Re: Shear Pin for Lead Screw and Lead Screw Removal
Thank you. Great advice.?
I¡¯m located in Studio City, California - a suburb of Los Angeles not far from Universal Studios. ?Hopefully the items you mentioned are available locally.?
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Re: Shear Pin for Lead Screw and Lead Screw Removal
The original shear pin was aluminum, what alloy it may have been is lost to time.
I used an aluminum pop rivet pin to replace mine, but depending on where you are in the world
you may not be able to get all aluminum pop rivets.
Second choice would be 4043 tig welding rod.
Last choice would be 1100 aluminum rod, 1100 might be a little too soft since it's
almost pure aluminum. Art supply stores would carry it as sculpting armature wire.
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You should save that piece of plexi or fabricate a similar piece out of roof flashing aluminum with a
tab bent at 90? that's under the headstock, it'll keep most of the chips out of that area.
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James
USA
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Re: Shear Pin for Lead Screw and Lead Screw Removal
2nd update: ?it seems that the leadscrew can be removed by removing the bracket on the far right of the machine just inward of the leadscrew hand wheel.?
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Re: Shear Pin for Lead Screw and Lead Screw Removal
As an update, I was able to remove the plexiglass - it took a few taps with the side of my pliers but it seems to have been held in place with dried grease.
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Shear Pin for Lead Screw and Lead Screw Removal
I¡¯ve attached a picture of what appears to be a mushroomed shear pin. Does it look original? ?It feels like it¡¯s made of aluminum. If not I believe I have some rods of aluminum that should fit.?  ?
Is there a trick to removing the lead screw from the gear box. I¡¯d like to remove the gear box to remove contaminants from the bottom of the box. Strangely the gears in the gear box look ok.?
Lastly there is a piece of plexiglass running along the center of the bed. Any idea how to remove it?
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Re: Shift Levers/Forks Not Moving - Time for a Rebuild?
I'd leave the apron in place, just put some blocking underneath it. Realigning the leadscrew and halfnuts can be a pain.
Got it. Crisis averted. :-)
Next project is to remove, clean and inspect the carriage.
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There is also a piece of plastic that runs the length of the bed that I¡¯ll remove if possible to allow for cleaning of the bed rails.
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Re: Shift Levers/Forks Not Moving - Time for a Rebuild?
Got it. Crisis averted. :-)
Next project is to remove, clean and inspect the carriage.
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There is also a piece of plastic that runs the length of the bed that I¡¯ll remove if possible to allow for cleaning of the bed rails.
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Re: Shift Levers/Forks Not Moving - Time for a Rebuild?
You need to pull the handle a bit when changing gears. There's an indexing pin on the bottom of the handle that keeps the gear from drifting on its own. It's actually visible in your video
Don't change the gears when the motor is running, you'll strip the Tufnol (not Delrin) gears. You do need to wiggle the chuck a bit by hand while shifting for the dogs to engage
The shift levers / forks on my newly acquired V10-P don¡¯t seem to work.? In truth, the left selector/fork will engage to the right if I rotate the large delrin gear so the teeth mate with the large delrin gear. It¡¯s not moving much when I try to disengage to the left.?
I wasn¡¯t able to post a video directly but was able to post to Imgur (which can be linked as follows: ? )
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Is this a common problem with hopefully an easy fix or am I looking at a rebuild?
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I also tried inserting a link using the system.?
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Thanks in advance for any help.?
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Shift Levers/Forks Not Moving - Time for a Rebuild?
The shift levers / forks on my newly acquired V10-P don¡¯t seem to work. ?In truth, the left selector/fork will engage to the right if I rotate the large delrin gear so the teeth mate with the large delrin gear. It¡¯s not moving much when I try to disengage to the left.?
I wasn¡¯t able to post a video directly but was able to post to Imgur (which can be linked as follows: ? )
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Is this a common problem with hopefully an easy fix or am I looking at a rebuild?
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I also tried inserting a link using the groups.io system.?
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Thanks in advance for any help.?
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Re: V10-P Emco Chuck Removal
One piece of advice I would give if you're manhandling it (if you haven't already removed the Power feed gearbox) is definitely remove the selector knob(s) from the front (it unscrews with a flat wrench/spanner - just pull the outer to reveal the flats). If it rolls and lands on the front this will break the selector arm for the gearbox and they can be ... troublesome ... to find replacements for. I speak from experience here. (OK I repaired mine but it ain't pretty)
Tim
(Hereford, UK)
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On 26/05/2025 19:15, Vedran via groups.io wrote: It unscrews, regular right hand thread, ie, turn it counter clockwise when looking from tailstock to headstock.
