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Problems trying configure my location for iGate..

 

Morning from a cold, wet and windy Scotland....

I've built an iGate with Pi3+ and and Icom RX but I can't get my location on show on aprs.fi properly...
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I've tried Lat/ Long and UTM.
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My Pbeacon statement is:
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PBEACON sendto=igate every=30 overlay=R symbol="igate" lat=42^55.94539 long=071^3.39273E via=WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1
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This locates me in Eastern Europe near Tapaz.....
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My lat/long is 55.945526, -3.392573
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What am I doing wrong?? (what do the 42^ and 071^ mean/do???)
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Bob
 

On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 at 12:14, rover.bob123 via groups.io
<rover.bob123@...> wrote:
I've built an iGate with Pi3+ and and Icom RX but I can't get my location on show on aprs.fi properly...
My Pbeacon statement is:
PBEACON sendto=igate every=30 overlay=R symbol="igate" lat=42^55.94539 long=071^3.39273E via=WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1
This locates me in Eastern Europe near Tapaz.....
What am I doing wrong?? (what do the 42^ and 071^ mean/do???)
They are the degrees of your location, so you are saying that you are
located at 42 degrees and about 56 minutes north.Which just happens to
be the latitude of Taraz in Kazakhstan...

Nigel Worsley
M0ZFJ
 

Morning Nigel,
Thanks for the reply.... but I'm still not gellint the requied location....
I changed the PBeacon statement to:

PBEACON sendto=igate every=30 overlay=R symbol="igate" lat=55^94 long=3^39E via=WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1

And this puts me just north of New York in the good old US of A.....

What am I doing wrong as I cant find any documentation explaining how to structure the locations string????

Thanks again

Bob Webster
GM70BI

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On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 at 15:19, Nigel Worsley via <niglew=[email protected]> wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 at 12:14, rover.bob123 via
<rover.bob123=[email protected]> wrote:
> I've built an iGate with Pi3+ and and Icom RX but I can't get my location on show on properly...
> My Pbeacon statement is:
> PBEACON sendto=igate every=30 overlay=R symbol="igate" lat=42^55.94539 long=071^3.39273E via=WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1
> This locates me in Eastern Europe near Tapaz.....
> What am I doing wrong?? (what do the 42^ and 071^ mean/do???)

They are the degrees of your location, so you are saying that you are
located at 42 degrees and about 56 minutes north.Which just happens to
be the latitude of Taraz in Kazakhstan...

Nigel Worsley
M0ZFJ
 

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Hi Bob

It's on P111 of the Direwolf User Guide and will accept decimal notation as well as your example's. Your example though is in the degree/minute.mmm format but 94 (minutes) exceeds the max of 60. There is also no "N" specifier.

I don't think any via argument is needed for an igate beacon either. The manual also specifies sendto=IG.

I think the line might be;

PBEACON sendto=IG every=30 overlay=R symbol="igate" lat=55.945526 long=-3.392573
or
PBEACON sendto=IG every=30 overlay=R symbol="igate" lat=55^56.73156N long=3^23.55438E


Cheers Bob VK2YQA


On 26/1/25 20:58, Bob via groups.io wrote:

Morning Nigel,
Thanks for the reply.... but I'm still not gellint the requied location....
I changed the PBeacon statement to:

PBEACON sendto=igate every=30 overlay=R symbol="igate" lat=55^94 long=3^39E via=WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1

And this puts me just north of New York in the good old US of A.....

What am I doing wrong as I cant find any documentation explaining how to structure the locations string????

Thanks again

Bob Webster
GM70BI

 

Morning All,

OK, with pointers fron Nigel, and some reading between the lines I've managed to get my feet dry and with 1/2 mile of home.....

The problem I was having was that, as Nigel pointed out, the first 2 digits of the lat/longs are your degrees but the second group was actually "Decimal Minutes and Seconds" NOT? decimal degrees...

If you are having problems converting these about, I used to do the conversions and my PBEACON statement now looks like this:

PBEACON sendto=igate every=30 overlay=R symbol="igate" lat=55^56.44 long=3^23.39W via=WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1
(I also got my Eastings/Westings mixed up... DUH)

Thanks for all the help.

Bob


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On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 at 09:58, Bob via <rover.bob123=[email protected]> wrote:
Morning Nigel,
Thanks for the reply.... but I'm still not gellint the requied location....
I changed the PBeacon statement to:

PBEACON sendto=igate every=30 overlay=R symbol="igate" lat=55^94 long=3^39E via=WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1

And this puts me just north of New York in the good old US of A.....

What am I doing wrong as I cant find any documentation explaining how to structure the locations string????

Thanks again

Bob Webster
GM70BI

Virus-free.

On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 at 15:19, Nigel Worsley via <niglew=[email protected]> wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 at 12:14, rover.bob123 via
<rover.bob123=[email protected]> wrote:
> I've built an iGate with Pi3+ and and Icom RX but I can't get my location on show on properly...
> My Pbeacon statement is:
> PBEACON sendto=igate every=30 overlay=R symbol="igate" lat=42^55.94539 long=071^3.39273E via=WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1
> This locates me in Eastern Europe near Tapaz.....
> What am I doing wrong?? (what do the 42^ and 071^ mean/do???)

