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DFW RPI Usergroup Meeting 10/2021
So, how do you like fall? Sweaters at the ready, together with all that pumpkin, spice and what not? Just kidding, this is Texas, now you see autumn, now you don't.
Let's give this hybrid meeting thing another go, so both online and at the lab, this Saturday, party time: Topic: Dallas RPI Usergroup Meeting 10/2021 Time: Oct 2, 2021 10:00 Central Time (US and Canada) Join Zoom Meeting Meeting ID: 830 4448 5904 Passcode: 910083 One tap mobile +13462487799,,83044485904#,,,,*910083# US (Houston) +12532158782,,83044485904#,,,,*910083# US (Tacoma) Dial by your location +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) +1 929 205 6099 US (New York) +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) Meeting ID: 830 4448 5904 Passcode: 910083 Find your local number: If you can find the time to attend in person, please keep in mind that at the lab masks are mandatory, no exceptions. Who has something to show, maybe even a presentation good to go? Talk to me! |
Re: rpi 3b+ vs 3b? Critical supply issues - Anyone know if the OS and libraries are essentially the same?
Have not seen any. Same image across the board, same behavior, never mind what hardware it is running on, apart from performance when it comes to CPU-intense tasks on different types of CPU (like 0w vs 2b vs 3b vs 4). Only other issue might be task and thread scheduling, but that shouldn't be much of an issue between 3 and 3+.
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Paul James wrote: Hi All, |
Re: rpi 3b+ vs 3b? Critical supply issues - Anyone know if the OS and libraries are essentially the same?
All distributions of Raspbian/Raspberry Pi OS are intended to run on all models, from the original 1B to the 4B, the A's, and Zeros.? If you look in the /boot filesystem you will see different kernels, .DTB's, etc for the various types of CPUs.? There shouldn't any problems.? I have installed the latest firmware on even my RPi 1B's with no problems upon boot up. You might try PiShop.us for quantity RPi's but the chip shortage is hitting everybody. ??????? -Rusty- On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 2:18 PM Paul James <p.james@...> wrote:
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rpi 3b+ vs 3b? Critical supply issues - Anyone know if the OS and libraries are essentially the same?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi All, ? So if you hadn¡¯t yet noticed, almost all of 3b+ are unobtanium around the world (and just about all models). ? 3b+ was $35 @ Microcenter, now selling for upwards of $80 ¨C 120 on Amazon / some Ebay etc. ? I need to buy a minimum of 50, and I can still get 3B out of china. I cant buy one locally, no one has a 3b for sale, and it looks like I need to order via Alibaba tonight before prices keep on increasing. ? Looking at the specs, the only change between 3B and 3B+ is more advanced wifi capabilities, and a slightly slower ghz rate on the 3B. ? Has anyone had OS / library issues between the 3B / 3B+? ? As an example, Farnell in the UK yesterday was showing they would have more 3b+ arriving next week (as of yesterday). Today they changed their backorder date to March 2022! ? Groan! ? Paul |
Re: Ad hoc WiFi connections
I might be way off what you are intending to do here, but have you looked at wifi-connect?
