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Re: Direwolf web dashboard

 

Variation on a theme, I decided my first foray into trying to write a script should be Direwolf related - apart from some C++ at university and Excel macros I've not coded anything.

I installed Alfredo's dashboard, which has proved to be very useful in showing the difference between what DW is RX and what gets through to aprs.fi.? Big thanks Alfredo for that.? It rather gave me inspiration to look at scripting.
When prop is good and e's are active, I see a lot of stations plus 100 miles. The intention in writing the script was to use the Direwolf log to alert to the possibility of DX on 2 metres rather than having to look at the dashboard.

I set the script to run every 5 minutes in a CRON job.? It reads the DW log into an array, calculates the distance to the source station and appends that to each row.? Then filters by distance (set-able in the script).? If the filter result is zero, quits, otherwise puts the output into an email and sends.? There is a small sub-routine to check when the last email was sent to prevent sending every 5 minutes (also set-able in the script) .? I set that to only send every 30 minutes.

It's not the most elegant of Python scripts, but it works for what I want it to do.

Code is here


There are two scripts in the repository - dxrx is the one to check and send mail according to distance.? ?Fulllog gets the log file, calculates and appends distance to source and sends email - I use that one once a day just for info.

73
Craig MM0NBW


Re: Direwolf web dashboard

 

And disregard my disregard. After loading 2.0.0 Alpha, I get the same result.


Re: Direwolf web dashboard

 

Disregard. I realized I installed version 1.0.1 and not 2.0.0 alpha.


Re: Direwolf web dashboard

 

Tim,

I followed your instructions and when I try to view my igate on port 8080 in a browser, it gives my a "connection closed" message. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Paul KK7BIZ


Re: Raspberry Pi Zero2w Direwolf not Digipeating

 

David,

I've reviewed the user guide regarding digipeating. I see where my digipeater may not repeat packets as a stronger digipeater may win out. However, I have my HT set at low power and when it beacons the beacon is not being shown in the Direwolf monitor screen. I changed the digipeater settings in Direwolf as you suggested. I've also started Direwolf with debugging. I looked through the documentation and the Github site for a buide on how to decpher the debugging code. Here is a screen dump of my Digipeater from moments ago:

