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#7995

The VW tools are ordered directly from Zelenda. Dealers normally don't supply 
them. Ask if they have any used available, as they serve as a clearinghouse 
for the tools when mechanics don't need them. The tools aren't cheap, but all 
three listed below will cost you less than paying the labor for the timing 
belt job.

Zelenda Phone# 800 221 0126
Counter holder 3248a (secures vibration damper to remove crank bolt)
Ribbed belt install tool 3299 (works REALLY well)

Another essential tool for removing the front axles (for changing CV boots, 
etc, NOT used for timing belt) is
Support frames 3250

Comments on the job: replace the water pump at the same time. However, in 
order to replace the pump, you must remove the rear timing belt plate. To get 
the plate off, you need to remove the cam shaft sprocket. I was unable to get 
the bolt off this sprocket (even while using the special Snap-on tool made 
for the purpose), so I ended up bending the plate-didn't go back right and I 
had to wire the top of it back to prevent rubbing noises. That was the only 
bad part of the job. I imagine without the other tools parts of the job could 
be bad-especially getting the bolt off the crank.

-gb

Michael G. McCarthy

#7996

<<Ribbed belt install tool 3299 (works REALLY well)>> Use of this tool requires disassembly of motor mount and then shifting of engine. ?That's the by-the-book way to do the job, but you can twist the tensioned roller's spring arm WITHOUT that tool (a 10" pipewrench w/cheater worked fine for me.)
<< Another essential tool for removing the front axles (for changing CV boots>> << etc, NOT used for timing belt) is Support frames 3250>> I disagree that this tool is essential (and it sure is expensive). ?You can safely and properly disassembly the front end (for CV, bearing, brake caliper repair, etc) by supporting the control arms with jacks and blocks. ?Tool 3250 is effective in shops where time costs $55/hour and up, the customer is charged the book rate for the repair regardless, each 1/10th of an hour actually consumed over book matters. ?For the weekend mechanic, with all day to replace their CV boots, you don't need this tool. Mike

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From: Gbnvic@...
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] Timing Belt Tools Ordering info
Date: Mon, May 29, 2000, 4:06 PM

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The VW tools are ordered directly from Zelenda. Dealers normally don't supply them. Ask if they have any used available, as they serve as a clearinghouse for the tools when mechanics don't need them. The tools aren't cheap, but all three listed below will cost you less than paying the labor for the timing belt job. Zelenda Phone# 800 221 0126 Counter holder 3248a (secures vibration damper to remove crank bolt) Ribbed belt install tool 3299 (works REALLY well) Another essential tool for removing the front axles (for changing CV boots, etc, NOT used for timing belt) is Support frames 3250 Comments on the job: replace the water pump at the same time. However, in order to replace the pump, you must remove the rear timing belt plate. To get the plate off, you need to remove the cam shaft sprocket. I was unable to get the bolt off this sprocket (even while using the special Snap-on tool made for the purpose), so I ended up bending the plate-didn't go back right and I had to wire the top of it back to prevent rubbing noises. That was the only bad part of the job. I imagine without the other tools parts of the job could be bad-especially getting the bolt off the crank. -gb

Jerry Carter

#8020

--- In ev_update@..., Gbnvic@a... wrote:
The VW tools are ordered directly from Zelenda. Dealers normally don't supply 
them. Ask if they have any used available, as they serve as a clearinghouse 
for the tools when mechanics don't need them. The tools aren't cheap, but all 
three listed below will cost you less than paying the labor for the timing 
belt job.

Zelenda Phone# 800 221 0126
Counter holder 3248a (secures vibration damper to remove crank bolt)
Ribbed belt install tool 3299 (works REALLY well)

Another essential tool for removing the front axles (for changing CV boots, 
etc, NOT used for timing belt) is
Support frames 3250

Comments on the job: replace the water pump at the same time. However, in 
order to replace the pump, you must remove the rear timing belt plate. To get 
the plate off, you need to remove the cam shaft sprocket. I was unable to get 
the bolt off this sprocket (even while using the special Snap-on tool made 
for the purpose), so I ended up bending the plate-didn't go back right and I 
had to wire the top of it back to prevent rubbing noises. That was the only 
bad part of the job. I imagine without the other tools parts of the job could 
be bad-especially getting the bolt off the crank.

-gbWhile Mike has a valid point about having more time, I like to do 
other things with my time!  

If the tool isn't too expensive, I'll usually spring for them; they 
make the job easier, take less time, and are a selling point when its 
time to part with the van (if you do all of you own work, the next 
buyer is going to believe it when he/she sees the receipts and tools 
they get with the buy).

Thanks for letting us know about the tool.

Jerry

Michael G. McCarthy

#8021

>> ?Counter holder 3248a (secures vibration damper to remove crank bolt) My guess is that this tool IS essential; that is, the damper can't be removed without it. >> Ribbed belt install tool 3299 (works REALLY well) Ok, it works well, but the use of this tool REQUIRES that the engine be supported, the engine mount removed, and then the engine shifted slightly? ?My guess is that you can do the job FASTER without the special tool. ?My guess is that the special tool only saves time in a shop where hydraulic lifts make it possible to remove a motor mount and shift an engine quickly. ?In the backyard garage you are going to spend a LOT of time preparing the engine so you can save a FEW minutes using the tool. ?In the end, in this case, the special tool actually costs you more time. ? >> Another essential tool for removing the front axles (for changing CV boots, >> etc, NOT used for timing belt) is Support frames 3250 Essential? ?As in "can't do the job without it"? ?Not true. ?That tool is strictly a timesaver. ?How much time can you save? ?I don't know. ?I can support my front end, one side at a time, to service CV-joints, in a matter of a few minutes. ?How expensive is the tool? ?If it's more than $50 it wouldn't be worth it to me. As far as the selling point aspect of having a nice shop with lots of cool tools, I agree with you there. ?In fact, I'd rather buy a car from someone who's done all their own work than one who advertises "only dealer repair!" and then has a thick file of dealer receipts to show me when I'm inspecting the car. Mike

