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Panniers Tailbox now with Honeycomb Polypropylene Bottom

 




The weight of a wrench and the lock and chain combined with the pounding of potholes kind of bottomed out the left side pannier. I’ve added a reinforcement using 5mm thickness honeycomb polypropylene.?

I do my best to run a materials testing laboratory and report back to other bike manufacturers and custom builders. I learned from my mistakes. Actually the Honeycomb Polypropylene was not available until 2018, so it’s not my fault if I didn’t use it before 2018. ?The 4mm Coroplast is half the weight of the 5mm Honeycomb Polypropylene to be fair. Maybe just the bottom of the panniers needs to be the heavier material. Maybe if I didn’t run 85psi in my tires the Coroplast would last longer, LOL. The potholes on Hillside Avenue wrecked my panniers.
Re: Latest Photos ? Replaced Bike

 

The Fly -11 is great, over 600 miles on the odometer now. Had to swop Tailbox’s, needed the bigger box to haul laundry. Crossed Willliamsburg Bridge into Brooklyn, and Kosciusko Bridge into Queens. Visited the Unisphere on United Nations Avenue in Corona.
Latest Photos ? Replaced Bike

 

The old Lafree is relegated to the corner of my basement, I got a new Fly-11
48v28ah battery?
500 watt rear hub motor?
Salvaged the “M321” fairing from the Lafree, only thing worth saving on the bike.
has three speed settings on the left handlebar, 1 = 19MPH, 2=25MPH, 3=31MPH
Six speed cassette?
I think hub motors have an advantage over mid drive, less wear on the chain.

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Bubble-X Polypropylene Compared to Coroplast

 

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HELLO! Long time no posts.

Interested in Hard Panniers? Is Coroplast too light? Need something heavier without resorting to Acrylic Butadiene??

I went to the plastic dealer looking for 4mm Coroplast, but they didn’t have any. They said $100 minimum order, and they don’t take cash…
Bubble-X Polypropylene Honeycomb is what they sold me!
I got two 48”x96” boards, 5mm thickness?

You need a router to rabbet cut a groove before you can bend it.?


A bit of a weight penalty compared to Coroplast, but if your bike has a motor it won’t be a problem. Or you can make a smaller box.

you don’t need to cut a groove in Coroplast in order to bend it, that’s the key difference.

Honeycomb has the same flexural modulus vertically and horizontally, whereas Coroplast is stronger in one orientation.


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Giant Lafree ? Latest Photos

 


Firstly ?I want you to know, there is a new 开云体育 app, and you too could be a beta tester...
Google it, the link didn’t work. It is not perfect, but outlook has become unfunctional.

So the Lafree has had its motor removed for a while. The suspension fork went bad, the threads stripped. Fortunately it is 1&1/8” , so a thread less headset could be fitted. Unfortunately, 26” suspension forks with Vee brake studs are rare to nonexistent... but that’s okay, I’m too heavy for a suspension fork anyway. Combined with cargo weight, I’m better off with a rigid MTB fork.
So the fairing and pannier/tailbox are wrapped in metallic blue paper, which led to the decision to paint the frame metallic blue as well.?

Roll call would be nice to see who’s still here.
like I said , the new app is why I’m posting.


Frane was degreased in hot water with a half bottle of Mr. Clean. No residue in the tub, it’s okay. Removed the controller and battery box. Also shelved the throttle. Built a new Coroplast box where the battery box was.?



Okay, I’m hitting Send now,
Photovoltaic (PV) Solar Panels?12 Photos

 

Over the past few Covid weeks , I’ve been experimenting with Solar Panels.
It’s not enough to power a motor yet, but I’m thinking maybe 150 watts of panel could be installed on fairings / cargo crates , which would be of use charging the vehicles main battery.

I had to install the panels because my Garmin (automotive) uses 2.1 amps.
But I also use it to recharge my phone, and the new Bluetooth speaker. Plan to charge my camera on longer adventures.
I’m glad I did this just to get some experience. Now that I know how a Charge Controller works, I’m becoming eager to create a solar/human hybrid powered vehicle.
I hope everyone can view the latest photos. I put the warning “12 photos” in the title in case some people are still using dial-up.?
Photovoltaic (PV) Solar Panels?12 Photos

 

Over the past few Covid weeks , I’ve been experimenting with Solar Panels.
It’s not enough to power a motor yet, but I’m thinking maybe 150 watts of panel could be installed on fairings / cargo crates , which would be of use charging the vehicles main battery.

