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Re: Gab Responds: Elon Buys Twitter, Now What?
agreed, not to mention anti-black. i didn't know one could fit so many dog whistles in one email?
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On Apr 30, 2022, at 00:16, Eric Bloom via groups.io <ericbloom8@...> wrote:
? that guy sounds like an anti-semitic lunatic
On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:39 AM, Dan Buck <vertpurple@...> wrote:
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Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 7:18 AM
Subject: Gab Responds: Elon Buys Twitter, Now What?
Many people have been asking me what I think about Elon Musk purchasing Twitter for $44 billion dollars. In this letter I’m going to tell you what this means for Gab and provide my analysis of the situation as someone who has been trailblazing free speech infrastructure on the internet for nearly six years.
Tonight I am going to sleep as Peter did in Acts chapter 12 the night before his execution. For those of you who don’t know the story, I probably sound crazy, but if you read your Bible you’ll see that in Acts 12 Peter is miraculously freed from jail where an angel found him sleeping like a baby.
On the surface Acts 12 looks like the story of Peter’s miraculous escape from prison. If you look a little deeper you’ll see that it is actually about Peter’s miraculous transformation from the man who denied Jesus three times to a man with enough faith to sleep like a baby the night before his scheduled execution.
Peter was sleeping so peacefully and deeply while being chained to the arms of two guards in jail that when an angel appeared he thought he was dreaming or having a vision in the fog of waking up from a deep sleep.
Then Peter came to himself and said, “Now I know without a doubt that the Lord has sent his angel and rescued me from Herod’s clutches and from everything the Jewish people were hoping would happen." Acts 12:11
This is the faith that I have in this moment.
A moment where our enemies are saying “Gab is surely dead now” for the 1000th time in six years.
It’s the same faith I had when Gab was reduced to a pile of ash in the fall of 2018 and we lost everything. We were banned from hosting providers, payment processors, and my CTO quit all within roughly 72 hours. The website was offline for six days, but on day seven the site was resurrected by the grace of God and by the incredible determination of one brave engineer who didn’t sleep for a week.
It is from that pile of ash that I watched God grow Gab into the single most resilient alternative to Big Tech with a community of tens of millions of people that it is today.
As Christians, we are blessed to witness the Resurrection Power of Jesus Christ in our lives. We watch in awe as He takes things that are dead and raises them back to life.
Jesus Christ turns tragedy into testimony.
Gab is my testimony.
Unlike Mr. Musk I don’t answer to anyone outside of God almighty, especially not moneychangers.
Just a few days ago Morgan Stanley was praising Elon’s Boring Company . A few weeks before that they were . Morgan Stanley owns 3.7 million Tesla shares equal to about $3.9 billion in value so it should come as no surprise to learn that they are backing Elon’s $44 billion Twitter takeover and praising every company Elon runs.
Many people wrongfully believe that Elon pulled $44 billion out of his bank account and bought Twitter, but that’s not how any of this works. Elon’s moneychanger friends . The moneychangers don’t just throw around $20 billion for no reason.
So who really bought Twitter and who will really be in control? God only knows.
What I know for certain is that I fully control Gab as its supermajority shareholder and sole Board member.
You can learn more
Elon can have Twitter.
People falsely assume that Gab is a “Twitter knockoff,” but this hasn’t been the case for several years. Functionally Gab is more like Facebook. We have Gab Groups, Gab Marketplace, Gab News, Gab TV, GabPay, and much more on the way. We aren’t and haven’t been competing with Twitter for years. Facebook users are our core target market.
We quickly realized back in 2019 that the vast majority of people in the United States are simply not on Twitter. The first issue is that over half of Twitter’s . The other half are , but let’s be honest these people are basically robots too.
The bottom line is these aren’t our people. This isn’t our target market. The majority of people who remain on Twitter today will never use Gab because they will never survive in an environment with true free speech. There is finite number of conservative Twitter users who will make the switch, but tens of millions of Christian Facebook users who want off of Zuckerberg’s demonic plantation.
If anyone is doomed by Elon Musk buying Twitter it’s Parler, Gettr, and Truth Social.
The entire value proposition of Parler, Gettr, and Truth Social was being “not Twitter.” None of them even offer a free speech Terms of Service. In Parler’s case, they and started censoring to get back on the App Store. In Gettr’s case, they ruined their reputation on day one by . Truth Social is a disaster that uses . Its main attraction–President Donald Trump–.
I predict that Elon Musk buying Twitter will force the left to balkanize into niche platforms of shared values like the right has. We will see the Gab, Parler, and Gettr of the left pop up. I’ve been talking about the into smaller niche communities for several years now and things are about to accelerate in this area. That’s a good thing. It means Silicon Valley is losing power and fast.
that Twitter’s source code has now been locked down to make it harder for current employees to make unauthorized changes to the platform. This tells us that Twitter’s Board recognizes the total and complete internal meltdown that is happening right now.
We’ve seen rogue employees and contractors at Twitter before. Remember the time a random contractor, not even an employee, ? Or how about the former Twitter employees who ?
Elon now has to deal with 7,500 far-left Twitter employees and I sincerely wish him all the best in absolutely clearing house and starting from scratch by firing every last one of the existing employees. Needless to say, this won’t be an easy task, nor will be upending Twitter’s policies and technology.
Aside from the internal war and struggle that Elon is about to endure at Twitter he will also face a variety of external attacks from the media, the government, the ADL, and Big Tech giants like Apple and Google who control Twitter’s distribution destiny on the app stores.
Apple’s market cap is 2.7 trillion dollars. Don’t think for one second they won’t ban a $44 billion dollar app like Twitter from their app stores. Fortnite is owned by a $28 billion dollar video game giant and was the most popular video game in the world at the time, but that didn’t stop Apple from without blinking. It won’t stop them from banning Twitter either.
The media will give Elon the Trump treatment and call him a “racist bigot nazi white supremacist hater.” They will go after all of his other businesses. There will be leaks from Twitter employees to the press constantly. The ADL and SPLC will create bogus “studies” to show how “toxic” and “harmful” Twitter is and then feed that to the press.
Today the Biden administration said they would support “reforming Section 230, enacting anti-trust reforms,” and “requiring more transparency” on social media to combat COVID-19 “misinformation.” So now Elon will have to deal with regulators, lawmakers, and the Executive branch.
Then there is the fact that Twitter is totally and completely dependent on third-party infrastructure. They will be attacked at every level of the tech stack from DNS, to hosting providers, app stores, email services, and more. Some of the top investors in Silicon Valley are , as if to say they already have these wheels in motion! Gab overcame and rebuilt from absolutely nothing through all of these hurdles. Will Twitter be able to do so at their scale and at what cost?
When Twitter gets banned from half a dozen banks, Visa, app stores, hosting providers, email services, and more they can get on our level with free speech.
Almost two weeks ago in my offer letter to Elon, I said this: “Twitter operates in countries where mass censorship is required by law. They have offices in these countries. They have no choice but to comply with the censorship demands of those countries or risk being shut down, fines, etc.”
Today the Financial Times is reporting that “Brussels has warned Elon Musk that Twitter must comply with the EU’s new digital rules under his ownership, or risk hefty fines or even a ban, setting the stage for a global regulatory battle over the future of the social media platform.”
These are things we have dealt with for years here at Gab. Last summer the German government demanded we censor content on Gab. Will Elon respond ?
Regardless of what Elon does with Twitter I will be waking up tomorrow and doing the same thing I have been doing for the past six years of my life: building Gab. As long as I’m alive I’ll be building parallel Christian systems and internet infrastructure to defend the Gospel, my family, and our God-given right to speak freely. I’ll also be giving all the glory to God while doing so.
