One piece of advice I would give if you're manhandling it (if you haven't already removed the Power feed gearbox) is definitely remove the selector knob(s) from the front (it unscrews with a flat wrench/spanner - just pull the outer to reveal the flats). If it rolls and lands on the front this will break the selector arm for the gearbox and they can be ... troublesome ... to find replacements for. I speak from experience here. (OK I repaired mine but it ain't pretty)
It unscrews, regular right hand thread, ie, turn it counter clockwise when looking from tailstock to headstock. They can be pretty stuck and care has to be taken when undoing them. In regular situations, you put the gearbox in the lowest gear and unscrew the thing by hand(s). Jerking it makes sense as well... but if that is not enough to loosen the thing you'll want to search for "stuck chuck" topics. No hammers, levers, etc. In any case, the whole machine is on the order of 150kg, chuck is maybe 10kg of that and tailstock is another 10kg, so not much better. Taking off other pieces is not worth the trouble unless you intend to strip it all down anyway. You'll need an engine hoist or some sort of crane to lift it by yourself. Two young (and athletic) people can just about move the thing, three are better if you can find them. Regards Vedran On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 7:46?PM Djed.geo via groups.io < groups.io> <Djed.geo@... <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Good morning. I just acquired a V10-P which externally looks to have been well maintained. I have yet to get it into my shop and will likely have many more questions as I begin to clean it up. My initial challenge is getting the lathe out of my truck and I¡¯m working to remove any extra weight including the chuck. Before I damage anything I thought I would reach out on the proper method of removing the Emco branded three jaw chuck. I¡¯ve loosened what appears to be a locking screw behind the chuck but I am curious as to the next steps (pull off, screw off, ??).? If screw off, what do you clamp onto?? I¡¯ve seen an instructional video where there are slots in the back of the spindle but those don¡¯t exist on mine. I¡¯ve attached a picture in case it helps. Thanks in advance for what may seem like a silly question. I¡¯ve been using a Compact 5 for the last few years and I suspect there are quite a few differences between the two machines that I¡¯ll be learning about. David
Best way, put straps through the webbing in between the ways. I don't have a picture of that exact setup, I have one when I've had the leadscrew and feedshaft off, so I just strapped it around the bed. You can't do that when it's assembled as it will bend the leadscrew and feedshaft.
This is about where you want the straps to land - yes, it says "lift point" on those pieces of tape :) I remember I marked them when I found a good balance point.
That was with empty headstock, no norton box, no change gears and no tailstock, but possibly with the stand so maybe move the left one a bit further left. Don't lift by chuck, headstock or carriage. As long as you're strapped to the bed, you're probably fine.
Thing is not exactly top heavy but it's not far off either. I don't remember it trying to capsize on me (like a ship), but wiggle it a bit when it's barely off the floor to check for that.
It unscrews, regular right hand thread, ie, turn it counter clockwise when looking from tailstock to headstock.
They can be pretty stuck and care has to be taken when undoing them. In regular situations, you put the gearbox in the lowest gear and unscrew the thing by hand(s). Jerking it makes sense as well... but if that is not enough to loosen the thing you'll want to search for "stuck chuck" topics. No hammers, levers, etc.
In any case, the whole machine is on the order of 150kg, chuck is maybe 10kg of that and tailstock is another 10kg, so not much better. Taking off other pieces is not worth the trouble unless you intend to strip it all down anyway.
You'll need an engine hoist or some sort of crane to lift it by yourself. Two young (and athletic) people can just about move the thing, three are better if you can find them.
On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 7:46?PM Djed.geo via <Djed.geo=[email protected]> wrote:
Good morning.?
I just acquired a V10-P which externally looks to have been well maintained. I have yet to get it into my shop and will likely have many more questions as I begin to clean it up.?
My initial challenge is getting the lathe out of my truck and I¡¯m working to remove any extra weight including the chuck.?
Before I damage anything I thought I would reach out on the proper method of removing the Emco branded three jaw chuck. I¡¯ve loosened what appears to be a locking screw behind the chuck but I am curious as to the next steps (pull off, screw off, ??).? If screw off, what do you clamp onto?? I¡¯ve seen an instructional video where there are slots in the back of the spindle but those don¡¯t exist on mine.?
I¡¯ve attached a picture in case it helps.?
Thanks in advance for what may seem like a silly question. ?
I¡¯ve been using a Compact 5 for the last few years and I suspect there are quite a few differences between the two machines that I¡¯ll be learning about.?
I just acquired a V10-P which externally looks to have been well maintained. I have yet to get it into my shop and will likely have many more questions as I begin to clean it up.?
My initial challenge is getting the lathe out of my truck and I¡¯m working to remove any extra weight including the chuck.?
Before I damage anything I thought I would reach out on the proper method of removing the Emco branded three jaw chuck. I¡¯ve loosened what appears to be a locking screw behind the chuck but I am curious as to the next steps (pull off, screw off, ??). ?If screw off, what do you clamp onto? ?I¡¯ve seen an instructional video where there are slots in the back of the spindle but those don¡¯t exist on mine.?
I¡¯ve attached a picture in case it helps.?
Thanks in advance for what may seem like a silly question. ?
I¡¯ve been using a Compact 5 for the last few years and I suspect there are quite a few differences between the two machines that I¡¯ll be learning about.?
Thanks for your pricing input and for your editing compliment!?