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The wifi-connect service runs in the background of a pi: - if the rpi has internet connection then all ok - if the rpi does not have an active connection, then a wifi server is started on the rpi, with a definable ssid, ip etc. We use this to then set the correct wifi ssid credentials for the rpi. - You could also pass other parameters via this method. Wifi-connect requires network_manager, which is the heavier duty version of 'wifi lite' that rpi buster has. However you would need to change the gui to remove the existing wifi display and instead display the network manager status etc. Our code then uses firebase as our communications middleware between our server and client rpi's. This enables us to post / change control variables, and the rpi listens for changes occurring at the firebase level, and picks up any new values. This architectural method allows us to close about all inbound ports on the rpi as a security measure. It is the same for code upgrades / down grades. We don¡¯t push the change to the device, instead we push the notification of a package to firebase, the rpi detects the message and then acts independently on that message. Cheers Paul -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bernd Braemer via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 7:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [dallasrpi] Ad hoc WiFi connections Has anybody recently set up ad hoc WiFi connections in Linux Mint, Ubuntu or any other Linux distribution? Windows 10 does not support that mode any more and the new WiFi chips like the one in my work laptop do no longer support ad hoc mode either. Thank you Microsoft. Problem is I might need to connect to so called WiFi batteries (battery with a SBC) for infusion pumps. Per default the WiFi adapter offers an ad hoc network that can be used to change the settings. Now with Windows 10 and new hardware this possibility is usable any more. Yes, there is a workaround for that in general but there is one situation when only the ad hoc connection is all that is left. This is when the battery goes into fallback mode. It happens rarely but it works. I have read all kinds of tips on the internet, but nothing worked. I am using two UGWDR82NUH50A dongles who feature Realtek RTL8191SU which support the ad hoc mode to make sure at least the hardware should be working. I can setup an ad hoc network on one computer and the network is visible on the other computer. When I want to connect with the network via ad hoc a connection cannot be established. Connections to my existing router work fine Kind regards, Bernd Braemer |
Re: Ad hoc WiFi connections
I used to set up RPi's in ad-hoc mode about 10 years ago when I was meshing WRT54G's but this was back when WiFi dongles were needed on the RPi's.? Static IP addresses were used in the 10.*.*.* address range were generated by manipulating the MAC address.? Once this is setup you'll need something like OLSR or BATMAN to help with your routing and passing infrastructure info around. I'm not sure how well ad-hoc works on the current builtin wifi chips on the RPi's these days.? Guess I can experiment a bit. ??????? -Rusty- |
Re: Ad hoc WiFi connections
Found about that not too long ago as well. Not one bit happy about that.
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Thx, Microsoft, so much appreciate that one. Apparently wpa_supplican.conf can be tweaked to support ad-hoc, like described here: If they see each other, than we are only half-way there. Question is, do they have matching IP addresses, and if so, can they ping each other? Bernd Braemer wrote: Has anybody recently set up ad hoc WiFi connections in Linux Mint, Ubuntu or any other Linux distribution? |
Ad hoc WiFi connections
Has anybody recently set up ad hoc WiFi connections in Linux Mint, Ubuntu or any other Linux distribution?
Windows 10 does not support that mode any more and the new WiFi chips like the one in my work laptop do no longer support ad hoc mode either. Thank you Microsoft. Problem is I might need to connect to so called WiFi batteries (battery with a SBC) for infusion pumps. Per default the WiFi adapter offers an ad hoc network that can be used to change the settings. Now with Windows 10 and new hardware this possibility is usable any more. Yes, there is a workaround for that in general but there is one situation when only the ad hoc connection is all that is left. This is when the battery goes into fallback mode. It happens rarely but it works. I have read all kinds of tips on the internet, but nothing worked. I am using two UGWDR82NUH50A dongles who feature Realtek RTL8191SU which support the ad hoc mode to make sure at least the hardware should be working. I can setup an ad hoc network on one computer and the network is visible on the other computer. When I want to connect with the network via ad hoc a connection cannot be established. Connections to my existing router work fine Kind regards, Bernd Braemer |
Re: Short article on how to "Customize RPi splash screen & boot up video"
Right -- it just never occurred to me that there would be a use case for it. All my gear is command line only, so the idea to try anything video doesn't came up.