They can be pretty stuck and care has to be taken when undoing them. In regular situations, you put the gearbox in the lowest gear and unscrew the thing by hand(s). Jerking it makes sense as well... but if that is not enough to loosen the thing you'll want to search for "stuck chuck" topics. No hammers, levers, etc.
In any case, the whole machine is on the order of 150kg, chuck is maybe 10kg of that and tailstock is another 10kg, so not much better. Taking off other pieces is not worth the trouble unless you intend to strip it all down anyway.
You'll need an engine hoist or some sort of crane to lift it by yourself. Two young (and athletic) people can just about move the thing, three are better if you can find them.
Regards
Vedran
On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 7:46?PM Djed.geo via groups.io < groups.io> <Djed.geo@... <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Good morning.
I just acquired a V10-P which externally looks to have been well
maintained. I have yet to get it into my shop and will likely have
many more questions as I begin to clean it up.
My initial challenge is getting the lathe out of my truck and I¡¯m
working to remove any extra weight including the chuck.
Before I damage anything I thought I would reach out on the proper
method of removing the Emco branded three jaw chuck. I¡¯ve loosened
what appears to be a locking screw behind the chuck but I am curious
as to the next steps (pull off, screw off, ??).? If screw off, what
do you clamp onto?? I¡¯ve seen an instructional video where there are
slots in the back of the spindle but those don¡¯t exist on mine.
I¡¯ve attached a picture in case it helps.
Thanks in advance for what may seem like a silly question.
I¡¯ve been using a Compact 5 for the last few years and I suspect
there are quite a few differences between the two machines that I¡¯ll
be learning about.
David
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Re: V10-P Emco Chuck Removal
Best way, put straps through the webbing in between the ways. I don't have a picture of that exact setup, I have one when I've had the leadscrew and feedshaft off, so I just strapped it around the bed. You can't do that when it's assembled as it will bend the leadscrew and feedshaft.
This is about where you want the straps to land - yes, it says "lift point" on those pieces of tape :) I remember I marked them when I found a good balance point. That was with empty headstock, no norton box, no change gears and no tailstock, but possibly with the stand so maybe move the left one a bit further left. Don't lift by chuck, headstock or carriage. As long as you're strapped to the bed, you're probably fine. Thing is not exactly top heavy but it's not far off either. I don't remember it trying to capsize on me (like a ship), but wiggle it a bit when it's barely off the floor to check for that. oh yeah, good luck and be safe :)
Thanks. Any issue lifting from the bed?? I¡¯ve got the headstock at one end and the carriage at the other. I¡¯d hate to torque the rails.?
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Re: V10-P Emco Chuck Removal
Thanks. Any issue lifting from the bed? ?I¡¯ve got the headstock at one end and the carriage at the other. I¡¯d hate to torque the rails.?
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Re: V10-P Emco Chuck Removal
It unscrews, regular right hand thread, ie, turn it counter clockwise when looking from tailstock to headstock. They can be pretty stuck and care has to be taken when undoing them. In regular situations, you put the gearbox in the lowest gear and unscrew the thing by hand(s). Jerking it makes sense as well... but if that is not enough to loosen the thing you'll want to search for "stuck chuck" topics. No hammers, levers, etc. In any case, the whole machine is on the order of 150kg, chuck is maybe 10kg of that and tailstock is another 10kg, so not much better. Taking off other pieces is not worth the trouble unless you intend to strip it all down anyway.
You'll need an engine hoist or some sort of crane to lift it by yourself. Two young (and athletic) people can just about move the thing, three are better if you can find them.
Good morning.?
I just acquired a V10-P which externally looks to have been well maintained. I have yet to get it into my shop and will likely have many more questions as I begin to clean it up.?
My initial challenge is getting the lathe out of my truck and I¡¯m working to remove any extra weight including the chuck.?
Before I damage anything I thought I would reach out on the proper method of removing the Emco branded three jaw chuck. I¡¯ve loosened what appears to be a locking screw behind the chuck but I am curious as to the next steps (pull off, screw off, ??).? If screw off, what do you clamp onto?? I¡¯ve seen an instructional video where there are slots in the back of the spindle but those don¡¯t exist on mine.?
I¡¯ve attached a picture in case it helps.?
Thanks in advance for what may seem like a silly question. ?
I¡¯ve been using a Compact 5 for the last few years and I suspect there are quite a few differences between the two machines that I¡¯ll be learning about.?
David
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Good morning.?
I just acquired a V10-P which externally looks to have been well maintained. I have yet to get it into my shop and will likely have many more questions as I begin to clean it up.?
My initial challenge is getting the lathe out of my truck and I¡¯m working to remove any extra weight including the chuck.?
Before I damage anything I thought I would reach out on the proper method of removing the Emco branded three jaw chuck. I¡¯ve loosened what appears to be a locking screw behind the chuck but I am curious as to the next steps (pull off, screw off, ??). ?If screw off, what do you clamp onto? ?I¡¯ve seen an instructional video where there are slots in the back of the spindle but those don¡¯t exist on mine.?