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Editing was self taught, or rather YouTube taught. I've had a camera since I shot for the High School newspaper in 1970, so I've always been seeing the world thru a lens. The EOS R came with video capability so I shot some.. Found Davinci Resolve was (and is) free and off I went. That's part of why the lathe is going.? I have too many hobbies to keep up with them all!? That and 3D printing could probably accomplish the oddball projects I end up with.?
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I'll see what the movers say about putting the lathe in the basement. I, with two other older friends got it out of the basement in Dayton OH by taking it apart and having a refridgerator dolly at hand. So, yeah, it is possible. But will I use it??
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Thanks for your reply,
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Carey
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Emco V10P with mill and many tools. New 1984 from my wife's uncle. I brought it to Florida from Dayton in 2006 and have used it to turn plastic, brass, aluminum and the odd steel part. It all works. I am moving and have decided to sell the lathe. Anyone interested, or interested in more information please let me know.?
I paid $2k for a well tooled, but older (blue), V10P about 10 years ago. It seems like you should be able to find a local buyer in that range, though I think the used market for manual machines has softened a bit. OTOH, you can definitely get a V10P down a stairs by taking it apart and having two strong bodies. Lastly, that video was excellent. Did you pick up those video skills yourself, or have someone shoot it for you?
On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 1:17?AM Tim D Schomer via <rototype=[email protected]> wrote:
Yes, if I can get the tooth counts I can then source them, I think I can
get a blank made up for the leadscrew gear (currently 32T) and the
gearbox output gear is pretty plain (the one I have is 20T - counted it
today) I should be able to get it running.
Given time I can probably calculate what the ratio should be for it but
that means a lot of head scratching.
Tun
On 26/05/2025 00:09, Vedran via wrote:
> But you need imperial tooth counts?
>
> Regards
>
> Vedran
>
>
> On Sat, May 24, 2025 at 2:28?PM Tim D Schomer via <http://
> > <rototype=[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>? ? ?Thanks for the offer Vedran but I don't think it'll help, What I really
>? ? ?need is someone with a V10 with that section in bits who can count the
>? ? ?teeth for me. Or as a long shot the parts advertised with the number of
>? ? ?teeth listed.
>
>? ? ?Tim
>? ? ?(Hereford, UK)
>
>? ? ?On 24/05/2025 01:50, Vedran via <> wrote:
>? ? ? > I can scrounge up videos of my metric machine but from what I gather
>? ? ? > that won't really help you. Let me know if you need them.
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > Regards
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > Vedran
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 10:54?PM Tim D Schomer via
>? ? ?<> <http://
>? ? ? > <>>
>? ? ?<rototype=[email protected]
>? ? ?<mailto:[email protected]>
>? ? ? > <mailto:[email protected]
>? ? ?<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ?Many thanks for the help on this so far...
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ?Well, I managed to get both gearboxes stripped down, as
>? ? ?anticipated
>? ? ? >? ? ?I'll
>? ? ? >? ? ?need a couple of new bearings when I reassemble the V10p box
>? ? ?but I've
>? ? ? >? ? ?either got these (6201) or they're on order (6301).
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ?I now have another issue that can't be solved by impact. The
>? ? ?outpur
>? ? ? >? ? ?gear
>? ? ? >? ? ?that connects to the leadscrew - apparently there's a Metric
>? ? ?and an
>? ? ? >? ? ?Imperial variant. Obviously I have the Metric one, however I
>? ? ?need an
>? ? ? >? ? ?Imperial one (or at least the number of teeth so I can get
>? ? ?one made up.
>? ? ? >? ? ?The Metric one has 32 teeth but this feels just a fraction
>? ? ?too big to
>? ? ? >? ? ?fit and get the bolts in the 'bearing block'* I have. (the
>? ? ?gearbox
>? ? ? >? ? ?output gear might also be different - they have subtly
>? ? ?different part
>? ? ? >? ? ?numbers).
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ?Basically what I need to know is what the numbers of teeth
>? ? ?the little
>? ? ? >? ? ?gear on the end of the Norton Gearbox output shaft and the
>? ? ?'Leadscrew
>? ? ? >? ? ?Drive Gear (English)* have, once I know what these are I can
>? ? ?either buy
>? ? ? >? ? ?or make replacements.
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ?Tim
>? ? ? >? ? ?(Hereford, UK)
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ?* that's the description in the parts list
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ?On 22/05/2025 01:47, Vedran via <>
>? ? ?< <>> wrote:
>? ? ? >? ? ? > You need to press the shaft out about 20mm as a unit more or
>? ? ? >? ? ?less, and
>? ? ? >? ? ? > then take the gears off one by one. On my metric machine, the
>? ? ? >? ? ?bearing on
>? ? ? >? ? ? > the right side (by the big gear) is a slip fit on the shaft,
>? ? ? >? ? ?while the
>? ? ? >? ? ? > other one is a press fit. It's therefore best to push from
>? ? ?right to
>? ? ? >? ? ? > left, and apply pressure on the shaft only (not the whole
>? ? ? >? ? ?bearing). Left
>? ? ? >? ? ? > hand side bearing gets pushed out of the casting in the
>? ? ?process, the
>? ? ? >? ? ? > right one stays in the casting. There's no way IMHO to do
>? ? ?this in a
>? ? ? >? ? ? > bearing friendly way without a press, so best to replace (at
>? ? ? >? ? ?least the
>? ? ? >? ? ? > left one) on reassembly if you tap the thing out with a
>? ? ?hammer.