login as: pi
pi@digipeater's password:
Linux digipeater 5.15.84-v7+ #1613 SMP Thu Jan 5 11:59:48 GMT 2023 armv7l
?
The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software;
the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.
?
Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
permitted by applicable law.
Last login: Sun Mar 19 21:09:54 2023 from fe80::8cf5:61db:bf48:1eca%wlan0
pi@digipeater:~ $ direwolf -doifff
Dire Wolf version 1.6
Includes optional support for:? gpsd cm108-ptt
?
Reading config file direwolf.conf
Audio device for both receive and transmit: plughw:1,0? (channel 0)
Channel 0: 1200 baud, AFSK 1200 & 2200 Hz, E+, 44100 sample rate / 3.
PTT 0 = 0
Ready to accept AGW client application 0 on port 8000 ...
Ready to accept KISS TCP client application 0 on port 8001 ...
GPSD: Location fix is now 3D.
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
PTT 0 = 1
[0L] N7PN-1>APDW16,WIDE1-1:!3335.90N/11212.94W#360/000Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
DCD 0 = 1
?
N7PN-1 audio level = 9(9/6)? ?[NONE]? ?|||||____
[0.2] N7PN-1>APDW16,WIDE1-1:!3335.90N/11212.94W#360/000Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
Position, DIGI (white center), DireWolf, WB2OSZ
N 33 35.9000, W 112 12.9400, 0 MPH, course 360
Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
PTT 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
PTT 0 = 1
[0L] N7PN-1>APDW16,WIDE1-1:!3335.90N/11212.94W#360/000Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
DCD 0 = 1
?
N7PN-1 audio level = 8(8/5)? ?[NONE]? ?|||||____
[0.2] N7PN-1>APDW16,WIDE1-1:!3335.90N/11212.94W#360/000Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
Position, DIGI (white center), DireWolf, WB2OSZ
N 33 35.9000, W 112 12.9400, 0 MPH, course 360
Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
PTT 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
?
Digipeater W7MOT-3 audio level = 106(44/29)? ?[NONE]? ?___|||___
[0.4] N7UV-14>APMI03,W7MOT-3*,WIDE2-1::N7UV-14? :BITS.11111111,ARSTRA TLM de N7UV
Telemetry Bit Sense/Project Name Message for "N7UV-14", truck, SQ3PLX http://microsat.com.pl/
DCD 0 = 0
PTT 0 = 1
[0H] N7UV-14>APMI03,W7MOT-3,N7PN-1*::N7UV-14? :BITS.11111111,ARSTRA TLM de N7UV
DCD 0 = 1
PTT 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
PTT 0 = 1
[0L] N7PN-1>APDW16,WIDE1-1:!3335.90N/11212.94W#360/000Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
DCD 0 = 1
?
N7PN-1 audio level = 9(13/7)? ?[NONE]? ?||||||___
[0.2] N7PN-1>APDW16,WIDE1-1:!3335.90N/11212.94W#360/000Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
Position, DIGI (white center), DireWolf, WB2OSZ
N 33 35.9000, W 112 12.9400, 0 MPH, course 360
Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
PTT 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
?
Digipeater W7MOT-3 audio level = 99(43/32)? ?[NONE]? ?___|||___
[0.4] AG7GK-2>APMI06,W7MOT-3*,WIDE2-1::AG7GK-2? :UNIT.Volt,Pkt,Pkt,Pcnt,None,On,On,On,On,Hi,Hi,Hi,Hi
Telemetry Unit/Label Message for "AG7GK-2", BUS, SQ3PLX http://microsat.com.pl/
?
Digipeater W7MOT-3 audio level = 119(57/36)? ?[NONE]? ?__|||||__
Audio input level is too high.? Reduce so most stations are around 50.
[0.4] AG7GK-2>APMI06,W7MOT-3*,WIDE2-1::AG7GK-2? :EQNS.0,0.075,0,0,10,0,0,10,0,0,1,0,0,0,0
Telemetry Equation Coefficents Message for "AG7GK-2", BUS, SQ3PLX http://microsat.com.pl/
?
Digipeater W7MOT-3 audio level = 134(65/37)? ?[NONE]? ?__||||||_
Audio input level is too high.? Reduce so most stations are around 50.
[0.4] AG7GK-2>APMI06,W7MOT-3*,WIDE2-1::AG7GK-2? :BITS.11111111,WX3in1Plus20 Telemetry
Telemetry Bit Sense/Project Name Message for "AG7GK-2", BUS, SQ3PLX http://microsat.com.pl/
DCD 0 = 0
PTT 0 = 1
[0H] AG7GK-2>APMI06,W7MOT-3,N7PN-1*::AG7GK-2? :UNIT.Volt,Pkt,Pkt,Pcnt,None,On,On,On,On,Hi,Hi,Hi,Hi
DCD 0 = 1
PTT 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 0
PTT 0 = 1
[0H] AG7GK-2>APMI06,W7MOT-3,N7PN-1*::AG7GK-2? :EQNS.0,0.075,0,0,10,0,0,10,0,0,1,0,0,0,0
DCD 0 = 1
?
Digipeater N7PN-1 audio level = 12(19/11)? ?[NONE]? ?||||||___
[0.2] AG7GK-2>APMI06,W7MOT-3,N7PN-1*::AG7GK-2? :EQNS.0,0.075,0,0,10,0,0,10,0,0,1,0,0,0,0
Telemetry Equation Coefficents Message for "AG7GK-2", BUS, SQ3PLX http://microsat.com.pl/
PTT 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 0
PTT 0 = 1
[0H] AG7GK-2>APMI06,W7MOT-3,N7PN-1*::AG7GK-2? :BITS.11111111,WX3in1Plus20 Telemetry
DCD 0 = 1
?
Digipeater N7PN-1 audio level = 10(11/7)? ?[NONE]? ?|||||____
[0.2] AG7GK-2>APMI06,W7MOT-3,N7PN-1*::AG7GK-2? :BITS.11111111,WX3in1Plus20 Telemetry
Telemetry Bit Sense/Project Name Message for "AG7GK-2", BUS, SQ3PLX http://microsat.com.pl/
PTT 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
PTT 0 = 1
[0L] N7PN-1>APDW16,WIDE1-1:!3335.90N/11212.94W#360/000Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
DCD 0 = 1
PTT 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
PTT 0 = 1