I had to install the panels because my Garmin (automotive) uses 2.1 amps.
But I also use it to recharge my phone, and the new Bluetooth speaker. Plan to charge my camera on longer adventures.
I’m glad I did this just to get some experience. Now that I know how a Charge Controller works, I’m becoming eager to create a solar/human hybrid powered vehicle.
I hope everyone can view the latest photos. I put the warning “12 photos” in the title in case some people are still using dial-up.?
E-bike users, sellers dismayed by B.C. Supreme Court decision

 

E-bike users, sellers dismayed by B.C. Supreme Court decision
Re: Hello, happy new year, test message

 

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Our Brains generate electricity and am waiting for Apple to figure out how to surgically implant a USB so we can charge our cellphones LOL

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of AviationMetalSmith
Sent: February-25-20 8:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [e-motor-assist] Hello, happy new year, test message

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Hi, just want to check in and see what’s up.?

I’ve been having some medical issues, was injected with Tc99 isotope, which means I’m emitting gamma rays at 140,000 electron volts!
Not sure if it will make my bike go faster, but I’ll take a ride later to check...

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Hello, happy new year, test message

 

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Hi, just want to check in and see what’s up.?

I’ve been having some medical issues, was injected with Tc99 isotope, which means I’m emitting gamma rays at 140,000 electron volts!
Not sure if it will make my bike go faster, but I’ll take a ride later to check...

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Auto Makers exit E-Bikes to build E-Cars

 

Article does not translate well from German to English but point is the companies are switching away from building e-Bikes to focus only on building Electric Cars which are a hot market now in Europe. One comment I liked in the interview was referring to e-bikes being in the Kindergarten Phase similar to where Cellphones were in 1995 (as in just as cellphones started to take off till now where everyone has one).
Re: New project

 

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I got a bit more done to the trike.? The motor frame is welded on and motor and drive chain for it fitted.
I had some decent 20x3.0 tires and I changed out the tires that were on those rims for the bigger ones.

The old tires were pretty much sun cracked so I cut the sidewalls off them and used the rest as liners
for the 3" ones.? I had to splice a small section into each liner tire as they were not long enough but? I had another
old tire that supplied the bits needed.? A bit of duck tape to smooth over any edges and I put the 3" tires on the rims.
I used a lot of baby powder in the tires to make sure nothing was sticking with the tube when I pumped them back up.

I need to make an idler pulley setup for the pedal chain now since this trike isn't adjustable.? - I welded the sections together as the back end of the bike frame didn't fit the trike frame very well -




this is what the old tires looked like. They were almost new but sun killed
Re: New project

 

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It showed up? on my end too. I wasn't sure if it was working.? Both emails showed up, the first and the one I slightly edited.? I should have deleted the pictures from the second one I guess to save people a little bandwidth.

On 11/29/2019 6:52 PM, etrikes@... wrote:

Your post appears on my side. It is a bit weird because on the Groups IO it says No New Messages and No Pending Messages even though yours showed up. It is not working like Yahoo. I set the Group up so people can post without my proof reading but that isn’t happening. Am getting to like Facebook more so will likely get the Mirror site up there this weekend. ??

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Lee Bell
Sent: November-29-19 5:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [e-motor-assist] New project

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[Edited Message Follows]

Ok, I'm trying out on here.? I haven't been getting anything from here so I want to see if this goes out in email.

New trike project.? ?This one will get a 500w 24v scooter motor on it.? The pedals with drive the right rear wheel and the motor will drive the left rear wheel.??
It's only a single speed at the moment. I'm not sure if I want more speeds on it yet.

I refused to pay $80 for a new rear axle that it needed and decided to go? instead with a 5/8" zinc plated shaft from home depo for $8 or so. I had to also replace the rear bearings as the original
shaft was a 15mm type.? Since I needed two axles anyway that?worked out just fine as it was three feet long. I just cut it in half and am using one for each rear wheel.
I haven't figured out exactly what I'm going to do for rear brakes yet.? Possibly get some axle adapter and use disk brakes between the frame and rear wheels.
Re: New project

 

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Your post appears on my side. It is a bit weird because on the Groups IO it says No New Messages and No Pending Messages even though yours showed up. It is not working like Yahoo. I set the Group up so people can post without my proof reading but that isn’t happening. Am getting to like Facebook more so will likely get the Mirror site up there this weekend. ??

