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typing Greek letters or math symbols


wn4isx
 

I normally type in a special font for dyslexics, Dyslexie. I can go to character map and snag Greek letters and other symbols, like those used in math, but it is a royal pain while typing.

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For serious writing, I place {} around the normal ASCII English letter and then I'll go back and replace them after I finish, in TV we called it "We'll fix it in post."

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I find trying to engage number lock and press alt while trying to remember what key to press for what Greek letter I want to be a bit too confusing, of course I could make a cheat sheet, that I'd have to keep track of.


 

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You can use synonyms in the program aText. For example, if I write oohm with a capital first O, the word is replaced with the Ω symbol.

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Sendt: 21. december 2024 20:19
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Emne: [electronics101] typing Greek letters or math symbols

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I normally type in a special font for dyslexics, Dyslexie. I can go to character map and snag Greek letters and other symbols, like those used in math, but it is a royal pain while typing.

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For serious writing, I place {} around the normal ASCII English letter and then I'll go back and replace them after I finish, in TV we called it "We'll fix it in post."

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I find trying to engage number lock and press alt while trying to remember what key to press for what Greek letter I want to be a bit too confusing, of course I could make a cheat sheet, that I'd have to keep track of.


wn4isx
 

I'm sorry but this statement confuses me.
"You can use synonyms in the program aText. For example, if I write oohm with a capital first O, the word is replaced with the Ω symbol."
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I suspect English might not be your first language and some things are difficult to get across.
I've intended to make Microsoft Word, Wordpad and Notepad with all the Greek and math/science characters I routinely use for several years now but I'd never got around to it.
I created the documents last night so now I can open the appropriate document and cut and paste the desired Greek letter or math/science symbol.
I'm still limited and won't be able to properly produce the subscript 2 as in H2O. Subscript means the 2 is offset a half line below the H and O, similarly I won't be able to produce superscripts, the one that comes to mind first is 2 to the 4th power, 22 with the second 2 raised a half line above the first 2. Yes I know the convention is 2^2 but I prefer to go old school when I can.
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My comment about English not being your first language was not meant as an insult, English is a difficult language to master because we've taken words from nearly every language we've interacted with and added them to a prexisting mess/mix of various Celtic languages, Anglo-Saxon (they were distinct languages), then tossed French in for the nobles with a dash of Latin added just for fun in legal and church contexts.
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And, just to keep it interesting, we've thrown logic in the trash heap.
Go going gone [or went], why not Go Going Goed?
Mouse, mice, house houses....
[And yes I know the historical linguistic reasons for such insanity.]
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"“The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse . We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.”
?James D. Nicoll
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Look up "The problem with defending the purity of the English language" to see what is covering up.
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I read Latin and read/speak Spanish, Spanih is vulgar (common) Latin with 800 years of Arabic influence.
Learning Spanish drove me nuts because it was so similar to classical Latin but had all these little? oddities.
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At least Attic Greek is frozen in time and doesn't change.
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If I had the skill and time I'd love to learn French and German. I can fake it in Italian and Romanian and sort of fake it in Portugese, which is extremely similar to the Galacian Spanish dialect.
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[We Americans tend to think of Spanish as a single language, the constitution of Spain says "Castilian is the official Spanish language of the state" and all Spaniards have the duty to know it and the right to use it;?however, other Spanish languages can also be official within their respective autonomous communities as defined by their statutes, recognizing the richness of Spain's linguistic diversity as a cultural heritage to be protected. " Note "other Spanish languages can also be official within their respective autonomous communities" So, are the "other Spanish languages true languages or mere dialects?]
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Does anyone know the difference between a langauge and dialect?
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Max Weinreich, a sociolinguist and Yiddish scholar, is known for saying, “A language is a dialect with an army and navy."
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If you think we have disagreements, you ought to attend a linguistics conference, if words were knives, there'd be a gallons of blood on the floor. Academics make war mongers look like flower children pacifists.
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And you can thank/curse Noah Webster for the primary spelling differences between American English and British English. From the perspective of a dyslexic. cursed by Noah Webster and his name.
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And why is it still flour or four but color and not colour, the lor/lour sure sounds the same to this ex-hillbilly.
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I actually feel sorry for anyone who has to learn English as an adult.? Heck I feel sorry for anyone who has/had to learn English as a child!
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I was born in Appalachia but my parents moved to Lexington when I was 3 months old. From the age of 5 until I was 15 I spent at least a month with my grandparents in Appalachia, it was like visiting a foreign nation, the local language/dialect was so different from flatland English as spoke in Lexington as to be amazing.
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I know we have members from all over the world and try to write as clear and precise as possible [
Go on an laugh I do], but it is extremely difficult not to slip into casual/imprecise English.
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Keep this sheet around if using a standard keyboard.
Key Greek letters and their ALT codes:
  • Alpha (α): Alt + 224
  • Beta (β): Alt + 225
  • Gamma (γ): Alt + 947
  • Delta (δ): Alt + 235
  • Epsilon (ε): Alt + 238
  • Zeta (ζ): Alt + 918
  • Eta (η): Alt + 919
  • Theta (θ): Alt + 233
  • Iota (ι): Alt + 921
  • Kappa (κ): Alt + 922
  • Lambda (λ): Alt + 923
  • Mu (μ): Alt + 924
  • Nu (ν): Alt + 925
  • Xi (ξ): Alt + 926
  • Omicron (ο): Alt + 927
  • Pi (π): Alt + 227
  • Rho (ρ): Alt + 929
  • Sigma (σ): Alt + 931
  • Omega (Ω): Alt + 234?
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Important points to remember:
  • Always use the numeric keypad when entering ALT codes.?
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  • Depending on your system and font, some Greek letters may not appear correctly using ALT codes.
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  • For more complex Greek characters or diacritics, you might need to use a dedicated Greek keyboard layout or character map.?
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wn4isx
 

