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Hi Pele
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Good to hear from you. I like the new stream, not sure it is worth what they charge for it but it is what it is.I only found a couple of bugs in it, I don't use it for bbc radio as prefer other stations such as gold. I have plenty to keep me going, 2 stream mark 2, milestone and evo 10, they all have their good points, but yes the stream mark 2 will take some beating I think, I think I have had 3 of them. The milestone is my second choice. Regards Adrien -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Pele West Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2023 7:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [dap-uk] Stream 3 Hi Ray and Adrien I am glad I haven't ordered a 3rd generation stream after your comments. I believe the new Sense Player has a number of bugs as well. I find my 2nd generation stream very reliable, and I still use an original stream. Pele |
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As a Daisy Player addict I purchased both the SensePlayer and Victor Reader. I think it is fair to say that there are disappointments with both de devices which I can only hope will improve over time.
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I might do a full review but essentially the main selling point of the SensePlayer - its ability to pair and integrate with an iPhone does not work now at all for me. Not only can you not invoke Siri, currently it is impossible to execute any command with the SensePlayer acting as a keyboard for the phone. I could do this initially but can no longer do so, even after re-pairing the phone and doing a reed-initialisation of the SensePlayer so I am pretty fed up with that. The Victor Reader device, apart from the issues others like Ray and Adrian have raised is incredibly slow at reading my 512 GB SD card at start up. My Stream will announce refreshing bookshelf for minutes if I just leave it. The only way around this I have found to shorten this is by switching to and from online mode which seems to break it out of the refreshing bookshelf announcement. To be fair to the SensePlayer this same 512 GB card will load instantly without delay so at least they have got that bit right. I think Humanware are aware of the dreadful load time for SD cards on Startup and I now understand their eagerness to introduce a "standby" feature in the Stream in the next update, much like the old Plextalk devices had. This will presumably reduce the refreshing bookshelf delay every time you have to hard restart the Stream after it turns itself off. Incidentally I have not found any way yet of amending the shutdown timer on the Stream - has anybody learnt that? However whilst the SensePlayer seems to do a reasonable job of playing Daisy books the support for mp3 Audio Books seems pretty awful for me with no way of auto resuming in a book. The player seems to treat mp3 Audio Books as simply another music/media player with no generalised recognition of it as a book. The traditional stream approach here seems far superior to me here at least. I caveat this as I am more unfamiliar with the SensePlayer and perhaps there are ways of doing things not immediately obvious from reading the manual. I do think that the SensePlayer is inferior to the Stream device in handling radio and the BBC in general. The SensePlayer does not provide any working BBC streams at all. Not just the Victor Reader stream 3 but also Blind Shell Classic have managed to provide working BBC streams. if Although the Stream 3 BBC streams tend to cut out, they are at least there, unlike the complete current lack of SensePlayer support for BBC listening. There is currently no sign of the promised BBC Sounds app. In short I do not think either device was in reality robust enough to bring to market. I just hope that things improve for both devices as they enter an update cycle. David Griffith . -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of adrien collins Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2023 9:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 Hi Pele Good to hear from you. I like the new stream, not sure it is worth what they charge for it but it is what it is.I only found a couple of bugs in it, I don't use it for bbc radio as prefer other stations such as gold. I have plenty to keep me going, 2 stream mark 2, milestone and evo 10, they all have their good points, but yes the stream mark 2 will take some beating I think, I think I have had 3 of them. The milestone is my second choice. Regards Adrien -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Pele West Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2023 7:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [dap-uk] Stream 3 Hi Ray and Adrien I am glad I haven't ordered a 3rd generation stream after your comments. I believe the new Sense Player has a number of bugs as well. I find my 2nd generation stream very reliable, and I still use an original stream. Pele |
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Hi David,