>? ? ? >? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ? > I've uploaded two relevant reassembly videos. They are not
>? ? ?edited -
>? ? ? >? ? ? > sorry - but should give you an idea :)
>? ? ? >? ? ? > Just don't go banging on the stuff as I did, I was
>? ? ?young(er) and
>? ? ? >? ? ?stupid
>? ? ? >? ? ? > when I did this... made me cringe when I watched it now :)
>? ? ? >? ? ? > <
>? ? ?WIYRrp9d4nY> < <
>? ? ?WIYRrp9d4nY>>
>? ? ? >? ? ?< <>
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>? ? ? >? ? ? > <
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>? ? ?yOJphcM6JNQ>>
>? ? ? >? ? ?< <>
>? ? ?< <>>>
>? ? ? >? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ? > Regards
>? ? ? >? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ? > Vedran
>? ? ? >? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ? > On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 2:23?AM roman fox via
>? ? ?<> <http://
>? ? ? > <>> <http://
>? ? ? >? ? ? > <> < <http://
>? ? ?>>> <romanfox68=[email protected]
>? ? ?<mailto:[email protected]>
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>? ? ? >? ? ?<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>
>? ? ? >? ? ? > wrote:
>? ? ? >? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?Hi Tim could you send some photo ? Hmm i was look in spare
>? ? ? >? ? ?part list
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?and is nothing what should hold this shaft in ,similar
>? ? ?problem on
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?bought side when you try take off ? Ok the shaft can
>? ? ?go out
>? ? ? >? ? ?only on
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?leadscrew side at least on left side smallest one can pass
>? ? ? >? ? ?bearing
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?hole in body ,it is interesting- bearings has not lock
>? ? ? >? ? ?rings , check
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?up all gears are freely move during you try take off
>? ? ?shaft also i
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?would try move out bearing on quadrand side from
>? ? ?inside out
>? ? ? >? ? ?if you
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?have acces ,time to time also can have shaft on ends smole
>? ? ? >? ? ?mashrum
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?when you try nock in ,let us know if and what help to
>? ? ?take out it
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?regards Roman
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?---------- P?vodn¨ª e-mail ----------
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?Od: Tim D Schomer <rototype@...
>? ? ?<mailto:rototype@...>
>? ? ? >? ? ?<mailto:rototype@...
>? ? ?<mailto:rototype@...>>
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?<mailto:rototype@...
>? ? ?<mailto:rototype@...>
>? ? ? >? ? ?<mailto:rototype@...
>? ? ?<mailto:rototype@...>>>>
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?Komu: [email protected]
>? ? ?<mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
>? ? ?<mailto:[email protected]>>
>? ? ? >? ? ?<mailto:[email protected]
>? ? ?<mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
>? ? ?<mailto:[email protected]>>>
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?Datum: 21. 5. 2025 19:49:16
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ?P?edm¨§t: [emcoV10lathe] Norton box Strip/Rebuild
>? ? ? >? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Ahoj v?ichni,
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Je ?as za?¨ªt pracovat na Blue V10, abych ji mohl
>? ? ?p?ipravit k
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?prodeji (pot?ebuji m¨ªsto) a pot?ebuji vym¨§nit vnit?ky
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Nortonov?ch box?.
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Pokud si pamatujete, p?ed p¨¢r lety jsem si po?¨ªdil
>? ? ?V10P
>? ? ? >? ? ?ve velmi
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?p¨§kn¨¦m stavu, to byl Imperial. Zat¨ªmco jsem ho
>? ? ??istil a
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?p?elakoval, vym¨§nil jsem ho za metrick? s pou?it¨ªm
>? ? ?²Ô¨§°ì³Ù±ð°ù?³¦³ó
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?d¨ªl? z modr¨¦ V10. Poda?ilo se mi sehnat metrickou
>? ? ?Nortonovou
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?p?evodovku V10p, co? mi to usnadnilo, ale te?
>? ? ?mus¨ªm p?estav¨§t
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?V10 na Imperial (proto?e ostatn¨ª d¨ªly v metrick?ch
>? ? ?²õ´Ç³Ü²õ³Ù²¹±¹¨¢³¦³ó
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?nem¨¢m) a bez pomoci n¨¢hradn¨ª Nortonov¨¦ p?evodovky
>? ? ? >? ? ?Imperial V10
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?mus¨ªm vyndat ozuben¨¢ kola z Imperial V10p Norton a
>? ? ? >? ? ?vym¨§nit je za
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?metrickou V10 Norton. (Doufejme, ?e to nakonec
>? ? ?p?inese i
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?n¨¢hradn¨ª metrickou p?evodovku V10p, je tu n¨§kdo,
>? ? ?kdo by o ni
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?st¨¢l za slu?nou cenu?)
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Zat¨ªm m¨¢m p?evodovku V10 pr¨¢zdnou a u V10p zbyla jen
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?sedmistup¨¾ov¨¢ osa, ale tu prost¨§ nem??u vyndat.
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?M¨¢m oba v¨¢lcov¨¦ ?epy vyta?en¨¦ z h?¨ªdele a kdy? na ni
>? ? ? >? ? ?poklepu z
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?obou konc?, h?¨ªdel se trochu pohybuje, ale po asi
>? ? ?2 mm se to
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?prost¨§ zastav¨ª. Boj¨ªm se, ?e kdy? to ut¨¢hnu p?¨ªli?
