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Hi, to a very quiet list.
I have thought for a long time it should be possible to play BBC HLS streams on various specailist players since the demise of the Shoutcast streams.? Well, it turns out I was right.
Curtacy of a post to the TAVIP list from David Griffiths, I did a search for the Radio Manchester HLS stream.? I searched for
BBC radio hls streams on get-hub
this search turned up all the BBC national and local radio streams.
I then modified a playlist as provided by Pele West some time back.? (I am no tech guru, and much less a programmer!)? I am going to paste in the text of the trial playlist I created at the end of this message.
With reference to the VR Stream, this text should be saved to the route of an SD card to be inserted into the Stream,but you should be able to see the SD card in the VR3 player by connecting it to your computer.? Having copied the file below to the SD card, making sure the Stream is online, go to the internet radio function of the Stream with presses of key 1
Press the number 7 menu key and you should be able to arrow to the import playlist option.? Press hash, bottom righ key of the numberic keys, and all playlists should be imported, including the below list which you will have given a name of your choice, but ending in .pls
This is the experimental list I imported to the Stream.? Much of what is here might not be necessary, but the template I used looks much like a programmer's code script.
[playlist]
NumberOfEntries=2
File1=
Title1=RadioManchester
length1=-1
File2=
Title2=Times Radio
Length2=-1
Version=1
These streams are live at the moment but for how long, who knows?? these may well be the streams the BBC Sounds app uses so, if they are, then fair to assume they should be around for some time.
Obviously those who prefer s=wiping and tapping and searching in the Sounds app can carry on doing that, but it does look like the links found at Get-Hub should form the basis of playlists for the Stream and other newer players.
Not sure if I really have the time or appropriate skill to create full playlists, but for anyone wjp does, then that would be very welcome.? In fact I do hope Humanware come up with playlists - including BBC local radio - even though local radio is now to become a ghost of its former self.
Ray.
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Dear Ray
Well done
I thought initially you had achieved this on the Stream 2, but re-reading it I am not so sure - were these steps taken on a Stream 3?
David Griffith
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 2:17 PM To: [email protected]Subject: [dap-uk] BBC HLS streams on VR Stream and other players Hi, to a very quiet list. I have thought for a long time it should be possible to play BBC HLS streams on various specailist players since the demise of the Shoutcast streams. Well, it turns out I was right. Curtacy of a post to the TAVIP list from David Griffiths, I did a search for the Radio Manchester HLS stream. I searched for BBC radio hls streams on get-hub this search turned up all the BBC national and local radio streams. I then modified a playlist as provided by Pele West some time back. (I am no tech guru, and much less a programmer!) I am going to paste in the text of the trial playlist I created at the end of this message. With reference to the VR Stream, this text should be saved to the route of an SD card to be inserted into the Stream,but you should be able to see the SD card in the VR3 player by connecting it to your computer. Having copied the file below to the SD card, making sure the Stream is online, go to the internet radio function of the Stream with presses of key 1 Press the number 7 menu key and you should be able to arrow to the import playlist option. Press hash, bottom righ key of the numberic keys, and all playlists should be imported, including the below list which you will have given a name of your choice, but ending in .pls This is the experimental list I imported to the Stream. Much of what is here might not be necessary, but the template I used looks much like a programmer's code script. [playlist] NumberOfEntries=2 File1= Title1=RadioManchester length1=-1 File2= Title2=Times Radio Length2=-1 Version=1 These streams are live at the moment but for how long, who knows? these may well be the streams the BBC Sounds app uses so, if they are, then fair to assume they should be around for some time. Obviously those who prefer s=wiping and tapping and searching in the Sounds app can carry on doing that, but it does look like the links found at Get-Hub should form the basis of playlists for the Stream and other newer players. Not sure if I really have the time or appropriate skill to create full playlists, but for anyone wjp does, then that would be very welcome. In fact I do hope Humanware come up with playlists - including BBC local radio - even though local radio is now to become a ghost of its former self. Ray.
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Hi David and all.