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From: "Jerry Carter"
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] Re: Timing Belt Tools Ordering info
Date: Tue, May 30, 2000, 8:27 PM

--- In ev_update@..., Gbnvic@a... wrote: > The VW tools are ordered directly from Zelenda. Dealers normally don't supply > them. Ask if they have any used available, as they serve as a clearinghouse > for the tools when mechanics don't need them. The tools aren't cheap, but all > three listed below will cost you less than paying the labor for the timing > belt job. > > Zelenda Phone# 800 221 0126 > Counter holder 3248a (secures vibration damper to remove crank bolt) > Ribbed belt install tool 3299 (works REALLY well) > > Another essential tool for removing the front axles (for changing CV boots, > etc, NOT used for timing belt) is > Support frames 3250 > > Comments on the job: replace the water pump at the same time. However, in > order to replace the pump, you must remove the rear timing belt plate. To get > the plate off, you need to remove the cam shaft sprocket. I was unable to get > the bolt off this sprocket (even while using the special Snap-on tool made > for the purpose), so I ended up bending the plate-didn't go back right and I > had to wire the top of it back to prevent rubbing noises. That was the only > bad part of the job. I imagine without the other tools parts of the job could > be bad-especially getting the bolt off the crank. > > -gb While Mike has a valid point about having more time, I like to do other things with my time! ? If the tool isn't too expensive, I'll usually spring for them; they make the job easier, take less time, and are a selling point when its time to part with the van (if you do all of you own work, the next buyer is going to believe it when he/she sees the receipts and tools they get with the buy). Thanks for letting us know about the tool. Jerry ?

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Donald Hector

#8025

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i agree, doing a cv boot is not bad at all one side at a time . releave the tension on the torsion bar and

jam something in to hold up the control arm. the lower ball joint comes apart real easy.

also any one doing a timing belt might want to renew the crank seal , cam seal waterpump or seal

when doing the timing belt .

don 92 evcl,94cargo

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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael G. McCarthy <mgmccarthy@...>
To: ev_update@... <ev_update@...>
Date: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [ev_update] Re: Timing Belt Tools Ordering info

>> ?Counter holder 3248a (secures vibration damper to remove crank bolt) My guess is that this tool IS essential; that is, the damper can't be removed without it. >> Ribbed belt install tool 3299 (works REALLY well) Ok, it works well, but the use of this tool REQUIRES that the engine be supported, the engine mount removed, and then the engine shifted slightly? ?My guess is that you can do the job FASTER without the special tool. ?My guess is that the special tool only saves time in a shop where hydraulic lifts make it possible to remove a motor mount and shift an engine quickly. ?In the backyard garage you are going to spend a LOT of time preparing the engine so you can save a FEW minutes using the tool. ?In the end, in this case, the special tool actually costs you more time. ? >> Another essential tool for removing the front axles (for changing CV boots, >> etc, NOT used for timing belt) is Support frames 3250 Essential? ?As in "can't do the job without it"? ?Not true. ?That tool is strictly a timesaver. ?How much time can you save? ?I don't know. ?I can support my front end, one side at a time, to service CV-joints, in a matter of a few minutes. ?How expensive is the tool? ?If it's more than $50 it wouldn't be worth it to me. As far as the selling point aspect of having a nice shop with lots of cool tools, I agree with you there. ?In fact, I'd rather buy a car from someone who's done all their own work than one who advertises "only dealer repair!" and then has a thick file of dealer receipts to show me when I'm inspecting the car. Mike

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From: "Jerry Carter"
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] Re: Timing Belt Tools Ordering info
Date: Tue, May 30, 2000, 8:27 PM

--- In ev_update@..., Gbnvic@a... wrote: > The VW tools are ordered directly from Zelenda. Dealers normally don't supply > them. Ask if they have any used available, as they serve as a clearinghouse > for the tools when mechanics don't need them. The tools aren't cheap, but all > three listed below will cost you less than paying the labor for the timing > belt job. > > Zelenda Phone# 800 221 0126 > Counter holder 3248a (secures vibration damper to remove crank bolt) > Ribbed belt install tool 3299 (works REALLY well) > > Another essential tool for removing the front axles (for changing CV boots, > etc, NOT used for timing belt) is > Support frames 3250 > > Comments on the job: replace the water pump at the same time. However, in > order to replace the pump, you must remove the rear timing belt plate. To get > the plate off, you need to remove the cam shaft sprocket. I was unable to get > the bolt off this sprocket (even while using the special Snap-on tool made > for the purpose), so I ended up bending the plate-didn't go back right and I > had to wire the top of it back to prevent rubbing noises. That was the only > bad part of the job. I imagine without the other tools parts of the job could > be bad-especially getting the bolt off the crank. > > -gb While Mike has a valid point about having more time, I like to do other things with my time! ? If the tool isn't too expensive, I'll usually spring for them; they make the job easier, take less time, and are a selling point when its time to part with the van (if you do all of you own work, the next buyer is going to believe it when he/she sees the receipts and tools they get with the buy). Thanks for letting us know about the tool. Jerry ?

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