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The SD card handling will indeed be a part of the 1.2 update, we know there are some issues handling larging cards and we're testing some improvements. Don't know yet if it'll be perfect on 1.2, but if it's not we'll keep working at it. Mathieu -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Griffith via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2023 6:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 EXTERNAL EMAIL - Be vigilant with attachments and clickable links. COURRIEL EXTERNE - Attention aux pièces jointes et aux liens cliquables. As a Daisy Player addict I purchased both the SensePlayer and Victor Reader. I think it is fair to say that there are disappointments with both de devices which I can only hope will improve over time. I might do a full review but essentially the main selling point of the SensePlayer - its ability to pair and integrate with an iPhone does not work now at all for me. Not only can you not invoke Siri, currently it is impossible to execute any command with the SensePlayer acting as a keyboard for the phone. I could do this initially but can no longer do so, even after re-pairing the phone and doing a reed-initialisation of the SensePlayer so I am pretty fed up with that. The Victor Reader device, apart from the issues others like Ray and Adrian have raised is incredibly slow at reading my 512 GB SD card at start up. My Stream will announce refreshing bookshelf for minutes if I just leave it. The only way around this I have found to shorten this is by switching to and from online mode which seems to break it out of the refreshing bookshelf announcement. To be fair to the SensePlayer this same 512 GB card will load instantly without delay so at least they have got that bit right. I think Humanware are aware of the dreadful load time for SD cards on Startup and I now understand their eagerness to introduce a "standby" feature in the Stream in the next update, much like the old Plextalk devices had. This will presumably reduce the refreshing bookshelf delay every time you have to hard restart the Stream after it turns itself off. Incidentally I have not found any way yet of amending the shutdown timer on the Stream - has anybody learnt that? However whilst the SensePlayer seems to do a reasonable job of playing Daisy books the support for mp3 Audio Books seems pretty awful for me with no way of auto resuming in a book. The player seems to treat mp3 Audio Books as simply another music/media player with no generalised recognition of it as a book. The traditional stream approach here seems far superior to me here at least. I caveat this as I am more unfamiliar with the SensePlayer and perhaps there are ways of doing things not immediately obvious from reading the manual. I do think that the SensePlayer is inferior to the Stream device in handling radio and the BBC in general. The SensePlayer does not provide any working BBC streams at all. Not just the Victor Reader stream 3 but also Blind Shell Classic have managed to provide working BBC streams. if Although the Stream 3 BBC streams tend to cut out, they are at least there, unlike the complete current lack of SensePlayer support for BBC listening. There is currently no sign of the promised BBC Sounds app. In short I do not think either device was in reality robust enough to bring to market. I just hope that things improve for both devices as they enter an update cycle. David Griffith . -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of adrien collins Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2023 9:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 Hi Pele Good to hear from you. I like the new stream, not sure it is worth what they charge for it but it is what it is.I only found a couple of bugs in it, I don't use it for bbc radio as prefer other stations such as gold. I have plenty to keep me going, 2 stream mark 2, milestone and evo 10, they all have their good points, but yes the stream mark 2 will take some beating I think, I think I have had 3 of them. The milestone is my second choice. Regards Adrien -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Pele West Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2023 7:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [dap-uk] Stream 3 Hi Ray and Adrien I am glad I haven't ordered a 3rd generation stream after your comments. I believe the new Sense Player has a number of bugs as well. I find my 2nd generation stream very reliable, and I still use an original stream. Pele |
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Hi David
Thanks for your very interesting post. I am sorry controlling your phone no longer works with the sense player, that would be a selling point for me. I have a RIVO2 keyboard to control my phone, and love it. I like the victor reader stream file structure. Is it the same on the new stream. It seems a sensible way of dealing with MP3 books, podcasts and music. How does the EVO 12 compare? I thought about buying one when my stream broke last year, but at that time you could not easily download podcasts unless you knew the feeds. Pele |
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Yes I am hoping that as and when the new firmware arrives for my SensePlayer that will resolve the keyboard issue.
