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Since most of the RT Systems cables are pretty much proprietary,
I would try a basic cable and see what happens. That is about the
only thing you haven't tried.
Mick - W7CAT
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----- Original Message -----
From: "James Boltzmann via groups.io"
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 04:38:37 PM
Subject: Re: [d-rats] D-rats not keying ID-51A
> [Edited Message Follows]
> [Reason: problem is not d-rats but d-star, looking for a
solution]
>
> Hi, this is Jim K6NRA.? Helping a friend out who has a ID-51A
Plus. We have not been able to get the radio to xmit, as the
previous discussion indicated.? I know I have the correct com
port, that is, device manager matches the one used in radio
preferences.? Also the cable I've been using works fine for radio
programing, so I know the cable is good.? I even purchased the
software from RT Systems, a lot more user-friendly than the Icom
s/w.
>
> I've checked my radio settings as per this thread, the radio
via the computer will not key up.
>
> If I use DRATS with my ICOM 92AD, works fine, of course, I
had to use the special Icom cable with usb-rs-232 adaptor, so I
know everything on the computer side is good.
>
> edit:? Previous sentence, DRATS works fine with my ICOM 92AD
on SIMPLEX, turns out it does not work through our local DSTAR
repeater (2m).? After doing many factory resets, making tiny
changes in the radio programming, still having problems with the
92. What was found, some operator's radios signals (voice or data)
will make it through the repeater but not everybody's radios will
make it to my 92.? I'm afraid I've been barking up the wrong tree
here, now believing the problem has to be with the other user's
radio, in this case an Icom 2820.? It's as though like analog, if
the 2820 transmitted with a PL code and the repeater passed it,
and thus the 92 opens up, vs, a 2820 not encoding the output with
a pl code and thus the 92 not picking up the data.
>
> I know DSTAR does not use PL codes (analog or digital), so
what could be missing in the 2820 programming?? I know this is
more of a DSTAR issue, not a D-RATS issue but by using D-RATS is
how the problem was identified.? Just need the fix.??? -? Jim
k6nra
>
> Is there such a thing as setting the radio back to factory
defaults, as I don't know what settings the owner did. - solved
>
> I've got a full head of hair right now, but it isn't going to
last long as I keep pulling it out, I've spent lots of hours on
this thing.? The only thing I didn't do is look at the RS-232
voltages going into and from the radio. - problem solved
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
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Right, none of the RT system cables I have can not be used to control radios, only to program them.
Jim k6nra
------ Original Message ------
From: "Teton Amateur Radio Repeater Association (TARRA)" < tarra@...> Sent: 6/11/2022 1:28:58 PM
Subject: Re: [d-rats] D-rats not keying ID-51A
Since most of the RT Systems cables are pretty much proprietary,
I would try a basic cable and see what happens. That is about the
only thing you haven't tried.
Mick - W7CAT
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Boltzmann via groups.io"
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 04:38:37 PM
Subject: Re: [d-rats] D-rats not keying ID-51A
> [Edited Message Follows]
> [Reason: problem is not d-rats but d-star, looking for a
solution]
>
> Hi, this is Jim K6NRA.? Helping a friend out who has a ID-51A
Plus. We have not been able to get the radio to xmit, as the
previous discussion indicated.? I know I have the correct com
port, that is, device manager matches the one used in radio
preferences.? Also the cable I've been using works fine for radio
programing, so I know the cable is good.? I even purchased the
software from RT Systems, a lot more user-friendly than the Icom
s/w.
>
> I've checked my radio settings as per this thread, the radio
via the computer will not key up.
>
> If I use DRATS with my ICOM 92AD, works fine, of course, I
had to use the special Icom cable with usb-rs-232 adaptor, so I
know everything on the computer side is good.
>
> edit:? Previous sentence, DRATS works fine with my ICOM 92AD
on SIMPLEX, turns out it does not work through our local DSTAR
repeater (2m).? After doing many factory resets, making tiny
changes in the radio programming, still having problems with the
92. What was found, some operator's radios signals (voice or data)
will make it through the repeater but not everybody's radios will
make it to my 92.? I'm afraid I've been barking up the wrong tree
here, now believing the problem has to be with the other user's
radio, in this case an Icom 2820.? It's as though like analog, if
the 2820 transmitted with a PL code and the repeater passed it,
and thus the 92 opens up, vs, a 2820 not encoding the output with
a pl code and thus the 92 not picking up the data.