I¡¯ve attached a picture in case it helps.?
Thanks in advance for what may seem like a silly question. ?
I¡¯ve been using a Compact 5 for the last few years and I suspect there are quite a few differences between the two machines that I¡¯ll be learning about.?
David
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Re: 1984 V10P - should I sell it?
Hi Len,?
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Thanks for your pricing input and for your editing compliment!?
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Editing was self taught, or rather YouTube taught. I've had a camera since I shot for the High School newspaper in 1970, so I've always been seeing the world thru a lens. The EOS R came with video capability so I shot some.. Found Davinci Resolve was (and is) free and off I went. That's part of why the lathe is going.? I have too many hobbies to keep up with them all!? That and 3D printing could probably accomplish the oddball projects I end up with.?
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I'll see what the movers say about putting the lathe in the basement. I, with two other older friends got it out of the basement in Dayton OH by taking it apart and having a refridgerator dolly at hand. So, yeah, it is possible. But will I use it??
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Thanks for your reply,
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Carey
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Emco V10P with mill and many tools. New 1984 from my wife's uncle. I brought it to Florida from Dayton in 2006 and have used it to turn plastic, brass, aluminum and the odd steel part. It all works. I am moving and have decided to sell the lathe. Anyone interested, or interested in more information please let me know.?
Video of the lathe in action -?
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Re: 1984 V10P - should I sell it?
I paid $2k for a well tooled, but older (blue), V10P about 10 years ago. It seems like you should be able to find a local buyer in that range, though I think the used market for manual machines has softened a bit. OTOH, you can definitely get a V10P down a stairs by taking it apart and having two strong bodies. Lastly, that video was excellent. Did you pick up those video skills yourself, or have someone shoot it for you?
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Re: Norton box Strip/Rebuild
Sorry, I don't have the imperial one... this is how my metric set looks. Service parts list has them in M and Ww variant, so they are different.
On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 1:17?AM Tim D Schomer via <rototype= [email protected]> wrote: Yes, if I can get the tooth counts I can then source them, I think I can
get a blank made up for the leadscrew gear (currently 32T) and the
gearbox output gear is pretty plain (the one I have is 20T - counted it
today) I should be able to get it running.
Given time I can probably calculate what the ratio should be for it but
that means a lot of head scratching.
Tun
On 26/05/2025 00:09, Vedran via wrote:
> But you need imperial tooth counts?
>
> Regards
>
> Vedran
>
>
> On Sat, May 24, 2025 at 2:28?PM Tim D Schomer via <http://
> > <rototype=[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>? ? ?Thanks for the offer Vedran but I don't think it'll help, What I really
>? ? ?need is someone with a V10 with that section in bits who can count the
>? ? ?teeth for me. Or as a long shot the parts advertised with the number of
>? ? ?teeth listed.
>
>? ? ?Tim
>? ? ?(Hereford, UK)
>
>? ? ?On 24/05/2025 01:50, Vedran via <> wrote:
>? ? ? > I can scrounge up videos of my metric machine but from what I gather
>? ? ? > that won't really help you. Let me know if you need them.
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > Regards
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > Vedran
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 10:54?PM Tim D Schomer via
>? ? ?<> <http://
>? ? ? > <>>
>? ? ?<rototype=[email protected]
>? ? ?<mailto:[email protected]>
>? ? ? > <mailto:[email protected]
>? ? ?<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ?Many thanks for the help on this so far...
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ?Well, I managed to get both gearboxes stripped down, as
>? ? ?anticipated
>? ? ? >? ? ?I'll
>? ? ? >? ? ?need a couple of new bearings when I reassemble the V10p box
>? ? ?but I've
>? ? ? >? ? ?either got these (6201) or they're on order (6301).
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ?I now have another issue that can't be solved by impact. The
>? ? ?outpur
>? ? ? >? ? ?gear
>? ? ? >? ? ?that connects to the leadscrew - apparently there's a Metric
>? ? ?and an
>? ? ? >? ? ?Imperial variant. Obviously I have the Metric one, however I
>? ? ?need an
>? ? ? >? ? ?Imperial one (or at least the number of teeth so I can get
>? ? ?one made up.
>? ? ? >? ? ?The Metric one has 32 teeth but this feels just a fraction
>? ? ?too big to
>? ? ? >? ? ?fit and get the bolts in the 'bearing block'* I have. (the
>? ? ?gearbox
>? ? ? >? ? ?output gear might also be different - they have subtly
>? ? ?different part
>? ? ? >? ? ?numbers).