Firstly, Yes, these steps were carried out on the VR Stream 3.? I am sure these HLS streams won't work on the VR2, but will most likely work on the Sense player and very probably the latest player.
Since my trial I found on the get-hub site a linkk to download the playlists as .zip files.? the only one of interest I am sharing via Dropbox:
this is the extracted playlist for the 60 odd BBC streams.? It works directly if pasted into the root directory of the VR Stream SD card and imported into the VR3 when in line radio? facility. In fact two of these do not work, i.e. R1 Dance and R1 Extra. Everything's in this list, including the BBC national stations with some stations coming rather oddly in the list, 3 Counties radio being at the end.
This playlist could obviously be rejigged to separate into BBC national, regional, and local lists, as Pele has done in the past.? I may work on that, but no promises.
Once you know the positions of stations in this global playlist you can skip to most of the stations immediately.
Of course I've no way of knowing how long these streams wil be available but odds are I would have thought, that these are the streams that BBC Sounds uses, although it could be Sounds uses a different format for all I know.
I hope this might be a good work around for VR3 users and others at least for the time being.
As David has said elsewhere the BBC is shouting for all its worth about BBC Sounds which does collect everything BBC online under one roof including podcasts - some of them more up-to-date than the widely available many podcast the Beeb puts out.
Ray.
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On 12/10/2023 06:18 pm, David Griffith via groups.io wrote: Dear Ray
Well done
I thought initially you had achieved this on the Stream 2, but re-reading it I am not so sure - were these steps taken on a Stream 3?
David Griffith
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 2:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [dap-uk] BBC HLS streams on VR Stream and other players
Hi, to a very quiet list.
I have thought for a long time it should be possible to play BBC HLS streams on various specailist players since the demise of the Shoutcast streams. Well, it turns out I was right.
Curtacy of a post to the TAVIP list from David Griffiths, I did a search for the Radio Manchester HLS stream. I searched for
BBC radio hls streams on get-hub
this search turned up all the BBC national and local radio streams.
I then modified a playlist as provided by Pele West some time back. (I am no tech guru, and much less a programmer!) I am going to paste in the text of the trial playlist I created at the end of this message.
With reference to the VR Stream, this text should be saved to the route of an SD card to be inserted into the Stream,but you should be able to see the SD card in the VR3 player by connecting it to your computer. Having copied the file below to the SD card, making sure the Stream is online, go to the internet radio function of the Stream with presses of key 1
Press the number 7 menu key and you should be able to arrow to the import playlist option. Press hash, bottom righ key of the numberic keys, and all playlists should be imported, including the below list which you will have given a name of your choice, but ending in .pls
This is the experimental list I imported to the Stream. Much of what is here might not be necessary, but the template I used looks much like a programmer's code script.
[playlist]
NumberOfEntries=2
File1=
Title1=RadioManchester
length1=-1
File2=
Title2=Times Radio
Length2=-1
Version=1
These streams are live at the moment but for how long, who knows? these may well be the streams the BBC Sounds app uses so, if they are, then fair to assume they should be around for some time.
Obviously those who prefer s=wiping and tapping and searching in the Sounds app can carry on doing that, but it does look like the links found at Get-Hub should form the basis of playlists for the Stream and other newer players.
Not sure if I really have the time or appropriate skill to create full playlists, but for anyone wjp does, then that would be very welcome. In fact I do hope Humanware come up with playlists - including BBC local radio - even though local radio is now to become a ghost of its former self.
Ray.
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Well done again Ray.
I tried your playlist on the PC and it worked flawlessly in VLC as well.
Radio 1 starts playing and you then simply tab into a tree list to be able to cursor through all the other stations.
I am going to experiment to see if any of the streams you created or the ones I made will perform in the Evo 12, unlikely but worth trying.