>? ? ?²õ¾±±ô²Ô¨§,
>? ? ? >? ? ?³ú±ô´Ç³¾¨ª³¾
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?odlitek.
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?M¨¢te n¨§jak¨¦ n¨¢vrhy, co bych mohl p?ehl¨¦dnout, nebo
>? ? ?je to jen
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?p?¨ªpad tlaku/n¨¢razu a p?¨ªpadn¨§ tepla, aby se to
>? ? ?dostalo ven?
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Mnohokr¨¢t d¨§kuji
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Tim
>? ? ? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?(Hereford, Spojen¨¦ kr¨¢lovstv¨ª)
>? ? ? >? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ? >
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Yes, if I can get the tooth counts I can then source them, I think I can get a blank made up for the leadscrew gear (currently 32T) and the gearbox output gear is pretty plain (the one I have is 20T - counted it today) I should be able to get it running.
Given time I can probably calculate what the ratio should be for it but that means a lot of head scratching.
But you need imperial tooth counts? Regards Vedran On Sat, May 24, 2025 at 2:28?PM Tim D Schomer via groups.io < groups.io> <rototype@... <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Thanks for the offer Vedran but I don't think it'll help, What I really need is someone with a V10 with that section in bits who can count the teeth for me. Or as a long shot the parts advertised with the number of teeth listed. Tim (Hereford, UK) On 24/05/2025 01:50, Vedran via groups.io <> wrote: > I can scrounge up videos of my metric machine but from what I gather > that won't really help you. Let me know if you need them. > > Regards > > Vedran > > > On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 10:54?PM Tim D Schomer via groups.io <> < > groups.io <>> <rototype@... <mailto:[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > >? ? ?Many thanks for the help on this so far... > >? ? ?Well, I managed to get both gearboxes stripped down, as anticipated >? ? ?I'll >? ? ?need a couple of new bearings when I reassemble the V10p box but I've >? ? ?either got these (6201) or they're on order (6301). > >? ? ?I now have another issue that can't be solved by impact. The outpur >? ? ?gear >? ? ?that connects to the leadscrew - apparently there's a Metric and an >? ? ?Imperial variant. Obviously I have the Metric one, however I need an >? ? ?Imperial one (or at least the number of teeth so I can get one made up. >? ? ?The Metric one has 32 teeth but this feels just a fraction too big to >? ? ?fit and get the bolts in the 'bearing block'* I have. (the gearbox >? ? ?output gear might also be different - they have subtly different part >? ? ?numbers). > >? ? ?Basically what I need to know is what the numbers of teeth the little >? ? ?gear on the end of the Norton Gearbox output shaft and the 'Leadscrew >? ? ?Drive Gear (English)* have, once I know what these are I can either buy >? ? ?or make replacements. > >? ? ?Tim >? ? ?(Hereford, UK) > >? ? ?* that's the description in the parts list > >? ? ?On 22/05/2025 01:47, Vedran via groups.io <> < <>> wrote: >? ? ? > You need to press the shaft out about 20mm as a unit more or >? ? ?less, and >? ? ? > then take the gears off one by one. On my metric machine, the >? ? ?bearing on >? ? ? > the right side (by the big gear) is a slip fit on the shaft, >? ? ?while the >? ? ? > other one is a press fit. It's therefore best to push from right to >? ? ? > left, and apply pressure on the shaft only (not the whole >? ? ?bearing). Left >? ? ? > hand side bearing gets pushed out of the casting in the process, the >? ? ? > right one stays in the casting. There's no way IMHO to do this in a >? ? ? > bearing friendly way without a press, so best to replace (at >? ? ?least the >? ? ? > left one) on reassembly if you tap the thing out with a hammer. >? ? ? > >? ? ? > I've uploaded two relevant reassembly videos. They are not edited - >? ? ? > sorry - but should give you an idea :) >? ? ? > Just don't go banging on the stuff as I did, I was young(er) and >? ? ?stupid >? ? ? > when I did this... made me cringe when I watched it now :) >? ? ? > < WIYRrp9d4nY> < < WIYRrp9d4nY>> >? ? ?< <> < <>>> >? ? ? > < yOJphcM6JNQ> < < yOJphcM6JNQ>> >? ? ?< <> < <>>> >? ? ? > >? ? ? > Regards >? ? ? > >? ? ? > Vedran >? ? ? > >? ? ? > >? ? ? > On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 2:23?AM roman fox via groups.io <> < > groups.io <>> < >? ? ? > groups.io <> < < groups.io>>> <romanfox68@... <mailto:[email protected]> >? ? ?<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >? ? ?<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> >? ? ? > wrote: >? ? ? > >? ? ? >? ? ?Hi Tim could you send some photo ? Hmm i was look in spare >? ? ?part list >? ? ? >? ? ?and is nothing what should hold this shaft in ,similar problem on >? ? ? >? ? ?bought side when you try take off ? Ok the shaft can go out >? ? ?only on >? ? ? >? ? ?leadscrew side at least on left side smallest one can pass >? ? ?bearing >? ? ? >? ? ?hole in body ,it is interesting- bearings has not lock >? ? ?rings , check >? ? ? >? ? ?up all gears are freely move during you try take off shaft also i >? ? ? >? ? ?would try move out bearing on quadrand side from inside out >? ? ?if you >? ? ? >? ? ?have acces ,time to time also can have shaft on ends smole >? ? ?mashrum >? ? ? >? ? ?when you try nock in ,let us know if and what help to take out it >? ? ? >? ? ?regards Roman >? ? ? >? ? ?