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Lee Bell
Sent: November-29-19 5:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [e-motor-assist] New project

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[Edited Message Follows]

Ok, I'm trying out on here.? I haven't been getting anything from here so I want to see if this goes out in email.

New trike project.? ?This one will get a 500w 24v scooter motor on it.? The pedals with drive the right rear wheel and the motor will drive the left rear wheel.??
It's only a single speed at the moment. I'm not sure if I want more speeds on it yet.

I refused to pay $80 for a new rear axle that it needed and decided to go? instead with a 5/8" zinc plated shaft from home depo for $8 or so. I had to also replace the rear bearings as the original
shaft was a 15mm type.? Since I needed two axles anyway that?worked out just fine as it was three feet long. I just cut it in half and am using one for each rear wheel.
I haven't figured out exactly what I'm going to do for rear brakes yet.? Possibly get some axle adapter and use disk brakes between the frame and rear wheels.
New project

 
Edited

Ok, I'm trying out on here.? I haven't been getting anything from here so I want to see if this goes out in email.

New trike project.? ?This one will get a 500w 24v scooter motor on it.? The pedals with drive the right rear wheel and the motor will drive the left rear wheel.??
It's only a single speed at the moment. I'm not sure if I want more speeds on it yet.

I refused to pay $80 for a new rear axle that it needed and decided to go? instead with a 5/8" zinc plated shaft from home depo for $8 or so. I had to also replace the rear bearings as the original
shaft was a 15mm type.? Since I needed two axles anyway that?worked out just fine as it was three feet long. I just cut it in half and am using one for each rear wheel.
I haven't figured out exactly what I'm going to do for rear brakes yet.? Possibly get some axle adapter and use disk brakes between the frame and rear wheels.
Re: Did my signup go through?

 

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I was in a rush to get ready for the new tail box.
Tonight’s photo:
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Lee Bell <leebell@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2019 10:04:52 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [e-motor-assist] Did my signup go through?
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Next time you? need batteries try Batterysharks.com.?? Much cheaper than at any store I've seen and I always get good fresh batteries. I've been getting all mine from them for about 15 years now and I have to buy 6-8 12v 32a scooter batteries a year for my various trikes and bikes.
? It normally takes about 3-4 days to get an order from them.

On 11/23/2019 7:37 PM, AviationMetalSmith wrote:
Yes, it is a floor pump and spare tire. It’s so heavy, I could never push it if it had a flat.

Had a fun time today, did my usual 5 mile ride, but the lighting battery was down to 8 volts when I got back, maybe it sat all summer without a fresh up charge. So I went to a hobby store, they told me they don’t carry lead acid anymore, I asked them about the 11.1 volt, 5,000mah li/ions in the display case, there was also a marking “25C”... that turns out to be the capacitor rating, the caps are for motors, but the surge would blow out my LED’s , I was informed.
So I said I intend to stick with lead/acid as I have since 1984. The clerk said try a wheelchair mobility scooter place. So I went about 5 blocks to a surgical supply house ( in my van) and they said I should order it online...
I then went to Lowe’s, which was a longshot. But the clerk who asked “can I help you?” I happened to actually know from somewhere ... he sent me over to Micro Center, where the help was miserable, but the guy at the counter sent me to aisle 8, and I found UPS batteries, which oddly were NOT marked with volts or amp hours, but they were 12v/7ah bricks, with vent caps. I had to pay $44.95 ! $48.87 with tax !
But I need lights on my bikes.
The e-motor-assist is coming, I have to get it going again. This week, as seen in the photo, I swopped rear panniers.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Lee Bell <leebell@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 10:54:27 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [e-motor-assist] Did my signup go through?
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I have to admit it.? That one is different!?? Do you really carry around a full sized air pump and spare tire like that all the time?? There is such a thing as no flat tubes and tires ya know.? I used them in my stuff because I have a bad leg and can't push a bike or trike if I get a flat.

Lee

On 11/22/2019 3:36 PM, AviationMetalSmith wrote:
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Swopped Panniers from one bike to another.
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Re: Did my signup go through?

 

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Next time you? need batteries try Batterysharks.com.?? Much cheaper than at any store I've seen and I always get good fresh batteries. I've been getting all mine from them for about 15 years now and I have to buy 6-8 12v 32a scooter batteries a year for my various trikes and bikes.
? It normally takes about 3-4 days to get an order from them.

