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EV Cat


Bruce Curry
 

Not to Question Authority here but I understand from following the list fo9r
awhile that a generic $150 cat from Midas/Meinecke/Walker/whoever is built
to the same spec that the $900 VW cat is. The cat is high on my list of oem
parts that are not worth the extra dinero.

Bruce
93 weekender

-----Original Message-----
From: Norman Leong <t4mv@...>
To: ev_update@... <ev_update@...>
Date: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 9:18 PM
Subject: [ev_update] Re: EV Parts




question. Is there anyone else besides VWOA that carries EV parts? I
need a new catalytic converter for my '93 EV MV. This is a great
group. If anyone is keeping track, you can add one more EV which has
the infamous gas line leak. I reported it to the NHTSA, which is
easily done on their web site.

Thanks, Rod in west Texas

Rod, weren't you on the old Vanagon list? Your sig looks familiar.
Anyway, there're a couple folks on the list (Steve L. comes to mind) that
carry EV parts. From the Vanagon days, there's Ron at the Bus Depot(?),
but
he's probably got a wider range of parts.
Anyway, welcome aboard!

Norman

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"bruce curry" <taiz-@...> wrote:
original article:
Not to Question Authority here but I understand from following the
list fo9r
awhile that a generic $150 cat from Midas/Meinecke/Walker/whoever is
built
to the same spec that the $900 VW cat is. The cat is high on my list
of oem
parts that are not worth the extra dinero.

Bruce
93 weekender
Bruce,
I agree. At some point there is a breakover in the price/quality ratio
where it's just not woth the extra $$. From a post back in September,
one EV owner had a Meinecke cat installed for $235. He did mention a
slight loss in power especially when climbing in 4-5th gear. That does
concern me, or at least makes me wonder about the flow characteristics
of that cat. I have a $298 quote for an OEM cat from germanautos.com.
The installation looks pretty straight forward (Ha!). I'll seee if the
Bus Depot has a similar or better price.

Thanks, Rod in west Texas
'93 EV MV w/ 106,000 miles


 

Rod,

How do you know your Cat is bad, did it fail an emissions test? I was
curious. I not you have ~106K miles - I had cats last much longer. If
its bad, do you have any ideas on how/why it failed - was the oil
overfilled? Is the the oxygen sensor okay? questions, questions...

Jerry

strgcar-@... wrote:
original article:
"bruce curry" <taiz-@...> wrote:
original article:
Not to Question Authority here but I understand from following the
list fo9r
awhile that a generic $150 cat from Midas/Meinecke/Walker/whoever is
built
to the same spec that the $900 VW cat is. The cat is high on my
list
of oem
parts that are not worth the extra dinero.

Bruce
93 weekender
Bruce,
I agree. At some point there is a breakover in the price/quality
ratio
where it's just not woth the extra $$. From a post back in September,
one EV owner had a Meinecke cat installed for $235. He did mention a
slight loss in power especially when climbing in 4-5th gear. That does
concern me, or at least makes me wonder about the flow characteristics
of that cat. I have a $298 quote for an OEM cat from germanautos.com.
The installation looks pretty straight forward (Ha!). I'll seee if the
Bus Depot has a similar or better price.

Thanks, Rod in west Texas
'93 EV MV w/ 106,000 miles


 

sana-@... wrote:
original article:
Rod,

How do you know your Cat is bad, did it fail an emissions test? I was
curious. I not you have ~106K miles - I had cats last much longer.
If
its bad, do you have any ideas on how/why it failed - was the oil
overfilled? Is the the oxygen sensor okay? questions, questions...

Jerry

strgcar-@... wrote:
original article:
"bruce curry" <taiz-@...> wrote:
original article:
Not to Question Authority here but I understand from following the
list fo9r
awhile that a generic $150 cat from Midas/Meinecke/Walker/whoever
is
built
to the same spec that the $900 VW cat is. The cat is high on my
list
of oem
parts that are not worth the extra dinero.

Bruce
93 weekender
Bruce,
I agree. At some point there is a breakover in the price/quality
ratio
where it's just not woth the extra $$. From a post back in
September,
one EV owner had a Meinecke cat installed for $235. He did mention
a
slight loss in power especially when climbing in 4-5th gear. That
does
concern me, or at least makes me wonder about the flow
characteristics
of that cat. I have a $298 quote for an OEM cat from
germanautos.com.
The installation looks pretty straight forward (Ha!). I'll seee if
the
Bus Depot has a similar or better price.

Thanks, Rod in west Texas
'93 EV MV w/ 106,000 miles
Jerry,
I've noticed over the past half year or so a decrease in fuel milage,
from 18-19 around town to a constant 16, from 21-22 on the road to
18-19 mpg. I gave it a complete tuneup which didn't improve the mpg
and was stumped. Recently though I've had a bad rattling under the van
which turned out to be inside the cat. So I think it's a mechanical
failure of the cat internals.

Rod in west Texas


John F. Gladu
 

On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 sanae@... wrote:
How do you know your Cat is bad, did it fail an emissions test? I was
curious. I not you have ~106K miles - I had cats last much longer. If
its bad, do you have any ideas on how/why it failed - was the oil
overfilled? Is the the oxygen sensor okay? questions, questions...
Had mine replaced today with a generic (smaller) unit with a two year
warranty. How did I know that the original was bad? Because of the loud
clanking noises that it made and by the way that the core plugged up the
pipe and prevented the exhaust gasses from escaping. Lost all power but
would still idle. Hitting the cat with a hammer got me going again (to
the muffler shop). It's running fine now.

I got a look at the old one after it had been removed - the entire
honeycombed core was floating around loose inside and pieces of it had
broken off.

To add to my day we found cracks in the resonator and the muffler, a
broken exhaust pipe hangar (rubber thing upstream of the cat), the heat
shield between the exhaust and the gas tank has lost its front mount and
is dangling and the CV boots are shredded. But those things can wait...

bcnu - Grungy
93 Eurovan
90 Vanagon
69 Beetle
60 ddd Panel walk-thru


 

Had mine replaced today with a generic (smaller) unit with a two year
warranty. How did I know that the original was bad? Because of the
loud
clanking noises that it made and by the way that the core plugged up
the
pipe and prevented the exhaust gasses from escaping. Lost all power
but
would still idle. Hitting the cat with a hammer got me going again
(to
the muffler shop). It's running fine now.

I got a look at the old one after it had been removed - the entire
honeycombed core was floating around loose inside and pieces of it had
broken off.

To add to my day we found cracks in the resonator and the muffler, a
broken exhaust pipe hangar (rubber thing upstream of the cat), the
heat
shield between the exhaust and the gas tank has lost its front mount
and
is dangling and the CV boots are shredded. But those things can
wait...

bcnu - Grungy
93 Eurovan
90 Vanagon
69 Beetle
60 ddd Panel walk-thru
Can I ask how much you paid? Also, did they cut out the old one using
the original mounting flange to the downpipe and also still use the
hanger above the old cat?

Thanks, Rod in west Texas

93 EV MV
91 Jetta
56 Beetle