Refer to page 9-14 of the advanced user guide to set up the radio. Also note that DV DATA FAST should be off.

Patrick (N3TSZ)

On Sunday, April 4, 2021, 07:34:43 PM EDT, Dan Goldstein <dgold94544@...> wrote:

After searching every thread, youtube video, d-rats related website, and numerous PPT and PDFs (some in foreign languages that needed translating), I am still stumped. Even so I still feel terribly foolish asking this question:

To use D-RATS on an Icom ID-51A, does the 2.5mm plug of the USB-RTS05 cable go into the MIC port or the DATA port?

What's happening:
In the?DATA port, nothing seems to happen. No messages transfer in or out. However, CS-51 programming software does connect and transfer.
In the?MIC port, the radio keys up whether D-RATS is running or not and remains keyed until unplugged but no messages transfer in or out.

Configuration:
Windows 10 (build 19041.867) 64 bit
D-RATS v0.3.9 with lzhuf_1 for 64-bit OS
WiFi manually disabled. Otherwise, even when net: settings are unchecked in D-RATS, messages get sent.
Installed the latest driver from RT Systems (2.12.8.0)
Tried COM ports 3, 7, and 17; 9600 baud, 8-N-1, flow control auto or off -- no differences here
GPS>GPS TX Mode = OFF, GPS>GPS Auto TX = OFF, GPS>GPS Set>GPS Out = OFF, DV Set>DV Data TX = Auto
Tried LOW1 and LOW2 power (recommended from another post) and high. The repeater trips but no messages transfer.

--Dan KJ6KEU Hayward CA

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Go thru? "ALL" the GPS settings once more make sure that if it says on, turn it off. I had an issue once with no Tx that turned out to be in the GPS settings, but I don't remember exactly which one.

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AL M
KF5SMH

Thanks, Al. Set the following to OFF, in addition to the previously?documented recommendations.

GPS > GPS Set > Power Save (Internal GPS)

GPS > GPS Set > GPS Indicator

Function > Power Save?

Function > Dial Speed UP? ?

Unfortunately, these changes did not resolve the issue. My next step will be to try a known good cable.

--Dan

510-305-9949

I promise to do more for social justice and economic equality; to engage, reflect, and change.

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 6:31 AM Al Massaro <almassaro1@...> wrote:

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Go thru? "ALL" the GPS settings once more make sure that if it says on, turn it off. I had an issue once with no Tx that turned out to be in the GPS settings, but I don't remember exactly which one.

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AL M
KF5SMH

Hi Dan,

Now I understand your confusion. There is not a global e-mail server for D-RATS. The D-RATS client can send messages using your internet e-mail account. But when using D-RATS on radio, you can only send messages to other D-RATS stations. Those stations may be on a simplex frequency, a repeater or on the other side of a gateway. Any D-RATS station with an internet connection can forward those messages to the internet.?This document?explains it all.

Good luck and 73

Patrick (N3TSZ)

On Tuesday, April 6, 2021, 07:18:32 PM EDT, Dan Goldstein <dgold94544@...> wrote:

With another cable, no change. Perhaps my test assumptions are wrong.

Will a D-RATS station connected only over radio to a D-STAR repeater, itself connected to the Internet, be capable of transmitting email? Or does that email transmission require sending via an Internet-connected station?

--Dan

510-305-9949

I promise to do more for social justice and economic equality; to engage, reflect, and change.

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 7:56 AM Dan Goldstein via <dgold94544=[email protected]> wrote:

Thanks, Al. Set the following to OFF, in addition to the previously?documented recommendations.

GPS > GPS Set > Power Save (Internal GPS)

GPS > GPS Set > GPS Indicator

Function > Power Save?

Function > Dial Speed UP? ?

Unfortunately, these changes did not resolve the issue. My next step will be to try a known good cable.

--Dan

510-305-9949

I promise to do more for social justice and economic equality; to engage, reflect, and change.

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 6:31 AM Al Massaro <almassaro1@...> wrote:

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Go thru? "ALL" the GPS settings once more make sure that if it says on, turn it off. I had an issue once with no Tx that turned out to be in the GPS settings, but I don't remember exactly which one.

--
AL M
KF5SMH

You can automate the ping process by setting Preferences>Messages>Station TTL to 600 seconds (10 minutes). When a message is places in the outbox, if the target station is not on the station list, or more than 10 minutes old, D-RATS will ping the station before attempting to send the message.

Patrick (N3TSZ)

On Thursday, May 20, 2021, 08:00:40 AM EDT, Michael Mandell <mikemandell@...> wrote:

Our group practices this all the time. "Email" as used radio to radio in D-Rats may be confusing. It's just a digital radio message using something that kind of looks like an email client and form. It is NOT email as you normally think of internet email. You can actually send internet email, though. D-Rats can use an old-fashioned POP/SMTP account (you may still be able to use this with modern stuff like hotmail and others...gmail may no longer work due to Google security and how old D-Rats mail client is). It works much like sending WinLink email using Telnet....no radio involved. Goes right from your PC over the internet. However, a fantastic feature of D-Rats is the ability to use another stations POP/SMTP account to forward internet email for you if you don't have internet where you are. This is a little involved in setup, and as Patrick said, you the station doing the forwarding has to allow your call to forward through his setup. This is incredibly slick.?

One thing to keep in mind when you are sending any kind of digital D-Rats message to another station...D-Rats will sit there doing nothing if that station does not appear in the active stations list on your D-Rats program. In fact, it has to be pretty current (not sure how many minutes). A good practice is to "Ping" the desired station then go ahead and "send and receive" traffic. Otherwise, D-Rats will often do nothing while it waits until the other station is active again.?