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Hello Group,

Lovely, my Norcold in my 2002 EVC just stopped working... will begin
troubleshooting this coming weekend.

The previous owners were meticulous with the EVC and especially with
the Norcold refrigerator. I was reminded that this is a $3,000
refrigerator! They actually spent THAT MUCH MONEY over the previous
five years!!! Every time they had a glitch, it went to the Winnebago
folks... and each time it was another $600.

Anyway... the weird and very troubling symptom is that the propane
will light just fine and the green light will remain STRONG and
happy. But, there is no cooling. Nothing. Ditto on shore power and
on battery... no cooling at all. It used to ice up on the aluminum
cooling fins. It was working GREAT!!

This is a rather vexing symptom because I am thinking that this means
a possible ammonia leak. Major BUMMER!!

On the other hand, I am HOPING BEYOND HOPE that doing the well
documented "burping procedure" (see archives) might just fix the
problem. Will probably give that a try first.

Any suggestions on troubleshooting this coming weekend? What is the
easiest and quickest way to see if the ammonia is all gone? Is there
any other explanation for having a good flame (on LP), but no cooling
happening?

One other question... I notice that there is a cooling fan in
operation on my 2002 EVC when the refrigerator is cooling... but, my
1999 EVC, the refrigerator is totally silent all the time. Did
Norcold or Winnebago add a cooling fan for the more recent years?

Thank you!!

Garrett
1999 EVC, "DolphinJazz"
2002 EVC, "Serenity"

Garrett,



That sucks! Are you sure it was not left running on propane at an angle?
Over 5 degrees of slope can coke the boiler.



Anhydrous ammonia is extremely hazardous. When released into the air, it
immediately reacts with water vapor to form aqueous ammonia, like the
cleaning solution. It will form that in your lungs instantly, and kill you.



So, do you detect any ammonia smell inside the van? You wouldn't have been
in it when it blew, or you wouldn't be here to write this email!



It's entirely possible that it did escape, and you'll have to find some one
that can deal with that.



Here is one: www.rvmobile.com <>



Check out the "how it works" section. If you can understand that, you are a
better man than I.



Stuart







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From: ev_update@... [mailto:ev_update@...] On Behalf
Of Garrett
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 2:44 PM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] More Norcold woes...



Hello Group,

Lovely, my Norcold in my 2002 EVC just stopped working... will begin
troubleshooting this coming weekend.

The previous owners were meticulous with the EVC and especially with
the Norcold refrigerator. I was reminded that this is a $3,000
refrigerator! They actually spent THAT MUCH MONEY over the previous
five years!!! Every time they had a glitch, it went to the Winnebago
folks... and each time it was another $600.

Anyway... the weird and very troubling symptom is that the propane
will light just fine and the green light will remain STRONG and
happy. But, there is no cooling. Nothing. Ditto on shore power and
on battery... no cooling at all. It used to ice up on the aluminum
cooling fins. It was working GREAT!!

This is a rather vexing symptom because I am thinking that this means
a possible ammonia leak. Major BUMMER!!

On the other hand, I am HOPING BEYOND HOPE that doing the well
documented "burping procedure" (see archives) might just fix the
problem. Will probably give that a try first.

Any suggestions on troubleshooting this coming weekend? What is the
easiest and quickest way to see if the ammonia is all gone? Is there
any other explanation for having a good flame (on LP), but no cooling
happening?

One other question... I notice that there is a cooling fan in
operation on my 2002 EVC when the refrigerator is cooling... but, my
1999 EVC, the refrigerator is totally silent all the time. Did
Norcold or Winnebago add a cooling fan for the more recent years?

Thank you!!

Garrett
1999 EVC, "DolphinJazz"
2002 EVC, "Serenity"

my dads 97 evc did the exact same thing ! we couldnt figure out what
was going on. we lit the fridge a second time and somehow it just
started cooling again maybe the sloshing around while driving? who
knows

--- In ev_update@..., "Stuart MacMillan" <macgroup@...>
wrote:

Garrett,



That sucks! Are you sure it was not left running on propane at an

angle?