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I agree that the folder structure on the Stream and Trek, continued with the Stream 3 works well, despite the odd aversion some appear to have to it. The crucial thing is that it allows different firmware media rules to apply to each media type and this allows excellent functionality to support, for example, vanilla mp3 audio books. Other players seem to find this surprisingly difficult to emulate. I have given up for example trying to play Audio Books on the Evo 12. Similarly the SensePlayer is ridiculously sensitive to what it called mixed media types It will refuse to play an album if for example there is an album art jpg included in a music album folder. You never have these issues on a Victor device. Weaknesses of the Evo 12 as I experience it are Poor or non existent support of Audio Books - most audio books I place in the so called audio books folder are not even recognised as Audio Books. I have tried multiple configurations, folders of mp3 chapters, or long single file audio books, inside or outside of folders and none have worked apart from 1. It is a mystery to me as to why this one book worked - it was a long single file mp3 book. As you say the Evo 12 online database functionality is very limited though it has improved since its earliest incarnation. You can at least search with T9 text input now rather than the odd alphabet selection for text entry. The strength of the Evo 12 is the quality of it dual speakers, as it is quite a bulky device you get the benefit here. It is also a very good FM Radio with a strong telescopic antenna to support this. If they had included DAB it would be a ground breaker but there is little international support for DAB I think. Daisy Book playing is now OK on the Evo 12 after firmware updates. However there are 2 areas in which the Evo 12 really excels. Firstly its range of customisation for media playback is excellent - with fine and responsive control of speed, pitch and so on which leave the other players to shame. But by far the strongest feature of the Evo is its level of support for eBook reading. Here its voice choice is absolutely outstanding compared to any other specialist player. I think the last time I counted you could choose from 12 different on the fly voices for both system and eBook reading. Unlike other players these voices are all installed ready for use. So I can, on the fly, switch between Ivona Accapella and Nuance voices, or even redress into eSpeak if I was so minded. On my Evo 12 I have used Acapella Peter, Lucy, Nuance Malcolm, Oliver and Daniel, and Ivona Brian Emma and Amy. This is outstanding TTS support, backed up by firmware which is responsive to changing pitch and speed of these voices quite radically if you would wish. Personally I play the eBooks at 1.2 speed and do not change pitch that much as it affects comprehension for me but it is there if you want. The Evo 12 is also an excellent PDF Reader as well as the normal support for e|Pub, text and Word documents. Given its excellent support of the Format it is strange that there does not appear to be any support for direct Bookshare connection as possible in the other players. The ability, on the Evo 10 to play background music during the reading of eBooks has been lost in the Evo 12 but personally I have not missed that. The only other eBook feature any of the other players have over the Evo 12 is the ability of the SensePlayer OCR to process nominally inaccessible graphical PDF and JPG files internally and resolve them into readable output. I guess if any manufacturer came to me I could provide the specification for the perfect specialist Daisy Player! David Griffith The Evo 12 is not really in the same category as the Stream Senseplayer and Evo 10 as it is much bulkier. -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Pele West Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2023 7:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 Hi David Thanks for your very interesting post. I am sorry controlling your phone no longer works with the sense player, that would be a selling point for me. I have a RIVO2 keyboard to control my phone, and love it. I like the victor reader stream file structure. Is it the same on the new stream. It seems a sensible way of dealing with MP3 books, podcasts and music. How does the EVO 12 compare? I thought about buying one when my stream broke last year, but at that time you could not easily download podcasts unless you knew the feeds. Pele |
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Good comprehensive asesssment David of three of the player options around at the moment.? It would be nice if someone came up with the pros and cons of the Milestone players.
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the only possitive I can come up with presently for the VR3 is its chapter support.? At least we've got that as promised.? Does make a difference listening to the Living Blindfully podcast. Said it before and wil say it again, but I believe if Humanware could port an app for smart phones enabling a Stream to be used as simply a keypad I think they would be onto a possible winner. This could yet prove to be a great selling point for the HIMS player - when they get it right.? A must have for such a keypad driven IOS and Android interface would be the ability to kill the phone when listening to books, though that would not apply of course if connecting to a tablet. Ray. On 19/07/2023 09:07 am, David Griffith via groups.io wrote:
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What firmware version do you have on your E12? I seem to be able to get audio books working just fine. All the best Steve -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Griffith via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2023 9:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 Yes I am hoping that as and when the new firmware arrives for my SensePlayer that will resolve the keyboard issue. I agree that the folder structure on the Stream and Trek, continued with the Stream 3 works well, despite the odd aversion some appear to have to it. The crucial thing is that it allows different firmware media rules to apply to each media type and this allows excellent functionality to support, for example, vanilla mp3 audio books. Other players seem to find this surprisingly difficult to emulate. I have given up for example trying to play Audio Books on the Evo 12. Similarly the SensePlayer is ridiculously sensitive to what it called mixed media types It will refuse to play an album if for example there is an album art jpg included in a music album folder. You never have these issues on a Victor device. Weaknesses of the Evo 12 as I experience it are Poor or non existent support of Audio Books - most audio books I place in the so called audio books folder are not even recognised as Audio Books. I have tried multiple configurations, folders of mp3 chapters, or long single file audio books, inside or outside of folders and none have worked apart from 1. It is a mystery to me as to why this one book worked - it was a long single file mp3 book. As you say the Evo 12 online database functionality is very limited though it has improved since its earliest incarnation. You can at least search with T9 text input now rather than the odd alphabet selection for text entry. The strength of the Evo 12 is the quality of it dual speakers, as it is quite a bulky device you get the benefit here. It is also a very good FM Radio with a strong telescopic antenna to support this. If they had included DAB it would be a ground breaker but there is little international support for DAB I think. Daisy Book playing is now OK on the Evo 12 after firmware updates. However there are 2 areas in which the Evo 12 really excels. Firstly its range of customisation for media playback is excellent - with fine and responsive control of speed, pitch and so on which leave the other players to shame. But by far the strongest feature of the Evo is its level of support for eBook reading. Here its voice choice is absolutely outstanding compared to any other specialist player. I think the last time I counted you could choose from 12 different on the fly voices for both system and eBook reading. Unlike other players these voices are all installed ready for use. So I can, on the fly, switch between Ivona Accapella and Nuance voices, or even redress into eSpeak if I was so minded. On my Evo 12 I have used Acapella Peter, Lucy, Nuance Malcolm, Oliver and Daniel, and Ivona Brian Emma and Amy. This is outstanding TTS support, backed up by firmware which is responsive to changing pitch and speed of these voices quite radically if you would wish. Personally I play the eBooks at 1.2 speed and do not change pitch that much as it affects comprehension for me but it is there if you want. The Evo 12 is also an excellent PDF Reader as well as the normal support for e|Pub, text and Word documents. Given its excellent support of the Format it is strange that there does not appear to be any support for direct Bookshare connection as possible in the other players. The ability, on the Evo 10 to play background music during the reading of eBooks has been lost in the Evo 12 but personally I have not missed that. The only other eBook feature any of the other players have over the Evo 12 is the ability of the SensePlayer OCR to process nominally inaccessible graphical PDF and JPG files internally and resolve them into readable output. I guess if any manufacturer came to me I could provide the specification for the perfect specialist Daisy Player! David Griffith The Evo 12 is not really in the same category as the Stream Senseplayer and Evo 10 as it is much bulkier. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Pele West Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2023 7:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 Hi David Thanks for your very interesting post. I am sorry controlling your phone no longer works with the sense player, that would be a selling point for me. I have a RIVO2 keyboard to control my phone, and love it. I like the victor reader stream file structure. Is it the same on the new stream. It seems a sensible way of dealing with MP3 books, podcasts and music. How does the EVO 12 compare? I thought about buying one when my stream broke last year, but at that time you could not easily download podcasts unless you knew the feeds. Pele |
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The great thing about Milestone is it doesn't care about the folder structure. For example, you can make a voice recording in any folder and it will be placed in the last folder you accessed. You can put a Daisy Book in any folder, and it will physically look for the XML files, so then it knows it's not an audio book. All the best Steve -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2023 9:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 Good comprehensive asesssment David of three of the player options around at the moment. It would be nice if someone came up with the pros and cons of the Milestone players. the only possitive I can come up with presently for the VR3 is its chapter support. At least we've got that as promised. Does make a difference listening to the Living Blindfully podcast. Said it before and wil say it again, but I believe if Humanware could port an app for smart phones enabling a Stream to be used as simply a keypad I think they would be onto a possible winner. This could yet prove to be a great selling point for the HIMS player - when they get it right. A must have for such a keypad driven IOS and Android interface would be the ability to kill the phone when listening to books, though that would not apply of course if connecting to a tablet. Ray. On 19/07/2023 09:07 am, David Griffith via groups.io wrote: Yes I am hoping that as and when the new firmware arrives for my SensePlayer that will resolve the keyboard issue. |