[0L] N7PN-1>APDW16,WIDE1-1:!3335.90N/11212.94W#360/000Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
DCD 0 = 1
?
N7PN-1 audio level = 10(12/9)? ?[NONE]? ?||||||___
[0.2] N7PN-1>APDW16,WIDE1-1:!3335.90N/11212.94W#360/000Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
Position, DIGI (white center), DireWolf, WB2OSZ
N 33 35.9000, W 112 12.9400, 0 MPH, course 360
Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
PTT 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
?
W7MOT-3 audio level = 105(46/31)? ?[NONE]? ?___|||___
[0.4] W7MOT-3>APN382,WIDE2-2:!3334.67NS11234.43W#PHG5880/White Tanks, AZ VHF Digi, 3880 ft ASL<0x0d>
Position, OVERLAY DIGI (green star) w/overlay S, Kantronics KPC-3 rom versions, 25 W height=2560 8dBi omni
N 33 34.6700, W 112 34.4300
/White Tanks, AZ VHF Digi, 3880 ft ASL
DCD 0 = 0
PTT 0 = 1
[0H] W7MOT-3>APN382,N7PN-1*,WIDE2-1:!3334.67NS11234.43W#PHG5880/White Tanks, AZ VHF Digi, 3880 ft ASL<0x0d>
DCD 0 = 1
PTT 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
PTT 0 = 1
[0L] N7PN-1>APDW16,WIDE1-1:!3335.90N/11212.94W#360/000Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
DCD 0 = 1
?
N7PN-1 audio level = 14(15/10)? ?[NONE]? ?||||||___
[0.2] N7PN-1>APDW16,WIDE1-1:!3335.90N/11212.94W#360/000Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
Position, DIGI (white center), DireWolf, WB2OSZ
N 33 35.9000, W 112 12.9400, 0 MPH, course 360
Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
PTT 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
PTT 0 = 1
[0L] N7PN-1>APDW16,WIDE1-1:!3335.90N/11212.93W#360/000Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
DCD 0 = 1
?
N7PN-1 audio level = 13(14/9)? ?[NONE]? ?|||||____
[0.2] N7PN-1>APDW16,WIDE1-1:!3335.90N/11212.93W#360/000Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
Position, DIGI (white center), DireWolf, WB2OSZ
N 33 35.9000, W 112 12.9300, 0 MPH, course 360
Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
PTT 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
PTT 0 = 1
[0L] N7PN-1>APDW16,WIDE1-1:!3335.90N/11212.94W#360/000Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
DCD 0 = 1
?
N7PN-1 audio level = 10(12/8)? ?[NONE]? ?|||||____
[0.2] N7PN-1>APDW16,WIDE1-1:!3335.90N/11212.94W#360/000Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
Position, DIGI (white center), DireWolf, WB2OSZ
N 33 35.9000, W 112 12.9400, 0 MPH, course 360
Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
PTT 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
PTT 0 = 1
[0L] N7PN-1>APDW16,WIDE1-1:!3335.90N/11212.94W#360/000Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
DCD 0 = 1
GPSD: Lost location fix.
?
N7PN-1 audio level = 12(14/9)? ?[NONE]? ?||||||___
[0.2] N7PN-1>APDW16,WIDE1-1:!3335.90N/11212.94W#360/000Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
Position, DIGI (white center), DireWolf, WB2OSZ
N 33 35.9000, W 112 12.9400, 0 MPH, course 360
Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
PTT 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 0
GPSD: Location fix is now 3D.
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
PTT 0 = 1
[0L] N7PN-1>APDW16,WIDE1-1:!3335.90N/11212.94W#360/000Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
DCD 0 = 1
?
N7PN-1 audio level = 13(14/10)? ?[NONE]? ?||||||___
[0.2] N7PN-1>APDW16,WIDE1-1:!3335.90N/11212.94W#360/000Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
Position, DIGI (white center), DireWolf, WB2OSZ
N 33 35.9000, W 112 12.9400, 0 MPH, course 360
Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
PTT 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
PTT 0 = 1
[0L] N7PN-1>APDW16,WIDE1-1:!3335.90N/11212.94W#360/000Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
DCD 0 = 1
?
N7PN-1 audio level = 8(7/6)? ?[NONE]? ?||||||___
[0.2] N7PN-1>APDW16,WIDE1-1:!3335.90N/11212.94W#360/000Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
Position, DIGI (white center), DireWolf, WB2OSZ
N 33 35.9000, W 112 12.9400, 0 MPH, course 360
Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
PTT 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
?
Digipeater W7MOT-3 audio level = 113(45/31)? ?[NONE]? ?____||___
Audio input level is too high.? Reduce so most stations are around 50.
[0.4] WX7FGZ-6>APRS,W7MOT-3*,WIDE2:!3519.60N/11141.50W_SnowBowl
Didn't find wind direction in form c999.
Didn't find wind speed in form s999.
Didn't find wind gust in form g999.
Didn't find temperature in form t999.
Weather Report, WEATHER Station (blue), Generic, (obsolete. Digis should use APNxxx instead)
N 35 19.6000, W 111 41.5000
, "SnowBowl"
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
PTT 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 1
[0L] N7PN-1>APDW16,WIDE1-1:!3335.90N/11212.94W#360/000Portable Pi Digi - No IGate
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
PTT 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0
DCD 0 = 1
DCD 0 = 0

