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All Memebers......

 

I'm glad to see some people joining and using the group. As you can
see, things arn't exactly super busy yet, but spread the word, I'm
sure we can get some discusion going, and thats what it's all about
after all..... Hope to get the Electronics 101 web page up and
running very soon, will have a basic tute on electronics princables
and some link in general to electronics pages of intrest........
Will speak to you all soon I hope.......

The Sinister Dragon.....
(Moderator)


Schematics to Circuit Board?

Thomas Lee Mullins
 

Is there software that can convert schematics to a circuit board
design? I have some schematics that I want to see if I can make
a circuit board from (perhaps to 'recreate' the device that
schematics are of).


Schematic Symbols Book?

Thomas Lee Mullins
 

Is there a book on schematic symbols? I have schematics for a
TI-99/4A and trying to create a circuit board using software from
exprespcb ( [IIRC]).


Re: No metal in MOS?

Budijanto S
 

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Hi Dough Hale,
Do you have any experience to replace vacum tube with power MOSfet...???
Thank you

----- Original Message -----
From: Doug Hale
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 12:54 PM
Subject: [Electronics_101] No metal in MOS?

The context of no metal had to do with fabrication of the transistor,
not interconnecting them.

MOS means metal oxide semiconductor.. the metal oxide forms the
transistor gate. A poly gate transistor
has the metal oxide replaced with poly-silicon. We still cal it a MOS
transistor - either due to tradition - or because PSS is harder to
say(ha ha). (and CPSS? instead of CMOS would even be worse)


Doug Hale


Kevin Vannorsdel wrote:

>For RAM processes?? This is interesting... are you saying you use NO metal
>interconnects in RAM?? Even for power distribution??
>
>Very curious.? KV.
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>hey ,
>
>just to add...now we use polysilicon instead of the? metal...:-)
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>Regards :-),
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>--himanshu sharma
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>From:? Kevin Vannorsdel
>To: Electronics_101@...
>Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 9:54? PM
>Subject: Re: [Electronics_101] Re: Fuses? vs. resistors
>
>I'm new to this group so missed the CMOS topic (which I? would have
>enjoyed)...? CMOS transistors use metal as interconnects? -? mainly
>aluminum.? The latest silicon processes are beginning? to use Copper as
>interconnects.? This is fairly widely publicized so? you may all know
>this.
>
>The CMOS transistor itself is made of standard P? and N type silicon?
>(with
>various doping levels) along with? Poly-Silicon for the gate and a bunch
>of
>silicon dioxide for the gate? dielectric.
>
>Metal is still a very important issue in IC design.?? See my previous
>comments on? electromigration...
>
>KV.
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>
>
>heros,
>
>>or that the length? of a wire has nothing to do with resistence
>>? -? mark
>>
>>>But I do find it surprising that one who likes to? get things stated
>>>
>>correctly does not want a wire to be called a? resistor!!
>>
>
>Since these quotes are all mixed up and shortened I don't? know who said
>what
>and for certain what he said. Here's my parting shot? on the fuze,
>resistor,
>etc. topic.
>I was wrong when I originally? said that a fuze has no resistance, and of
>course the resistance is? required for it to fuze, i.e. blow, when it's
>rated
>current passes? through it.? That something has resistance doesn't make it
>
>a
>resistor. If it did we'd have to call everything that is not an? insulator
>
>a
>resistors, transformers, wires, fuzes, etc. A resistor is? not simply a
>device
>that has resistance but one in which resistance is? utilized as part of
>the
>circuit design, to achieve a voltage drop when? connected in series, to
>bypass
>current in a device when in parallel,? i.e. shunt like the old D'Arsonval
>(SP?) analog meters when used to measure? current. Someone earlier said
>that
>CMOS devices actually no longer use? Metal, I don't know whether that is
>so,
>but we don't stop calling them? CMOS, which may be why I didn't know that
>metal is no longer used in their? manufacture.
>
>Anyway, that's my swan song on the? issue.
>
>Jim
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Re: "manhatten incident"

Curtis Sakima
 

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You're talkin' about the "Philidelphia Experiment" I think.?? A movie was made about it.?? It even has that name for a title.
?
Curtis
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Dazzle Mom this coming Mother's Day season with flowers!
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 9:24 PM
Subject: [Electronics_101] "manhatten incident"

hi?, all
?
i am very much interested in knowing more about the manhatten accident where my one of the friend said that the person can be made invisible and that really occured in that manhatten incident and that invisible guy never came back in the world.
?
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is it ?really that incident occured? if it is then how actually they have done it .looking for the best replies
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Re: Triac instead of relay ?