---------- P?vodn¨ª e-mail ---------- >? ? ? >? ? ?Od: Tim D Schomer <rototype@... <mailto:rototype@...> >? ? ?<mailto:rototype@... <mailto:rototype@...>> >? ? ? >? ? ?<mailto:rototype@... <mailto:rototype@...> >? ? ?<mailto:rototype@... <mailto:rototype@...>>>> >? ? ? >? ? ?Komu: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >? ? ?<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >? ? ? >? ? ?Datum: 21. 5. 2025 19:49:16 >? ? ? >? ? ?P?edm¨§t: [emcoV10lathe] Norton box Strip/Rebuild >? ? ? > >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Ahoj v?ichni, >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Je ?as za?¨ªt pracovat na Blue V10, abych ji mohl p?ipravit k >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?prodeji (pot?ebuji m¨ªsto) a pot?ebuji vym¨§nit vnit?ky >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Nortonov?ch box?. >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Pokud si pamatujete, p?ed p¨¢r lety jsem si po?¨ªdil V10P >? ? ?ve velmi >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?p¨§kn¨¦m stavu, to byl Imperial. Zat¨ªmco jsem ho ?istil a >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?p?elakoval, vym¨§nil jsem ho za metrick? s pou?it¨ªm ²Ô¨§°ì³Ù±ð°ù?³¦³ó >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?d¨ªl? z modr¨¦ V10. Poda?ilo se mi sehnat metrickou Nortonovou >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?p?evodovku V10p, co? mi to usnadnilo, ale te? mus¨ªm p?estav¨§t >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?V10 na Imperial (proto?e ostatn¨ª d¨ªly v metrick?ch ²õ´Ç³Ü²õ³Ù²¹±¹¨¢³¦³ó >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?nem¨¢m) a bez pomoci n¨¢hradn¨ª Nortonov¨¦ p?evodovky >? ? ?Imperial V10 >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?mus¨ªm vyndat ozuben¨¢ kola z Imperial V10p Norton a >? ? ?vym¨§nit je za >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?metrickou V10 Norton. (Doufejme, ?e to nakonec p?inese i >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?n¨¢hradn¨ª metrickou p?evodovku V10p, je tu n¨§kdo, kdo by o ni >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?st¨¢l za slu?nou cenu?) >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Zat¨ªm m¨¢m p?evodovku V10 pr¨¢zdnou a u V10p zbyla jen >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?sedmistup¨¾ov¨¢ osa, ale tu prost¨§ nem??u vyndat. >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?M¨¢m oba v¨¢lcov¨¦ ?epy vyta?en¨¦ z h?¨ªdele a kdy? na ni >? ? ?poklepu z >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?obou konc?, h?¨ªdel se trochu pohybuje, ale po asi 2 mm se to >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?prost¨§ zastav¨ª. Boj¨ªm se, ?e kdy? to ut¨¢hnu p?¨ªli? ²õ¾±±ô²Ô¨§, >? ? ?³ú±ô´Ç³¾¨ª³¾ >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?odlitek. >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?M¨¢te n¨§jak¨¦ n¨¢vrhy, co bych mohl p?ehl¨¦dnout, nebo je to jen >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?p?¨ªpad tlaku/n¨¢razu a p?¨ªpadn¨§ tepla, aby se to dostalo ven? >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Mnohokr¨¢t d¨§kuji >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Tim >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?(Hereford, Spojen¨¦ kr¨¢lovstv¨ª) >? ? ? > >? ? ? > > > > > > > >
On Sat, May 24, 2025 at 2:28?PM Tim D Schomer via <rototype=[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks for the offer Vedran but I don't think it'll help, What I really
need is someone with a V10 with that section in bits who can count the
teeth for me. Or as a long shot the parts advertised with the number of
teeth listed.
Tim
(Hereford, UK)
On 24/05/2025 01:50, Vedran via wrote:
> I can scrounge up videos of my metric machine but from what I gather
> that won't really help you. Let me know if you need them.
>
> Regards
>
> Vedran
>
>
> On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 10:54?PM Tim D Schomer via <http://
> > <rototype=[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>? ? ?Many thanks for the help on this so far...
>
>? ? ?Well, I managed to get both gearboxes stripped down, as anticipated
>? ? ?I'll
>? ? ?need a couple of new bearings when I reassemble the V10p box but I've
>? ? ?either got these (6201) or they're on order (6301).
>
>? ? ?I now have another issue that can't be solved by impact. The outpur
>? ? ?gear
>? ? ?that connects to the leadscrew - apparently there's a Metric and an
>? ? ?Imperial variant. Obviously I have the Metric one, however I need an
>? ? ?Imperial one (or at least the number of teeth so I can get one made up.
>? ? ?The Metric one has 32 teeth but this feels just a fraction too big to
>? ? ?fit and get the bolts in the 'bearing block'* I have. (the gearbox
>? ? ?output gear might also be different - they have subtly different part
>? ? ?numbers).
>
>? ? ?Basically what I need to know is what the numbers of teeth the little
>? ? ?gear on the end of the Norton Gearbox output shaft and the 'Leadscrew
>? ? ?Drive Gear (English)* have, once I know what these are I can either buy
>? ? ?or make replacements.