I tried "Alt+224" with several fonts in Microsoft Word 2003 (I so like to keep up to date) and nothing happened and then in Wordpad (windows 7, yep I'm so up to date it amazes me).

Nothing happened with Alt+244 in either program.

I used the number keypad. I tried several different fonts in case Dyslexie was messing things up.

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I'm using Character Map to produce a "Greek.doc" with all the Greek leters and math symbols I normally use but got distracted because my wife was fighting with our medical practice, they want my wife to watch some videos before her knee replacement. Sort of silly because she watched them back in August for my left knee total knee replacement.

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My computer returned "Operating system not supported."

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So we used her Windows 11 (cross fingers and cringe)

And [I'm sure everyone is shocked] "Operating system not supported."

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I figured a way to download their videos, which they say "Can't be done." I'd tell them to use a more secure video platform but it isn't my problem.

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There are days I hate computers. Many days,

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My sliderule never crashes.

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Oh and I just love trying to do diacritics in any PC software with an English keyboard.

[I have a Spanish keyboard...somewhere. Love the tilde instead of "ny" as in canyon. I also have a Greek keyboard for Attic Greek, which has less resemblance to modern Green then Beowulf has to modern English. <Though I'm hard pressed to accept Beowulf as English.>]

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<And no I can not read Modern Greek period.>

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I'll need to add the normal non English letters I use in correspondence with friends to my Greek.doc.


 

On Sunday 22 December 2024 08:56:35 am wn4isx via groups.io wrote:
I'm still limited and won't be able to properly produce the subscript 2 as in H2O. Subscript means the 2 is offset a half line below the H and O, similarly I won't be able to produce superscripts, the one that comes to mind first is 2 to the 4th power, 22 with the second 2 raised a half line above the first 2. Yes I know the convention is 2^2 but I prefer to go old school when I can.
HTML handles thiis well, though it can mess up line spacing.

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I actually feel sorry for anyone who has to learn English as an adult.? Heck I feel sorry for anyone who has/had to learn English as a child!
Isaac Asimov once wrote as to how English was probably the most difficult language to learn as an adult. Somewhere in one of his many essays...

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Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and
ablest -- form of life in this section of space, ?a critter that can
be killed but can't be tamed. ?--Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters"
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Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James
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I actually feel sorry for anyone who has to learn English as an adult.?
Heck I feel sorry for anyone who has/had to learn English as a child!

Isaac Asimov once wrote as to how English was probably the most difficult
language to learn as an adult. Somewhere in one of his many essays...
English is rather easy to learn sufficiently to be able to get around. It
is very difficult to write and speak correctly.
For example, Swedish has male, female, neuter type1 and neuter type-2.
There are 5 different plural endings.
The definite article is tacked on at the end of the word and varies
depending on the gender and single or plural.
Bertho