Gab’s vision and mission are simple: we are building a Parallel Economy to defend Christian values, free speech, free thought, and the free flow of information online.
We hope you’ll .
Andrew Torba
CEO, Gab.com
Jesus Christ is King of Kings
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Grow your business, political campaign, non-profit, and more with??
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Re: Gab Responds: Elon Buys Twitter, Now What?
that guy sounds like an anti-semitic lunatic
On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:39 AM, Dan Buck <vertpurple@...> wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ---------
Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 7:18 AM
Subject: Gab Responds: Elon Buys Twitter, Now What?
Many people have been asking me what I think about Elon Musk purchasing Twitter for $44 billion dollars. In this letter I’m going to tell you what this means for Gab and provide my analysis of the situation as someone who has been trailblazing free speech infrastructure on the internet for nearly six years.
Tonight I am going to sleep as Peter did in Acts chapter 12 the night before his execution. For those of you who don’t know the story, I probably sound crazy, but if you read your Bible you’ll see that in Acts 12 Peter is miraculously freed from jail where an angel found him sleeping like a baby.
On the surface Acts 12 looks like the story of Peter’s miraculous escape from prison. If you look a little deeper you’ll see that it is actually about Peter’s miraculous transformation from the man who denied Jesus three times to a man with enough faith to sleep like a baby the night before his scheduled execution.
Peter was sleeping so peacefully and deeply while being chained to the arms of two guards in jail that when an angel appeared he thought he was dreaming or having a vision in the fog of waking up from a deep sleep.
Then Peter came to himself and said, “Now I know without a doubt that the Lord has sent his angel and rescued me from Herod’s clutches and from everything the Jewish people were hoping would happen." Acts 12:11
This is the faith that I have in this moment.
A moment where our enemies are saying “Gab is surely dead now” for the 1000th time in six years.
It’s the same faith I had when Gab was reduced to a pile of ash in the fall of 2018 and we lost everything. We were banned from hosting providers, payment processors, and my CTO quit all within roughly 72 hours. The website was offline for six days, but on day seven the site was resurrected by the grace of God and by the incredible determination of one brave engineer who didn’t sleep for a week.
It is from that pile of ash that I watched God grow Gab into the single most resilient alternative to Big Tech with a community of tens of millions of people that it is today.
As Christians, we are blessed to witness the Resurrection Power of Jesus Christ in our lives. We watch in awe as He takes things that are dead and raises them back to life.
Jesus Christ turns tragedy into testimony.
Gab is my testimony.
Unlike Mr. Musk I don’t answer to anyone outside of God almighty, especially not moneychangers.
Just a few days ago Morgan Stanley was praising Elon’s Boring Company . A few weeks before that they were . Morgan Stanley owns 3.7 million Tesla shares equal to about $3.9 billion in value so it should come as no surprise to learn that they are backing Elon’s $44 billion Twitter takeover and praising every company Elon runs.
Many people wrongfully believe that Elon pulled $44 billion out of his bank account and bought Twitter, but that’s not how any of this works. Elon’s moneychanger friends . The moneychangers don’t just throw around $20 billion for no reason.
So who really bought Twitter and who will really be in control? God only knows.
What I know for certain is that I fully control Gab as its supermajority shareholder and sole Board member.
You can learn more
Elon can have Twitter.
People falsely assume that Gab is a “Twitter knockoff,” but this hasn’t been the case for several years. Functionally Gab is more like Facebook. We have Gab Groups, Gab Marketplace, Gab News, Gab TV, GabPay, and much more on the way. We aren’t and haven’t been competing with Twitter for years. Facebook users are our core target market.
We quickly realized back in 2019 that the vast majority of people in the United States are simply not on Twitter. The first issue is that over half of Twitter’s . The other half are , but let’s be honest these people are basically robots too.
The bottom line is these aren’t our people. This isn’t our target market. The majority of people who remain on Twitter today will never use Gab because they will never survive in an environment with true free speech. There is finite number of conservative Twitter users who will make the switch, but tens of millions of Christian Facebook users who want off of Zuckerberg’s demonic plantation.
If anyone is doomed by Elon Musk buying Twitter it’s Parler, Gettr, and Truth Social.
The entire value proposition of Parler, Gettr, and Truth Social was being “not Twitter.” None of them even offer a free speech Terms of Service. In Parler’s case, they and started censoring to get back on the App Store. In Gettr’s case, they ruined their reputation on day one by . Truth Social is a disaster that uses . Its main attraction–President Donald Trump–.
I predict that Elon Musk buying Twitter will force the left to balkanize into niche platforms of shared values like the right has. We will see the Gab, Parler, and Gettr of the left pop up. I’ve been talking about the into smaller niche communities for several years now and things are about to accelerate in this area. That’s a good thing. It means Silicon Valley is losing power and fast.
that Twitter’s source code has now been locked down to make it harder for current employees to make unauthorized changes to the platform. This tells us that Twitter’s Board recognizes the total and complete internal meltdown that is happening right now.
We’ve seen rogue employees and contractors at Twitter before. Remember the time a random contractor, not even an employee, ? Or how about the former Twitter employees who ?
Elon now has to deal with 7,500 far-left Twitter employees and I sincerely wish him all the best in absolutely clearing house and starting from scratch by firing every last one of the existing employees. Needless to say, this won’t be an easy task, nor will be upending Twitter’s policies and technology.
Aside from the internal war and struggle that Elon is about to endure at Twitter he will also face a variety of external attacks from the media, the government, the ADL, and Big Tech giants like Apple and Google who control Twitter’s distribution destiny on the app stores.
Apple’s market cap is 2.7 trillion dollars. Don’t think for one second they won’t ban a $44 billion dollar app like Twitter from their app stores. Fortnite is owned by a $28 billion dollar video game giant and was the most popular video game in the world at the time, but that didn’t stop Apple from without blinking. It won’t stop them from banning Twitter either.
The media will give Elon the Trump treatment and call him a “racist bigot nazi white supremacist hater.” They will go after all of his other businesses. There will be leaks from Twitter employees to the press constantly. The ADL and SPLC will create bogus “studies” to show how “toxic” and “harmful” Twitter is and then feed that to the press.
Today the Biden administration said they would support “reforming Section 230, enacting anti-trust reforms,” and “requiring more transparency” on social media to combat COVID-19 “misinformation.” So now Elon will have to deal with regulators, lawmakers, and the Executive branch.
Then there is the fact that Twitter is totally and completely dependent on third-party infrastructure. They will be attacked at every level of the tech stack from DNS, to hosting providers, app stores, email services, and more. Some of the top investors in Silicon Valley are , as if to say they already have these wheels in motion! Gab overcame and rebuilt from absolutely nothing through all of these hurdles. Will Twitter be able to do so at their scale and at what cost?
When Twitter gets banned from half a dozen banks, Visa, app stores, hosting providers, email services, and more they can get on our level with free speech.
Almost two weeks ago in my offer letter to Elon, I said this: “Twitter operates in countries where mass censorship is required by law. They have offices in these countries. They have no choice but to comply with the censorship demands of those countries or risk being shut down, fines, etc.”
Today the Financial Times is reporting that “Brussels has warned Elon Musk that Twitter must comply with the EU’s new digital rules under his ownership, or risk hefty fines or even a ban, setting the stage for a global regulatory battle over the future of the social media platform.”
These are things we have dealt with for years here at Gab. Last summer the German government demanded we censor content on Gab. Will Elon respond ?
Regardless of what Elon does with Twitter I will be waking up tomorrow and doing the same thing I have been doing for the past six years of my life: building Gab. As long as I’m alive I’ll be building parallel Christian systems and internet infrastructure to defend the Gospel, my family, and our God-given right to speak freely. I’ll also be giving all the glory to God while doing so.
