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rPi 4 / Signalink USB / Yaesu ft-895 / Direwolf.


Nick
 

Hello. I've gotten Direwolf installed, and it's hearing packet traffic. Printing it out into the REPL or wahtever the terminal window is....but I can't seem to transmit.

When I used to use a Kantronics TNC I'd see a prompt once I opened my terminal (via serial) and I'd be able to type commands like?


?c eocmb? (for Connect to EOCMB - our Emergenchy operations command mailbox which is within LOS of my QTH.)

But now I just see traffic in. Can anyone suggest a good packet terminal program for Raspberry pi, or else somethign I can run on a mac that's on the same lan via TCP/8001? I'm struggling!

?

thanks

Nick
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Hello,

I use EasyTerm, but it’s Win and I run Win under VMWare on my MacBook Pro.?


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On Oct 4, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Nick <nick.strada@...> wrote:

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Hello. I've gotten Direwolf installed, and it's hearing packet traffic. Printing it out into the REPL or wahtever the terminal window is....but I can't seem to transmit.

When I used to use a Kantronics TNC I'd see a prompt once I opened my terminal (via serial) and I'd be able to type commands like?


?c eocmb? (for Connect to EOCMB - our Emergenchy operations command mailbox which is within LOS of my QTH.)

But now I just see traffic in. Can anyone suggest a good packet terminal program for Raspberry pi, or else somethign I can run on a mac that's on the same lan via TCP/8001? I'm struggling!

?

thanks

Nick
K6LJUY


 

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BTW: ?How is the Kantronics KPC-3+? ? Been playing with Idea of getting one to have a hardware TNC to run a BBS. ?I have a MoblinkD TNC3, two SignaLink USB’s, and RPi’s, but still been eyeing getting a KPC-3+. ?They still worthwhile?

Thanks?

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On Oct 4, 2021, at 1:17 PM, J K via groups.io <kuhnje@...> wrote:

?Hello,

I use EasyTerm, but it’s Win and I run Win under VMWare on my MacBook Pro.?


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On Oct 4, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Nick <nick.strada@...> wrote:

?

Hello. I've gotten Direwolf installed, and it's hearing packet traffic. Printing it out into the REPL or wahtever the terminal window is....but I can't seem to transmit.

When I used to use a Kantronics TNC I'd see a prompt once I opened my terminal (via serial) and I'd be able to type commands like?


?c eocmb? (for Connect to EOCMB - our Emergenchy operations command mailbox which is within LOS of my QTH.)

But now I just see traffic in. Can anyone suggest a good packet terminal program for Raspberry pi, or else somethign I can run on a mac that's on the same lan via TCP/8001? I'm struggling!

?

thanks

Nick
K6LJUY


 

I have used AGWTermTCP and connect to Dire Wolf through an AGW port for testing.
It seems to have the features you are looking for.

Also, having AGWMonitor running is helpful can be helpful when troubleshooting as well.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Monday, October 4, 2021, 01:17:52 PM EDT, J K via groups.io <kuhnje@...> wrote:


Hello,

I use EasyTerm, but it’s Win and I run Win under VMWare on my MacBook Pro.?


11 Max Pro

On Oct 4, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Nick <nick.strada@...> wrote:

?

Hello. I've gotten Direwolf installed, and it's hearing packet traffic. Printing it out into the REPL or wahtever the terminal window is....but I can't seem to transmit.

When I used to use a Kantronics TNC I'd see a prompt once I opened my terminal (via serial) and I'd be able to type commands like?


?c eocmb? (for Connect to EOCMB - our Emergenchy operations command mailbox which is within LOS of my QTH.)

But now I just see traffic in. Can anyone suggest a good packet terminal program for Raspberry pi, or else somethign I can run on a mac that's on the same lan via TCP/8001? I'm struggling!

?

thanks

Nick
K6LJUY


 

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Hello Nick

Hello. I've gotten Direwolf installed, and it's hearing packet traffic. Printing it out into the REPL or wahtever the terminal window is....but I can't seem to transmit.

When I used to use a Kantronics TNC I'd see a prompt once I opened my terminal (via serial) and I'd be able to type commands like?


?c eocmb? (for Connect to EOCMB - our Emergenchy operations command mailbox which is within LOS of my QTH.)

But now I just see traffic in. Can anyone suggest a good packet terminal program for Raspberry pi, or else somethign I can run on a mac that's on the same lan via TCP/8001? I'm struggling!


Direwolf is a TNC intended to provide lower level set of tools for APRS but it also offers extensive connectivity to OTHER TOOLS using KISS, TCP-KISS, AGW, etc. to support things like terminal programs to make packet connections, run services like NODES, and BBSes, etc.? For terminal services, there are several native Linux offerings:

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?? ? ? Linpac???? - Nice Linux NCURSES-based packet terminal and simple BBS software using the Linux AX.25 stack
????????????????