>
>? ? ?Tim
>? ? ?(Hereford, UK)
>
>? ? ?* that's the description in the parts list
>
>? ? ?On 22/05/2025 01:47, Vedran via <> wrote:
>? ? ? > You need to press the shaft out about 20mm as a unit more or
>? ? ?less, and
>? ? ? > then take the gears off one by one. On my metric machine, the
>? ? ?bearing on
>? ? ? > the right side (by the big gear) is a slip fit on the shaft,
>? ? ?while the
>? ? ? > other one is a press fit. It's therefore best to push from right to
>? ? ? > left, and apply pressure on the shaft only (not the whole
>? ? ?bearing). Left
>? ? ? > hand side bearing gets pushed out of the casting in the process, the
>? ? ? > right one stays in the casting. There's no way IMHO to do this in a
>? ? ? > bearing friendly way without a press, so best to replace (at
>? ? ?least the
>? ? ? > left one) on reassembly if you tap the thing out with a hammer.
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > I've uploaded two relevant reassembly videos. They are not edited -
>? ? ? > sorry - but should give you an idea :)
>? ? ? > Just don't go banging on the stuff as I did, I was young(er) and
>? ? ?stupid
>? ? ? > when I did this... made me cringe when I watched it now :)
>? ? ? > <>
>? ? ?< <>>
>? ? ? > <>
>? ? ?< <>>
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > Regards
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > Vedran
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 2:23?AM roman fox via <http://
>? ? ?> <http://
>? ? ? > <>> <romanfox68=[email protected]
>? ? ?<mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
>? ? ?<mailto:[email protected]>>>
>? ? ? > wrote:
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ?Hi Tim could you send some photo ? Hmm i was look in spare
>? ? ?part list
>? ? ? >? ? ?and is nothing what should hold this shaft in ,similar problem on
>? ? ? >? ? ?bought side when you try take off ? Ok the shaft can go out
>? ? ?only on
>? ? ? >? ? ?leadscrew side at least on left side smallest one can pass
>? ? ?bearing
>? ? ? >? ? ?hole in body ,it is interesting- bearings has not lock
>? ? ?rings , check
>? ? ? >? ? ?up all gears are freely move during you try take off shaft also i
>? ? ? >? ? ?would try move out bearing on quadrand side from inside out
>? ? ?if you
>? ? ? >? ? ?have acces ,time to time also can have shaft on ends smole
>? ? ?mashrum
>? ? ? >? ? ?when you try nock in ,let us know if and what help to take out it
>? ? ? >? ? ?regards Roman
>? ? ? >? ? ?---------- P?vodn¨ª e-mail ----------
>? ? ? >? ? ?Od: Tim D Schomer <rototype@...
>? ? ?<mailto:rototype@...>
>? ? ? >? ? ?<mailto:rototype@...
>? ? ?<mailto:rototype@...>>>
>? ? ? >? ? ?Komu: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>? ? ?<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>? ? ? >? ? ?Datum: 21. 5. 2025 19:49:16
>? ? ? >? ? ?P?edm¨§t: [emcoV10lathe] Norton box Strip/Rebuild
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Ahoj v?ichni,
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Je ?as za?¨ªt pracovat na Blue V10, abych ji mohl p?ipravit k
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?prodeji (pot?ebuji m¨ªsto) a pot?ebuji vym¨§nit vnit?ky
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Nortonov?ch box?.
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Pokud si pamatujete, p?ed p¨¢r lety jsem si po?¨ªdil V10P
>? ? ?ve velmi
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?p¨§kn¨¦m stavu, to byl Imperial. Zat¨ªmco jsem ho ?istil a
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?p?elakoval, vym¨§nil jsem ho za metrick? s pou?it¨ªm ²Ô¨§°ì³Ù±ð°ù?³¦³ó
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?d¨ªl? z modr¨¦ V10. Poda?ilo se mi sehnat metrickou Nortonovou
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?p?evodovku V10p, co? mi to usnadnilo, ale te? mus¨ªm p?estav¨§t
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?V10 na Imperial (proto?e ostatn¨ª d¨ªly v metrick?ch ²õ´Ç³Ü²õ³Ù²¹±¹¨¢³¦³ó
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?nem¨¢m) a bez pomoci n¨¢hradn¨ª Nortonov¨¦ p?evodovky
>? ? ?Imperial V10
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?mus¨ªm vyndat ozuben¨¢ kola z Imperial V10p Norton a
>? ? ?vym¨§nit je za
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?metrickou V10 Norton. (Doufejme, ?e to nakonec p?inese i
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?n¨¢hradn¨ª metrickou p?evodovku V10p, je tu n¨§kdo, kdo by o ni
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?st¨¢l za slu?nou cenu?)
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Zat¨ªm m¨¢m p?evodovku V10 pr¨¢zdnou a u V10p zbyla jen
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?sedmistup¨¾ov¨¢ osa, ale tu prost¨§ nem??u vyndat.
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?M¨¢m oba v¨¢lcov¨¦ ?epy vyta?en¨¦ z h?¨ªdele a kdy? na ni
>? ? ?poklepu z
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?obou konc?, h?¨ªdel se trochu pohybuje, ale po asi 2 mm se to
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?prost¨§ zastav¨ª. Boj¨ªm se, ?e kdy? to ut¨¢hnu p?¨ªli? ²õ¾±±ô²Ô¨§,
>? ? ?³ú±ô´Ç³¾¨ª³¾
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?odlitek.