Gab’s vision and mission are simple: we are building a Parallel Economy to defend Christian values, free speech, free thought, and the free flow of information online.
We hope you’ll .
Andrew Torba
CEO, Gab.com
Jesus Christ is King of Kings
?
?
?
?
Join The Parallal Economy on Gab?
Grow your business, political campaign, non-profit, and more with??
Reach tens of millions of people who share your values.?
?
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to support the Parallel Economy and unlock additional features on Gab!
Spend $100 get $100 free on Gab Ads
Purchase your first $100 in Gab Ad credits and get an additional $100 in?free bonus credits added to your account automatically.?
Here is a helpful .?
To claim your $100 bonus credit?simply click the Add Funds button in the top right of the dashboard and purchase $100 or more in credits. The bonus $100 will be automatically added to your account after you complete the transaction. If you have any questions about advertising on Gab please reach out to our ads team here:? ads@...?
As a reminder the??is also an excellent option for small business owners or newly started businesses who do not have advertising budgets yet.??
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I feel like there's something in here for Joe Steinberger
Something that will make him go, 'YES! Holy shit. That's great. I'm going to do that."
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Gab Responds: Elon Buys Twitter, Now What?
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: ? Gab News <GabNews@...>Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 7:18 AM Subject: Gab Responds: Elon Buys Twitter, Now What? To: < vertpurple@...> Many people have been asking me what I think about Elon Musk purchasing Twitter for $44 billion dollars. In this letter I’m going to tell you what this means for Gab and provide my analysis of the situation as someone who has been trailblazing free speech infrastructure on the internet for nearly six years.
Tonight I am going to sleep as Peter did in Acts chapter 12 the night before his execution. For those of you who don’t know the story, I probably sound crazy, but if you read your Bible you’ll see that in Acts 12 Peter is miraculously freed from jail where an angel found him sleeping like a baby.
On the surface Acts 12 looks like the story of Peter’s miraculous escape from prison. If you look a little deeper you’ll see that it is actually about Peter’s miraculous transformation from the man who denied Jesus three times to a man with enough faith to sleep like a baby the night before his scheduled execution.
Peter was sleeping so peacefully and deeply while being chained to the arms of two guards in jail that when an angel appeared he thought he was dreaming or having a vision in the fog of waking up from a deep sleep.
Then Peter came to himself and said, “Now I know without a doubt that the Lord has sent his angel and rescued me from Herod’s clutches and from everything the Jewish people were hoping would happen." Acts 12:11
This is the faith that I have in this moment.
A moment where our enemies are saying “Gab is surely dead now” for the 1000th time in six years.
It’s the same faith I had when Gab was reduced to a pile of ash in the fall of 2018 and we lost everything. We were banned from hosting providers, payment processors, and my CTO quit all within roughly 72 hours. The website was offline for six days, but on day seven the site was resurrected by the grace of God and by the incredible determination of one brave engineer who didn’t sleep for a week.
It is from that pile of ash that I watched God grow Gab into the single most resilient alternative to Big Tech with a community of tens of millions of people that it is today.
As Christians, we are blessed to witness the Resurrection Power of Jesus Christ in our lives. We watch in awe as He takes things that are dead and raises them back to life.
Jesus Christ turns tragedy into testimony.
Gab is my testimony.
Unlike Mr. Musk I don’t answer to anyone outside of God almighty, especially not moneychangers.
Just a few days ago Morgan Stanley was praising Elon’s Boring Company . A few weeks before that they were . Morgan Stanley owns 3.7 million Tesla shares equal to about $3.9 billion in value so it should come as no surprise to learn that they are backing Elon’s $44 billion Twitter takeover and praising every company Elon runs.
Many people wrongfully believe that Elon pulled $44 billion out of his bank account and bought Twitter, but that’s not how any of this works. Elon’s moneychanger friends . The moneychangers don’t just throw around $20 billion for no reason.
So who really bought Twitter and who will really be in control? God only knows.
What I know for certain is that I fully control Gab as its supermajority shareholder and sole Board member.
You can learn more
Elon can have Twitter.
People falsely assume that Gab is a “Twitter knockoff,” but this hasn’t been the case for several years. Functionally Gab is more like Facebook. We have Gab Groups, Gab Marketplace, Gab News, Gab TV, GabPay, and much more on the way. We aren’t and haven’t been competing with Twitter for years. Facebook users are our core target market.
We quickly realized back in 2019 that the vast majority of people in the United States are simply not on Twitter. The first issue is that over half of Twitter’s . The other half are , but let’s be honest these people are basically robots too.
The bottom line is these aren’t our people. This isn’t our target market. The majority of people who remain on Twitter today will never use Gab because they will never survive in an environment with true free speech. There is finite number of conservative Twitter users who will make the switch, but tens of millions of Christian Facebook users who want off of Zuckerberg’s demonic plantation.
If anyone is doomed by Elon Musk buying Twitter it’s Parler, Gettr, and Truth Social.
The entire value proposition of Parler, Gettr, and Truth Social was being “not Twitter.” None of them even offer a free speech Terms of Service. In Parler’s case, they and started censoring to get back on the App Store. In Gettr’s case, they ruined their reputation on day one by . Truth Social is a disaster that uses . Its main attraction–President Donald Trump–.
I predict that Elon Musk buying Twitter will force the left to balkanize into niche platforms of shared values like the right has. We will see the Gab, Parler, and Gettr of the left pop up. I’ve been talking about the into smaller niche communities for several years now and things are about to accelerate in this area. That’s a good thing. It means Silicon Valley is losing power and fast.
that Twitter’s source code has now been locked down to make it harder for current employees to make unauthorized changes to the platform. This tells us that Twitter’s Board recognizes the total and complete internal meltdown that is happening right now.
We’ve seen rogue employees and contractors at Twitter before. Remember the time a random contractor, not even an employee, ? Or how about the former Twitter employees who ?
Elon now has to deal with 7,500 far-left Twitter employees and I sincerely wish him all the best in absolutely clearing house and starting from scratch by firing every last one of the existing employees. Needless to say, this won’t be an easy task, nor will be upending Twitter’s policies and technology.
Aside from the internal war and struggle that Elon is about to endure at Twitter he will also face a variety of external attacks from the media, the government, the ADL, and Big Tech giants like Apple and Google who control Twitter’s distribution destiny on the app stores.
Apple’s market cap is 2.7 trillion dollars. Don’t think for one second they won’t ban a $44 billion dollar app like Twitter from their app stores. Fortnite is owned by a $28 billion dollar video game giant and was the most popular video game in the world at the time, but that didn’t stop Apple from without blinking. It won’t stop them from banning Twitter either.
The media will give Elon the Trump treatment and call him a “racist bigot nazi white supremacist hater.” They will go after all of his other businesses. There will be leaks from Twitter employees to the press constantly. The ADL and SPLC will create bogus “studies” to show how “toxic” and “harmful” Twitter is and then feed that to the press.
Today the Biden administration said they would support “reforming Section 230, enacting anti-trust reforms,” and “requiring more transparency” on social media to combat COVID-19 “misinformation.” So now Elon will have to deal with regulators, lawmakers, and the Executive branch.
Then there is the fact that Twitter is totally and completely dependent on third-party infrastructure. They will be attacked at every level of the tech stack from DNS, to hosting providers, app stores, email services, and more. Some of the top investors in Silicon Valley are , as if to say they already have these wheels in motion! Gab overcame and rebuilt from absolutely nothing through all of these hurdles. Will Twitter be able to do so at their scale and at what cost?
When Twitter gets banned from half a dozen banks, Visa, app stores, hosting providers, email services, and more they can get on our level with free speech.