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ?Basically what I need to know is what the numbers of teeth
>? ? ?the little
>? ? ? >? ? ?gear on the end of the Norton Gearbox output shaft and the
>? ? ?'Leadscrew
>? ? ? >? ? ?Drive Gear (English)* have, once I know what these are I can
>? ? ?either buy
>? ? ? >? ? ?or make replacements.
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ?Tim
>? ? ? >? ? ?(Hereford, UK)
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ?* that's the description in the parts list
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ?On 22/05/2025 01:47, Vedran via <>
>? ? ?< <>> wrote:
>? ? ? >? ? ? > You need to press the shaft out about 20mm as a unit more or
>? ? ? >? ? ?less, and
>? ? ? >? ? ? > then take the gears off one by one. On my metric machine, the
>? ? ? >? ? ?bearing on
>? ? ? >? ? ? > the right side (by the big gear) is a slip fit on the shaft,
>? ? ? >? ? ?while the
>? ? ? >? ? ? > other one is a press fit. It's therefore best to push from
>? ? ?right to
>? ? ? >? ? ? > left, and apply pressure on the shaft only (not the whole
>? ? ? >? ? ?bearing). Left
>? ? ? >? ? ? > hand side bearing gets pushed out of the casting in the
>? ? ?process, the
>? ? ? >? ? ? > right one stays in the casting. There's no way IMHO to do
>? ? ?this in a
>? ? ? >? ? ? > bearing friendly way without a press, so best to replace (at
>? ? ? >? ? ?least the
>? ? ? >? ? ? > left one) on reassembly if you tap the thing out with a
>? ? ?hammer.
>? ? ? >? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ? > I've uploaded two relevant reassembly videos. They are not
>? ? ?edited -
>? ? ? >? ? ? > sorry - but should give you an idea :)
>? ? ? >? ? ? > Just don't go banging on the stuff as I did, I was
>? ? ?young(er) and
>? ? ? >? ? ?stupid
>? ? ? >? ? ? > when I did this... made me cringe when I watched it now :)
>? ? ? >? ? ? > <
>? ? ?WIYRrp9d4nY> < <
>? ? ?WIYRrp9d4nY>>
>? ? ? >? ? ?< <>
>? ? ?< <>>>
>? ? ? >? ? ? > <
>? ? ?yOJphcM6JNQ> < <
>? ? ?yOJphcM6JNQ>>
>? ? ? >? ? ?< <>
>? ? ?< <>>>
>? ? ? >? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ? > Regards
>? ? ? >? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ? > Vedran
>? ? ? >? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ? > On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 2:23?AM roman fox via
>? ? ?<> <http://
>? ? ? > <>> <http://
>? ? ? >? ? ? > <> < <http://
>? ? ?>>> <romanfox68=[email protected]
>? ? ?<mailto:[email protected]>
>? ? ? >? ? ?<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>? ? ?<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>? ? ? >? ? ?<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>
>? ? ? >? ? ? > wrote:
>? ? ? >? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?Hi Tim could you send some photo ? Hmm i was look in spare
>? ? ? >? ? ?part list
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?and is nothing what should hold this shaft in ,similar
>? ? ?problem on
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?bought side when you try take off ? Ok the shaft can
>? ? ?go out
>? ? ? >? ? ?only on
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?leadscrew side at least on left side smallest one can pass
>? ? ? >? ? ?bearing
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?hole in body ,it is interesting- bearings has not lock
>? ? ? >? ? ?rings , check
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?up all gears are freely move during you try take off
>? ? ?shaft also i
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?would try move out bearing on quadrand side from
>? ? ?inside out
>? ? ? >? ? ?if you
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?have acces ,time to time also can have shaft on ends smole
>? ? ? >? ? ?mashrum
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?when you try nock in ,let us know if and what help to
>? ? ?take out it
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?regards Roman
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?---------- P?vodn¨ª e-mail ----------
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?Od: Tim D Schomer <rototype@...
>? ? ?<mailto:rototype@...>
>? ? ? >? ? ?<mailto:rototype@...
>? ? ?<mailto:rototype@...>>
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?<mailto:rototype@...
>? ? ?<mailto:rototype@...>
>? ? ? >? ? ?<mailto:rototype@...
>? ? ?<mailto:rototype@...>>>>
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?Komu: [email protected]
>? ? ?<mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
>? ? ?<mailto:[email protected]>>
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>? ? ?<mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
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>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?Datum: 21. 5. 2025 19:49:16
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?P?edm¨§t: [emcoV10lathe] Norton box Strip/Rebuild
>? ? ? >? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Ahoj v?ichni,
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Je ?as za?¨ªt pracovat na Blue V10, abych ji mohl
>? ? ?p?ipravit k
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?prodeji (pot?ebuji m¨ªsto) a pot?ebuji vym¨§nit vnit?ky
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Nortonov?ch box?.