David Griffith
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2023 1:49 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [dap-uk] BBC HLS streams on VR Stream and other players Hi David and all. Firstly, Yes, these steps were carried out on the VR Stream 3. I am sure these HLS streams won't work on the VR2, but will most likely work on the Sense player and very probably the latest player. Since my trial I found on the get-hub site a linkk to download the playlists as .zip files. the only one of interest I am sharing via Dropbox: this is the extracted playlist for the 60 odd BBC streams. It works directly if pasted into the root directory of the VR Stream SD card and imported into the VR3 when in line radio facility. In fact two of these do not work, i.e. R1 Dance and R1 Extra. Everything's in this list, including the BBC national stations with some stations coming rather oddly in the list, 3 Counties radio being at the end. This playlist could obviously be rejigged to separate into BBC national, regional, and local lists, as Pele has done in the past. I may work on that, but no promises. Once you know the positions of stations in this global playlist you can skip to most of the stations immediately. Of course I've no way of knowing how long these streams wil be available but odds are I would have thought, that these are the streams that BBC Sounds uses, although it could be Sounds uses a different format for all I know. I hope this might be a good work around for VR3 users and others at least for the time being. As David has said elsewhere the BBC is shouting for all its worth about BBC Sounds which does collect everything BBC online under one roof including podcasts - some of them more up-to-date than the widely available many podcast the Beeb puts out. Ray. On 12/10/2023 06:18 pm, David Griffith via groups.io wrote: Dear Ray
Well done
I thought initially you had achieved this on the Stream 2, but re-reading it I am not so sure - were these steps taken on a Stream 3?
David Griffith
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 2:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [dap-uk] BBC HLS streams on VR Stream and other players
Hi, to a very quiet list.
I have thought for a long time it should be possible to play BBC HLS streams on various specailist players since the demise of the Shoutcast streams. Well, it turns out I was right.
Curtacy of a post to the TAVIP list from David Griffiths, I did a search for the Radio Manchester HLS stream. I searched for
BBC radio hls streams on get-hub
this search turned up all the BBC national and local radio streams.
I then modified a playlist as provided by Pele West some time back. (I am no tech guru, and much less a programmer!) I am going to paste in the text of the trial playlist I created at the end of this message.
With reference to the VR Stream, this text should be saved to the route of an SD card to be inserted into the Stream,but you should be able to see the SD card in the VR3 player by connecting it to your computer. Having copied the file below to the SD card, making sure the Stream is online, go to the internet radio function of the Stream with presses of key 1
Press the number 7 menu key and you should be able to arrow to the import playlist option. Press hash, bottom righ key of the numberic keys, and all playlists should be imported, including the below list which you will have given a name of your choice, but ending in .pls
This is the experimental list I imported to the Stream. Much of what is here might not be necessary, but the template I used looks much like a programmer's code script.
[playlist]
NumberOfEntries=2
File1=
Title1=RadioManchester
length1=-1
File2=
Title2=Times Radio
Length2=-1
Version=1
These streams are live at the moment but for how long, who knows? these may well be the streams the BBC Sounds app uses so, if they are, then fair to assume they should be around for some time.
Obviously those who prefer s=wiping and tapping and searching in the Sounds app can carry on doing that, but it does look like the links found at Get-Hub should form the basis of playlists for the Stream and other newer players.
Not sure if I really have the time or appropriate skill to create full playlists, but for anyone wjp does, then that would be very welcome. In fact I do hope Humanware come up with playlists - including BBC local radio - even though local radio is now to become a ghost of its former self.
Ray.
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Hi David and list.
I shall have more to say shortly on these HLS BBC streams.
I take it David you have played these streams using the Sense player as well as in Windows?? Would be good to know if the latest Milestone player can handle them too.
Just as an aside, I wonder if you have any thoughts on the workings of VLC?? the streams do play in VLC on Windows but I do find VLC something of a mystery and accessability-wise very hit and miss.? (Do contact me privately though if you feel this is rather OT here.)
My brief reding on HLS streams suggests to me that, amongst other things, HLS streams allow for encription as well as dynamic adjustmetn of the quality at which the streams are played.? this could mean that yet again these streams become unplayable if the BBC were to decide to change things again.