Almost two weeks ago in my offer letter to Elon, I said this: “Twitter operates in countries where mass censorship is required by law. They have offices in these countries. They have no choice but to comply with the censorship demands of those countries or risk being shut down, fines, etc.”
Today the Financial Times is reporting that “Brussels has warned Elon Musk that Twitter must comply with the EU’s new digital rules under his ownership, or risk hefty fines or even a ban, setting the stage for a global regulatory battle over the future of the social media platform.”
These are things we have dealt with for years here at Gab. Last summer the German government demanded we censor content on Gab. Will Elon respond ?
Regardless of what Elon does with Twitter I will be waking up tomorrow and doing the same thing I have been doing for the past six years of my life: building Gab. As long as I’m alive I’ll be building parallel Christian systems and internet infrastructure to defend the Gospel, my family, and our God-given right to speak freely. I’ll also be giving all the glory to God while doing so.
Gab’s vision and mission are simple: we are building a Parallel Economy to defend Christian values, free speech, free thought, and the free flow of information online.
We hope you’ll .
Andrew Torba
CEO, Gab.com
Jesus Christ is King of Kings
?
?
?
?
Join The Parallal Economy on Gab?
Grow your business, political campaign, non-profit, and more with??
Reach tens of millions of people who share your values.?
?
?
to support the Parallel Economy and unlock additional features on Gab!
Spend $100 get $100 free on Gab Ads
Purchase your first $100 in Gab Ad credits and get an additional $100 in?free bonus credits added to your account automatically.?
Here is a helpful .?
To claim your $100 bonus credit?simply click the Add Funds button in the top right of the dashboard and purchase $100 or more in credits. The bonus $100 will be automatically added to your account after you complete the transaction. If you have any questions about advertising on Gab please reach out to our ads team here:?ads@...?
As a reminder the??is also an excellent option for small business owners or newly started businesses who do not have advertising budgets yet.??
Thank you for being part of the Parallel Economy on Gab!
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Re: Right in the sweet spot
same here as far as watching every week.? generally thought Lizzo did a great job hosting and performing.
On Apr 22, 2022, at 3:18 AM, Dan Buck <vertpurple@...> wrote:
I think we've been watching Saturday night live religiously for the past like 8 years or so.??
This is the first sketch I can think of that speaks directly to me. I think I could have written it myself and maybe even a little better.
It was totally out of the blue and it was about the Black eyed peas
Fuck them
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I think we've been watching Saturday night live religiously for the past like 8 years or so.??
This is the first sketch I can think of that speaks directly to me. I think I could have written it myself and maybe even a little better.
It was totally out of the blue and it was about the Black eyed peas
Fuck them
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Dave, we could be talking about language or we could be talking about interior design. Hard to tell.?
Rich, I can’t wait for that breech bday. 100-% I will be there.?
On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 11:45 PM David E. Ford Jr. < ottoemezz@...> wrote: i like the part where they talk about?floating furniture. maybe that's what a den is, the room where the gravity is lower so the furniture can float. so this is really a discussion about language right? like, we have to have a name for everything so when there's something inconveniently unnamed, like a pass through space, it must be given a name and reified.?
will one of you send pics of your floating furniture?
Did any of you grow up with a den in your house? Only because I have kids and because I've never heard the word again have I started appreciating what it really meant. I know my parents are on the old side.
I find this pretty fascinating.
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i like the part where they talk about?floating furniture. maybe that's what a den is, the room where the gravity is lower so the furniture can float. so this is really a discussion about language right? like, we have to have a name for everything so when there's something inconveniently unnamed, like a pass through space, it must be given a name and reified.?
will one of you send pics of your floating furniture?
Did any of you grow up with a den in your house? Only because I have kids and because I've never heard the word again have I started appreciating what it really meant. I know my parents are on the old side.
I find this pretty fascinating.
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Our house growing up on the first floor had a dining room, family room, living room and a den/library. I think nowadays we would make it an office.?
Speaking of music I've started listening to Breech lately. Maybe for my 50th I throw myself a party and pay for Missy to perform.?
On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 7:21 PM, Todd Rhoads <todd@...> wrote: in PG County, growing up when we did, one would be more likely to encounter a crack den. not that there's anything wrong with that.?
In our house we had a "living room" with couches/chair and TV, and then parents smartly had added as an addition a sorely needed (with 4 kids) bigger room, "the family room." to me, a den suggests kinda smaller and closed-off/kinda hidden, not open - that article contradicts itself on that.
we have an extra little "nook" in our condo, which is useful, definitely a lot smaller than a den though. as a purported socialist, i'd argue that those who have extra little rooms such as dens (hmm, Steinberger, Matte) are taking up more than fair share of space and should be jostled up a bit in the revolution. but if somebody offered me a den i'd definitely opt to keep it.? Did any of you grow up with a den in your house? Only because I have kids and because I've never heard the word again have I started appreciating what it really meant. I know my parents are on the old side.
I find this pretty fascinating.
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in PG County, growing up when we did, one would be more likely to encounter a crack den. not that there's anything wrong with that.?
In our house we had a "living room" with couches/chair and TV, and then parents smartly had added as an addition a sorely needed (with 4 kids) bigger room, "the family room." to me, a den suggests kinda smaller and closed-off/kinda hidden, not open - that article contradicts itself on that.
we have an extra little "nook" in our condo, which is useful, definitely a lot smaller than a den though. as a purported socialist, i'd argue that those who have extra little rooms such as dens (hmm, Steinberger, Matte) are taking up more than fair share of space and should be jostled up a bit in the revolution. but if somebody offered me a den i'd definitely opt to keep it.?
Did any of you grow up with a den in your house? Only because I have kids and because I've never heard the word again have I started appreciating what it really meant. I know my parents are on the old side.
I find this pretty fascinating.
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The breadth of things you think about is impressive.? I'm not quite with you?on "fascinating" but I do remember dens and then not hearing about dens.
Here's something I really like.? The music.? I wish I could get more than 11 seconds.??
"We were fucking talking about dens.? Can we stick to dens."
Did any of you grow up with a den in your house? Only because I have kids and because I've never heard the word again have I started appreciating what it really meant. I know my parents are on the old side.
I find this pretty fascinating.
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Did any of you grow up with a den in your house? Only because I have kids and because I've never heard the word again have I started appreciating what it really meant. I know my parents are on the old side.
I find this pretty fascinating.
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this warrants a new thread
i have been lowkey working on something for the last week or so, like a creative project. the way it seems to be shaking out is as a kind of spaulding gray-esque spoken word bit that i am tentatively calling pathao and the unspeakable now. it's gone far enough that i saw a place advertised an open mic tonight and i went by to see if it might be an appropriate venue but?they seemed to be shutting the place down at a little after 8pm. pathao, by the way, is a ride share app developed in bangladesh and used there and in nepal that offers a choice of like, uber-style pickup in someone's passenger car, or riding pillion on someone's motorcycle, which is a LOT cheaper
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it's also worth mentioning pertinent to other discussions that it's the part of me that is well described by the highly sensitive person book that really influenced this decision
I've shared with a few of you that I think addresses this, in a way.??
I am really sorry that you felt like that. I have made various overweight friends and acquaintances over the years and my lack of sexual interest hasn't been evident, I haven't offended anyone. I can't imagine I would have made her feel bad or insecure about herself, unless you had already told her, 'Dan is a superficial dick'
My own wife's figure is not perfect and, weight will add and add and add and I am ready for this in every way.
