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Evaluating a transformer?


Zach Archer
 

Greetings all, I won a small box of assorted electronic components on eBay, which arrived today. I'm still trying to evaluate + test all of them, but I have a question regarding transformers. The box came with many small transformers, 2 different kinds -- the smaller kind has 5 leads (3 on one side, 2 on the other) and the larger ones have 11 leads (6 and 5).

I'm trying to determine the turns ratio of both models. Unfortunately I'm not having any luck... What I'm doing is setting a variable DC power supply to either 6 or 3 volts, and connecting that to 2 wires on one side of the transformer. On the other side I'm attaching a 5-watt, 100-ohm resistor to a couple leads. (The leads are being chosen semi-randomly...)

Then I'm measuring the DC voltage on both sides. The primary side (er, the side with the power supply connected to it... This is another unknown, I'm not sure which side steps the voltage up, and which steps down?..) responds okay, it measures the DC input, minus a few volts.

The other side, however, always registers as dead, I'm not measuring any voltage across the resistor at all.

Any ideas? The small transformer got warm, which at least indicates that it's doing something, but the large one stays cool...

-- Z


Tavys Ashcroft
 

Then I'm measuring the DC voltage on both sides.
Well there's your problem right there. Transformers only work for AC. It's inductive coupling. As the primary's voltage goes up and down, a magnetic field expands and collapses. This magnetic field's velocity induces voltage in the winds of the secondary, giving your your secondary voltage. When it's only DC, the magnetic field is constant, and so there's no change in the magnetic field to create movement in the electrons.


Any ideas? The small transformer got warm, which at least indicates
that it's doing something, but the large one stays cool...
Well, the warmth is created by the resistance of the wire. It's usually pretty thin gauge wire, which has been dipped in varnish and baked to keep winds from shorting. I make large inductors at work similar to this, but they weigh 300 pounds. Sometimes we 'DC Bake' them. The heat from DC current will cook off any wet varnish solvent inside after we bake them in a large oven. Mmmm Xylene eating my brain cells.

So, if you want to evaluate a transformer, you're going to need a sine wave generator. Any AC will do, but a sine wave is a good place to start. Plus, you get to turn the knob and make space sounds. Outer space sounds like someone turning a knob on an oscillator, by the way.

Then you use your multimeter in AC mode and measure primary and secondary voltage.

The one with five wires is probably center tapped, which means you get full secondary voltage across the two outer wires, but half of that from the center wire to either outer one. Center tapped transformers are usually used in non-bridge full wave rectifier circuits for DC power supplies and such.

-Tavys


 

Zach, try AC voltage, Good Luck, Steve

At 05:44 PM 5/18/01 -0700, you wrote:
Greetings all, I won a small box of assorted electronic components on
eBay, which arrived today. I'm still trying to evaluate + test all of
them, but I have a question regarding transformers. The box came with
many small transformers, 2 different kinds -- the smaller kind has 5
leads (3 on one side, 2 on the other) and the larger ones have 11
leads (6 and 5).

I'm trying to determine the turns ratio of both models. Unfortunately
I'm not having any luck... What I'm doing is setting a variable DC
power supply to either 6 or 3 volts, and connecting that to 2 wires
on one side of the transformer. On the other side I'm attaching a
5-watt, 100-ohm resistor to a couple leads. (The leads are being
chosen semi-randomly...)

Then I'm measuring the DC voltage on both sides. The primary side
(er, the side with the power supply connected to it... This is
another unknown, I'm not sure which side steps the voltage up, and
which steps down?..) responds okay, it measures the DC input, minus a
few volts.

The other side, however, always registers as dead, I'm not measuring
any voltage across the resistor at all.

Any ideas? The small transformer got warm, which at least indicates
that it's doing something, but the large one stays cool...

-- Z

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