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Yard Lights revisited


 

Lost the battle of yard lights.
Now we have a plethora of dollar store rejects hiding amongst the weeds.
Neighbor was very appreciative of the copper 120vac lights. Beautiful fixtures after stripping, polishing and spraying a lacquer. Looks fantastic, so isn't my handiwork.

Next project needs to be / remain battery powered, naturally selected Headway 38120 LFP cells. 3.2v 8ah (yes, *8aH*) with max rated discharge of 15C (120A). Since I have about 50 of the darn things, gonna use a few of them.

Except can't find a single cell lfp bms / battery disconnect. 2S hard to find as well, unless direct from China Mainland.

Load anticipated around 10w (max, pwm), basically a string of low voltage lighting. Solar panel is 6v-ish, feeds a epoxy-encased charge circuit that in turn charges an INR lithium 3.7v cell 3000mwh capacity, or about 900mAh. I can knock down pv voltage (currently) by shading cells, eventually rewire each half in parallel. PV cell output is (educated guesstimate) 6-ish vdc @ 2w. I do have a dozen or so of the PV panels.

Still leaves me with discharge issue. If cells go under 2.5v, damage occurs. LED string becomes dark around 1.9v and current falls to a few mA. If I put a usual and typical silicon diode in series with cell output to led string, I expect a .7-ish V across diode. Add that to 1.9v string conductance threshold, and have a 2.6V drop, which should halt any appreciable current flow at under 2.5v..

Does this course of reasoning have merit, or shall I remain in the Dark Side?

~SD


wn4isx
 

Try this to eliminate the 0.7V voltage drop...
I have no business relationship with MPJA other than as a satisfied customer.
These devices work as advertised.?
There is a very brief, ?0.1ms? reverse current flow when first powered up backwards.
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There are other ways to achieve zero forward voltage drop diodes but the MPJA is a nice ready to use device.
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Hmm.
I think I need the .7Vfd so that when added to string of lights, my lfp cell won't be discharged past 2.5v. .7Vfd + 1.9Vfd = 2.6v. LFP cell would have to have a greater terminal voltage than 2.6v for current to flow.

Wasteful? Yes. Looking for a single cell bms / cut off for LFP but not successful yet. There are a few, namely variants of the HXYP-1S-4012. That particular board appears to be originally designed for a 3.9v lithium, and now being slung around for both LiPo and LFP. Variants appear to differ on current handling rather than Vcutoff and Vmax.

~SD


wn4isx
 

My experience with lithium batteries is extremely limited to those in our phones and laptops.
I've never tried using them as a build it project.
I have seen a Samsung phone go up in flames, be dosed with water, which made things even more interesting then knocked into a cooler filled with ice/water, which got way to interesting way too fast.
The lithium pulled oxygen from the water, leaving hydrogen which was all too happy to ignite and add to the fun. I think the only thing that 'contained' the fire was the lithium was all consumed and the ice kept things a bit cooler. Of course it did melt a hole in the bottom of the cooler.
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I have some primary lithium cells powered a remote project, solar powered on sunny days, switches to lithium at night, the lithium is protected by a zero loss diode I mentioned.
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I'd be tempted to place a constant current source in each light fixture and power the system with DC or a small PWM power supply in each fixture, again, powering with DC to avoid the complexities of a large PWM power supply.?
PWM and SMPS are tools of the devil. [both produce extreme EMI <radio noise> unless insane mitigation steps are taken. Insane to mean complex and expensive.
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We use self contained solar yard lights, they've been in service? about 3 years, all are working fine. I had to relocate 2 that weren't getting enough direct sunlight.
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I also have motion sensing AC mains powered lights. A friend teased me about being concerned about prowlers, I laughed, "Nope, don't want to break my neck by tripping over the !@#% mole hills in our yard."
[Do ya think I could buy a 500 feet of det cord and feed it into all their tunnels.....]
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