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Needs Help Converting Ford 150 to be Electric


 

Hi to All,

I know several of you have experience converting gasoline ICE vehicles to be EVs, so I am sending out this request from a Ford 150 (that gets 16 miles per gallon!) owner. He has a Ford Mustang Mach-e and loves it - and would like to convert the ICE Ford 150 to become an EV.

The ICE pickup truck is located in Los Altos. Would anyone be willing to assist with this conversion? Or at least give directions and advice to its owner?

All best,

Sybil


 

Hi Sybil

I just finished my conversion of a 1953 Studebaker Champion to electric.
Have your friend contact me and we can talk about costs and the problems
I had encountered. I have enclosed some pictures of the project.

George


On Thu, 3 Nov 2022 22:46:27 -0700 "Sybil Cramer via groups.io"
<sybilcramer@...> writes:

Hi to All,

I know several of you have experience converting gasoline ICE
vehicles to be EVs, so I am sending out this request from a Ford 150
(that gets 16 miles per gallon!) owner. He has a Ford Mustang Mach-e
and loves it - and would like to convert the ICE Ford 150 to become
an EV.

The ICE pickup truck is located in Los Altos. Would anyone be
willing to assist with this conversion? Or at least give directions
and advice to its owner?

All best,

Sybil





 

Outstanding job, George - yeah, I know, the blue flames are harder to find!??


On Fri, Nov 4, 2022, 11:48 AM gstuckert1@... <gstuckert1@...> wrote:
Hi Sybil

I just finished my conversion of a 1953 Studebaker Champion to electric.
Have your friend contact me and we can talk about costs and the problems
I had encountered. I have enclosed some pictures of the project.

George


On Thu, 3 Nov 2022 22:46:27 -0700 "Sybil Cramer via "
<sybilcramer=[email protected]> writes:
> Hi to All,
>
> I know several of you have experience converting gasoline ICE
> vehicles to be EVs, so I am sending out this request from a Ford 150
> (that gets 16 miles per gallon!) owner. He has a Ford Mustang Mach-e
> and loves it - and would like to convert the ICE Ford 150 to become
> an EV.
>
> The ICE pickup truck is located in Los Altos. Would anyone be
> willing to assist with this conversion? Or at least give directions
> and advice to its owner?
>
> All best,
>
> Sybil
>
>
>
>
>






 

On Thursday, November 3, 2022, 10:46:27 PM, Sybil groups.io wrote:
Hi to All,
I know several of you have experience converting gasoline ICE
vehicles to be EVs, so I am sending out this request from a Ford 150
(that gets 16 miles per gallon!) owner. He has a Ford Mustang Mach-e
and loves it - and would like to convert the ICE Ford 150 to become an EV.
The ICE pickup truck is located in Los Altos. Would anyone be
willing to assist with this conversion? Or at least give directions and advice to its owner?
All best,
Sybil

Hi Sybil,
EV West is one of many EV conversion shops that may be able to help.
They are in Southern California, and very popular.




Thunderstuck EV also can supply parts. They are in Marin County or
Sonoma, I think.




The folks who refurbished our battery pack can do it. They are in
Salinas:




There are probably dozens if not hundreds of conversion shops in the
U.S.

Lots of the local EV folks have also done their own conversions.

Cheers,

Jeff C.


 

I love looking at George¡¯s work. Always so clean and precise!

On Nov 4, 2022, at 8:47 AM, gstuckert1@... wrote:

Hi Sybil

I just finished my conversion of a 1953 Studebaker Champion to electric.
Have your friend contact me and we can talk about costs and the problems
I had encountered. I have enclosed some pictures of the project.

George


On Thu, 3 Nov 2022 22:46:27 -0700 "Sybil Cramer via groups.io"
<sybilcramer@...> writes:
Hi to All,

I know several of you have experience converting gasoline ICE
vehicles to be EVs, so I am sending out this request from a Ford 150
(that gets 16 miles per gallon!) owner. He has a Ford Mustang Mach-e
and loves it - and would like to convert the ICE Ford 150 to become
an EV.

The ICE pickup truck is located in Los Altos. Would anyone be
willing to assist with this conversion? Or at least give directions
and advice to its owner?

All best,

Sybil








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I converted a car in 2009 using LiFePO4 cells. There were a number of small "garage shop" suppliers at that time and growing, but when commercial evs started being produced demand for conversion parts fell precipitously and many went out of business. EVWest was one of the more expensive ones.? They have continued by doing conversions of peoples' favorite old cars for those with deep pockets.? The cost would be lower, range longer, and build quality much higher if you just buy a Chevy Silverado which is supposed to sell in 2024 (late 2023) for around $37 - 38k for the basic model.? You can't compete with an auto company doing things at scale.? Even a Ford F150 ev might be less expensive than diy.? But if you don't care about that and just want to do it for fun EVWest is one of the few (only?) left that might have a powerful enough inverter and motor, and large enough battery pack (salvaged Tesla pack) to do it. Price for those more powerful components is much higher than for ones used to convert smaller vehicles.? Look into insurance for it first, and price the components to estimate your total cost.


