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OK, I'll bite, what's a Crup DStar Program? Is this something new?

Duffy
www.wb8nut.com

Hello All,

You may not remember the stage play and movie West Side Story, but in one scene
between the Police Officer [Crupke (sp)] and the Jets gang they tell him to 'Crup You' and
made a very rude, crass hand sign.

During a practice session, in mixed chorus, the singers completely carried out the
movement and the Music teacher turned 5 shades of RED!!! One rather embarrassed
young lady.

PS. We recorded the performance at Huntsville High; Huntsville AL in 1968 - I still
have my copy of the record as I was a member of the Mixed Chorus during that year as a
Senior.



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I know this question is kind of old, but if you can't remove it using control panel, according to the
d-rats documentation, because it is such a simple installation, all you have to do is delete the
entire d-rats directory.? The program does not use the system registry at all.

Since I offered this, does anybody know where d-rats stores its settings?? They are in some
file in the d-rats directory tree somewhere, I haven't had luck finding the file.? I'm trying to find
a way to save the settings so I can share them with others, rather than changing one item at
a time.

Thanks -? Jim? k6nra

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The answer depends on the operating system:


Windows:?? $SystemDrive:\Users\$USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\D-RATS
? --> If you can't find this directory in File Explorer, you have to enable the displaying of hidden directories

Linux:?? ??? ~$USER/.d-rats

--David
KI6ZHD

David:

I'm running win7 prof.? I have it showing hidden and system files.
Under that path, under roaming, no d-rats directory.

A few days ago I went through the installation directory, checking the
"date modified" on files, I've never seen where a file was written to and
the date not changed, settings have been changed but no files show a
recent date.? There were many files there, and I have to admit, it was
late and I could have missed something.

I wonder where else the settings could be stored.? I suppose I could try
a brute force method, completely remove all d-rats s/w, re-install and check
to see if it has my old settings, if it did, that would tell me the settings are stored
elsewhere.

Although the manual said it didn't use the registry, I searched it too, no luck there.

Thanks for getting back to me.? I have some other problems too, but better to find
a previous thread or start a new one, rather than hijack this one.

Jim



At 03:43 PM 9/9/2014, you wrote:

?


The answer depends on the operating system:


Windows:? ?? $SystemDrive:\Users\$USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\D-RATS
?? --> If you can't find this directory in File Explorer, you have to enable the displaying of hidden directories

Linux:? ?? ? ? ?? ~$USER/.d-rats

--David
KI6ZHD



On 09/09/2014 03:17 PM, emptech@... [d-rats_group] wrote:

??

I know this question is kind of old, but if you can't remove it using control panel, according to the
d-rats documentation, because it is such a simple installation, all you have to do is delete the
entire d-rats directory.?? The program does not use the system registry at all.

Since I offered this, does anybody know where d-rats stores its settings??? They are in some
file in the d-rats directory tree somewhere, I haven't had luck finding the file.?? I'm trying to find
a way to save the settings so I can share them with others, rather than changing one item at
a time.

James R. Holtzman
Empirical Technology
Carmichael, CA? 95608
(916) 487-9712
emptech@...

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Hello Jim,

That's the behavior I have here on Win7 Enterprise SP1 though I'm bound to a corporate Active Directory tree.? I assume you rant the installer for 0.3.3?? If it helps, I have the following in that top level directory:
--
Form_Templates
logs
maps
messages
static_locations
debug.log
d-rats.config
repeater.config
repeater.log
--

--David

David:

I have been using 0.3.3 up until today, when I downloaded and installed daily 02172012.
I noticed as it installed, deleted a bunch of previous files and I assume replaced them with
new ones. My directory tree looks nothing like what you are showing. I have nothing important
to save, I'm thinking about just deleting the entire directory tree and re-installing.

The reason I went to the daily version, I've been having problems with loosing control of my 92ad,
that is, sometimes it would xmit, and most of the time it wouldn't. I also downloaded the latest version
of my usb-rs-232 adaptor.

I actually have three problems, but I want to solve one at a time. My other problem, won't connect
to the internet. I have a new MikroTik router, which has a complicated setup, and when I get it all
figured out, I'll have to deal with its firewall and port forwarding.

Jim

At 04:45 PM 9/9/2014, you wrote:

Hello Jim,

That's the behavior I have here on Win7 Enterprise SP1 though I'm bound to a corporate Active Directory tree. I assume you rant the installer for 0.3.3? If it helps, I have the following in that top level directory:
--
<DIR> Form_Templates
<DIR> logs
<DIR> maps
<DIR> messages
<DIR> static_locations
debug.log
d-rats.config
repeater.config
repeater.log
--

--David

James R. Holtzman
Empirical Technology
Carmichael, CA 95608
(916) 487-9712
emptech@...

David:

I uninstalled the program using control panel. I then went in and manually removed
the d-rats directory tree.

I reinstalled the older version, 0.3.3 or whatever it is. Brought the program up, and it
retained all of my old settings, so that sort of proves that the settings are stored outside
of the d-rats directory. I know, others have said it's hidden and I'll continue looking for
it.

My directory still looks nothing like what you show below, strange.

I just found this yahoo group yesterday after looking all over the internet for a d-rats forum.
You have been most helpful.

Back to the drawing board - Jim

At 04:45 PM 9/9/2014, you wrote:

Hello Jim,

That's the behavior I have here on Win7 Enterprise SP1 though I'm bound to a corporate Active Directory tree. I assume you rant the installer for 0.3.3? If it helps, I have the following in that top level directory:
--
<DIR> Form_Templates
<DIR> logs
<DIR> maps
<DIR> messages
<DIR> static_locations
debug.log
d-rats.config
repeater.config
repeater.log
--

--David

James R. Holtzman
Empirical Technology
Carmichael, CA 95608
(916) 487-9712
emptech@...