They are the degrees of your location, so you are saying that you are
located at 42 degrees and about 56 minutes north.Which just happens to
be the latitude of Taraz in Kazakhstan...

Nigel Worsley
M0ZFJ
 

Morning Bob,

Thanks for this, I'd looked at the manual but the index only went to p107 (I was looking at it? on GITHUB) so hadnt seent that page...

I did manage to get it working with a bit of conversion I'm now shoring within 1/2 mile of home...

Thanks for the reply.

Bob
GM7OBI

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On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 at 11:07, Bob Cameron via <bob3bob3=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Bob

It's on P111 of the Direwolf User Guide and will accept decimal notation as well as your example's. Your example though is in the degree/minute.mmm format but 94 (minutes) exceeds the max of 60. There is also no "N" specifier.

I don't think any via argument is needed for an igate beacon either. The manual also specifies sendto=IG.

I think the line might be;

PBEACON sendto=IG every=30 overlay=R symbol="igate" lat=55.945526 long=-3.392573
or
PBEACON sendto=IG every=30 overlay=R symbol="igate" lat=55^56.73156N long=3^23.55438E


Cheers Bob VK2YQA


On 26/1/25 20:58, Bob via wrote:
Morning Nigel,
Thanks for the reply.... but I'm still not gellint the requied location....
I changed the PBeacon statement to:

PBEACON sendto=igate every=30 overlay=R symbol="igate" lat=55^94 long=3^39E via=WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1

And this puts me just north of New York in the good old US of A.....

What am I doing wrong as I cant find any documentation explaining how to structure the locations string????

Thanks again

Bob Webster
GM70BI

 

You still don't have the figures correct.? The numbers NEVER use seconds.
For LAT it is DD^MM.mmmN?
??????? where D-degrees, M-Minutes, m-decimal minutes (not seconds), and requires direction letter (not sign)
????? LON it is DDD^MM.mmmE?
??????? where D-degrees, M-Minutes, m-decimal minutes (not seconds), and requires direction letter (not sign)
Many APRS application requiring a leading zero for Degrees and some for Seconds because they text.
Since Direwolf formats the provided information as it generates the packet, it may not require those leading zeros.

Option 2
?? Lat +DD.ddddd where + is the direction sign, D-Degrees, and d-decimal degrees (no '^')

So, if (as you stated) your last portions are 44 and 39 seconds, I suggest you try:
?? PBEACON sendto=igate every=30 overlay=R symbol="igate" LAT=55^56.73N LONG=003^23.65W

To experiment with the format, you could also try
?? PBEACON sendto=igate every=30 overlay=R symbol="igate" LAT=55.9455 LONG=-3.3941

Although not putting the direction may work in some places, there will be times the packet just gets rejected.?

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Sunday, January 26, 2025 at 06:24:58 AM EST, Bob via groups.io <rover.bob123@...> wrote:


Morning All,

OK, with pointers fron Nigel, and some reading between the lines I've managed to get my feet dry and with 1/2 mile of home.....

The problem I was having was that, as Nigel pointed out, the first 2 digits of the lat/longs are your degrees but the second group was actually "Decimal Minutes and Seconds" NOT? decimal degrees...

If you are having problems converting these about, I used to do the conversions and my PBEACON statement now looks like this:

PBEACON sendto=igate every=30 overlay=R symbol="igate" lat=55^56.44 long=3^23.39W via=WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1
(I also got my Eastings/Westings mixed up... DUH)

Thanks for all the help.

Bob


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On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 at 09:58, Bob via <rover.bob123=[email protected]> wrote:
Morning Nigel,
Thanks for the reply.... but I'm still not gellint the requied location....
I changed the PBeacon statement to:

PBEACON sendto=igate every=30 overlay=R symbol="igate" lat=55^94 long=3^39E via=WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1

And this puts me just north of New York in the good old US of A.....

What am I doing wrong as I cant find any documentation explaining how to structure the locations string????

Thanks again

Bob Webster
GM70BI

Virus-free.

On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 at 15:19, Nigel Worsley via <niglew=[email protected]> wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 at 12:14, rover.bob123 via
<rover.bob123=[email protected]> wrote:
> I've built an iGate with Pi3+ and and Icom RX but I can't get my location on show on properly...
> My Pbeacon statement is:
> PBEACON sendto=igate every=30 overlay=R symbol="igate" lat=42^55.94539 long=071^3.39273E via=WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1
> This locates me in Eastern Europe near Tapaz.....
> What am I doing wrong?? (what do the 42^ and 071^ mean/do???)

They are the degrees of your location, so you are saying that you are
located at 42 degrees and about 56 minutes north.Which just happens to
be the latitude of Taraz in Kazakhstan...

Nigel Worsley
M0ZFJ

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