Curtis Sakima
 

Question: Why is the current waveform sinusodal despite the voltage output
being non-sinusodal?? How are you measuring it?? I would think it'd be
nothing-snap-full-comingdownsinusodal-zero-nothing-snap-full-comingbackupsin
usodal-zero. Just like the voltage.

Curtis

Dazzle Mom this coming Mother's Day season with flowers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Stefan Trethan <stefan_trethan@...>

look at my attachment please.

i also can not believe there is reactive power but how is the phase shift
explained otherwise?

thanks


Re: Triac instead of relay ?

Curtis Sakima
 

Got it.

I'll try modifying future mail so you can see it.

Curtis

Dazzle Mom this coming Mother's Day season with flowers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve <alienrelics@...>

I'm reading online so I can't see either picture, but I think I know what
they look like.

Alien Steve


Re: Triac instead of relay ?

Curtis Sakima
 

I think we could be getting into a semantic war with this thing. So ....
instead of my talking anymore ... please ... everyone open up the *.bmp
attachment of this email. THIS .... is what I saw on the scope output of
the triac dimmer. The arrows indicate what moves as I dim the lamps up and
down. The overall wave doesn't shift ... but that vertical line (indicated
by the arrows) ... shifts left and right.

As the area under the curve varies ... so does the intensity of the lamps.
I thought a picture might settle this.

Curtis

Dazzle Mom this coming Mother's Day season with flowers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve <alienrelics@...>

As you say, the turn on point shifted... but the turn off point does-not-
shift.


Re: SMD's(Thanks All)

Curtis Sakima
 

Much agreed. Those were the days of individual still able to get a lot of
parts (no need to be a shop). Also when Auto emissions were not such a
big deal (hotrod .... DIY Weber Carbs ... headers ... etc.). Yes ...
those were the days of much DIY.

Me too .... 911 ... lost good electronics job.

Curtis


Dazzle Mom this coming Mother's Day season with flowers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Kenneth Smith <kensmith52@...>


Well I graduated in 1966. Took Electronics last 2 years of HS. Lost 2 good
jobs during the mid 80's when all the companies were merging and again 2
jobs after 911 due to business going down. Decided to start my own.

I was very lucky as I was growing up that people would spend time to show me
the things about electronics. I try to pass it on to others that need it and
willing to learn. That is why this forum is good. There are a lot of
knowledgeable people on here so the beginers can learn a lot.


Re: Triac instead of relay ?

Curtis Sakima
 

I used to work fixing stage-n-lighting light dimmers. We used
oscilloscopes triggered by the incoming line AC. The output sine-wave
never shifted left and right as dimming was varied. Just the sharp
vertical line from "zero" where the triac triggered ... went "left and
right".

Curtis

Dazzle Mom this coming Mother's Day season with flowers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve <alienrelics@...>

Since the turn on point is delayed: The voltage and current in a resistive
load are in phase. However, if you look at the voltage coming into the whole
circuit, the current phase is delayed because of the delay between zero
voltage crossing and when the triac turns on and causes the start of current
flow.


Other ideas Was: 555 Filter

Curtis Sakima
 

Anyone thought of using a standard audio power amp with say, +/- 50 supply
rails?? Then a sine wave oscillator could simply be hooked up to drive it.

Another idea would be to use a class-D audio amplifier .... whose output
would be a +50 volt to -50 volt swinging 250 Khz square wave ..... Pulse
Width Modulated at a rate of 16 Hz (sinusodal). Low Pass filter this ....
voila ..............

Curtis

Dazzle Mom this coming Mother's Day season with flowers!

----- Original Message -----
From: genteelu4ia <vortex_9x@...>

ST, I was thinking ( that's where I get in trouble) I needed a sign wave to
properly go through the setpup transformer to increase the voltage to 30v
AC-- I do need AC on the output.

I was thinking that a square wave would only produce a short pulse after
going through the transformer.