





Jim Black
Cardiff, CA


 

Hi Jim,

What have they done to test the ECU? There are a number of things
that can go wrong. I had a bunch of trouble with my ignition and
after many hours and rounds of testing I think the problem was bad
grounds, which caused the ECM to fail (twice, actually).

Have them double check the vacuum hose connection to the ECU and the
ECU wiring, in particular the grounds. One of the grounds in the ECU
wiring harness is to the engine block, could it have been detached
when they did the clutch and not put back? This is wire #29, Brown
with black stripe. There are 2 other grounds as well.

There's a document in the files section of the EV_update yahoogroup on
testing the ignition in 93 EV's. Go through these tests and see if
you find a "smoking gun".

Check for trigger signal in the low voltage wires to the coil, if
there is a signal there the ECM should be OK. The coil is a common
failure point in these EV's, according to the list.

If you do a search for stuff posted by "imothers_2000" you'll find a
bunch of questions and answers going back almost a year on this... the
first breakdown was just about a year ago now.

$300 for a rebuild is a good price. The only place I found who seemed
like they could rebuild mine wanted $500. Be cautious with rebuilders
- ask questions. I found out that many can't handle the German stuff,
they focus on US and Japanese units. It all sounded good on the phone
until I asked a few detailed questions.

Drop me a note if you need more info, I have more experience in this
area than I ever wanted!

Ian Mothersill
93 EV Weekender 5 Sp
Vancouver, Canada



--- In ev_update@..., jim blac<cvu1995@...> wrote:

Did they have the vag-com or equipment to enter in your VIN info?
If not that could be a/the issue. Also, I have a '95 5 speed & one
shop told me that it needed a new ECU. It turned out that the vaccum
line from the ecu was accidentally pinched (by the shop) when they
replaced the plastic cover on the ecu. Once the vacuum line was
correctly routed under the plastic cover it ran fine. Good luck.
Jim

dave_king_ev <dave_king_ev@...> wrote:
Two bad ECUs in a row? Find another shop that understands
diagnostics.

--- In ev_update@..., "Matthew" <cartographics@> wrote:

So I brought my EV weekender (5-speed) into a reputable shop to get
the clutch replaced
and they did a fine job. Although 10 days later it died on me. I
towed back to the shop and
they say it's the ECU. I found another ECU at a salvage yard and
although I couldn't read the
O/E numbers - it came from another 5-speed EV so I purchased it and
brought it in.

The shop said it was bad - so now I need to find a new one. The
folks at SIA would rebuild
mine for $300. Does anyone have any suggestions?
__
Matthew in Boring, OR





Jim Black
Cardiff, CA


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Joe R
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Ian Mothersill
To: ev_update@...
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 1:12 AM
Subject: [ev_update] Re: '93 Eurovan needs an ECU


"Hi Jim,

What have they done to test the ECU? There are a number of things
that can go wrong. I had a bunch of trouble with my ignition and
after many hours and rounds of testing I think the problem was bad
grounds, which caused the ECM to fail (twice, actually).

Have them double check the vacuum hose connection to the ECU "


I second Ian's trouble shooting procedured and will go one further. There's lso a short section of vacuum hose inside of the ECM. It goes from the nipple on the inside of the cover to a bellows mounted on the circuit board. That piece was bad on my 93 EV and caused it to run poorly and generate a code but did not totally stop it from running.

Joe R