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Paul James wrote: We are using the method on our production rpi. Just wish I knew blender better to take out a ¡®wobble¡¯ from the water renu logo, which I 360 rotated in fusion 360, then extracted out the wave pattern through the logo, then imported into blender for the 3d effect. |
Re: Short article on how to "Customize RPi splash screen & boot up video"
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýWe are using the method on our production rpi. Just wish I knew blender better to take out a ¡®wobble¡¯ from the water renu logo, which I 360 rotated in fusion 360, then extracted out the wave pattern through the logo, then imported into blender for the 3d effect. ? We use the first frame as the static splash, and it then start the video while the boot process completes. ? So if anyone knows blender really well, please feel free to get in touch! ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
Rusty Haddock via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2021 4:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [dallasrpi] Short article on how to "Customize RPi splash screen & boot up video" ? Well, when it's run out of rc.local, which is the last script run at start up, it's not a big deal. ? On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 3:40 PM Cornelius Keck <dfwrpi@...> wrote:
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Re: Short article on how to "Customize RPi splash screen & boot up video"
Well, when it's run out of rc.local, which is the last script run at start up, it's not a big deal. On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 3:40 PM Cornelius Keck <dfwrpi@...> wrote: Wait, what, videos at startup? Impressive! -- ? ?_____ |\/ ? o \? ?o ? ? ? ? ??Rusty Haddock? <=>? AE5AE? | ? (? -<? O o ? ? ?Settled down in oh-so-fancy Plano. |/\__V__/? ? ? ?Math illiteracy affects 7 out of 5 people! |
Re: Short article on how to "Customize RPi splash screen & boot up video"
Wait, what, videos at startup? Impressive!
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Guess I might at some point briefly stop running these things headless. On 9/10/21 1:05 AM, Rusty Haddock wrote:
While I knew about how to change the boot up splash screen |
Short article on how to "Customize RPi splash screen & boot up video"
While I knew about how to change the boot up splash screen I didn't know (or think about) adding a video to the boot up sequence.? Still, after reading the article it's kinda hit me, like DUH!?? Despite what the article says, any video format that 'omxplayer' understands can be used but keep 'em short because you won't be able to use your RPi until AFTER the video finishes. -- ? ?_____ |\/ ? o \? ?o ? ? ? ? ??Rusty Haddock? <=>? AE5AE? | ? (? -<? O o ? ? ?Settled down in oh-so-fancy Plano. |/\__V__/? ? ? ?Math illiteracy affects 7 out of 5 people! |
DFWUUG tonight
So that your social schedule looks less barren, as per :
The Dallas Ft. Worth UNIX User?s Group offers area UNIX users the opportunity to attend monthly meetings that include presentations from industry experts, small break-out sessions for special interest groups, and free pizza! Our meetings are scheduled for the second Thursday of each month. The IBM facility we use is still closed for meetings. So no free pizza this month.... If you?d like to get involved and increase your networking opportunities, join us for our next meeting: Thursday, September 9, 2021, 7:00 PM The September 9th meeting will be virtual, through Zoom. Presentation/Talk: Cornelius Keck will discuss and demo NFS The Zoom link and ID and passcode are: Stuart Yarus is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. Topic: DFWUUG Time: Sep 9, 2021 07:00 PM Central Time (US and Canada) Join Zoom Meeting Meeting ID: 861 0154 4134 Passcode: 963843 One tap mobile +13462487799,,86101544134#,,,,*963843# US (Houston) +12532158782,,86101544134#,,,,*963843# US (Tacoma) Dial by your location +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 669 900 9128 US (San Jose) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) Meeting ID: 861 0154 4134 Passcode: 963843 Find your local number: Physical Meeting location: IBM at 1177 South Beltline Road, Coppell, Texas. Physical mailing address: Dallas / Fort Worth Unix Users Group P. O. Box 701013 Dallas, Texas 75370-1013. Our meetings are always open to the public at no charge. |
Re: Dallas RPI Usergroup Meeting 9/2021
Well,? I'll come over around 945 or so. On Sat, Sep 4, 2021, 8:11 AM Cornelius Keck <dfwrpi@...> wrote: Yes, we can. There's a conflict with another group having an RPI install |
Re: Dallas RPI Usergroup Meeting 9/2021
Yes, we can. There's a conflict with another group having an RPI install