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Hey Jim,

?

I have been using 0.3.3 up until today, when I downloaded and
installed daily 02172012.

Hmmm.. why such an old daily?? The newest daily is 04/17/2014 @

The reason I went to the daily version, I've been having problems
with loosing control of my 92ad,
that is, sometimes it would xmit, and most of the time it
wouldn't. I also downloaded the latest version
of my usb-rs-232 adaptor.

What kind of serial chip is in your USB adapter?? counterfit prolific, real prolific, FTDI, Si, etc??? If you have a cheap adapter using the counterfit chip, running the newest drivers will actually hurt you.? Read this:

??

I actually have three problems, but I want to solve one at a
time. My other problem, won't connect
to the internet. I have a new MikroTik router, which has a
complicated setup, and when I get it all
figured out, I'll have to deal with its firewall and port forwarding.

D-RATS doesn't seen to require any port forwards.? It connects to the pre-defined "RAT flector" and just works.

--David

David:

Problem solved. After uninstalling, re-installing, going to c:&#92;users&#92;holtzman&#92;appdata&#92;roaming,
now have d-rats. I could swear it was not there before, but there it is, and the config file is
a plain text file, just what I wanted.

OK people, you can close the trouble ticket on this one!

Now back to two other problems, the problem keying up the radio may be gone, I downloaded
the latest prolific drivers for my adaptor, may have solved the problem, not keying up the radio,
time will tell.

The problem connecting to the internet, until I get the router going right, I think that's going to
still be a problem.

But, can it be something as simple as a windoze firewall setting? I went into the firewall settings
and told it to add r-rats as acceptable, still a problem.

I just saw my screen try to put out a cqcqcq, all in yellow, if I recall that means it didn't go out, right?

Jim

At 04:45 PM 9/9/2014, you wrote:

Hello Jim,

That's the behavior I have here on Win7 Enterprise SP1 though I'm bound to a corporate Active Directory tree. I assume you rant the installer for 0.3.3? If it helps, I have the following in that top level directory:
--
<DIR> Form_Templates
<DIR> logs
<DIR> maps
<DIR> messages
<DIR> static_locations
debug.log
d-rats.config
repeater.config
repeater.log
--

--David

James R. Holtzman
Empirical Technology
Carmichael, CA 95608
(916) 487-9712
emptech@...

David:

Didn't see that one, I'll download it.

Thanks

At 05:30 PM 9/9/2014, you wrote:

?


Hey Jim,

?

I have been using 0.3.3 up until today, when I downloaded and
installed daily 02172012.

Hmmm.. why such an old daily?? The newest daily is 04/17/2014 @

The reason I went to the daily version, I've been having problems
with loosing control of my 92ad,
that is, sometimes it would xmit, and most of the time it
wouldn't. I also downloaded the latest version
of my usb-rs-232 adaptor.

What kind of serial chip is in your USB adapter?? counterfit prolific, real prolific, FTDI, Si, etc??? If you have a cheap adapter using the counterfit chip, running the newest drivers will actually hurt you.? Read this:

??

I actually have three problems, but I want to solve one at a
time. My other problem, won't connect
to the internet. I have a new MikroTik router, which has a
complicated setup, and when I get it all
figured out, I'll have to deal with its firewall and port forwarding.

D-RATS doesn't seen to require any port forwards.? It connects to the pre-defined "RAT flector" and just works.

--David

James R. Holtzman
Empirical Technology
Carmichael, CA? 95608
(916) 487-9712
emptech@...

The port speed for the 92AD should be 38400. If you leave it set to the default of 9600 you will encounter the types of issues you have been describing.

David:

The brand name on the adaptor is Trendnet, model tu-s9, I sell computer products, it's
a brand I sell, did a driver update with windoze, it downloaded the prolific driver.? So far
seems to be working.? I haven't read the article about counterfeit chips yet, will do.

Dumb question, I went to the url where it has all the comments.? Looks like a lot of source
code for fixes.? What do I do to upgrade my version?? I clicked on the zip, downloaded
the file to a directory and expanded it, but that doesn't look like what I want, is it?? I was
expecting to see a setup, install, or d-rats.exe file there, did I miss it?

BTW, I saw the table of baud rates, yes, I have my 92AD at 38.5K, both in the program and
set with the device manager.? I remember with the 2820s, the driver set to 38K isn't a problem
but the program had to be set to 9600.? There seemed to be confusion as to what baud rate
the device itself had to be.

Jim

At 05:30 PM 9/9/2014, you wrote:

?


Hey Jim,

?

I have been using 0.3.3 up until today, when I downloaded and
installed daily 02172012.

Hmmm.. why such an old daily?? The newest daily is 04/17/2014 @

James R. Holtzman
Empirical Technology
Carmichael, CA? 95608
(916) 487-9712
emptech@...

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So, according to the tables I've seen, the 92AD should be 38.4K, understood.? How about the baud rate of the
com port itself via the device manager?

Jim

At 05:39 PM 9/9/2014, you wrote:

?

The port speed for the 92AD should be 38400. If you leave it set to the default of 9600 you will encounter the types of issues you have been describing.
Patrick (N3TSZ)

James R. Holtzman
Empirical Technology
Carmichael, CA? 95608
(916) 487-9712
emptech@...