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?M¨¢te n¨§jak¨¦ n¨¢vrhy, co bych mohl p?ehl¨¦dnout, nebo je to jen
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?p?¨ªpad tlaku/n¨¢razu a p?¨ªpadn¨§ tepla, aby se to dostalo ven?
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Mnohokr¨¢t d¨§kuji
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Tim
>? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?(Hereford, Spojen¨¦ kr¨¢lovstv¨ª)
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
I really like TouchDRO and did this set up on my V10P because I wanted it be as small and out of the way as possible: https://lensprojects.com/2015/09/27/touchdro-machine-position-digital-readout/
Hi Carey beautifull job till end of your videos i was curiouse what it will be and probably 1 min befor end i catch it :)) beautiful flaut , i am heard lathe but not flaut :))?
Thanks for the reply Roman. I thought I would join and make an initial post to confirm everything is hooked up properly, I will post some photos soon. In the meantime, here's a video that shows what I mostly did with the lathe.?
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Thanks again,?
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Carey
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Emco V10P new 1984 from my wife's uncle. I brought it to Florida from Dayton in 2006 and have used it to turn plastic, brass, aluminum and the odd steel part. It all works. I am moving and have decided to sell the lathe. Anyone interested, or interested in more information please let me know.?
I'm up in Greeley. If you're moving to Colorado you might be interested in the "Colorado Society of Model and Experimental Engineers" (CSMEE). We get together once or twice a year to chat about projects we're working on; the group has a pretty wide range of interests. Shawn Leloup (presidentcsmee@...) is the main contact for that group.
Thanks for the thoughts on pricing.? Where are you in Colorado? We are moving to Broomfield!??
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Take care,
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Carey
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Emco V10P new 1984 from my wife's uncle. I brought it to Florida from Dayton in 2006 and have used it to turn plastic, brass, aluminum and the odd steel part. It all works. I am moving and have decided to sell the lathe. Anyone interested, or interested in more information please let me know.?
Thanks Ryan, ?is another way I spend my time.? And thanks for the price points.?
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Carey
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Emco V10P new 1984 from my wife's uncle. I brought it to Florida from Dayton in 2006 and have used it to turn plastic, brass, aluminum and the odd steel part. It all works. I am moving and have decided to sell the lathe. Anyone interested, or interested in more information please let me know.?
I over spent a bit due to a bad mill motor and chuck ! So I decided to use :
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Msure linear mag scales with various displays for the 3 axis I¡¯m looking for ¡
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Msure is a uk company with very cost effective products , They have 3 main types for lathes and mills ,?
1) First one looks like a calliper without jaws and the read out is small and ends up tucked away a bit fir the Z axis of the lathe, This one worked well on my mini proxxon.
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2) Second type has a transverse display great for cross slide as the display oriented correctly.
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3) Type three has a remote display with magnets and features Abs/Inc ¡ This one suits the Z axis of the lathe and comes in up to 600mm travel !
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So all in 3 scales were ?110 delivered!
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limitations :
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Resolution 0.01 mm only (all types)
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fairly bad accuracy over 300mm or so but workable with caliper checks on your part if it¡¯s long¡. Over 100mm it¡¯s pretty good (within 0.01mm) which for most jobs is good enough..
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Displays not in one location but the magnetic remote display type is very flexible..
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No PCD function?
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So if you¡¯re on a tight budget and sneak up on dimensions I think it¡¯s a good solution and the product vs price is exceptional!!
Thanks for the offer Vedran but I don't think it'll help, What I really need is someone with a V10 with that section in bits who can count the teeth for me. Or as a long shot the parts advertised with the number of teeth listed.
