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Window Template for AC Unit


 

In a message dated 5/13/08 8:56:15 AM, treyjung@... writes:


I've placed the AC unit on top of the bus but found it cold when sleeping
up top....
Yup....nothing like having to snuggle down under the covers when it's a 93
degree night with 90 percent humidity. Of course.....you can turn down the the
AC to be barely cooling.

I think you will find that mounting the AC in the front door window will not
cool the upper bunk enough to be comfortable. (at least in Texas)
Cold air is heavy and tends to fall, not rise. That's why putting the AC in
the luggage rack and having it blow through the window, air bouncing off the
angled roof and descending down into the vehicle works so well.
I use several small 12v fans to move the cool air around, including one I
clip to the poptop handle which helps move the air out of the upper bunk area and
down into the lower area. They are a little 'buzzy' but after an all nighter
doing astronomy I don't notice.

Kent Kirkley
'97EVC
Dallas


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Trey Jung
 

I'm looking to see if anyone has a template for a 2001 EVC to mount an AC unit in the front window. I've seen AC units mounted in Bay Window buses and Vanagon's this way. Would like to build a frame to hold the AC unit there.

I've placed the AC unit on top of the bus but found it cold when sleeping up top....

Thanks,
Trey
Houston


 

You can quiet those buzzy fans, Kent, by running them at reduced
voltage. I've run the 10 inch 12 volt WalMart fans at 4.5 volts and
you can hardly tell they are running. Of course when you run them like
that you have to mount them where they blow directly at you because
they are not moving nearly as much air.

Rob Dalton
97 EVC
Virginia

--- In ev_update@..., kgkirkley@... wrote:


In a message dated 5/13/08 8:56:15 AM, treyjung@... writes:


I've placed the AC unit on top of the bus but found it cold when
sleeping
up top....
Yup....nothing like having to snuggle down under the covers when
it's a 93
degree night with 90 percent humidity. Of course.....you can turn
down the the
AC to be barely cooling.

I think you will find that mounting the AC in the front door window
will not
cool the upper bunk enough to be comfortable. (at least in Texas)
Cold air is heavy and tends to fall, not rise. That's why putting
the AC in
the luggage rack and having it blow through the window, air bouncing
off the
angled roof and descending down into the vehicle works so well.
I use several small 12v fans to move the cool air around, including
one I
clip to the poptop handle which helps move the air out of the upper
bunk area and
down into the lower area. They are a little 'buzzy' but after an all
nighter
doing astronomy I don't notice.

Kent Kirkley
'97EVC
Dallas


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Boone
 

That's interesting... Rob, how do you do that... run them at reduced
voltage that is?

BD

--- In ev_update@..., "rvdalton" <rvdalton@...> wrote:

You can quiet those buzzy fans, Kent, by running them at reduced
voltage. I've run the 10 inch 12 volt WalMart fans at 4.5 volts and
you can hardly tell they are running. Of course when you run them
like
that you have to mount them where they blow directly at you because
they are not moving nearly as much air.

Rob Dalton
97 EVC
Virginia

--- In ev_update@..., kgkirkley@ wrote:


In a message dated 5/13/08 8:56:15 AM, treyjung@ writes:


I've placed the AC unit on top of the bus but found it cold
when
sleeping
up top....
Yup....nothing like having to snuggle down under the covers when
it's a 93
degree night with 90 percent humidity. Of course.....you can turn
down the the
AC to be barely cooling.

I think you will find that mounting the AC in the front door
window
will not
cool the upper bunk enough to be comfortable. (at least in
Texas)
Cold air is heavy and tends to fall, not rise. That's why putting
the AC in
the luggage rack and having it blow through the window, air
bouncing
off the
angled roof and descending down into the vehicle works so
well.
I use several small 12v fans to move the cool air around,
including
one I
clip to the poptop handle which helps move the air out of the
upper
bunk area and
down into the lower area. They are a little 'buzzy' but after an
all
nighter
doing astronomy I don't notice.

Kent Kirkley
'97EVC
Dallas


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Hi Kent. There are several ways you can run DC fans at reduced
voltage. Since I've acquired a box full of AC to DC adapters including
one universal AC to DC adapter, I use a 6 volt or less adapter on a
small (150 Watt) inverter (DC to AC). The goal is to get an inverter
that is small enough so it doesn't have its own cooling fan and
creates no noise. Another way is to run two 12 volt fans in series, if
they are both the same they should run at 6 volts (although mystery of
mysteries one will run backwards). Perhaps the simplest is to get a
universal DC to DC adapter for $15 at Home Depot where you can adjust
the voltage to what you need. By the way, I've run one 12 volt fan at
4.5 volts for many hours with no adverse affects, so I think they run
reliably at reduced voltage.

Rob

--- In ev_update@..., "Boone" <bdayley@...> wrote:

That's interesting... Rob, how do you do that... run them at reduced
voltage that is?

BD

--- In ev_update@..., "rvdalton" <rvdalton@> wrote:

You can quiet those buzzy fans, Kent, by running them at reduced
voltage. I've run the 10 inch 12 volt WalMart fans at 4.5 volts and
you can hardly tell they are running. Of course when you run them
like
that you have to mount them where they blow directly at you because
they are not moving nearly as much air.

Rob Dalton
97 EVC
Virginia

--- In ev_update@..., kgkirkley@ wrote:


In a message dated 5/13/08 8:56:15 AM, treyjung@ writes:


I've placed the AC unit on top of the bus but found it cold
when
sleeping
up top....
Yup....nothing like having to snuggle down under the covers when
it's a 93
degree night with 90 percent humidity. Of course.....you can turn
down the the
AC to be barely cooling.