On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 5:11 AM David E. Ford Jr. < ottoemezz@...> wrote: yes, as steinberger said, it was the reason. it's weird because i don't have personal self-consciousness stemming from the people around me, so like, if people think my partner is fat or whatever, i really couldn't care less. i suppose in the case of becca, i felt very protective of her, because i understand a lot of her neuroses. but like, at the end of the day, i have my prejudices, so it's not like i can come down on others because they happen to have different prejudices. but i do try to find opportunities, as here, for examining my own habits and prejudices as well as those i find in the people around me.?
On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 4:32 AM Joe Steinberger < joe@...> wrote: Dan, I think it’s worth noting that Dave called this THE reason, one “one of the reasons”.?
That’s too bad, Dave. Once in a while it will occur to me to suggest no one mention something such as that, but then I realize that strategy will most likely backfire unfortunately.?
Also, right now I am strongly suppressing the desire to make a body joke. Not sure if I have succeeded.?
Interesting. I'm really sorry that was one of the reasons.?
On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 12:59 PM David E. Ford Jr. < ottoemezz@...> wrote: since matte introduced the whole question of moral peculiarities of this particular exchange, i am going to share something?with total honesty. but, i want to make clear that i am doing this only to provide an opportunity for us to examine some of the habitual ways we think and talk about the world. there are no bad feelings underpinning this and i harbor none for anyone?about anything. having said that, the reason that you never met becca, who was my partner for nearly five years, is because i know the ways in which you sometimes talk about women's bodies and i also know something of the lifetime of insecurities she's had around her own body and the devastating repercussions that can have.
On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 6:29 PM David E. Ford Jr. < ottoemezz@...> wrote: the irony of someone?talking about a woman "owning" or having confidence in their weight/body image in the middle of this particular thread is perhaps the choicest bit for me
On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 1:27 AM David Doga < oyeguey@...> wrote:
I think some girls are cuter with a little weight and girls that own it? , have confidence that I find sexy too.
Just my thoughts.?
I mean, I consider you all my 'sounding board.' I can tell you: "I'm attracted to black people more than Asian people." I wouldn't tell this to other people.
One positive way to think of it...for many years...decades....like this was in "One Floor" I've obsessed over the pathway for young, pretty people to become fat and gross (to me personally). I think I can look at a pretty 20 year old and go...'Hmmh, how
will she probably look when she is 40 or 50. Yeah, probably like that. Gross."
Now I'm bald and pretty gross. Even a little fat. And I'm ok with that. It's reality.
I'm now able to look at a woman like this, my boss, and go, "You know, I can picture
?(Jill Wiseman) thin and hot like 20 years ago." I told Sandra that almost verbatim because she is working at my school as well.?
My idea of the 'haunted house strip club,' as David Ford saw, isn't totally true. I don't really believe it would be viable. I find it funny. But at its heart I think I would pay money for that if society allowed me to.
Dan Buck
We stream news for kids
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 1:06 PM Todd Rhoads < todd@...> wrote:
Are you just now starting to come to terms with and awakening to the often transgressive and parasocial musings of Dan buck? At least he's pretty honest about that kind of thing. I think you're also asking how self-aware he is in that more offensive
formulations, I think, usually somewhat. Of course also somewhat sociopathic, but also somewhat self-aware. Irony? Probably less of that, than just some raw honesty; could definitely use a lot more of a desire and design to try to push back against some of
our most base impulses and opinions. But then, that would be a lot less interesting, then, wouldn't it.?
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022, 9:56 AM Matte < matte@...> wrote:
I know that I’m at the periphery of this group. So I’m responding here fully aware that I'm at risk of antagonizing people, exposing that I am oblivious to the spirit of this group,? and?inviting ostracism.
But should I read messages like these as an ironic satire of a particular type of middle-aged man? Or is this sincere?
You know, maybe if I was single, I'd be ok dating a 25 year old who is fat, but hot.
There's a woman at my school who is 28 and I really thought she was fat because she had a baby. Cute, hot, friendly, loving. Nope. No baby. Just fat. Not huge. But I'd be ok with that.
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Try out these two newer ones:
(it's worth it when you get to the end..slow build up)
On Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 12:14 PM David E. Ford Jr. < ottoemezz@...> wrote: p.s. i'm listening to depeche mode violator as i write these emails
On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 10:58 PM David E. Ford Jr. < ottoemezz@...> wrote: like, we've been friends for 35 years now. it would be weird and frankly unfair to start getting?mad about things like this now
On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 10:51 PM David E. Ford Jr. via <ottoemezz= [email protected]> wrote: nah, it's weird, it's not like that. i have no doubt whatsoever that you would have treated becca very well and she would not have felt at all uncomfortable. it's not that at all. it is much more personal. like, as i say, i feel very protective of becca, even now, as i do of everyone i am intimate with. and with her it's one of those things, body image, i mean, she still hasn't figured it out and it has been and continues to be very difficult for her. and i guess there was something in the conjunction of how serious the issue is for her and how strong was my inclination to protect her or help her, along with my deep familiarity with dan's habitual manner of speaking about women's bodies. like somehow in my own mind it felt the more appropriate path to keep the worlds separate (i knew by the time it was a possibility for you to meet that ours wasn't going to be a permanent situation). so yeah, it's nothing like that. i obviously know that you would be a human to anyone i introduced you to. and again, i stress there are no hard feelings here, and you should feel no need to apologize. it was just an extremely personal choice i made. and it never would have come up except for the turn this thread took.
I've shared with a few of you that I think addresses this, in a way.??
I am really sorry that you felt like that. I have made various overweight friends and acquaintances over the years and my lack of sexual interest hasn't been evident, I haven't offended anyone. I can't imagine I would have made her feel bad or insecure about herself, unless you had already told her, 'Dan is a superficial dick'
My own wife's figure is not perfect and, weight will add and add and add and I am ready for this in every way.
On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 5:11 AM David E. Ford Jr. < ottoemezz@...> wrote: yes, as steinberger said, it was the reason. it's weird because i don't have personal self-consciousness stemming from the people around me, so like, if people think my partner is fat or whatever, i really couldn't care less. i suppose in the case of becca, i felt very protective of her, because i understand a lot of her neuroses. but like, at the end of the day, i have my prejudices, so it's not like i can come down on others because they happen to have different prejudices. but i do try to find opportunities, as here, for examining my own habits and prejudices as well as those i find in the people around me.?
On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 4:32 AM Joe Steinberger < joe@...> wrote: Dan, I think it’s worth noting that Dave called this THE reason, one “one of the reasons”.?
That’s too bad, Dave. Once in a while it will occur to me to suggest no one mention something such as that, but then I realize that strategy will most likely backfire unfortunately.?
Also, right now I am strongly suppressing the desire to make a body joke. Not sure if I have succeeded.?
Interesting. I'm really sorry that was one of the reasons.?
On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 12:59 PM David E. Ford Jr. < ottoemezz@...> wrote: since matte introduced the whole question of moral peculiarities of this particular exchange, i am going to share something?with total honesty. but, i want to make clear that i am doing this only to provide an opportunity for us to examine some of the habitual ways we think and talk about the world. there are no bad feelings underpinning this and i harbor none for anyone?about anything. having said that, the reason that you never met becca, who was my partner for nearly five years, is because i know the ways in which you sometimes talk about women's bodies and i also know something of the lifetime of insecurities she's had around her own body and the devastating repercussions that can have.
On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 6:29 PM David E. Ford Jr. < ottoemezz@...> wrote: the irony of someone?talking about a woman "owning" or having confidence in their weight/body image in the middle of this particular thread is perhaps the choicest bit for me
On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 1:27 AM David Doga < oyeguey@...> wrote:
I think some girls are cuter with a little weight and girls that own it? , have confidence that I find sexy too.
Just my thoughts.?