Finally, I will comment that the VR3 has been subject to some unexpected stopping of the Radio 4 Stream I listened to last night, something I rarely get using my Synapptic phone.? this could point to another bug or limitation of the VR3.
I might address a comment to Mathiew on this but also that Bluetooth does not work propperly either on the VR3.? I do hope this October update comes along soon as promised.
Ray.
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On 15/10/2023 10:08 am, David Griffith via groups.io wrote: Well done again Ray.
I tried your playlist on the PC and it worked flawlessly in VLC as well.
Radio 1 starts playing and you then simply tab into a tree list to be able to cursor through all the other stations.
I am going to experiment to see if any of the streams you created or the ones I made will perform in the Evo 12, unlikely but worth trying.
David Griffith
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2023 1:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] BBC HLS streams on VR Stream and other players
Hi David and all.
Firstly, Yes, these steps were carried out on the VR Stream 3. I am sure these HLS streams won't work on the VR2, but will most likely work on the Sense player and very probably the latest player.
Since my trial I found on the get-hub site a linkk to download the playlists as .zip files. the only one of interest I am sharing via Dropbox:
this is the extracted playlist for the 60 odd BBC streams. It works
directly if pasted into the root directory of the VR Stream SD card and
imported into the VR3 when in line radio facility. In fact two of these
do not work, i.e. R1 Dance and R1 Extra. Everything's in this list,
including the BBC national stations with some stations coming rather
oddly in the list, 3 Counties radio being at the end.
This playlist could obviously be rejigged to separate into BBC national,
regional, and local lists, as Pele has done in the past. I may work on
that, but no promises.
Once you know the positions of stations in this global playlist you can
skip to most of the stations immediately.
Of course I've no way of knowing how long these streams wil be available
but odds are I would have thought, that these are the streams that BBC
Sounds uses, although it could be Sounds uses a different format for all
I know.
I hope this might be a good work around for VR3 users and others at
least for the time being.
As David has said elsewhere the BBC is shouting for all its worth about
BBC Sounds which does collect everything BBC online under one roof
including podcasts - some of them more up-to-date than the widely
available many podcast the Beeb puts out.
Ray.
On 12/10/2023 06:18 pm, David Griffith via groups.io wrote:
Dear Ray
Well done
I thought initially you had achieved this on the Stream 2, but re-reading it I am not so sure - were these steps taken on a Stream 3?
David Griffith
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 2:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [dap-uk] BBC HLS streams on VR Stream and other players
Hi, to a very quiet list.
I have thought for a long time it should be possible to play BBC HLS streams on various specailist players since the demise of the Shoutcast streams. Well, it turns out I was right.
Curtacy of a post to the TAVIP list from David Griffiths, I did a search for the Radio Manchester HLS stream. I searched for
BBC radio hls streams on get-hub
this search turned up all the BBC national and local radio streams.
I then modified a playlist as provided by Pele West some time back. (I am no tech guru, and much less a programmer!) I am going to paste in the text of the trial playlist I created at the end of this message.
With reference to the VR Stream, this text should be saved to the route of an SD card to be inserted into the Stream,but you should be able to see the SD card in the VR3 player by connecting it to your computer. Having copied the file below to the SD card, making sure the Stream is online, go to the internet radio function of the Stream with presses of key 1
Press the number 7 menu key and you should be able to arrow to the import playlist option. Press hash, bottom righ key of the numberic keys, and all playlists should be imported, including the below list which you will have given a name of your choice, but ending in .pls
This is the experimental list I imported to the Stream. Much of what is here might not be necessary, but the template I used looks much like a programmer's code script.
[playlist]
NumberOfEntries=2
File1=
Title1=RadioManchester
length1=-1
File2=
Title2=Times Radio
Length2=-1
Version=1
These streams are live at the moment but for how long, who knows? these may well be the streams the BBC Sounds app uses so, if they are, then fair to assume they should be around for some time.
Obviously those who prefer s=wiping and tapping and searching in the Sounds app can carry on doing that, but it does look like the links found at Get-Hub should form the basis of playlists for the Stream and other newer players.