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Pokud si pamatujete, p?ed p¨¢r lety jsem si po?¨ªdil
>? ? ?V10P
>? ? ? >? ? ?ve velmi
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?p¨§kn¨¦m stavu, to byl Imperial. Zat¨ªmco jsem ho
>? ? ??istil a
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?p?elakoval, vym¨§nil jsem ho za metrick? s pou?it¨ªm
>? ? ?²Ô¨§°ì³Ù±ð°ù?³¦³ó
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?d¨ªl? z modr¨¦ V10. Poda?ilo se mi sehnat metrickou
>? ? ?Nortonovou
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?p?evodovku V10p, co? mi to usnadnilo, ale te?
>? ? ?mus¨ªm p?estav¨§t
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?V10 na Imperial (proto?e ostatn¨ª d¨ªly v metrick?ch
>? ? ?²õ´Ç³Ü²õ³Ù²¹±¹¨¢³¦³ó
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?nem¨¢m) a bez pomoci n¨¢hradn¨ª Nortonov¨¦ p?evodovky
>? ? ? >? ? ?Imperial V10
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?mus¨ªm vyndat ozuben¨¢ kola z Imperial V10p Norton a
>? ? ? >? ? ?vym¨§nit je za
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?metrickou V10 Norton. (Doufejme, ?e to nakonec
>? ? ?p?inese i
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?n¨¢hradn¨ª metrickou p?evodovku V10p, je tu n¨§kdo,
>? ? ?kdo by o ni
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?st¨¢l za slu?nou cenu?)
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Zat¨ªm m¨¢m p?evodovku V10 pr¨¢zdnou a u V10p zbyla jen
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?sedmistup¨¾ov¨¢ osa, ale tu prost¨§ nem??u vyndat.
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?M¨¢m oba v¨¢lcov¨¦ ?epy vyta?en¨¦ z h?¨ªdele a kdy? na ni
>? ? ? >? ? ?poklepu z
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?obou konc?, h?¨ªdel se trochu pohybuje, ale po asi
>? ? ?2 mm se to
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?prost¨§ zastav¨ª. Boj¨ªm se, ?e kdy? to ut¨¢hnu p?¨ªli?
>? ? ?²õ¾±±ô²Ô¨§,
>? ? ? >? ? ?zlom¨ªm
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?odlitek.
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?M¨¢te n¨§jak¨¦ n¨¢vrhy, co bych mohl p?ehl¨¦dnout, nebo
>? ? ?je to jen
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?p?¨ªpad tlaku/n¨¢razu a p?¨ªpadn¨§ tepla, aby se to
>? ? ?dostalo ven?
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Mnohokr¨¢t d¨§kuji
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Tim
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?(Hereford, Spojen¨¦ kr¨¢lovstv¨ª)
>? ? ? >? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ? >
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >
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Re: Norton box Strip/Rebuild
Yes, if I can get the tooth counts I can then source them, I think I can get a blank made up for the leadscrew gear (currently 32T) and the gearbox output gear is pretty plain (the one I have is 20T - counted it today) I should be able to get it running.
Given time I can probably calculate what the ratio should be for it but that means a lot of head scratching.
Tun
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On 26/05/2025 00:09, Vedran via groups.io wrote: But you need imperial tooth counts?
Regards
Vedran
On Sat, May 24, 2025 at 2:28?PM Tim D Schomer via groups.io < groups.io> <rototype@... <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Thanks for the offer Vedran but I don't think it'll help, What I really
need is someone with a V10 with that section in bits who can count the
teeth for me. Or as a long shot the parts advertised with the number of
teeth listed.
Tim
(Hereford, UK)
On 24/05/2025 01:50, Vedran via groups.io <> wrote:
> I can scrounge up videos of my metric machine but from what I gather
> that won't really help you. Let me know if you need them.
>
> Regards
>
> Vedran
>
>
> On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 10:54?PM Tim D Schomer via groups.io
<> <
> groups.io <>>
<rototype@...
<mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>
>? ? ?Many thanks for the help on this so far...
>
>? ? ?Well, I managed to get both gearboxes stripped down, as
anticipated
>? ? ?I'll
>? ? ?need a couple of new bearings when I reassemble the V10p box
but I've
>? ? ?either got these (6201) or they're on order (6301).
>
>? ? ?I now have another issue that can't be solved by impact. The
outpur
>? ? ?gear
>? ? ?that connects to the leadscrew - apparently there's a Metric
and an
>? ? ?Imperial variant. Obviously I have the Metric one, however I
need an
>? ? ?Imperial one (or at least the number of teeth so I can get
one made up.
>? ? ?The Metric one has 32 teeth but this feels just a fraction
too big to
>? ? ?fit and get the bolts in the 'bearing block'* I have. (the
gearbox
>? ? ?output gear might also be different - they have subtly
different part
>? ? ?numbers).