Can you tell me how to interpret the data?

BTW, the beacon from N7PN-7 does not show up nor does it show on aprs.fi.

Thanks,
Fred/N7PN



Re: No receive packets with Direwolf for MacOS

 

Thanks to all. I have managed to get it working by buying a different USB sound card from Amazon. The new one identifies as 'USB Audio Device' for receive and transmit, rather than separately named devices for each direction.?

My next task is to get the Python library aioAX25 running connected mode, which will be a challenge since there is a heap of connected mode code yet to be implemented in the library.?

Once again, thanks to everyone who helped. I have a way forward, even if I can't get the original hardware to operate


Re: Raspberry Pi Zero2w Direwolf not Digipeating

 

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Hello Fred,

I just built a standalone digipeater running Direwolf. The digipeater is beaconing just fine as I'm able to verify the beacons on aprs.fi. However, it is not digipeating.

How are you judging that it's not digipeating?? Because you don't see the Direwolf setup transmit or because you don't see your digipeater being the relay station according to aprs.fi??? If it's the later, you cannot go by what aprs.fi says as other Igates might be getting the packet into APRS-IS quicker and your digipeater's packet is discarded as duplicate.? You can read more about this in the Direwolf User Guide section 9.5.4.


I have tested this by putting my FT3D beaconing on low power here around the house and walking in my neighborhood.

I see you're using N7PN-7 though only with a path of WIDE2-1.? That should be ok though it's more common to use "WIDE1-1, WIDE2-1"


DIGIPEAT 0 0 ^WIDE[3-7]-[1-7]$|^TEST$ ^WIDE[12]-[12]$ TRACE

I know this configuration comes from the default direwolf.conf file but the inclusion of only one pipe aka | characters seems off.? The direwolf User Guide recommends a simplier config:

?? DIGIPEAT 0 0 ^WIDE[3-7]-[1-7]$ ^WIDE[12]-[12]$

Give that a try.? I also recommend to enable Direwolf debugging by starting direwolf with the options "-doifff"? (yes, the triple f is intentional)

--David
KI6ZHD




Raspberry Pi Zero2w Direwolf not Digipeating

 

Hello Everyone,

I just built a standalone digipeater running Direwolf. The digipeater is beaconing just fine as I'm able to verify the beacons on aprs.fi. However, it is not digipeating. I have tested this by putting my FT3D beaconing on low power here around the house and walking in my neighborhood. I know the FT3D is beaconing when I raise the power and other digipeaters pick up the signal. I am new to APRS, Direwolf and Linux. But after spending hours trying to figure this out by reading different posts here, I thought it time to reach out here for answers.

Here is how I have digipeating configured:

# the "#" from the beginning of the line below.
#
?
DIGIPEAT 0 0 ^WIDE[3-7]-[1-7]$|^TEST$ ^WIDE[12]-[12]$ TRACE
?
# See User Guide for more explanation of what this means and how
# it can be customized for your particular needs.
?
# Filtering can be used to limit was is digipeated.
# For example, only weather weather reports, received on channel 0,
# will be retransmitted on channel 1.
#
?
#FILTER 0 1 t/wn
?
# Traditional connected mode packet radio uses a different
# type of digipeating.? See User Guide for details.

Thanks for reading!

Fred/N7PN

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Re: TH-D710 and DIREWOLF

 

Oh! That's different. You would have to send an Object message (not a self position beacon) that is precisely formatted to be compatible with the Kenwood's built-in TNC.

;rptrname-*111111zddmm.mmN/dddmm.ddWr146.990MHz T100 - my repeater description

where the ddmm.mm is latitude, dddmm.mm is longitude, the rptrname- is an exactly 9-character string identifying your repeater, the 146.990 is the frequency in megahertz, the T100 is the CTCSS tone (without the fractional Hertz and with a leading zero if only two digits, i.e. T067), and the - is the repeater shift direction (+ for positive shift), and "my repeater description" is a short human-readable string.

Now, how you put that in the direwolf.conf file is a separate issue.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Danny K5CG <k5cg@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 4:26 PM
To: direwolf
Subject: Re: [direwolf] TH-D710 and DIREWOLF

Luc,

You want to configure YOUR direwolf to send the correct APRS packet so that OTHER PEOPLE with Kenwood radios can use the Tune button to QSY to your repeater, yes?



________________________________
From: "Luc Drolet VE2LUQ" <ldrolet@...>
To: "direwolf" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 2:11:10 PM
Subject: Re: [direwolf] TH-D710 and DIREWOLF

Hello everyone,

Wow, you said several things OK, if I understood correctly
at the level of the repeater where my Rasperry is located with Direwolf I must have a Kenwood radio to connect with my raspberry PI "Direwolf"

Because I don't know what to do!!!

Currently I have a Yaesu FT2600

to activate this function on Kenwood TH-D710 radios

Thanks for your help
Greatly appreciate


Luc Drolet VE2 LUQ
Pr¨¦sident de VE2CVA
C.R.A.V.A.
Club Radio Amateur Vall¨¦e de l'Amiante
VE2 CVA
ve2cva@...
ldrolet@...

Instagram :
Echolink = VE2RVA-R NODE #24560
S¨¦curit¨¦ Civil du Qu¨¦bec, Node #1400






Le 19 mars 2023 ¨¤ 14:11, Danny K5CG <k5cg@...> a ¨¦crit :

You need the Kenwood PG-5H cable
Or if you already have RT Systems software for either the TM-D10A or TM-V71A, you can use the USB-K5D Programming Cable.