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I haven't seen the new sense player so won't comment. I agree with you regarding the refreshing bookshelf message, I have noticed it has finished and seems to start over again, this has happened a few times. I use 128 gb sd cards, nothing higher/ I received my new replacement stream today, be interesting if I get the same issues but I assume I will, I just hope the c usb port doesn't fail again. Regards Adrien -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Griffith via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2023 11:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 As a Daisy Player addict I purchased both the SensePlayer and Victor Reader. I think it is fair to say that there are disappointments with both de devices which I can only hope will improve over time. I might do a full review but essentially the main selling point of the SensePlayer - its ability to pair and integrate with an iPhone does not work now at all for me. Not only can you not invoke Siri, currently it is impossible to execute any command with the SensePlayer acting as a keyboard for the phone. I could do this initially but can no longer do so, even after re-pairing the phone and doing a reed-initialisation of the SensePlayer so I am pretty fed up with that. The Victor Reader device, apart from the issues others like Ray and Adrian have raised is incredibly slow at reading my 512 GB SD card at start up. My Stream will announce refreshing bookshelf for minutes if I just leave it. The only way around this I have found to shorten this is by switching to and from online mode which seems to break it out of the refreshing bookshelf announcement. To be fair to the SensePlayer this same 512 GB card will load instantly without delay so at least they have got that bit right. I think Humanware are aware of the dreadful load time for SD cards on Startup and I now understand their eagerness to introduce a "standby" feature in the Stream in the next update, much like the old Plextalk devices had. This will presumably reduce the refreshing bookshelf delay every time you have to hard restart the Stream after it turns itself off. Incidentally I have not found any way yet of amending the shutdown timer on the Stream - has anybody learnt that? However whilst the SensePlayer seems to do a reasonable job of playing Daisy books the support for mp3 Audio Books seems pretty awful for me with no way of auto resuming in a book. The player seems to treat mp3 Audio Books as simply another music/media player with no generalised recognition of it as a book. The traditional stream approach here seems far superior to me here at least. I caveat this as I am more unfamiliar with the SensePlayer and perhaps there are ways of doing things not immediately obvious from reading the manual. I do think that the SensePlayer is inferior to the Stream device in handling radio and the BBC in general. The SensePlayer does not provide any working BBC streams at all. Not just the Victor Reader stream 3 but also Blind Shell Classic have managed to provide working BBC streams. if Although the Stream 3 BBC streams tend to cut out, they are at least there, unlike the complete current lack of SensePlayer support for BBC listening. There is currently no sign of the promised BBC Sounds app. In short I do not think either device was in reality robust enough to bring to market. I just hope that things improve for both devices as they enter an update cycle. David Griffith . -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of adrien collins Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2023 9:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 Hi Pele Good to hear from you. I like the new stream, not sure it is worth what they charge for it but it is what it is.I only found a couple of bugs in it, I don't use it for bbc radio as prefer other stations such as gold. I have plenty to keep me going, 2 stream mark 2, milestone and evo 10, they all have their good points, but yes the stream mark 2 will take some beating I think, I think I have had 3 of them. The milestone is my second choice. Regards Adrien -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Pele West Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2023 7:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [dap-uk] Stream 3 Hi Ray and Adrien I am glad I haven't ordered a 3rd generation stream after your comments. I believe the new Sense Player has a number of bugs as well. I find my 2nd generation stream very reliable, and I still use an original stream. Pele |
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I thought the weak USB socket was behind us, but obviously not.
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Like Pele its never bothered me about the file structure the VR Streams use. I have never seen a review of the Milestone playher.? Does anyone know of one? Ray. On 19/07/2023 08:57 pm, adrien collins wrote:
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This is the only review I’ve found of Milestone 312 but it’s old as it dates back from 2011:
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I thought the weak USB socket was behind us, but obviously not.