Not sure if I really have the time or appropriate skill to create full playlists, but for anyone wjp does, then that would be very welcome. In fact I do hope Humanware come up with playlists - including BBC local radio - even though local radio is now to become a ghost of its former self.
Ray.
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The strong point of VLC is generally its modern media support though it tends to drop support for older formats, perhaps prematurely.
I generally test playlist files on it before transferring to any Daisy Player.
It also has a good volume range.
Also basic functioning has good keyboard support.
Play pause is generally space.
Forward and backwards in a file is generally just using the arrow keys with alt control etc acting as accelerators to increase the time of the jump.
\Moving to the next file in a playlist is P for previous and N for next.
Right paragraph increases playing speed and left paragraph decreases speed and equals returns speed to normal.
Control up and down arrow control volume.
In your playlist file just pressing tab gets you into the list of stations.
The not so good point is the very shaky accessibility of the preference pane.
Usability is improved by having the Leasey Scripts for Jaws and possibly the NVDA addon though I have not tested it recently - it was failing before at reading time status in racks..
In practical terms I use Calliope as my main media player and reserve VLC for ~Radio streams and anything Calliope cannot cope with. Generally where one fails the other will work with one exception.
And this is where I finally bring it back on topic.
I have never got the explicit Daisy Player function in Calliope to work and also never managed to get Daisy Books to work in VLC, even though it mysteriously tries to grab smil files as a supported file type.
I need to write to Nathan to tell him about the Daisy failure in Calliope, that is, unless anybody else can tell me where I am going wrong?
David Griffith
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2023 2:05 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [dap-uk] BBC HLS streams on VR Stream and other players Hi David and list. I shall have more to say shortly on these HLS BBC streams. I take it David you have played these streams using the Sense player as well as in Windows? Would be good to know if the latest Milestone player can handle them too. Just as an aside, I wonder if you have any thoughts on the workings of VLC? the streams do play in VLC on Windows but I do find VLC something of a mystery and accessability-wise very hit and miss. (Do contact me privately though if you feel this is rather OT here.) My brief reding on HLS streams suggests to me that, amongst other things, HLS streams allow for encription as well as dynamic adjustmetn of the quality at which the streams are played. this could mean that yet again these streams become unplayable if the BBC were to decide to change things again. Finally, I will comment that the VR3 has been subject to some unexpected stopping of the Radio 4 Stream I listened to last night, something I rarely get using my Synapptic phone. this could point to another bug or limitation of the VR3. I might address a comment to Mathiew on this but also that Bluetooth does not work propperly either on the VR3. I do hope this October update comes along soon as promised. Ray. On 15/10/2023 10:08 am, David Griffith via groups.io wrote: Well done again Ray.
I tried your playlist on the PC and it worked flawlessly in VLC as well.
Radio 1 starts playing and you then simply tab into a tree list to be able to cursor through all the other stations.
I am going to experiment to see if any of the streams you created or the ones I made will perform in the Evo 12, unlikely but worth trying.
David Griffith
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2023 1:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] BBC HLS streams on VR Stream and other players
Hi David and all.
Firstly, Yes, these steps were carried out on the VR Stream 3. I am sure these HLS streams won't work on the VR2, but will most likely work on the Sense player and very probably the latest player.
Since my trial I found on the get-hub site a linkk to download the playlists as .zip files. the only one of interest I am sharing via Dropbox:
.
m3u?rlkey=bpdx6ui62by9ndsaeesqyaw5k&dl=1
this is the extracted playlist for the 60 odd BBC streams. It works
directly if pasted into the root directory of the VR Stream SD card
and imported into the VR3 when in line radio facility. In fact two of
these do not work, i.e. R1 Dance and R1 Extra. Everything's in this
list, including the BBC national stations with some stations coming
rather oddly in the list, 3 Counties radio being at the end.
This playlist could obviously be rejigged to separate into BBC
national, regional, and local lists, as Pele has done in the past. I
may work on that, but no promises.
Once you know the positions of stations in this global playlist you
can skip to most of the stations immediately.