I can scrounge up videos of my metric machine but from what I gather that won't really help you. Let me know if you need them. Regards Vedran On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 10:54?PM Tim D Schomer via groups.io < groups.io> <rototype@... <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Many thanks for the help on this so far... Well, I managed to get both gearboxes stripped down, as anticipated I'll need a couple of new bearings when I reassemble the V10p box but I've either got these (6201) or they're on order (6301). I now have another issue that can't be solved by impact. The outpur gear that connects to the leadscrew - apparently there's a Metric and an Imperial variant. Obviously I have the Metric one, however I need an Imperial one (or at least the number of teeth so I can get one made up. The Metric one has 32 teeth but this feels just a fraction too big to fit and get the bolts in the 'bearing block'* I have. (the gearbox output gear might also be different - they have subtly different part numbers). Basically what I need to know is what the numbers of teeth the little gear on the end of the Norton Gearbox output shaft and the 'Leadscrew Drive Gear (English)* have, once I know what these are I can either buy or make replacements. Tim (Hereford, UK) * that's the description in the parts list On 22/05/2025 01:47, Vedran via groups.io <> wrote: > You need to press the shaft out about 20mm as a unit more or less, and > then take the gears off one by one. On my metric machine, the bearing on > the right side (by the big gear) is a slip fit on the shaft, while the > other one is a press fit. It's therefore best to push from right to > left, and apply pressure on the shaft only (not the whole bearing). Left > hand side bearing gets pushed out of the casting in the process, the > right one stays in the casting. There's no way IMHO to do this in a > bearing friendly way without a press, so best to replace (at least the > left one) on reassembly if you tap the thing out with a hammer. > > I've uploaded two relevant reassembly videos. They are not edited - > sorry - but should give you an idea :) > Just don't go banging on the stuff as I did, I was young(er) and stupid > when I did this... made me cringe when I watched it now :) > <> < <>> > <> < <>> > > Regards > > Vedran > > > On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 2:23?AM roman fox via groups.io < groups.io> < > groups.io <>> <romanfox68@... <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> > wrote: > >? ? ?Hi Tim could you send some photo ? Hmm i was look in spare part list >? ? ?and is nothing what should hold this shaft in ,similar problem on >? ? ?bought side when you try take off ? Ok the shaft can go out only on >? ? ?leadscrew side at least on left side smallest one can pass bearing >? ? ?hole in body ,it is interesting- bearings has not lock rings , check >? ? ?up all gears are freely move during you try take off shaft also i >? ? ?would try move out bearing on quadrand side from inside out if you >? ? ?have acces ,time to time also can have shaft on ends smole mashrum >? ? ?when you try nock in ,let us know if and what help to take out it >? ? ?regards Roman >? ? ?---------- P?vodn¨ª e-mail ---------- >? ? ?Od: Tim D Schomer <rototype@... <mailto:rototype@...> >? ? ?<mailto:rototype@... <mailto:rototype@...>>> >? ? ?Komu: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >? ? ?Datum: 21. 5. 2025 19:49:16 >? ? ?P?edm¨§t: [emcoV10lathe] Norton box Strip/Rebuild > >? ? ? ? ?Ahoj v?ichni, >? ? ? ? ?Je ?as za?¨ªt pracovat na Blue V10, abych ji mohl p?ipravit k >? ? ? ? ?prodeji (pot?ebuji m¨ªsto) a pot?ebuji vym¨§nit vnit?ky >? ? ? ? ?Nortonov?ch box?. >? ? ? ? ?Pokud si pamatujete, p?ed p¨¢r lety jsem si po?¨ªdil V10P ve velmi >? ? ? ? ?p¨§kn¨¦m stavu, to byl Imperial. Zat¨ªmco jsem ho ?istil a >? ? ? ? ?p?elakoval, vym¨§nil jsem ho za metrick? s pou?it¨ªm ²Ô¨§°ì³Ù±ð°ù?³¦³ó >? ? ? ? ?d¨ªl? z modr¨¦ V10. Poda?ilo se mi sehnat metrickou Nortonovou >? ? ? ? ?p?evodovku V10p, co? mi to usnadnilo, ale te? mus¨ªm p?estav¨§t >? ? ? ? ?V10 na Imperial (proto?e ostatn¨ª d¨ªly v metrick?ch ²õ´Ç³Ü²õ³Ù²¹±¹¨¢³¦³ó >? ? ? ? ?nem¨¢m) a bez pomoci n¨¢hradn¨ª Nortonov¨¦ p?evodovky Imperial V10 >? ? ? ? ?mus¨ªm vyndat ozuben¨¢ kola z Imperial V10p Norton a vym¨§nit je za >? ? ? ? ?metrickou V10 Norton. (Doufejme, ?e to nakonec p?inese i >? ? ? ? ?n¨¢hradn¨ª metrickou p?evodovku V10p, je tu n¨§kdo, kdo by o ni >? ? ? ? ?st¨¢l za slu?nou cenu?) >? ? ? ? ?Zat¨ªm m¨¢m p?evodovku V10 pr¨¢zdnou a u V10p zbyla jen >? ? ? ? ?sedmistup¨¾ov¨¢ osa, ale tu prost¨§ nem??u vyndat. >? ? ? ? ?M¨¢m oba v¨¢lcov¨¦ ?epy vyta?en¨¦ z h?¨ªdele a kdy? na ni poklepu z >? ? ? ? ?obou konc?, h?¨ªdel se trochu pohybuje, ale po asi 2 mm se to >? ? ? ? ?prost¨§ zastav¨ª. Boj¨ªm se, ?e kdy? to ut¨¢hnu p?¨ªli? ²õ¾±±ô²Ô¨§, ³ú±ô´Ç³¾¨ª³¾ >? ? ? ? ?odlitek. >? ? ? ? ?M¨¢te n¨§jak¨¦ n¨¢vrhy, co bych mohl p?ehl¨¦dnout, nebo je to jen >? ? ? ? ?p?¨ªpad tlaku/n¨¢razu a p?¨ªpadn¨§ tepla, aby se to dostalo ven? >? ? ? ? ?Mnohokr¨¢t d¨§kuji >? ? ? ? ?Tim >? ? ? ? ?(Hereford, Spojen¨¦ kr¨¢lovstv¨ª) > >
To add some data points: I purchased a v10p in November 2024 for ~$2K. Another recently sold in my area (Colorado) for the same amount.?
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When I was looking for a lathe, part of my thought process was "how much it would cost to purchase a new lathe with similar specs?"?
The two other lathes I was looking at in November were the Precision Matthews 10" x 22" (or 10" x 36") and Grizzly 10" x 22" (though they're not exactly equivalent and in many respects I prefer the v10p). Both of those have gone up in price quite a bit in the last couple months and are now ~$4-4.5K once you've paid tax and shipping. Asking more than $2K may be reasonable, especially if it's well equipped and in good condition.
Tim D Schomer
Carey
Joe Thomas