Like Pele its never bothered me about the file structure the VR Streams use. I have never seen a review of the Milestone playher.? Does anyone know of one? Ray. On 19/07/2023 08:57 pm, adrien collins wrote: > Hi David > > I haven't seen the new sense player so won't comment. > > I agree with you regarding the refreshing bookshelf message, I have noticed it has finished and seems to start over again, this has happened a few times. I use 128 gb sd cards, nothing higher/ > > I received my new replacement stream today, be interesting if I get the same issues but I assume I will, I just hope the c usb port doesn't fail again. > > Regards > > Adrien > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Griffith via groups.io > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2023 11:56 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 > > As a Daisy Player addict I purchased? both the SensePlayer and Victor Reader. I think it is fair to say that there are disappointments with both de devices which I can only? hope will improve over time. > > I might do a full review but essentially the main selling point of the SensePlayer - its ability to pair and integrate with an iPhone does not work now at all for me. Not only can you not invoke Siri, currently it is impossible to execute any command with the SensePlayer acting as a keyboard for the?? phone. > > I could do this initially but can no longer do so, even after re-pairing the phone and doing a reed-initialisation of the SensePlayer so I am pretty fed up with that. > > The Victor Reader device, apart from the issues others like Ray and Adrian have raised is incredibly slow at reading my 512 GB SD card at start up. My Stream will announce refreshing bookshelf for minutes if I just leave it. The only way around this?? I have found to shorten this is by switching to and from online mode which seems to break it out of the refreshing bookshelf announcement. > > To be fair? to the SensePlayer? this same 512 GB card will load instantly without delay so at least they have got that bit right. > > I think Humanware are aware of the dreadful load time for SD cards on Startup and I now understand their eagerness to introduce a "standby" feature in the Stream in the next update, much like the old Plextalk devices had. This will presumably reduce the refreshing bookshelf delay every time you have to hard restart the Stream after it turns itself off. Incidentally I have not found any way yet of amending the shutdown timer on the Stream - has anybody learnt that? > > However whilst the SensePlayer seems to do a reasonable job of playing Daisy books the support for mp3 Audio Books seems pretty awful for me with no way of auto resuming in a book. The player seems to treat mp3 Audio Books as simply another music/media player with no generalised recognition of it as a book. The traditional stream approach here seems far superior to me here at least. > I caveat this as I am more unfamiliar with the SensePlayer and perhaps there are ways of doing things not immediately obvious from reading the manual. > > I do think that the SensePlayer is inferior to the Stream device in handling radio and the BBC in general. The SensePlayer does not provide any working BBC streams at all. Not just the Victor Reader stream? 3 but also Blind Shell Classic have managed to provide working BBC streams. if? Although the Stream 3? BBC? streams tend to cut out, they are at least there, unlike the complete current lack of SensePlayer support for BBC listening. There is currently no sign of the promised BBC Sounds app. > > In short I do not think either device was in reality robust enough?? to bring to market. I just hope that things improve for both devices as they enter an update cycle. > > David Griffith > > > > > . > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of adrien collins > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2023 9:50 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 > > Hi Pele > > Good to hear from you. I like the new stream, not sure it is worth what they charge for it but it is what it is.I only found a couple of bugs in it, I don't use it for bbc radio as prefer other stations such as gold. I have plenty to keep me going, 2 stream mark 2, milestone and evo 10, they all have their good points, but yes the stream mark 2 will take some beating I think, I think I have had 3 of them. The milestone is my second choice. > > > Regards > > Adrien > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Pele West > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2023 7:16 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [dap-uk] Stream 3 > > Hi Ray and Adrien > > I am glad I haven't ordered a 3rd generation stream after your comments. > > I believe the new Sense Player has a number of bugs as well. > > I find my 2nd generation stream very reliable, and I still use an original stream. > > Pele > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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I think it was my stream, I have not heard of any other damaged stream, I may have done something not sure, having no case, I have dropped it a few times. Regards Adrien -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2023 9:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 I thought the weak USB socket was behind us, but obviously not. Like Pele its never bothered me about the file structure the VR Streams use. I have never seen a review of the Milestone playher. Does anyone know of one? Ray. On 19/07/2023 08:57 pm, adrien collins wrote: Hi David |
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the stream 2nd generation player. Pete -----Original Message-----
From: adrien collins Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2023 11:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 Hi Ray I think it was my stream, I have not heard of any other damaged stream, I may have done something not sure, having no case, I have dropped it a few times. Regards Adrien -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2023 9:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 I thought the weak USB socket was behind us, but obviously not. Like Pele its never bothered me about the file structure the VR Streams use. I have never seen a review of the Milestone playher. Does anyone know of one? Ray. On 19/07/2023 08:57 pm, adrien collins wrote: Hi David |
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I think the USB socket failure is quite common, it happened to me twice with the stream 2nd generation player.