Danny, K5CG
user of YAAC :)

________________________________
From: "Andrew P." <andrewemt@...>
To: "direwolf" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 1:00:22 PM
Subject: Re: [direwolf] TH-D710 and DIREWOLF

YAAC's repeaterfinder plugin has the logic to parse APRS repeater objects and send the commands to tune a Kenwood radio as well. You need the Kenwood PG-5H cable to the transceiver body to send the tuning commands. The repeaterfinder plugin also can tune Icom radios using CI-V command protocol.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC


Re: TH-D710 and DIREWOLF

 

Luc,

You want to configure YOUR direwolf to send the correct APRS packet so that OTHER PEOPLE with Kenwood radios can use the Tune button to QSY to your repeater, yes?




From: "Luc Drolet VE2LUQ" <ldrolet@...>
To: "direwolf" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 2:11:10 PM
Subject: Re: [direwolf] TH-D710 and DIREWOLF

Hello everyone,

Wow, you said several things OK, if I understood correctly
at the level of the repeater where my Rasperry is located with Direwolf I must have a Kenwood radio to connect with my raspberry PI "Direwolf"

Because I don't know what to do!!!

Currently I have a Yaesu FT2600

to activate this function on Kenwood TH-D710 radios

Thanks for your help
Greatly appreciate


Luc Drolet VE2 LUQ
Pr¨¦sident de VE2CVA
C.R.A.V.A.
Club Radio Amateur Vall¨¦e de l'Amiante
VE2 CVA
ve2cva@...
ldrolet@...
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100070541539498
Instagram :?https://www.instagram.com/ve2cva/
Echolink = ? VE2RVA-R ? ?NODE #24560
S¨¦curit¨¦ Civil du Qu¨¦bec, Node #1400






Le 19 mars 2023 ¨¤ 14:11, Danny K5CG <k5cg@...> a ¨¦crit :

> You need the Kenwood PG-5H cable

Or if you already have RT Systems software for either the TM-D10A or TM-V71A, you can use the USB-K5D Programming Cable.

Danny,?K5CG
user of YAAC :)


From: "Andrew P." <andrewemt@...>
To: "direwolf" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 1:00:22 PM
Subject: Re: [direwolf] TH-D710 and DIREWOLF

YAAC's repeaterfinder plugin has the logic to parse APRS repeater objects and send the commands to tune a Kenwood radio as well. You need the Kenwood PG-5H cable to the transceiver body to send the tuning commands. The repeaterfinder plugin also can tune Icom radios using CI-V command protocol.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC




Re: problem implementing tone-keyed radio-to-soundcard interface

 

Okay, thanks, I'll butt out then.

On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 10:16?AM Rob Giuliano via <kb8rco=[email protected]> wrote:
I took a look at the referenced PDF.? We have had Stephen (WA8LMF) give talks at club meetings.?
He makes a lot of good information available to the HAM community.?
And it has been my experience that he knows the information he posts to be accurate, so I will leave that part alon.
The PDF clearly shows the peak detector circuit to control the PTT.

What I still find in your diagram vs. the PDF diagram:
? Sound card audio has a 500 ohm 'volume control' after the 10k resistor when the sound card is in use.? You leave out that resistor.
? The PDF shows an option for adding a larger parallel capacitor to increase the PTT tail.?
????? I'd suggest choosing the value you need (say try 0.047uF and determine what works for you) and leave it without an option.
? I think you want the LEDs in parallel (not series),

?I didn't add the 500 ohm Mic level control.

-------
Rob KB8RCO


Re: TH-D710 and DIREWOLF

 

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Hello Luc,

The D710's "tune" button is on the control head so when the APRS system running on VFO-A decodes a specific APRS beacon packet and you press the "tune" button, the radio can QSY VFO-B to that same frequency, PL tone.? Your I assume your Yaesu FT2600 is meant to be a dedicated APRS radio so having such an option from DIrewolf would QSY your radio away from 144.390 to this alternative frequency.? That would be bad.? It doesn't matter though as your Yaesu radio doesn't support RIG control so you cannot remotely change it's frequency anyway.? Very few VHF/UHF FM radios offer rig control but the Kenwood v71/D710s do (though they are all EOLed now).

--David
KI6ZHD


On 03/19/2023 12:11 PM, Luc Drolet VE2LUQ wrote:

Hello everyone,

Wow, you said several things OK, if I understood correctly
at the level of the repeater where my Rasperry is located with Direwolf I must have a Kenwood radio to connect with my raspberry PI "Direwolf"

Because I don't know what to do!!!

Currently I have a Yaesu FT2600

to activate this function on Kenwood TH-D710 radios

Thanks for your help
Greatly appreciate


Luc Drolet VE2 LUQ
Pr¨¦sident de VE2CVA
C.R.A.V.A.
Club Radio Amateur Vall¨¦e de l'Amiante
VE2 CVA
ve2cva@...
ldrolet@...
Instagram :?
Echolink = ? VE2RVA-R ? ?NODE #24560
S¨¦curit¨¦ Civil du Qu¨¦bec, Node #1400






Le 19 mars 2023 ¨¤ 14:11, Danny K5CG <k5cg@...> a ¨¦crit :

> You need the Kenwood PG-5H cable

Or if you already have RT Systems software for either the TM-D10A or TM-V71A, you can use the USB-K5D Programming Cable.