On 11/23/2019 7:37 PM, AviationMetalSmith wrote:

Yes, it is a floor pump and spare tire. It’s so heavy, I could never push it if it had a flat.

Had a fun time today, did my usual 5 mile ride, but the lighting battery was down to 8 volts when I got back, maybe it sat all summer without a fresh up charge. So I went to a hobby store, they told me they don’t carry lead acid anymore, I asked them about the 11.1 volt, 5,000mah li/ions in the display case, there was also a marking “25C”... that turns out to be the capacitor rating, the caps are for motors, but the surge would blow out my LED’s , I was informed.
So I said I intend to stick with lead/acid as I have since 1984. The clerk said try a wheelchair mobility scooter place. So I went about 5 blocks to a surgical supply house ( in my van) and they said I should order it online...
I then went to Lowe’s, which was a longshot. But the clerk who asked “can I help you?” I happened to actually know from somewhere ... he sent me over to Micro Center, where the help was miserable, but the guy at the counter sent me to aisle 8, and I found UPS batteries, which oddly were NOT marked with volts or amp hours, but they were 12v/7ah bricks, with vent caps. I had to pay $44.95 ! $48.87 with tax !
But I need lights on my bikes.
The e-motor-assist is coming, I have to get it going again. This week, as seen in the photo, I swopped rear panniers.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Lee Bell <leebell@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 10:54:27 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [e-motor-assist] Did my signup go through?
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I have to admit it.? That one is different!?? Do you really carry around a full sized air pump and spare tire like that all the time?? There is such a thing as no flat tubes and tires ya know.? I used them in my stuff because I have a bad leg and can't push a bike or trike if I get a flat.

Lee

On 11/22/2019 3:36 PM, AviationMetalSmith wrote:
Test?Image-1

Test.
Swopped Panniers from one bike to another.
Test

Get


Re: Did my signup go through?

 

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Yes, it is a floor pump and spare tire. It’s so heavy, I could never push it if it had a flat.

Had a fun time today, did my usual 5 mile ride, but the lighting battery was down to 8 volts when I got back, maybe it sat all summer without a fresh up charge. So I went to a hobby store, they told me they don’t carry lead acid anymore, I asked them about the 11.1 volt, 5,000mah li/ions in the display case, there was also a marking “25C”... that turns out to be the capacitor rating, the caps are for motors, but the surge would blow out my LED’s , I was informed.
So I said I intend to stick with lead/acid as I have since 1984. The clerk said try a wheelchair mobility scooter place. So I went about 5 blocks to a surgical supply house ( in my van) and they said I should order it online...
I then went to Lowe’s, which was a longshot. But the clerk who asked “can I help you?” I happened to actually know from somewhere ... he sent me over to Micro Center, where the help was miserable, but the guy at the counter sent me to aisle 8, and I found UPS batteries, which oddly were NOT marked with volts or amp hours, but they were 12v/7ah bricks, with vent caps. I had to pay $44.95 ! $48.87 with tax !
But I need lights on my bikes.
The e-motor-assist is coming, I have to get it going again. This week, as seen in the photo, I swopped rear panniers.

Get

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Lee Bell <leebell@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 10:54:27 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [e-motor-assist] Did my signup go through?
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I have to admit it.? That one is different!?? Do you really carry around a full sized air pump and spare tire like that all the time?? There is such a thing as no flat tubes and tires ya know.? I used them in my stuff because I have a bad leg and can't push a bike or trike if I get a flat.

Lee

On 11/22/2019 3:36 PM, AviationMetalSmith wrote:
Test?Image-1

Test.
Swopped Panniers from one bike to another.
Test

Get

Re: Did my signup go through?

 

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I have to admit it.? That one is different!?? Do you really carry around a full sized air pump and spare tire like that all the time?? There is such a thing as no flat tubes and tires ya know.? I used them in my stuff because I have a bad leg and can't push a bike or trike if I get a flat.

Lee

On 11/22/2019 3:36 PM, AviationMetalSmith wrote:

Test?Image-1

Test.
Swopped Panniers from one bike to another.
Test

Get

Facebook

 

I have not yet put this Group on Facebook but will soon.

I did however create another Facebook Group called E-Trike Riders so if you have a Bent or Old Geezer Upright or a Velomobile and it is battery powered then consider joining.
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