>
> I know DSTAR does not use PL codes (analog or digital), so
what could be missing in the 2820 programming?? I know this is
more of a DSTAR issue, not a D-RATS issue but by using D-RATS is
how the problem was identified.? Just need the fix.??? -? Jim
k6nra
>
> Is there such a thing as setting the radio back to factory
defaults, as I don't know what settings the owner did. - solved
>
> I've got a full head of hair right now, but it isn't going to
last long as I keep pulling it out, I've spent lots of hours on
this thing.? The only thing I didn't do is look at the RS-232
voltages going into and from the radio. - problem solved
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Jim: ?
I have tried the RT System cable on my ID 5100 and DRats with no success. ?It sounds like you have done something like having a radio working with DRats with some cable. Then leaving the settings the same just switched to an RT Systems cable and found it did not work. ?Is that correct? ?For Icom radios to work DRats is the ICOM cable the only one that will work? ?Are there other cables you know will work?
Thanks in advance for your help and 73,
Rod Whitaker KA5MYE
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On Jun 12, 2022, at 12:37 AM, James Holtzman via groups.io <emptech@...> wrote:
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Right, none of the RT system cables I have can not be used to control radios, only to program them.
Jim k6nra
------ Original Message ------
From: "Teton Amateur Radio Repeater Association (TARRA)" < tarra@...> Sent: 6/11/2022 1:28:58 PM
Subject: Re: [d-rats] D-rats not keying ID-51A
Since most of the RT Systems cables are pretty much proprietary,
I would try a basic cable and see what happens. That is about the
only thing you haven't tried.
Mick - W7CAT
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Boltzmann via groups.io"
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 04:38:37 PM
Subject: Re: [d-rats] D-rats not keying ID-51A
> [Edited Message Follows]
> [Reason: problem is not d-rats but d-star, looking for a
solution]
>
> Hi, this is Jim K6NRA.? Helping a friend out who has a ID-51A
Plus. We have not been able to get the radio to xmit, as the
previous discussion indicated.? I know I have the correct com
port, that is, device manager matches the one used in radio
preferences.? Also the cable I've been using works fine for radio
programing, so I know the cable is good.? I even purchased the
software from RT Systems, a lot more user-friendly than the Icom
s/w.
>
> I've checked my radio settings as per this thread, the radio
via the computer will not key up.
>
> If I use DRATS with my ICOM 92AD, works fine, of course, I
had to use the special Icom cable with usb-rs-232 adaptor, so I
know everything on the computer side is good.
>
> edit:? Previous sentence, DRATS works fine with my ICOM 92AD
on SIMPLEX, turns out it does not work through our local DSTAR
repeater (2m).? After doing many factory resets, making tiny
changes in the radio programming, still having problems with the
92. What was found, some operator's radios signals (voice or data)
will make it through the repeater but not everybody's radios will
make it to my 92.? I'm afraid I've been barking up the wrong tree
here, now believing the problem has to be with the other user's
radio, in this case an Icom 2820.? It's as though like analog, if
the 2820 transmitted with a PL code and the repeater passed it,
and thus the 92 opens up, vs, a 2820 not encoding the output with
a pl code and thus the 92 not picking up the data.
>
> I know DSTAR does not use PL codes (analog or digital), so
what could be missing in the 2820 programming?? I know this is
more of a DSTAR issue, not a D-RATS issue but by using D-RATS is
how the problem was identified.? Just need the fix.??? -? Jim
k6nra
>
> Is there such a thing as setting the radio back to factory
defaults, as I don't know what settings the owner did. - solved
>
> I've got a full head of hair right now, but it isn't going to
last long as I keep pulling it out, I've spent lots of hours on
this thing.? The only thing I didn't do is look at the RS-232
voltages going into and from the radio. - problem solved
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I would suggest double checking all of your Radio settings to be sure they are correct per the D-RATS suggested settings. What version of D-RATS are you running?