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party, like set up a Pi from scratch, then add HamRadio. That second part I want to see for sure. Have to figure out on how to have both classes at the same time to not step on each other, if joining them into one isn't an option. I've not gotten many positive RSVPs due to the holiday, so not sure how many will show. I intend to be at the lab no later than 09:15CDT. On Sat, 4 Sep 2021, Rusty Haddock wrote:
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2021 06:31:54 -0500 |
Re: Dallas RPI Usergroup Meeting 9/2021
So we can meet at the new Makerspace on Campbell? On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 10:11 AM Cornelius Keck <dfwrpi@...> wrote: Looks as if we have a bit of a scheduling conflict at the lab. Another -- ? ?_____ |\/ ? o \? ?o ? ? ? ? ??Rusty Haddock? <=>? AE5AE? | ? (? -<? O o ? ? ?Settled down in oh-so-fancy Plano. |/\__V__/? ? ? ?Math illiteracy affects 7 out of 5 people! |
Re: Dallas RPI Usergroup Meeting 9/2021
Looks as if we have a bit of a scheduling conflict at the lab. Another RPI class got scheduled for the same time. Trying to figure out how to resolve that. Either way, there's going to be a show. :)
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Cornelius Keck wrote: September is upon us, might be time to figure out if you had any Halloween decoration last year, and where that might be at. Could be tricky to find in between the Xmas gear some retailers put out on display. Anyway, it's time, also Labor Day weekend, let's see who is in town. It has been suggested to broadcast from the lab, so I'm going to try to get Zoom working from there. If that all works, big TV and all that, with no policies or city ordinances against physical meetings, those might commence eventually. No promises at all. |
Re: Dallas RPI Usergroup Meeting 9/2021
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýJust a short note to all: ? The IrriGRAY rpi controller is close to being finished / rolled out (yeah I know we are only 3 months overdue from what I thought we could get done in 4 mths, but hey the EE had open heart surgery 8 weeks ago, my main programmer had 4 x 1 week ritual mourning periods to get through (India / covid - still). ? But, on the positive side we are making lemonade out of lemons, I realized there was a whole group of electrical current sensors we could have added, but didn¡¯t. So on Friday our new expansion boards arrive from PCB way and we will start baking those on Monday. ? What I have added is 5v dc current measuring, and 24v ac current measuring in 2 Current Transformers (0-100ma), (0-2amp), plus the existing 110v (0-10amp) current measuring. ? This means we can have the rpi cycle test every individual electrically driven thing (motors, system valves, irrigation solenoids, pumps etc) to check whether an item is aok, on the way to failing, or failed. ? We also avoided all the global variable management issue within python by instead writing a virtual db, which gets dumped to the CF card in the event of power failure (we have the 30 second capacitor backup). ? So probably not able to attend on Saturday, but Following month can give a decent presentation if there is interest. Don¡¯t know if the picture I attached will make it through to the group ¨C if so ignore the cuts on the plastic support board, that is from the old design. ? ? Apologies if this is too detailed as a quick update! ? Best to all. ? Paul ? -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Cornelius Keck via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [dallasrpi] Dallas RPI Usergroup Meeting 9/2021 ? September is upon us, might be time to figure out if you had any Halloween decoration last year, and where that might be at. Could be tricky to find in between the Xmas gear some retailers put out on display. Anyway, it's time, also Labor Day weekend, let's see who is in town. It has been suggested to broadcast from the lab, so I'm going to try to get Zoom working from there. If that all works, big TV and all that, with no policies or city ordinances against physical meetings, those might commence eventually. No promises at all. ? Always check for any updates and last minute changes. ? This being said, same place, same time, as always: ? Topic: DFWRPI Usergroup Meeting 9/2021 ? Time: 4. Sept. 2021 10:00 Central Time (USA and Kanada) ? Join Zoom Meeting: ? ? Meeting-ID: 897 8022 0341 Passcode: 603888 One tap mobile ? +13462487799,,89780220341#,,,,*603888# Vereinigte Staaten (Houston) +16699006833,,89780220341#,,,,*603888# Vereinigte Staaten (San Jose) ? Dial by your location +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 929 205 6099 US (New York) +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) ? Meeting-ID: 897 8022 0341 Passcode: 603888 Find your local number: ? ? ? ? |