Danny,?K5CG
user of YAAC :)


From: "Andrew P." <andrewemt@...>
To: "direwolf" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 1:00:22 PM
Subject: Re: [direwolf] TH-D710 and DIREWOLF

YAAC's repeaterfinder plugin has the logic to parse APRS repeater objects and send the commands to tune a Kenwood radio as well. You need the Kenwood PG-5H cable to the transceiver body to send the tuning commands. The repeaterfinder plugin also can tune Icom radios using CI-V command protocol.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC




Re: TH-D710 and DIREWOLF

 

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Hello everyone,

Wow, you said several things OK, if I understood correctly
at the level of the repeater where my Rasperry is located with Direwolf I must have a Kenwood radio to connect with my raspberry PI "Direwolf"

Because I don't know what to do!!!

Currently I have a Yaesu FT2600

to activate this function on Kenwood TH-D710 radios

Thanks for your help
Greatly appreciate


Luc Drolet VE2 LUQ
Pr¨¦sident de VE2CVA
C.R.A.V.A.
Club Radio Amateur Vall¨¦e de l'Amiante
VE2 CVA
ve2cva@...
ldrolet@...
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100070541539498
Instagram :?https://www.instagram.com/ve2cva/
Echolink = ? VE2RVA-R ? ?NODE #24560
S¨¦curit¨¦ Civil du Qu¨¦bec, Node #1400






Le 19 mars 2023 ¨¤ 14:11, Danny K5CG <k5cg@...> a ¨¦crit :

> You need the Kenwood PG-5H cable

Or if you already have RT Systems software for either the TM-D10A or TM-V71A, you can use the USB-K5D Programming Cable.

Danny,?K5CG
user of YAAC :)


From: "Andrew P." <andrewemt@...>
To: "direwolf" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 1:00:22 PM
Subject: Re: [direwolf] TH-D710 and DIREWOLF

YAAC's repeaterfinder plugin has the logic to parse APRS repeater objects and send the commands to tune a Kenwood radio as well. You need the Kenwood PG-5H cable to the transceiver body to send the tuning commands. The repeaterfinder plugin also can tune Icom radios using CI-V command protocol.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC



Re: TH-D710 and DIREWOLF

 

> You need the Kenwood PG-5H cable

Or if you already have RT Systems software for either the TM-D10A or TM-V71A, you can use the USB-K5D Programming Cable.

Danny,?K5CG
user of YAAC :)


From: "Andrew P." <andrewemt@...>
To: "direwolf" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 1:00:22 PM
Subject: Re: [direwolf] TH-D710 and DIREWOLF

YAAC's repeaterfinder plugin has the logic to parse APRS repeater objects and send the commands to tune a Kenwood radio as well. You need the Kenwood PG-5H cable to the transceiver body to send the tuning commands. The repeaterfinder plugin also can tune Icom radios using CI-V command protocol.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC


Re: TH-D710 and DIREWOLF

 

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YAAC's repeaterfinder plugin has the logic to parse APRS repeater objects and send the commands to tune a Kenwood radio as well. You need the Kenwood PG-5H cable to the transceiver body to send the tuning commands. The repeaterfinder plugin also can tune Icom radios using CI-V command protocol.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Danny K5CG <k5cg@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023, 1:53 PM
To: direwolf <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [direwolf] TH-D710 and DIREWOLF

Hi Luc,

The Tune function is a feature of the TM-D710 and some other radios whereby you can have the non data-band side of the radio QSY to the frequency advertised in an APRS packet, but only IF the APRS packet is decoded by the radio's internal TNC AND the APRS packet is in the correct format here. See here

You can advertise the frequency of your repeater in direwolf by sending that format. I don't know exactly what to add to the direwolf.conf because I use YAAC to beacon my repeater.

It should look like this?

Comment: 443.825MHz C123 + AllStar 480361

I hope that helps even a little.

Danny
K5CG / VA3UE


From: "Luc Drolet VE2LUQ" <ldrolet@...>
To: "direwolf" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 11:51:38 AM
Subject: [direwolf] TH-D710 and DIREWOLF

Hello everyone,

this morning during our amateur radio lunch
there is one of my members, who asked me a question about DIREWOLF
it works with a Kenwood TH-D710 radio
and he tells me that he has a "Tune" function on his Radio and if he activates this function
it could go directly to a frequency according to direwolf

Does DIREWOLF have this on
I give an example

on the site where APRS is located I have a 145.130 Mhz repeater
and my question is if DIREWOLF can I put this information in direwolf
and Kenwood TH-D710 operators and as soon as they press the "TUNE" function, their second "VFO" automatically switches to 145.130 Mhz