????? QtTermTCP? - A graphical Qt-based packet terminal program that can use either AGW or BPQ-TCP
?????????????????? based connections.? Should work well with Direwolf
??????????????????

????? EasyTerm?? - A Windows graphical packet terminal and mailbox program that uses AGW (runs fine under WINE)
????????????????

????? agwterm??? - Windows terminal packet program via AGW (runs under WINE)
????????????????
?????????
????? IpSerial?? - Included with Outpost Package manager for Windows (runs under WINE)
?????????????????? which have been reported
???????????????

????? LinKT????? - LinKT is a KDE Packet Radio (AX25) Terminal with the Linux AX.25 terminal - no longer maintained
???????????????

????? OpenBCM?? - Packet radio terminal and light weight messaging with a web interface
????????????????

????? Uronode??? * Linux Packet node software using the Linux AX.25 stack
??????????????? Was on sf.net - but packages are available for Debian-based distros

????? BPQ32????? * packet Bulletin board system and a lot more with it's own AX.25 stack or using the Linux AX.25 stack
???????????????

????? Jnos?????? * packet Bulletin board system with it's own AX.25 stack or using the Linux AX.25 stack
???????????????

????? FBB??????? - packet Bulletin board system using the Linux AX.25 stack
?? ??????????????

????? LinGT????? - GNOME2 port of LinKT. LinKT is a KDE Packet Radio (AX25) Terminal with the Linux AX.25 terminal
???????????????
????? TnT??????? - WA8DED Hostmode or KISS TNC packet terminal program for Linux
????????????????

????? Dpbox????? - BBS for Linux - no longer supported
????????????????

????? xconvers?? - IRC like client using the Internet or packet radio
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Hello Max,

KPC3+ TNCs are probably one of the best hardware TNCs out there but Direwolf has better packet decodes than it.? They are pretty good for a "set it up and forget it deployment" but their functionality for a PBBS is pretty low, they haven't received any real fixes or improvements in a decade or more though there are known bugs with them, etc.

I suppose they are a good choice for some but a Direwolf setup + some other software will always blow it away.

Ps.? If you're just pining for a classic TNC2 like interface, you can run BPQ32 with it's TNC2 emulator + Direwolf to effectively get you the same experience.

--David
KI6ZHD



On 10/04/2021 10:23 AM, J K via groups.io wrote:

BTW: ?How is the Kantronics KPC-3+? ? Been playing with Idea of getting one to have a hardware TNC to run a BBS. ?I have a MoblinkD TNC3, two SignaLink USB’s, and RPi’s, but still been eyeing getting a KPC-3+. ?They still worthwhile?

Thanks?

11 Max Pro

On Oct 4, 2021, at 1:17 PM, J K via groups.io <kuhnje@...> wrote:

? Hello,

I use EasyTerm, but it’s Win and I run Win under VMWare on my MacBook Pro.?


11 Max Pro

On Oct 4, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Nick <nick.strada@...> wrote:

?

Hello. I've gotten Direwolf installed, and it's hearing packet traffic. Printing it out into the REPL or wahtever the terminal window is....but I can't seem to transmit.

When I used to use a Kantronics TNC I'd see a prompt once I opened my terminal (via serial) and I'd be able to type commands like?


?c eocmb? (for Connect to EOCMB - our Emergenchy operations command mailbox which is within LOS of my QTH.)

But now I just see traffic in. Can anyone suggest a good packet terminal program for Raspberry pi, or else somethign I can run on a mac that's on the same lan via TCP/8001? I'm struggling!

?

thanks

Nick
K6LJUY



Nick
 

Thanks all.?

I have a KPC3+ in the garage.?

But as you suspect ,I'm hoping to use Direworlf/Raspberry pi as a low level TNC, and then access it over the local area network via port 8000 or 8001.


I've tried linpac on the pi, but it doesn't seem to set up properly. I need to know a full heirarchical addresss for my QTH which I can't seem to find.

The rest of my computers are Macs. All the TNC/AGM clients seem to be for Windows.?

Does anyone have any ideas?


 

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Hello Nick,

I have a KPC3+ in the garage.?

But as you suspect ,I'm hoping to use Direworlf/Raspberry pi as a low level TNC, and then access it over the local area network via port 8000 or 8001.


You can definitely access Direwolf via port 8000 and 8001 for AX.25 services but a KPC3 cannot do this alone.? There are ways to integrate a KPC3+ with Linux and add on AGW support with the ldsped program but it's still going to be less-optimal.


I've tried linpac on the pi, but it doesn't seem to set up properly. I need to know a full heirarchical addresss for my QTH which I can't seem to find.


I can help you with Linpac since I'm the maintainer but you can technically put anything there as long as it "looks right".