Over 5 degrees of slope can coke the boiler.



Anhydrous ammonia is extremely hazardous. When released into the

air, it

immediately reacts with water vapor to form aqueous ammonia, like

the

cleaning solution. It will form that in your lungs instantly, and

kill you.

So, do you detect any ammonia smell inside the van? You wouldn't

have been

in it when it blew, or you wouldn't be here to write this email!



It's entirely possible that it did escape, and you'll have to find

some one

that can deal with that.



Here is one: www.rvmobile.com <>



Check out the "how it works" section. If you can understand that,

you are a

better man than I.



Stuart







_____

From: ev_update@... [mailto:ev_update@...]

On Behalf

Of Garrett
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 2:44 PM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] More Norcold woes...



Hello Group,

Lovely, my Norcold in my 2002 EVC just stopped working... will

begin

troubleshooting this coming weekend.

The previous owners were meticulous with the EVC and especially

with

the Norcold refrigerator. I was reminded that this is a $3,000
refrigerator! They actually spent THAT MUCH MONEY over the previous
five years!!! Every time they had a glitch, it went to the

Winnebago

folks... and each time it was another $600.

Anyway... the weird and very troubling symptom is that the propane
will light just fine and the green light will remain STRONG and
happy. But, there is no cooling. Nothing. Ditto on shore power and
on battery... no cooling at all. It used to ice up on the aluminum
cooling fins. It was working GREAT!!

This is a rather vexing symptom because I am thinking that this

means

a possible ammonia leak. Major BUMMER!!

On the other hand, I am HOPING BEYOND HOPE that doing the well
documented "burping procedure" (see archives) might just fix the
problem. Will probably give that a try first.

Any suggestions on troubleshooting this coming weekend? What is the
easiest and quickest way to see if the ammonia is all gone? Is

there

any other explanation for having a good flame (on LP), but no

cooling

happening?

One other question... I notice that there is a cooling fan in
operation on my 2002 EVC when the refrigerator is cooling... but,

my

1999 EVC, the refrigerator is totally silent all the time. Did
Norcold or Winnebago add a cooling fan for the more recent years?

Thank you!!

Garrett
1999 EVC, "DolphinJazz"
2002 EVC, "Serenity"





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Garrett,

In the past I had a fridge that did exactly what you are talking about. A refrigeration mechanic advised to slide it out and turn it upside down rock it back and forth a few times and let it sit for 24 hours (is this what you mean by burping?). My news is it work fine after that. Worth a try.

John

Wow Garrett that is a bummer. Hope the burp works. I am not giving any more
refer advice until I can get mine to stop smelling up the van.

forest

YES!! John, this was the confirmation I was hoping for! I will be
doing that slosh/burp routine this weekend. Plus, this will be my
first time to remove a Norcold, so I am looking forward to seeing
first-hand what all the hoopla is about! ;) I'll take a bunch of
photos. I've also kept a text file of many of the previous Norcold
posts over the last five years, so I have a long history lesson to
wade through, read, and will get wise before I dig in Saturday.

Thanks,

Garrett


John wrote:

Garrett,

In the past I had a fridge that did exactly what you are talking

about. A refrigeration mechanic advised to slide it out and turn it
upside down rock it back and forth a few times and let it sit for 24
hours (is this what you mean by burping?). My news is it work fine
after that. Worth a try.

Hi Forest,

I didn't catch any previous post or mention that you were having odor
issues with your Norcold. I did a quick search on your name in the
archives, but didn't see any posts relating to this. What is the smell
issue about? Could it be something got spilled on the exhaust flue
when you were in there last? Does the same smell happen when operating
on shore power or 12V? Are you going to pull the unit yet AGAIN? ;)
Best of luck... please post an update.

Garrett

forest wrote:

Garrett,

Good, you got the routine which is to get the bubbles to settle out of the lines. You will find getting the Norcold out no big deal, however, the gas line can be a little tricky. Good luck!

John