I mean, I consider you all my 'sounding board.' I can tell you: "I'm attracted to black people more than Asian people." I wouldn't tell this to other people.
One positive way to think of it...for many years...decades....like this was in "One Floor" I've obsessed over the pathway for young, pretty people to become fat and gross (to me personally). I think I can look at a pretty 20 year old and go...'Hmmh, how
will she probably look when she is 40 or 50. Yeah, probably like that. Gross."
Now I'm bald and pretty gross. Even a little fat. And I'm ok with that. It's reality.
I'm now able to look at a woman like this, my boss, and go, "You know, I can picture
?(Jill Wiseman) thin and hot like 20 years ago." I told Sandra that almost verbatim because she is working at my school as well.?
My idea of the 'haunted house strip club,' as David Ford saw, isn't totally true. I don't really believe it would be viable. I find it funny. But at its heart I think I would pay money for that if society allowed me to.
Dan Buck
We stream news for kids
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 1:06 PM Todd Rhoads < todd@...> wrote:
Are you just now starting to come to terms with and awakening to the often transgressive and parasocial musings of Dan buck? At least he's pretty honest about that kind of thing. I think you're also asking how self-aware he is in that more offensive
formulations, I think, usually somewhat. Of course also somewhat sociopathic, but also somewhat self-aware. Irony? Probably less of that, than just some raw honesty; could definitely use a lot more of a desire and design to try to push back against some of
our most base impulses and opinions. But then, that would be a lot less interesting, then, wouldn't it.?
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022, 9:56 AM Matte < matte@...> wrote:
I know that I’m at the periphery of this group. So I’m responding here fully aware that I'm at risk of antagonizing people, exposing that I am oblivious to the spirit of this group,? and?inviting ostracism.
But should I read messages like these as an ironic satire of a particular type of middle-aged man? Or is this sincere?
You know, maybe if I was single, I'd be ok dating a 25 year old who is fat, but hot.
There's a woman at my school who is 28 and I really thought she was fat because she had a baby. Cute, hot, friendly, loving. Nope. No baby. Just fat. Not huge. But I'd be ok with that.
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p.s. i'm listening to depeche mode violator as i write these emails
On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 10:58 PM David E. Ford Jr. < ottoemezz@...> wrote: like, we've been friends for 35 years now. it would be weird and frankly unfair to start getting?mad about things like this now
On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 10:51 PM David E. Ford Jr. via <ottoemezz= [email protected]> wrote: nah, it's weird, it's not like that. i have no doubt whatsoever that you would have treated becca very well and she would not have felt at all uncomfortable. it's not that at all. it is much more personal. like, as i say, i feel very protective of becca, even now, as i do of everyone i am intimate with. and with her it's one of those things, body image, i mean, she still hasn't figured it out and it has been and continues to be very difficult for her. and i guess there was something in the conjunction of how serious the issue is for her and how strong was my inclination to protect her or help her, along with my deep familiarity with dan's habitual manner of speaking about women's bodies. like somehow in my own mind it felt the more appropriate path to keep the worlds separate (i knew by the time it was a possibility for you to meet that ours wasn't going to be a permanent situation). so yeah, it's nothing like that. i obviously know that you would be a human to anyone i introduced you to. and again, i stress there are no hard feelings here, and you should feel no need to apologize. it was just an extremely personal choice i made. and it never would have come up except for the turn this thread took.
I've shared with a few of you that I think addresses this, in a way.??
I am really sorry that you felt like that. I have made various overweight friends and acquaintances over the years and my lack of sexual interest hasn't been evident, I haven't offended anyone. I can't imagine I would have made her feel bad or insecure about herself, unless you had already told her, 'Dan is a superficial dick'
My own wife's figure is not perfect and, weight will add and add and add and I am ready for this in every way.
On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 5:11 AM David E. Ford Jr. < ottoemezz@...> wrote: yes, as steinberger said, it was the reason. it's weird because i don't have personal self-consciousness stemming from the people around me, so like, if people think my partner is fat or whatever, i really couldn't care less. i suppose in the case of becca, i felt very protective of her, because i understand a lot of her neuroses. but like, at the end of the day, i have my prejudices, so it's not like i can come down on others because they happen to have different prejudices. but i do try to find opportunities, as here, for examining my own habits and prejudices as well as those i find in the people around me.?
On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 4:32 AM Joe Steinberger < joe@...> wrote: Dan, I think it’s worth noting that Dave called this THE reason, one “one of the reasons”.?
That’s too bad, Dave. Once in a while it will occur to me to suggest no one mention something such as that, but then I realize that strategy will most likely backfire unfortunately.?
Also, right now I am strongly suppressing the desire to make a body joke. Not sure if I have succeeded.?
Interesting. I'm really sorry that was one of the reasons.?
On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 12:59 PM David E. Ford Jr. < ottoemezz@...> wrote: since matte introduced the whole question of moral peculiarities of this particular exchange, i am going to share something?with total honesty. but, i want to make clear that i am doing this only to provide an opportunity for us to examine some of the habitual ways we think and talk about the world. there are no bad feelings underpinning this and i harbor none for anyone?about anything. having said that, the reason that you never met becca, who was my partner for nearly five years, is because i know the ways in which you sometimes talk about women's bodies and i also know something of the lifetime of insecurities she's had around her own body and the devastating repercussions that can have.
On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 6:29 PM David E. Ford Jr. < ottoemezz@...> wrote: the irony of someone?talking about a woman "owning" or having confidence in their weight/body image in the middle of this particular thread is perhaps the choicest bit for me
On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 1:27 AM David Doga < oyeguey@...> wrote:
I think some girls are cuter with a little weight and girls that own it? , have confidence that I find sexy too.
Just my thoughts.?
I mean, I consider you all my 'sounding board.' I can tell you: "I'm attracted to black people more than Asian people." I wouldn't tell this to other people.
One positive way to think of it...for many years...decades....like this was in "One Floor" I've obsessed over the pathway for young, pretty people to become fat and gross (to me personally). I think I can look at a pretty 20 year old and go...'Hmmh, how
will she probably look when she is 40 or 50. Yeah, probably like that. Gross."
Now I'm bald and pretty gross. Even a little fat. And I'm ok with that. It's reality.
I'm now able to look at a woman like this, my boss, and go, "You know, I can picture
?(Jill Wiseman) thin and hot like 20 years ago." I told Sandra that almost verbatim because she is working at my school as well.?
My idea of the 'haunted house strip club,' as David Ford saw, isn't totally true. I don't really believe it would be viable. I find it funny. But at its heart I think I would pay money for that if society allowed me to.
Dan Buck
We stream news for kids
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 1:06 PM Todd Rhoads < todd@...> wrote:
Are you just now starting to come to terms with and awakening to the often transgressive and parasocial musings of Dan buck? At least he's pretty honest about that kind of thing. I think you're also asking how self-aware he is in that more offensive
formulations, I think, usually somewhat. Of course also somewhat sociopathic, but also somewhat self-aware. Irony? Probably less of that, than just some raw honesty; could definitely use a lot more of a desire and design to try to push back against some of
our most base impulses and opinions. But then, that would be a lot less interesting, then, wouldn't it.?
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022, 9:56 AM Matte < matte@...> wrote:
I know that I’m at the periphery of this group. So I’m responding here fully aware that I'm at risk of antagonizing people, exposing that I am oblivious to the spirit of this group,? and?inviting ostracism.
But should I read messages like these as an ironic satire of a particular type of middle-aged man? Or is this sincere?
You know, maybe if I was single, I'd be ok dating a 25 year old who is fat, but hot.
There's a woman at my school who is 28 and I really thought she was fat because she had a baby. Cute, hot, friendly, loving. Nope. No baby. Just fat. Not huge. But I'd be ok with that.