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From: adrien collins Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2023 11:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 Hi Ray I think it was my stream, I have not heard of any other damaged stream, I may have done something not sure, having no case, I have dropped it a few times. Regards Adrien -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2023 9:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 I thought the weak USB socket was behind us, but obviously not. Like Pele its never bothered me about the file structure the VR Streams use. I have never seen a review of the Milestone playher. Does anyone know of one? Ray. On 19/07/2023 08:57 pm, adrien collins wrote: Hi David |
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Having just got my new stream, the replacement, being able to export the wifi key would be really useful, mine is 16 characters, mixed letters and numbers, then we can just import it back in if we need to. Regards Adrien -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2023 12:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 Hi David, The SD card handling will indeed be a part of the 1.2 update, we know there are some issues handling larging cards and we're testing some improvements. Don't know yet if it'll be perfect on 1.2, but if it's not we'll keep working at it. Mathieu -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Griffith via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2023 6:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 EXTERNAL EMAIL - Be vigilant with attachments and clickable links. COURRIEL EXTERNE - Attention aux pièces jointes et aux liens cliquables. As a Daisy Player addict I purchased both the SensePlayer and Victor Reader. I think it is fair to say that there are disappointments with both de devices which I can only hope will improve over time. I might do a full review but essentially the main selling point of the SensePlayer - its ability to pair and integrate with an iPhone does not work now at all for me. Not only can you not invoke Siri, currently it is impossible to execute any command with the SensePlayer acting as a keyboard for the phone. I could do this initially but can no longer do so, even after re-pairing the phone and doing a reed-initialisation of the SensePlayer so I am pretty fed up with that. The Victor Reader device, apart from the issues others like Ray and Adrian have raised is incredibly slow at reading my 512 GB SD card at start up. My Stream will announce refreshing bookshelf for minutes if I just leave it. The only way around this I have found to shorten this is by switching to and from online mode which seems to break it out of the refreshing bookshelf announcement. To be fair to the SensePlayer this same 512 GB card will load instantly without delay so at least they have got that bit right. I think Humanware are aware of the dreadful load time for SD cards on Startup and I now understand their eagerness to introduce a "standby" feature in the Stream in the next update, much like the old Plextalk devices had. This will presumably reduce the refreshing bookshelf delay every time you have to hard restart the Stream after it turns itself off. Incidentally I have not found any way yet of amending the shutdown timer on the Stream - has anybody learnt that? However whilst the SensePlayer seems to do a reasonable job of playing Daisy books the support for mp3 Audio Books seems pretty awful for me with no way of auto resuming in a book. The player seems to treat mp3 Audio Books as simply another music/media player with no generalised recognition of it as a book. The traditional stream approach here seems far superior to me here at least. I caveat this as I am more unfamiliar with the SensePlayer and perhaps there are ways of doing things not immediately obvious from reading the manual. I do think that the SensePlayer is inferior to the Stream device in handling radio and the BBC in general. The SensePlayer does not provide any working BBC streams at all. Not just the Victor Reader stream 3 but also Blind Shell Classic have managed to provide working BBC streams. if Although the Stream 3 BBC streams tend to cut out, they are at least there, unlike the complete current lack of SensePlayer support for BBC listening. There is currently no sign of the promised BBC Sounds app. In short I do not think either device was in reality robust enough to bring to market. I just hope that things improve for both devices as they enter an update cycle. David Griffith . -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of adrien collins Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2023 9:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 Hi Pele Good to hear from you. I like the new stream, not sure it is worth what they charge for it but it is what it is.I only found a couple of bugs in it, I don't use it for bbc radio as prefer other stations such as gold. I have plenty to keep me going, 2 stream mark 2, milestone and evo 10, they all have their good points, but yes the stream mark 2 will take some beating I think, I think I have had 3 of them. The milestone is my second choice. Regards Adrien -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Pele West Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2023 7:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [dap-uk] Stream 3 Hi Ray and Adrien I am glad I haven't ordered a 3rd generation stream after your comments. I believe the new Sense Player has a number of bugs as well. I find my 2nd generation stream very reliable, and I still use an original stream. Pele |
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That was the old style usb port, not the new c type, I had a magnetic connecter in and I think it did something to the port, I need to get a proper case for the stream, do you have any yet Steve? Regards Adrien -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Peter Liesching Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2023 9:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 I think the USB socket failure is quite common, it happened to me twice with the stream 2nd generation player. Pete -----Original Message----- From: adrien collins Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2023 11:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 Hi Ray I think it was my stream, I have not heard of any other damaged stream, I may have done something not sure, having no case, I have dropped it a few times. Regards Adrien -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2023 9:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 I thought the weak USB socket was behind us, but obviously not. Like Pele its never bothered me about the file structure the VR Streams use. I have never seen a review of the Milestone playher. Does anyone know of one? Ray. On 19/07/2023 08:57 pm, adrien collins wrote: Hi David |
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