Thank you all for your help, hoping to understand me

Good day


Luc Drolet VE2 LUQ
Pr¨¦sident de VE2CVA
C.R.A.V.A.
Club Radio Amateur Vall¨¦e de l'Amiante
VE2 CVA
ve2cva@...
ldrolet@...
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100070541539498
Instagram :?https://www.instagram.com/ve2cva/
Echolink = ? VE2RVA-R ? ?NODE #24560
S¨¦curit¨¦ Civil du Qu¨¦bec, Node #1400









Re: TH-D710 and DIREWOLF

 

Hi Luc,

The Tune function is a feature of the TM-D710 and some other radios whereby you can have the non data-band side of the radio QSY to the frequency advertised in an APRS packet, but only IF the APRS packet is decoded by the radio's internal TNC AND the APRS packet is in the correct format here. See here

You can advertise the frequency of your repeater in direwolf by sending that format. I don't know exactly what to add to the direwolf.conf because I use YAAC to beacon my repeater.

It should look like this?

Comment:443.825MHz C123 + AllStar 480361

I hope that helps even a little.

Danny
K5CG / VA3UE


From: "Luc Drolet VE2LUQ" <ldrolet@...>
To: "direwolf" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 11:51:38 AM
Subject: [direwolf] TH-D710 and DIREWOLF

Hello everyone,

this morning during our amateur radio lunch
there is one of my members, who asked me a question about DIREWOLF
it works with a Kenwood TH-D710 radio
and he tells me that he has a "Tune" function on his Radio and if he activates this function
it could go directly to a frequency according to direwolf

Does DIREWOLF have this on
I give an example

on the site where APRS is located I have a 145.130 Mhz repeater
and my question is if DIREWOLF can I put this information in direwolf
and Kenwood TH-D710 operators and as soon as they press the "TUNE" function, their second "VFO" automatically switches to 145.130 Mhz

Thank you all for your help, hoping to understand me

Good day


Luc Drolet VE2 LUQ
Pr¨¦sident de VE2CVA
C.R.A.V.A.
Club Radio Amateur Vall¨¦e de l'Amiante
VE2 CVA
ve2cva@...
ldrolet@...
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100070541539498
Instagram :?https://www.instagram.com/ve2cva/
Echolink = ? VE2RVA-R ? ?NODE #24560
S¨¦curit¨¦ Civil du Qu¨¦bec, Node #1400








Re: problem implementing tone-keyed radio-to-soundcard interface

 

I took a look at the referenced PDF.? We have had Stephen (WA8LMF) give talks at club meetings.?
He makes a lot of good information available to the HAM community.?
And it has been my experience that he knows the information he posts to be accurate, so I will leave that part alon.
The PDF clearly shows the peak detector circuit to control the PTT.

What I still find in your diagram vs. the PDF diagram:
? Sound card audio has a 500 ohm 'volume control' after the 10k resistor when the sound card is in use.? You leave out that resistor.
? The PDF shows an option for adding a larger parallel capacitor to increase the PTT tail.?
????? I'd suggest choosing the value you need (say try 0.047uF and determine what works for you) and leave it without an option.
? I think you want the LEDs in parallel (not series),

?I didn't add the 500 ohm Mic level control.

-------
Rob KB8RCO


TH-D710 and DIREWOLF

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Hello everyone,

this morning during our amateur radio lunch
there is one of my members, who asked me a question about DIREWOLF
it works with a Kenwood TH-D710 radio
and he tells me that he has a "Tune" function on his Radio and if he activates this function
it could go directly to a frequency according to direwolf

Does DIREWOLF have this on
I give an example

on the site where APRS is located I have a 145.130 Mhz repeater
and my question is if DIREWOLF can I put this information in direwolf
and Kenwood TH-D710 operators and as soon as they press the "TUNE" function, their second "VFO" automatically switches to 145.130 Mhz

Thank you all for your help, hoping to understand me

Good day


Luc Drolet VE2 LUQ
Pr¨¦sident de VE2CVA
C.R.A.V.A.
Club Radio Amateur Vall¨¦e de l'Amiante
VE2 CVA
ve2cva@...
ldrolet@...
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100070541539498
Instagram :?https://www.instagram.com/ve2cva/
Echolink = ? VE2RVA-R ? ?NODE #24560
S¨¦curit¨¦ Civil du Qu¨¦bec, Node #1400







Re: problem implementing tone-keyed radio-to-soundcard interface

 

The block diagram is a bit harder to follow for me, and I found it after I looked at the PDF. The schematic in the PDF is much easier to follow.
The input audio is amplified by the first half of the op-amp, The output is rectified by the diode and the resulting DC is used to charge the capacitors (earlier e-mail) That DC is used by the second half of the op-amp (as a switch) to control the turn on/off of the leds. The one led obviously being the one in the opto. If you want to see the output from the opto you would have to connect a load, for instance an LED with a 1k resistor from B+ to the collector of the opto. I'm reasonably sure any op-amp would work for the application LM386 MC1488 etc. If you look up the application notes for op-amps there is probably a detailed explanation of the + - inputs (inverting and non-inverting) and how they relate to the output. I was originally surprised that there was not a split supply, but as the op-amp is used the way it is, it is probably not necessary to reproduce the input waveforms verbatim as they are only looking to make DC.