I think you will find that mounting the AC in the front door
window
will not
cool the upper bunk enough to be comfortable. (at least in
Texas)
Cold air is heavy and tends to fall, not rise. That's why putting
the AC in
the luggage rack and having it blow through the window, air
bouncing
off the
angled roof and descending down into the vehicle works so
well.
I use several small 12v fans to move the cool air around,
including
one I
clip to the poptop handle which helps move the air out of the
upper
bunk area and
down into the lower area. They are a little 'buzzy' but after an
all
nighter
doing astronomy I don't notice.

Kent Kirkley
'97EVC
Dallas


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jack_son_73
 

Rob, BD & Kent -

The direction is determined by the polarity. You
can reverse the 2 leads on the 'backwars' fan to
make them run the same way.

A $1 5V or 6V 3-terminal regulator will take the
12-15V DC in and run a small fan, etc., at 5 or
6V at up to 1 or 1.5A [depending on specs of the
7805 or 7806 regulator.

Regards,

Jack_son
================================================
--In ev_update@..., "rvdalton" <rvdalton@...> wrote:

Hi Kent. There are several ways you can run DC fans at reduced
voltage. Since I've acquired a box full of AC to DC adapters
including
one universal AC to DC adapter, I use a 6 volt or less adapter on a
small (150 Watt) inverter (DC to AC). The goal is to get an inverter
that is small enough so it doesn't have its own cooling fan and
creates no noise. Another way is to run two 12 volt fans in series,
if
they are both the same they should run at 6 volts (although mystery
of
mysteries one will run backwards). Perhaps the simplest is to get a
universal DC to DC adapter for $15 at Home Depot where you can
adjust
the voltage to what you need. By the way, I've run one 12 volt fan
at
4.5 volts for many hours with no adverse affects, so I think they
run
reliably at reduced voltage.

Rob

--- In ev_update@..., "Boone" <bdayley@> wrote:

That's interesting... Rob, how do you do that... run them at
reduced
voltage that is?

BD

--- In ev_update@..., "rvdalton" <rvdalton@> wrote:

You can quiet those buzzy fans, Kent, by running them at reduced
voltage. I've run the 10 inch 12 volt WalMart fans at 4.5 volts
and
you can hardly tell they are running. Of course when you run
them
like
that you have to mount them where they blow directly at you
because
they are not moving nearly as much air.

Rob Dalton
97 EVC
Virginia

--- In ev_update@..., kgkirkley@ wrote:


In a message dated 5/13/08 8:56:15 AM, treyjung@ writes:


I've placed the AC unit on top of the bus but found it cold
when
sleeping
up top....
Yup....nothing like having to snuggle down under the covers
when
it's a 93
degree night with 90 percent humidity. Of course.....you can
turn
down the the
AC to be barely cooling.

I think you will find that mounting the AC in the front door
window
will not
cool the upper bunk enough to be comfortable. (at least in
Texas)
Cold air is heavy and tends to fall, not rise. That's why
putting
the AC in
the luggage rack and having it blow through the window, air
bouncing
off the
angled roof and descending down into the vehicle works so
well.
I use several small 12v fans to move the cool air around,
including
one I
clip to the poptop handle which helps move the air out of the
upper
bunk area and
down into the lower area. They are a little 'buzzy' but after
an
all
nighter
doing astronomy I don't notice.

Kent Kirkley
'97EVC
Dallas


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Dave
 

Trey,
Not sure what you mean be a template--but we did just what you're
asking about. I'll take some dimensions when I'm home tonight, if
you like. It's basically like a saddle--a platform to hold the AC
unit and two wide slats that drop down on either side of the window
opening. Then we stuff it with foam around the sides (foam we took
from an old sofa cushion.)
It keeps us plenty cool during the day or night--even here in S.
Florida. BTW, we originally started with a 5000 BTU unit (I THINK it
was 5K) but eventually took it back for a 6K so keep that in mind.

We made sure the platform leans a bit to the outside of the vehicle
so that the condensation ends up outside. And we lay a clean throw
run over the window frame before we put the platform on it--to
protect against serious scratches.

I'll send you more when I can.

Dave
2001 Weekender in Hollywood FL
and dealing with what seems to be immobilizer issues AGAIN this
morning...UGH!

--- In ev_update@..., "Trey Jung" <treyjung@...> wrote:

I'm looking to see if anyone has a template for a 2001 EVC to mount
an AC unit in the front window. I've seen AC units mounted in Bay
Window buses and Vanagon's this way. Would like to build a frame to
hold the AC unit there.

I've placed the AC unit on top of the bus but found it cold when
sleeping up top....

Thanks,
Trey
Houston


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Conrad Klahn
 

Hi,

I ran an AC unit in the front window and was comfortable upstairs using fans to blow the cold air up. That was in Hot Springs heat (+90 at night).

I'll have to experiment with putting the unit upstairs. We have a weekender, so it might be a bit precarious. Insulating the canvas helps with temps and noise.

Conrad


 

Conrad,

The EVC guys have a front window that unzips. Our Weekenders don't have that so there really is now way to put an AC unit up top.

--Stephen

At 02:47 PM 5/19/2008, you wrote:

Hi,

I ran an AC unit in the front window and was comfortable upstairs
using fans to blow the cold air up. That was in Hot Springs heat (+90
at night).

I'll have to experiment with putting the unit upstairs. We have a
weekender, so it might be a bit precarious. Insulating the canvas
helps with temps and noise.

Conrad