The rest of my computers are Macs. All the TNC/AGM clients seem to be for Windows.


Ok.. and don't forget that Direwolf natively runs on Mac as well.


Does anyone have any ideas?


WINE also runs on the Mac too.

--David


Nick
 

Thanks David.
Are you by chance on Discord??
I'd love to chat about options.
I'm not trying to get the KPC back into the stack.
I just want the rPI to run direwolf and then find a good client that I can hit from on the LAN.

My primary use case is to use commands like?

C EOCND?- to hop from node to node in our Marin Country packet network, and open corresponding MBs (mailboxes - these are usually hosted on old school TNCs)

I also want to be able to access the Digipeater on ISS. I can see the traffic when it goes overhead, but no way to upload.

I'm going to be on this google Meet video chat for ten minutes in case you care to help out "in person"



On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 1:35 PM David Ranch <direwolf-groupsio@...> wrote:

Hello Nick,

I have a KPC3+ in the garage.?

But as you suspect ,I'm hoping to use Direworlf/Raspberry pi as a low level TNC, and then access it over the local area network via port 8000 or 8001.


You can definitely access Direwolf via port 8000 and 8001 for AX.25 services but a KPC3 cannot do this alone.? There are ways to integrate a KPC3+ with Linux and add on AGW support with the ldsped program but it's still going to be less-optimal.


I've tried linpac on the pi, but it doesn't seem to set up properly. I need to know a full heirarchical addresss for my QTH which I can't seem to find.


I can help you with Linpac since I'm the maintainer but you can technically put anything there as long as it "looks right".


The rest of my computers are Macs. All the TNC/AGM clients seem to be for Windows.


Ok.. and don't forget that Direwolf natively runs on Mac as well.


Does anyone have any ideas?


WINE also runs on the Mac too.

--David


 

Hello,

Thanks for the info on the Kantronics KPC-3+. From what a gather, they are older, don’t decode as well as current software modems even, but are oldies, buy goodies with mailbox features built-in. Wanted to try one out for a while, so probably will pick one up. When I get my board up and running, planning to use the KPC-3+ for it. Already have a bit of stuff though: two SignalLinks with cables for Yaesu 8900R, Alinco DR-235, Anytone AT-779UV, TYT 9800, Kenwood K2-2pin HT’s (such as Baofeng, TYT). Also have a MoblinkD TNC3 (with cables also fir everything above). Then of course a RPi’s running DireWolf and a few EasyDigi’s. Two with USB control, one just VOX. OCD probably, but like checking everything out. Wants to get a Kantronics KPac-3+ for quite a while. :-)

Sent from my iPhone 11 Max Pro


 

The KPC-3+ and KPC-3 each use chips designed for 'wired' data transfer at 1200 baud.
You have to believe these chips were design with a lot better Signal to Noise Ratio that is common in radio.
Also, they are quite old.? A lot of Digital Signal Processing algorithms have been developed since those days.

FWIW, the TNC-X from Coastal ChipWorks (now MFJ-1270X) still uses the MX614 chip.?
I have one of the earliest ones and newer one.? Neither decode as well as a properly configured TT4 or better yet are any software modem - especially Direwolf!

Just my opinion, but I am guessing you will find the same.
This past week, I thought my TNC-X had failed.? It didn't seem to be decoding any signals.? So I ran the TNC-X and a Pi with Direwolf (Fe-Pi sound card) using a 6-pin miniDIN tee to feed the audio signal to both (disconnected PTT and TX on one).? Direwolf decoded more signals (estimate of about 20%).? I would imagine the 20% were the weaker signals.

In the end, it turned out the local DIGI was down, so most signals just weren't making it to my antenna.? Once the DIGI came back, my decodes where normal again.? In the end, the TNC-X works fine, but the sound card and Direwolf definitely worked better.?


Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


On Thursday, October 7, 2021, 06:52:59 AM EDT, J K via groups.io <kuhnje@...> wrote:


Hello,

Thanks for the info on the Kantronics KPC-3+.? From what a gather, they are older, don’t decode as well as current software modems even, but are oldies, buy goodies with mailbox features built-in.? Wanted to try one out for a while, so probably will pick one up.? When I get my board up and running, planning to use the KPC-3+ for it.? Already have a bit of stuff though: two SignalLinks with cables for Yaesu 8900R, Alinco DR-235, Anytone AT-779UV, TYT 9800, Kenwood K2-2pin HT’s (such as Baofeng, TYT).? Also have a MoblinkD TNC3 (with cables also fir everything above).? Then of course a RPi’s running DireWolf and a few EasyDigi’s.? Two with USB control, one just VOX.? OCD probably, but like checking everything out.? Wants to get a Kantronics KPac-3+ for quite a while. :-)

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