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like, we've been friends for 35 years now. it would be weird and frankly unfair to start getting?mad about things like this now
On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 10:51 PM David E. Ford Jr. via <ottoemezz= [email protected]> wrote: nah, it's weird, it's not like that. i have no doubt whatsoever that you would have treated becca very well and she would not have felt at all uncomfortable. it's not that at all. it is much more personal. like, as i say, i feel very protective of becca, even now, as i do of everyone i am intimate with. and with her it's one of those things, body image, i mean, she still hasn't figured it out and it has been and continues to be very difficult for her. and i guess there was something in the conjunction of how serious the issue is for her and how strong was my inclination to protect her or help her, along with my deep familiarity with dan's habitual manner of speaking about women's bodies. like somehow in my own mind it felt the more appropriate path to keep the worlds separate (i knew by the time it was a possibility for you to meet that ours wasn't going to be a permanent situation). so yeah, it's nothing like that. i obviously know that you would be a human to anyone i introduced you to. and again, i stress there are no hard feelings here, and you should feel no need to apologize. it was just an extremely personal choice i made. and it never would have come up except for the turn this thread took.
I've shared with a few of you that I think addresses this, in a way.??
I am really sorry that you felt like that. I have made various overweight friends and acquaintances over the years and my lack of sexual interest hasn't been evident, I haven't offended anyone. I can't imagine I would have made her feel bad or insecure about herself, unless you had already told her, 'Dan is a superficial dick'
My own wife's figure is not perfect and, weight will add and add and add and I am ready for this in every way.
On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 5:11 AM David E. Ford Jr. < ottoemezz@...> wrote: yes, as steinberger said, it was the reason. it's weird because i don't have personal self-consciousness stemming from the people around me, so like, if people think my partner is fat or whatever, i really couldn't care less. i suppose in the case of becca, i felt very protective of her, because i understand a lot of her neuroses. but like, at the end of the day, i have my prejudices, so it's not like i can come down on others because they happen to have different prejudices. but i do try to find opportunities, as here, for examining my own habits and prejudices as well as those i find in the people around me.?
On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 4:32 AM Joe Steinberger < joe@...> wrote: Dan, I think it’s worth noting that Dave called this THE reason, one “one of the reasons”.?
That’s too bad, Dave. Once in a while it will occur to me to suggest no one mention something such as that, but then I realize that strategy will most likely backfire unfortunately.?
Also, right now I am strongly suppressing the desire to make a body joke. Not sure if I have succeeded.?
Interesting. I'm really sorry that was one of the reasons.?
On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 12:59 PM David E. Ford Jr. < ottoemezz@...> wrote: since matte introduced the whole question of moral peculiarities of this particular exchange, i am going to share something?with total honesty. but, i want to make clear that i am doing this only to provide an opportunity for us to examine some of the habitual ways we think and talk about the world. there are no bad feelings underpinning this and i harbor none for anyone?about anything. having said that, the reason that you never met becca, who was my partner for nearly five years, is because i know the ways in which you sometimes talk about women's bodies and i also know something of the lifetime of insecurities she's had around her own body and the devastating repercussions that can have.
On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 6:29 PM David E. Ford Jr. < ottoemezz@...> wrote: the irony of someone?talking about a woman "owning" or having confidence in their weight/body image in the middle of this particular thread is perhaps the choicest bit for me
On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 1:27 AM David Doga < oyeguey@...> wrote:
I think some girls are cuter with a little weight and girls that own it? , have confidence that I find sexy too.
Just my thoughts.?
I mean, I consider you all my 'sounding board.' I can tell you: "I'm attracted to black people more than Asian people." I wouldn't tell this to other people.
One positive way to think of it...for many years...decades....like this was in "One Floor" I've obsessed over the pathway for young, pretty people to become fat and gross (to me personally). I think I can look at a pretty 20 year old and go...'Hmmh, how
will she probably look when she is 40 or 50. Yeah, probably like that. Gross."
Now I'm bald and pretty gross. Even a little fat. And I'm ok with that. It's reality.
I'm now able to look at a woman like this, my boss, and go, "You know, I can picture
?(Jill Wiseman) thin and hot like 20 years ago." I told Sandra that almost verbatim because she is working at my school as well.?
My idea of the 'haunted house strip club,' as David Ford saw, isn't totally true. I don't really believe it would be viable. I find it funny. But at its heart I think I would pay money for that if society allowed me to.
Dan Buck
We stream news for kids
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 1:06 PM Todd Rhoads < todd@...> wrote:
Are you just now starting to come to terms with and awakening to the often transgressive and parasocial musings of Dan buck? At least he's pretty honest about that kind of thing. I think you're also asking how self-aware he is in that more offensive
formulations, I think, usually somewhat. Of course also somewhat sociopathic, but also somewhat self-aware. Irony? Probably less of that, than just some raw honesty; could definitely use a lot more of a desire and design to try to push back against some of
our most base impulses and opinions. But then, that would be a lot less interesting, then, wouldn't it.?
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022, 9:56 AM Matte < matte@...> wrote:
I know that I’m at the periphery of this group. So I’m responding here fully aware that I'm at risk of antagonizing people, exposing that I am oblivious to the spirit of this group,? and?inviting ostracism.
But should I read messages like these as an ironic satire of a particular type of middle-aged man? Or is this sincere?
You know, maybe if I was single, I'd be ok dating a 25 year old who is fat, but hot.
There's a woman at my school who is 28 and I really thought she was fat because she had a baby. Cute, hot, friendly, loving. Nope. No baby. Just fat. Not huge. But I'd be ok with that.
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nah, it's weird, it's not like that. i have no doubt whatsoever that you would have treated becca very well and she would not have felt at all uncomfortable. it's not that at all. it is much more personal. like, as i say, i feel very protective of becca, even now, as i do of everyone i am intimate with. and with her it's one of those things, body image, i mean, she still hasn't figured it out and it has been and continues to be very difficult for her. and i guess there was something in the conjunction of how serious the issue is for her and how strong was my inclination to protect her or help her, along with my deep familiarity with dan's habitual manner of speaking about women's bodies. like somehow in my own mind it felt the more appropriate path to keep the worlds separate (i knew by the time it was a possibility for you to meet that ours wasn't going to be a permanent situation). so yeah, it's nothing like that. i obviously know that you would be a human to anyone i introduced you to. and again, i stress there are no hard feelings here, and you should feel no need to apologize. it was just an extremely personal choice i made. and it never would have come up except for the turn this thread took.
I've shared with a few of you that I think addresses this, in a way.??
I am really sorry that you felt like that. I have made various overweight friends and acquaintances over the years and my lack of sexual interest hasn't been evident, I haven't offended anyone. I can't imagine I would have made her feel bad or insecure about herself, unless you had already told her, 'Dan is a superficial dick'
My own wife's figure is not perfect and, weight will add and add and add and I am ready for this in every way.
On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 5:11 AM David E. Ford Jr. < ottoemezz@...> wrote: yes, as steinberger said, it was the reason. it's weird because i don't have personal self-consciousness stemming from the people around me, so like, if people think my partner is fat or whatever, i really couldn't care less. i suppose in the case of becca, i felt very protective of her, because i understand a lot of her neuroses. but like, at the end of the day, i have my prejudices, so it's not like i can come down on others because they happen to have different prejudices. but i do try to find opportunities, as here, for examining my own habits and prejudices as well as those i find in the people around me.?
On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 4:32 AM Joe Steinberger < joe@...> wrote: Dan, I think it’s worth noting that Dave called this THE reason, one “one of the reasons”.?
That’s too bad, Dave. Once in a while it will occur to me to suggest no one mention something such as that, but then I realize that strategy will most likely backfire unfortunately.?