>
>? ? ?Basically what I need to know is what the numbers of teeth
the little
>? ? ?gear on the end of the Norton Gearbox output shaft and the
'Leadscrew
>? ? ?Drive Gear (English)* have, once I know what these are I can
either buy
>? ? ?or make replacements.
>
>? ? ?Tim
>? ? ?(Hereford, UK)
>
>? ? ?* that's the description in the parts list
>
>? ? ?On 22/05/2025 01:47, Vedran via groups.io <>
< <>> wrote:
>? ? ? > You need to press the shaft out about 20mm as a unit more or
>? ? ?less, and
>? ? ? > then take the gears off one by one. On my metric machine, the
>? ? ?bearing on
>? ? ? > the right side (by the big gear) is a slip fit on the shaft,
>? ? ?while the
>? ? ? > other one is a press fit. It's therefore best to push from
right to
>? ? ? > left, and apply pressure on the shaft only (not the whole
>? ? ?bearing). Left
>? ? ? > hand side bearing gets pushed out of the casting in the
process, the
>? ? ? > right one stays in the casting. There's no way IMHO to do
this in a
>? ? ? > bearing friendly way without a press, so best to replace (at
>? ? ?least the
>? ? ? > left one) on reassembly if you tap the thing out with a
hammer.
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > I've uploaded two relevant reassembly videos. They are not
edited -
>? ? ? > sorry - but should give you an idea :)
>? ? ? > Just don't go banging on the stuff as I did, I was
young(er) and
>? ? ?stupid
>? ? ? > when I did this... made me cringe when I watched it now :)
>? ? ? > <
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>? ? ? > <
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>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > Regards
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > Vedran
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 2:23?AM roman fox via groups.io
<> <
> groups.io <>> <
>? ? ? > groups.io <> < <
groups.io>>> <romanfox68@...
<mailto:[email protected]>
>? ? ?<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>? ? ?<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>
>? ? ? > wrote:
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ?Hi Tim could you send some photo ? Hmm i was look in spare
>? ? ?part list
>? ? ? >? ? ?and is nothing what should hold this shaft in ,similar
problem on
>? ? ? >? ? ?bought side when you try take off ? Ok the shaft can
go out
>? ? ?only on
>? ? ? >? ? ?leadscrew side at least on left side smallest one can pass
>? ? ?bearing
>? ? ? >? ? ?hole in body ,it is interesting- bearings has not lock
>? ? ?rings , check
>? ? ? >? ? ?up all gears are freely move during you try take off
shaft also i
>? ? ? >? ? ?would try move out bearing on quadrand side from
inside out
>? ? ?if you
>? ? ? >? ? ?have acces ,time to time also can have shaft on ends smole
>? ? ?mashrum
>? ? ? >? ? ?when you try nock in ,let us know if and what help to
take out it
>? ? ? >? ? ?regards Roman
>? ? ? >? ? ?---------- P?vodn¨ª e-mail ----------
>? ? ? >? ? ?Od: Tim D Schomer <rototype@...
<mailto:rototype@...>
>? ? ?<mailto:rototype@...
<mailto:rototype@...>>
>? ? ? >? ? ?<mailto:rototype@...
<mailto:rototype@...>
>? ? ?<mailto:rototype@...
<mailto:rototype@...>>>>
>? ? ? >? ? ?Komu: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
>? ? ?<mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>>
>? ? ? >? ? ?Datum: 21. 5. 2025 19:49:16
>? ? ? >? ? ?P?edm¨§t: [emcoV10lathe] Norton box Strip/Rebuild
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Ahoj v?ichni,
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Je ?as za?¨ªt pracovat na Blue V10, abych ji mohl
p?ipravit k
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?prodeji (pot?ebuji m¨ªsto) a pot?ebuji vym¨§nit vnit?ky
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Nortonov?ch box?.
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Pokud si pamatujete, p?ed p¨¢r lety jsem si po?¨ªdil
V10P
>? ? ?ve velmi
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?p¨§kn¨¦m stavu, to byl Imperial. Zat¨ªmco jsem ho
?istil a
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?p?elakoval, vym¨§nil jsem ho za metrick? s pou?it¨ªm
²Ô¨§°ì³Ù±ð°ù?³¦³ó
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?d¨ªl? z modr¨¦ V10. Poda?ilo se mi sehnat metrickou
Nortonovou
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?p?evodovku V10p, co? mi to usnadnilo, ale te?
mus¨ªm p?estav¨§t
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?V10 na Imperial (proto?e ostatn¨ª d¨ªly v metrick?ch
²õ´Ç³Ü²õ³Ù²¹±¹¨¢³¦³ó
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?nem¨¢m) a bez pomoci n¨¢hradn¨ª Nortonov¨¦ p?evodovky
>? ? ?Imperial V10
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?mus¨ªm vyndat ozuben¨¢ kola z Imperial V10p Norton a
>? ? ?vym¨§nit je za
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?metrickou V10 Norton. (Doufejme, ?e to nakonec
p?inese i
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?n¨¢hradn¨ª metrickou p?evodovku V10p, je tu n¨§kdo,
kdo by o ni
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?st¨¢l za slu?nou cenu?)