Of course I've no way of knowing how long these streams wil be
available but odds are I would have thought, that these are the
streams that BBC Sounds uses, although it could be Sounds uses a
different format for all I know.
I hope this might be a good work around for VR3 users and others at
least for the time being.
As David has said elsewhere the BBC is shouting for all its worth
about BBC Sounds which does collect everything BBC online under one
roof including podcasts - some of them more up-to-date than the widely
available many podcast the Beeb puts out.
Ray.
On 12/10/2023 06:18 pm, David Griffith via groups.io wrote:
Dear Ray
Well done
I thought initially you had achieved this on the Stream 2, but re-reading it I am not so sure - were these steps taken on a Stream 3?
David Griffith
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 2:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [dap-uk] BBC HLS streams on VR Stream and other players
Hi, to a very quiet list.
I have thought for a long time it should be possible to play BBC HLS streams on various specailist players since the demise of the Shoutcast streams. Well, it turns out I was right.
Curtacy of a post to the TAVIP list from David Griffiths, I did a
search for the Radio Manchester HLS stream. I searched for
BBC radio hls streams on get-hub
this search turned up all the BBC national and local radio streams.
I then modified a playlist as provided by Pele West some time back. (I am no tech guru, and much less a programmer!) I am going to paste in the text of the trial playlist I created at the end of this message.
With reference to the VR Stream, this text should be saved to the
route of an SD card to be inserted into the Stream,but you should be
able to see the SD card in the VR3 player by connecting it to your
computer. Having copied the file below to the SD card, making sure
the Stream is online, go to the internet radio function of the Stream
with presses of key 1
Press the number 7 menu key and you should be able to arrow to the
import playlist option. Press hash, bottom righ key of the numberic
keys, and all playlists should be imported, including the below list
which you will have given a name of your choice, but ending in .pls
This is the experimental list I imported to the Stream. Much of what is here might not be necessary, but the template I used looks much like a programmer's code script.
[playlist]
NumberOfEntries=2
File1=
hls/uk/sbr_med/ak/bbc_radio_manchester.m3u8
Title1=RadioManchester
length1=-1
File2=
Title2=Times Radio
Length2=-1
Version=1
These streams are live at the moment but for how long, who knows? these may well be the streams the BBC Sounds app uses so, if they are, then fair to assume they should be around for some time.
Obviously those who prefer s=wiping and tapping and searching in the Sounds app can carry on doing that, but it does look like the links found at Get-Hub should form the basis of playlists for the Stream and other newer players.
Not sure if I really have the time or appropriate skill to create full playlists, but for anyone wjp does, then that would be very welcome. In fact I do hope Humanware come up with playlists - including BBC local radio - even though local radio is now to become a ghost of its former self.
Ray.
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Hi Ray
I have downloaded the files, I will try them on the milestone later on.
Regards
Adrien
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2023 2:05 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [dap-uk] BBC HLS streams on VR Stream and other players Hi David and list. I shall have more to say shortly on these HLS BBC streams. I take it David you have played these streams using the Sense player as well as in Windows? Would be good to know if the latest Milestone player can handle them too. Just as an aside, I wonder if you have any thoughts on the workings of VLC? the streams do play in VLC on Windows but I do find VLC something of a mystery and accessability-wise very hit and miss. (Do contact me privately though if you feel this is rather OT here.) My brief reding on HLS streams suggests to me that, amongst other things, HLS streams allow for encription as well as dynamic adjustmetn of the quality at which the streams are played. this could mean that yet again these streams become unplayable if the BBC were to decide to change things again. Finally, I will comment that the VR3 has been subject to some unexpected stopping of the Radio 4 Stream I listened to last night, something I rarely get using my Synapptic phone. this could point to another bug or limitation of the VR3. I might address a comment to Mathiew on this but also that Bluetooth does not work propperly either on the VR3. I do hope this October update comes along soon as promised. Ray. On 15/10/2023 10:08 am, David Griffith via groups.io wrote: Well done again Ray.
I tried your playlist on the PC and it worked flawlessly in VLC as well.