Also, right now I am strongly suppressing the desire to make a body joke. Not sure if I have succeeded.?
Interesting. I'm really sorry that was one of the reasons.?
On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 12:59 PM David E. Ford Jr. < ottoemezz@...> wrote: since matte introduced the whole question of moral peculiarities of this particular exchange, i am going to share something?with total honesty. but, i want to make clear that i am doing this only to provide an opportunity for us to examine some of the habitual ways we think and talk about the world. there are no bad feelings underpinning this and i harbor none for anyone?about anything. having said that, the reason that you never met becca, who was my partner for nearly five years, is because i know the ways in which you sometimes talk about women's bodies and i also know something of the lifetime of insecurities she's had around her own body and the devastating repercussions that can have.
On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 6:29 PM David E. Ford Jr. < ottoemezz@...> wrote: the irony of someone?talking about a woman "owning" or having confidence in their weight/body image in the middle of this particular thread is perhaps the choicest bit for me
On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 1:27 AM David Doga < oyeguey@...> wrote:
I think some girls are cuter with a little weight and girls that own it? , have confidence that I find sexy too.
Just my thoughts.?
I mean, I consider you all my 'sounding board.' I can tell you: "I'm attracted to black people more than Asian people." I wouldn't tell this to other people.
One positive way to think of it...for many years...decades....like this was in "One Floor" I've obsessed over the pathway for young, pretty people to become fat and gross (to me personally). I think I can look at a pretty 20 year old and go...'Hmmh, how
will she probably look when she is 40 or 50. Yeah, probably like that. Gross."
Now I'm bald and pretty gross. Even a little fat. And I'm ok with that. It's reality.
I'm now able to look at a woman like this, my boss, and go, "You know, I can picture
?(Jill Wiseman) thin and hot like 20 years ago." I told Sandra that almost verbatim because she is working at my school as well.?
My idea of the 'haunted house strip club,' as David Ford saw, isn't totally true. I don't really believe it would be viable. I find it funny. But at its heart I think I would pay money for that if society allowed me to.
Dan Buck
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On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 1:06 PM Todd Rhoads < todd@...> wrote:
Are you just now starting to come to terms with and awakening to the often transgressive and parasocial musings of Dan buck? At least he's pretty honest about that kind of thing. I think you're also asking how self-aware he is in that more offensive
formulations, I think, usually somewhat. Of course also somewhat sociopathic, but also somewhat self-aware. Irony? Probably less of that, than just some raw honesty; could definitely use a lot more of a desire and design to try to push back against some of
our most base impulses and opinions. But then, that would be a lot less interesting, then, wouldn't it.?
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022, 9:56 AM Matte < matte@...> wrote:
I know that I’m at the periphery of this group. So I’m responding here fully aware that I'm at risk of antagonizing people, exposing that I am oblivious to the spirit of this group,? and?inviting ostracism.
But should I read messages like these as an ironic satire of a particular type of middle-aged man? Or is this sincere?
You know, maybe if I was single, I'd be ok dating a 25 year old who is fat, but hot.
There's a woman at my school who is 28 and I really thought she was fat because she had a baby. Cute, hot, friendly, loving. Nope. No baby. Just fat. Not huge. But I'd be ok with that.
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I've shared with a few of you that I think addresses this, in a way.??
I am really sorry that you felt like that. I have made various overweight friends and acquaintances over the years and my lack of sexual interest hasn't been evident, I haven't offended anyone. I can't imagine I would have made her feel bad or insecure about herself, unless you had already told her, 'Dan is a superficial dick'
My own wife's figure is not perfect and, weight will add and add and add and I am ready for this in every way.
On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 5:11 AM David E. Ford Jr. < ottoemezz@...> wrote: yes, as steinberger said, it was the reason. it's weird because i don't have personal self-consciousness stemming from the people around me, so like, if people think my partner is fat or whatever, i really couldn't care less. i suppose in the case of becca, i felt very protective of her, because i understand a lot of her neuroses. but like, at the end of the day, i have my prejudices, so it's not like i can come down on others because they happen to have different prejudices. but i do try to find opportunities, as here, for examining my own habits and prejudices as well as those i find in the people around me.?
On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 4:32 AM Joe Steinberger < joe@...> wrote: Dan, I think it’s worth noting that Dave called this THE reason, one “one of the reasons”.?
That’s too bad, Dave. Once in a while it will occur to me to suggest no one mention something such as that, but then I realize that strategy will most likely backfire unfortunately.?
Also, right now I am strongly suppressing the desire to make a body joke. Not sure if I have succeeded.?
Interesting. I'm really sorry that was one of the reasons.?
On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 12:59 PM David E. Ford Jr. < ottoemezz@...> wrote: since matte introduced the whole question of moral peculiarities of this particular exchange, i am going to share something?with total honesty. but, i want to make clear that i am doing this only to provide an opportunity for us to examine some of the habitual ways we think and talk about the world. there are no bad feelings underpinning this and i harbor none for anyone?about anything. having said that, the reason that you never met becca, who was my partner for nearly five years, is because i know the ways in which you sometimes talk about women's bodies and i also know something of the lifetime of insecurities she's had around her own body and the devastating repercussions that can have.
On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 6:29 PM David E. Ford Jr. < ottoemezz@...> wrote: the irony of someone?talking about a woman "owning" or having confidence in their weight/body image in the middle of this particular thread is perhaps the choicest bit for me
On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 1:27 AM David Doga < oyeguey@...> wrote:
I think some girls are cuter with a little weight and girls that own it? , have confidence that I find sexy too.
Just my thoughts.?
I mean, I consider you all my 'sounding board.' I can tell you: "I'm attracted to black people more than Asian people." I wouldn't tell this to other people.
One positive way to think of it...for many years...decades....like this was in "One Floor" I've obsessed over the pathway for young, pretty people to become fat and gross (to me personally). I think I can look at a pretty 20 year old and go...'Hmmh, how
will she probably look when she is 40 or 50. Yeah, probably like that. Gross."
Now I'm bald and pretty gross. Even a little fat. And I'm ok with that. It's reality.
I'm now able to look at a woman like this, my boss, and go, "You know, I can picture
?(Jill Wiseman) thin and hot like 20 years ago." I told Sandra that almost verbatim because she is working at my school as well.?
My idea of the 'haunted house strip club,' as David Ford saw, isn't totally true. I don't really believe it would be viable. I find it funny. But at its heart I think I would pay money for that if society allowed me to.
Dan Buck
We stream news for kids
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 1:06 PM Todd Rhoads < todd@...> wrote:
Are you just now starting to come to terms with and awakening to the often transgressive and parasocial musings of Dan buck? At least he's pretty honest about that kind of thing. I think you're also asking how self-aware he is in that more offensive
formulations, I think, usually somewhat. Of course also somewhat sociopathic, but also somewhat self-aware. Irony? Probably less of that, than just some raw honesty; could definitely use a lot more of a desire and design to try to push back against some of
our most base impulses and opinions. But then, that would be a lot less interesting, then, wouldn't it.?
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022, 9:56 AM Matte < matte@...> wrote:
I know that I’m at the periphery of this group. So I’m responding here fully aware that I'm at risk of antagonizing people, exposing that I am oblivious to the spirit of this group,? and?inviting ostracism.
But should I read messages like these as an ironic satire of a particular type of middle-aged man? Or is this sincere?
You know, maybe if I was single, I'd be ok dating a 25 year old who is fat, but hot.
There's a woman at my school who is 28 and I really thought she was fat because she had a baby. Cute, hot, friendly, loving. Nope. No baby. Just fat. Not huge. But I'd be ok with that.
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