 

Also do some arithmetic..Co D under .23? chassis weight w/o motor under 2500 pounds? cost of batteries to shove that stuff around? Tomofreno is correct. EV West is pricey BUT generous with encouragement and advice.
Father Time[RIP] converted a ford to EV dragster but it sure wasn't a 150..
struggle sharply, choose love.


I don't shop where I can't charge.


On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 09:35:16 AM PDT, tomofreno2000 via groups.io <tomofreno2000@...> wrote:


I converted a car in 2009 using LiFePO4 cells. There were a number of small "garage shop" suppliers at that time and growing, but when commercial evs started being produced demand for conversion parts fell precipitously and many went out of business. EVWest was one of the more expensive ones.? They have continued by doing conversions of peoples' favorite old cars for those with deep pockets.? The cost would be lower, range longer, and build quality much higher if you just buy a Chevy Silverado which is supposed to sell in 2024 (late 2023) for around $37 - 38k for the basic model.? You can't compete with an auto company doing things at scale.? Even a Ford F150 ev might be less expensive than diy.? But if you don't care about that and just want to do it for fun EVWest is one of the few (only?) left that might have a powerful enough inverter and motor, and large enough battery pack (salvaged Tesla pack) to do it. Price for those more powerful components is much higher than for ones used to convert smaller vehicles.? Look into insurance for it first, and price the components to estimate your total cost.


 

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Thanks for the informative message! The owner of the ICE Ford 150 (don¡¯t know the year) currently drives a Ford Mach-e and loves it. His hope is to find a used/involved in a crash Mach-e and use that battery pack and other components to put into the ICE Ford 150.

Good point about pricing insurance for such a conversion. And thanks for the tip about EVWest, in case not all components can be salvaged and / or others needed.

All best,
Sybil

On Nov 5, 2022, at 9:19 AM, tomofreno2000 via <tomofreno2000@...> wrote:

I converted a car in 2009 using LiFePO4 cells. There were a number of small "garage shop" suppliers at that time and growing, but when commercial evs started being produced demand for conversion parts fell precipitously and many went out of business.

EVWest was one of the more expensive ones.? They have continued by doing conversions of peoples' favorite old cars for those with deep pockets.? The cost would be lower, range longer, and build quality much higher

if you just buy a Chevy Silverado which is supposed to sell in 2024 (late 2023) for around $37 - 38k for the basic model.? You can't compete with an auto company doing things at scale.?

Even a Ford F150 ev might be less expensive than diy.? But if you don't care about that and just want to do it for fun EVWest is one of the few (only?) left that might have a powerful enough inverter and motor, and large enough battery pack (salvaged Tesla pack) to do it. Price for those more powerful components is much higher than for ones used to convert smaller vehicles.?

Look into insurance for it first, and price the components to estimate your total cost.


 

Does he know how to make the battery management system (BMS) of the Mach-e work after it is extracted?? Is he knowledgeable about computer control/communications/software so he can figure out how to make things communicate with each other and work once they are out of the car?? Maybe EVWest can help him, if they have experience with a Ford Mach-e.? They do with Tesla battery packs.? He may have to pay them for consulting if he doesn't purchase the parts from them.? There is a lot to figure out to make it work, and ensure it is bullet proof with regard to overcharging since everything is computer controlled, and usually unique to each supplier and proprietary.? If that is his expertise it will be a fun challenge for him. He should also look into what is required to get it licensed.? The acceleration of the F150 will be reduced roughly by the ratio of weight of the two vehicles. Rolling resistance and wind resistance will also be greater so his range will be reduced considerably.? He may not be able to tow much with it due to the inverter/motor size.? The battery pack cooling may not be sufficient for such a sustained load in hot weather.? Lots of considerations...


 

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It was easier for me to buy an F150 Lightning.. ;) ? Tho, I did consider finding an old Ford Ranger EV as a hobby EV a couple of years ago.

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On Nov 6, 2022, at 7:33 AM, tomofreno2000 via <tomofreno2000@...> wrote:

Does he know how to make the battery management system (BMS) of the Mach-e work after it is extracted?? Is he knowledgeable about computer control/communications/software so he can figure out how to make things communicate with each other and work once they are out of the car?? Maybe EVWest can help him, if they have experience with a Ford Mach-e.? They do with Tesla battery packs.? He may have to pay them for consulting if he doesn't purchase the parts from them.? There is a lot to figure out to make it work, and ensure it is bullet proof with regard to overcharging since everything is computer controlled, and usually unique to each supplier and proprietary.? If that is his expertise it will be a fun challenge for him. He should also look into what is required to get it licensed.? The acceleration of the F150 will be reduced roughly by the ratio of weight of the two vehicles. Rolling resistance and wind resistance will also be greater so his range will be reduced considerably.? He may not be able to tow much with it due to the inverter/motor size.? The battery pack cooling may not be sufficient for such a sustained load in hot weather.? Lots of considerations...