Radio 1 starts playing and you then simply tab into a tree list to be able to cursor through all the other stations.
I am going to experiment to see if any of the streams you created or the ones I made will perform in the Evo 12, unlikely but worth trying.
David Griffith
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2023 1:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] BBC HLS streams on VR Stream and other players
Hi David and all.
Firstly, Yes, these steps were carried out on the VR Stream 3. I am sure these HLS streams won't work on the VR2, but will most likely work on the Sense player and very probably the latest player.
Since my trial I found on the get-hub site a linkk to download the playlists as .zip files. the only one of interest I am sharing via Dropbox:
.
m3u?rlkey=bpdx6ui62by9ndsaeesqyaw5k&dl=1
this is the extracted playlist for the 60 odd BBC streams. It works
directly if pasted into the root directory of the VR Stream SD card
and imported into the VR3 when in line radio facility. In fact two of
these do not work, i.e. R1 Dance and R1 Extra. Everything's in this
list, including the BBC national stations with some stations coming
rather oddly in the list, 3 Counties radio being at the end.
This playlist could obviously be rejigged to separate into BBC
national, regional, and local lists, as Pele has done in the past. I
may work on that, but no promises.
Once you know the positions of stations in this global playlist you
can skip to most of the stations immediately.
Of course I've no way of knowing how long these streams wil be
available but odds are I would have thought, that these are the
streams that BBC Sounds uses, although it could be Sounds uses a
different format for all I know.
I hope this might be a good work around for VR3 users and others at
least for the time being.
As David has said elsewhere the BBC is shouting for all its worth
about BBC Sounds which does collect everything BBC online under one
roof including podcasts - some of them more up-to-date than the widely
available many podcast the Beeb puts out.
Ray.
On 12/10/2023 06:18 pm, David Griffith via groups.io wrote:
Dear Ray
Well done
I thought initially you had achieved this on the Stream 2, but re-reading it I am not so sure - were these steps taken on a Stream 3?
David Griffith
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Subject: [dap-uk] BBC HLS streams on VR Stream and other players
Hi, to a very quiet list.
I have thought for a long time it should be possible to play BBC HLS streams on various specailist players since the demise of the Shoutcast streams. Well, it turns out I was right.
Curtacy of a post to the TAVIP list from David Griffiths, I did a
search for the Radio Manchester HLS stream. I searched for
BBC radio hls streams on get-hub
this search turned up all the BBC national and local radio streams.
I then modified a playlist as provided by Pele West some time back. (I am no tech guru, and much less a programmer!) I am going to paste in the text of the trial playlist I created at the end of this message.
With reference to the VR Stream, this text should be saved to the
route of an SD card to be inserted into the Stream,but you should be
able to see the SD card in the VR3 player by connecting it to your
computer. Having copied the file below to the SD card, making sure
the Stream is online, go to the internet radio function of the Stream
with presses of key 1
Press the number 7 menu key and you should be able to arrow to the
import playlist option. Press hash, bottom righ key of the numberic
keys, and all playlists should be imported, including the below list
which you will have given a name of your choice, but ending in .pls
This is the experimental list I imported to the Stream. Much of what is here might not be necessary, but the template I used looks much like a programmer's code script.
[playlist]
NumberOfEntries=2
File1=
hls/uk/sbr_med/ak/bbc_radio_manchester.m3u8
Title1=RadioManchester
length1=-1
File2=
Title2=Times Radio
Length2=-1
Version=1
These streams are live at the moment but for how long, who knows? these may well be the streams the BBC Sounds app uses so, if they are, then fair to assume they should be around for some time.
Obviously those who prefer s=wiping and tapping and searching in the Sounds app can carry on doing that, but it does look like the links found at Get-Hub should form the basis of playlists for the Stream and other newer players.
Not sure if I really have the time or appropriate skill to create full playlists, but for anyone wjp does, then that would be very welcome. In fact I do hope Humanware come up with playlists - including BBC local radio - even though local radio is now to become a ghost of its former self.
Ray.
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