On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 7:12?AM Gil Rand via <gilrand=[email protected]> wrote:
Rob and Sid, I think all of the op-amp circuit is not present. The gist as I see it is the audio is amplified, rectified to dc, which charges the capacitors for a hang time into the second half of the op-amp. If the caps have dc then the output inverts and? is low, turning on the leds for the opto and indicator. The output from the opto (collector) goes low and PTT happens. I am sure you guys arrived at the same conclusions I did.
Years ago I built a similar circuit for a fast, no tail squelch. I used the op-amp to control a 4066 switch. It worked the same only if audio (un-squelched noise was present) it held the 4066 closed. If a signal (no white noise) was present, the 4066 was connected. The problem was if the circuit was overdriven with audio it would chop as it would see audio as noise, so the levels had to be set accordingly. Not a big deal and worked great FOR VOICE. I don't know how well this keying circuit would work for data as what is considered fast for audio might be way too slow for data from the point of keying and un-keying.
I personally would NOT bother with re-inventing the wheel and use a GPIO pin for the PTT. I am also not a fan of audio transformers but that is probably just me as I have never had a lot of luck with them and, for me, seem to be hard to get for some reason, although I did just strip some out of an audio control rack.
The intention of the resistor and capacitors is to hold the input for the second op-amp (PTT control) providing delay. The resistor bleeds off the charge on the capacitors (capacity adds in parallel), so the more capacitance the more the delay and the resistor bleeds off the charge to release the PTT. 73 de Gil ve7bul?

On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 8:40?PM Sidney Tupper <sid@...> wrote:
Thanks for responding, Rob.? Yes, as I understand it and hope, the circuit is meant to activate the PTT while it's sending APRS data, like VOX.? The designer (see link below in the thread)?claims it's fast enough to do that without losing any of the data.? Unfortunately his email address is inactive so I haven't been able to get guidance from him.??

I'll have to educate myself better on op-amps.? I have no idea what the intention of the resistors and capacitors is.? But your ideas about the circuit make sense to me.? I'll have another look at my soldering joints and the actual vs design layout of the circuit to see if I can find something wrong.? I have faith that the designer wouldn't have taken the trouble to document the thing if he hadn't built and tested it first.

Worst case, I can find a circuit with PTT activated directly by direwolf instead of this VOXy approach.

Thanks again!
Sid
VA7SDO?


Re: problem implementing tone-keyed radio-to-soundcard interface

 

Rob and Sid, I think all of the op-amp circuit is not present. The gist as I see it is the audio is amplified, rectified to dc, which charges the capacitors for a hang time into the second half of the op-amp. If the caps have dc then the output inverts and? is low, turning on the leds for the opto and indicator. The output from the opto (collector) goes low and PTT happens. I am sure you guys arrived at the same conclusions I did.
Years ago I built a similar circuit for a fast, no tail squelch. I used the op-amp to control a 4066 switch. It worked the same only if audio (un-squelched noise was present) it held the 4066 closed. If a signal (no white noise) was present, the 4066 was connected. The problem was if the circuit was overdriven with audio it would chop as it would see audio as noise, so the levels had to be set accordingly. Not a big deal and worked great FOR VOICE. I don't know how well this keying circuit would work for data as what is considered fast for audio might be way too slow for data from the point of keying and un-keying.
I personally would NOT bother with re-inventing the wheel and use a GPIO pin for the PTT. I am also not a fan of audio transformers but that is probably just me as I have never had a lot of luck with them and, for me, seem to be hard to get for some reason, although I did just strip some out of an audio control rack.
The intention of the resistor and capacitors is to hold the input for the second op-amp (PTT control) providing delay. The resistor bleeds off the charge on the capacitors (capacity adds in parallel), so the more capacitance the more the delay and the resistor bleeds off the charge to release the PTT. 73 de Gil ve7bul?


On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 8:40?PM Sidney Tupper <sid@...> wrote:
Thanks for responding, Rob.? Yes, as I understand it and hope, the circuit is meant to activate the PTT while it's sending APRS data, like VOX.? The designer (see link below in the thread)?claims it's fast enough to do that without losing any of the data.? Unfortunately his email address is inactive so I haven't been able to get guidance from him.??

I'll have to educate myself better on op-amps.? I have no idea what the intention of the resistors and capacitors is.? But your ideas about the circuit make sense to me.? I'll have another look at my soldering joints and the actual vs design layout of the circuit to see if I can find something wrong.? I have faith that the designer wouldn't have taken the trouble to document the thing if he hadn't built and tested it first.

Worst case, I can find a circuit with PTT activated directly by direwolf instead of this VOXy approach.

Thanks again!
Sid
VA7SDO?