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Zat¨ªm m¨¢m p?evodovku V10 pr¨¢zdnou a u V10p zbyla jen
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?sedmistup¨¾ov¨¢ osa, ale tu prost¨§ nem??u vyndat.
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?M¨¢m oba v¨¢lcov¨¦ ?epy vyta?en¨¦ z h?¨ªdele a kdy? na ni
>? ? ?poklepu z
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?obou konc?, h?¨ªdel se trochu pohybuje, ale po asi
2 mm se to
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?prost¨§ zastav¨ª. Boj¨ªm se, ?e kdy? to ut¨¢hnu p?¨ªli?
²õ¾±±ô²Ô¨§,
>? ? ?zlom¨ªm
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?odlitek.
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?M¨¢te n¨§jak¨¦ n¨¢vrhy, co bych mohl p?ehl¨¦dnout, nebo
je to jen
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?p?¨ªpad tlaku/n¨¢razu a p?¨ªpadn¨§ tepla, aby se to
dostalo ven?
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Mnohokr¨¢t d¨§kuji
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Tim
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?(Hereford, Spojen¨¦ kr¨¢lovstv¨ª)
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Norton box Strip/Rebuild
But you need imperial tooth counts?
On Sat, May 24, 2025 at 2:28?PM Tim D Schomer via <rototype= [email protected]> wrote: Thanks for the offer Vedran but I don't think it'll help, What I really
need is someone with a V10 with that section in bits who can count the
teeth for me. Or as a long shot the parts advertised with the number of
teeth listed.
Tim
(Hereford, UK)
On 24/05/2025 01:50, Vedran via wrote:
> I can scrounge up videos of my metric machine but from what I gather
> that won't really help you. Let me know if you need them.
>
> Regards
>
> Vedran
>
>
> On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 10:54?PM Tim D Schomer via <http://
> > <rototype=[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>? ? ?Many thanks for the help on this so far...
>
>? ? ?Well, I managed to get both gearboxes stripped down, as anticipated
>? ? ?I'll
>? ? ?need a couple of new bearings when I reassemble the V10p box but I've
>? ? ?either got these (6201) or they're on order (6301).
>
>? ? ?I now have another issue that can't be solved by impact. The outpur
>? ? ?gear
>? ? ?that connects to the leadscrew - apparently there's a Metric and an
>? ? ?Imperial variant. Obviously I have the Metric one, however I need an
>? ? ?Imperial one (or at least the number of teeth so I can get one made up.
>? ? ?The Metric one has 32 teeth but this feels just a fraction too big to
>? ? ?fit and get the bolts in the 'bearing block'* I have. (the gearbox
>? ? ?output gear might also be different - they have subtly different part
>? ? ?numbers).
>
>? ? ?Basically what I need to know is what the numbers of teeth the little
>? ? ?gear on the end of the Norton Gearbox output shaft and the 'Leadscrew
>? ? ?Drive Gear (English)* have, once I know what these are I can either buy
>? ? ?or make replacements.
>
>? ? ?Tim
>? ? ?(Hereford, UK)
>
>? ? ?* that's the description in the parts list
>
>? ? ?On 22/05/2025 01:47, Vedran via <> wrote:
>? ? ? > You need to press the shaft out about 20mm as a unit more or
>? ? ?less, and
>? ? ? > then take the gears off one by one. On my metric machine, the
>? ? ?bearing on
>? ? ? > the right side (by the big gear) is a slip fit on the shaft,
>? ? ?while the
>? ? ? > other one is a press fit. It's therefore best to push from right to
>? ? ? > left, and apply pressure on the shaft only (not the whole
>? ? ?bearing). Left
>? ? ? > hand side bearing gets pushed out of the casting in the process, the
>? ? ? > right one stays in the casting. There's no way IMHO to do this in a
>? ? ? > bearing friendly way without a press, so best to replace (at
>? ? ?least the
>? ? ? > left one) on reassembly if you tap the thing out with a hammer.