I use the RT Systems USB-RTS05 (orange cable) for all of my Icom radios. D-RATS works fine on all of them; ID-5100, ID-51a Plus, ID-880H and both of my IC-2820's. I have not found anything that I cannot do with this "proprietary" cable vs any other, either Icom or homebrew. The ID-51 DATA port outer diameter is smaller than standard, so make sure the cable end is all the way in. Homebrew cables may not fit, and need to have the outer housing trimmed slightly.
Note: The program only looks to see if the COM Port is connected, not the radio itself, so a bad connection at the radio will give you a No TX situation.
Jeff
VE7GIE
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For the 5100, the data cable is easy to make, same cable used on the 2820 and others, diagram is out there. Usually rt systems cables are only for programming with rt software.
Jim k6nra
On Jun 12, 2022 4:28 AM, "Whitaker, Rod" <whitake1@...> wrote: Jim: ?
I have tried the RT System cable on my ID 5100 and DRats with no success. ?It sounds like you have done something like having a radio working with DRats with some cable. Then leaving the settings the same just switched to an RT Systems cable and found it did not work. ?Is that correct? ?For Icom radios to work DRats is the ICOM cable the only one that will work? ?Are there other cables you know will work?
Thanks in advance for your help and 73,
Rod Whitaker KA5MYE On Jun 12, 2022, at 12:37 AM, James Holtzman via groups.io <emptech@...> wrote:
?
Right, none of the RT system cables I have can not be used to control radios, only to program them.
Jim k6nra
------ Original Message ------
From: "Teton Amateur Radio Repeater Association (TARRA)" < tarra@...> Sent: 6/11/2022 1:28:58 PM
Subject: Re: [d-rats] D-rats not keying ID-51A
Since most of the RT Systems cables are pretty much proprietary,
I would try a basic cable and see what happens. That is about the
only thing you haven't tried.
Mick - W7CAT
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Boltzmann via groups.io"
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 04:38:37 PM
Subject: Re: [d-rats] D-rats not keying ID-51A
> [Edited Message Follows]
> [Reason: problem is not d-rats but d-star, looking for a
solution]
>
> Hi, this is Jim K6NRA.? Helping a friend out who has a ID-51A
Plus. We have not been able to get the radio to xmit, as the
previous discussion indicated.? I know I have the correct com
port, that is, device manager matches the one used in radio
preferences.? Also the cable I've been using works fine for radio
programing, so I know the cable is good.? I even purchased the
software from RT Systems, a lot more user-friendly than the Icom
s/w.
>
> I've checked my radio settings as per this thread, the radio
via the computer will not key up.
>
> If I use DRATS with my ICOM 92AD, works fine, of course, I
had to use the special Icom cable with usb-rs-232 adaptor, so I
know everything on the computer side is good.
>
> edit:? Previous sentence, DRATS works fine with my ICOM 92AD
on SIMPLEX, turns out it does not work through our local DSTAR
repeater (2m).? After doing many factory resets, making tiny
changes in the radio programming, still having problems with the
92. What was found, some operator's radios signals (voice or data)
will make it through the repeater but not everybody's radios will
make it to my 92.? I'm afraid I've been barking up the wrong tree
here, now believing the problem has to be with the other user's
radio, in this case an Icom 2820.? It's as though like analog, if
the 2820 transmitted with a PL code and the repeater passed it,
and thus the 92 opens up, vs, a 2820 not encoding the output with
a pl code and thus the 92 not picking up the data.
>
> I know DSTAR does not use PL codes (analog or digital), so
what could be missing in the 2820 programming?? I know this is
more of a DSTAR issue, not a D-RATS issue but by using D-RATS is
how the problem was identified.? Just need the fix.??? -? Jim
k6nra
>
> Is there such a thing as setting the radio back to factory
defaults, as I don't know what settings the owner did. - solved
>
> I've got a full head of hair right now, but it isn't going to
last long as I keep pulling it out, I've spent lots of hours on
this thing.? The only thing I didn't do is look at the RS-232
voltages going into and from the radio. - problem solved
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
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