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > I've uploaded two relevant reassembly videos. They are not edited -
>? ? ? > sorry - but should give you an idea :)
>? ? ? > Just don't go banging on the stuff as I did, I was young(er) and
>? ? ?stupid
>? ? ? > when I did this... made me cringe when I watched it now :)
>? ? ? > <>
>? ? ?< <>>
>? ? ? > <>
>? ? ?< <>>
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > Regards
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > Vedran
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 2:23?AM roman fox via <http://
>? ? ?> <http://
>? ? ? > <>> <romanfox68=[email protected]
>? ? ?<mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
>? ? ?<mailto:[email protected]>>>
>? ? ? > wrote:
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ?Hi Tim could you send some photo ? Hmm i was look in spare
>? ? ?part list
>? ? ? >? ? ?and is nothing what should hold this shaft in ,similar problem on
>? ? ? >? ? ?bought side when you try take off ? Ok the shaft can go out
>? ? ?only on
>? ? ? >? ? ?leadscrew side at least on left side smallest one can pass
>? ? ?bearing
>? ? ? >? ? ?hole in body ,it is interesting- bearings has not lock
>? ? ?rings , check
>? ? ? >? ? ?up all gears are freely move during you try take off shaft also i
>? ? ? >? ? ?would try move out bearing on quadrand side from inside out
>? ? ?if you
>? ? ? >? ? ?have acces ,time to time also can have shaft on ends smole
>? ? ?mashrum
>? ? ? >? ? ?when you try nock in ,let us know if and what help to take out it
>? ? ? >? ? ?regards Roman
>? ? ? >? ? ?---------- P?vodn¨ª e-mail ----------
>? ? ? >? ? ?Od: Tim D Schomer <rototype@...
>? ? ?<mailto:rototype@...>
>? ? ? >? ? ?<mailto:rototype@...
>? ? ?<mailto:rototype@...>>>
>? ? ? >? ? ?Komu: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>? ? ?<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>? ? ? >? ? ?Datum: 21. 5. 2025 19:49:16
>? ? ? >? ? ?P?edm¨§t: [emcoV10lathe] Norton box Strip/Rebuild
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Ahoj v?ichni,
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Je ?as za?¨ªt pracovat na Blue V10, abych ji mohl p?ipravit k
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?prodeji (pot?ebuji m¨ªsto) a pot?ebuji vym¨§nit vnit?ky
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Nortonov?ch box?.
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Pokud si pamatujete, p?ed p¨¢r lety jsem si po?¨ªdil V10P
>? ? ?ve velmi
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?p¨§kn¨¦m stavu, to byl Imperial. Zat¨ªmco jsem ho ?istil a
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?p?elakoval, vym¨§nil jsem ho za metrick? s pou?it¨ªm ²Ô¨§°ì³Ù±ð°ù?³¦³ó
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?d¨ªl? z modr¨¦ V10. Poda?ilo se mi sehnat metrickou Nortonovou
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?p?evodovku V10p, co? mi to usnadnilo, ale te? mus¨ªm p?estav¨§t
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?V10 na Imperial (proto?e ostatn¨ª d¨ªly v metrick?ch ²õ´Ç³Ü²õ³Ù²¹±¹¨¢³¦³ó
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?nem¨¢m) a bez pomoci n¨¢hradn¨ª Nortonov¨¦ p?evodovky
>? ? ?Imperial V10
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?mus¨ªm vyndat ozuben¨¢ kola z Imperial V10p Norton a
>? ? ?vym¨§nit je za
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?metrickou V10 Norton. (Doufejme, ?e to nakonec p?inese i
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?n¨¢hradn¨ª metrickou p?evodovku V10p, je tu n¨§kdo, kdo by o ni
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?st¨¢l za slu?nou cenu?)
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Zat¨ªm m¨¢m p?evodovku V10 pr¨¢zdnou a u V10p zbyla jen
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?sedmistup¨¾ov¨¢ osa, ale tu prost¨§ nem??u vyndat.
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?M¨¢m oba v¨¢lcov¨¦ ?epy vyta?en¨¦ z h?¨ªdele a kdy? na ni
>? ? ?poklepu z
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?obou konc?, h?¨ªdel se trochu pohybuje, ale po asi 2 mm se to
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?prost¨§ zastav¨ª. Boj¨ªm se, ?e kdy? to ut¨¢hnu p?¨ªli? ²õ¾±±ô²Ô¨§,
>? ? ?zlom¨ªm
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?odlitek.
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?M¨¢te n¨§jak¨¦ n¨¢vrhy, co bych mohl p?ehl¨¦dnout, nebo je to jen
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?p?¨ªpad tlaku/n¨¢razu a p?¨ªpadn¨§ tepla, aby se to dostalo ven?
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Mnohokr¨¢t d¨§kuji
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Tim
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?(Hereford, Spojen¨¦ kr¨¢lovstv¨ª)
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >
>
>
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I really like TouchDRO and did this set up on my V10P because I wanted it be as small and out of the way as possible: https://lensprojects.com/2015/09/27/touchdro-machine-position-digital-readout/
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Tim D Schomer
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