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Anyone know what Request Mail Check is supposed to do?
Hello All,
This weekend I tried the "Request Mail Check" on the side pane for stations that have been heard or are otherwise known to d-rats. Does anyone know what this feature is supposed to do? The existing code does not work for many reasons, so in order to make it work, I need to know what it was intended to do. 73, -John wb8tyw |
John,
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I believe it was supposed to be a way to check a store and forward email server. Check with Glen Strecker as I believe he has used the feature most recently. I am not at home at the moment so can’t check my notes. My guess is that you need to have a server in your heard online list and that server must hold emails for you. This would be an over the air forwarding system as it is meaningless on the inet. Jack KD4IZ On May 31, 2022, at 08:40, John E. Malmberg <wb8tyw@...> wrote: |
According to this manual:? It states on page 18 simply: "Check if a station is holding mail for you." On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 8:40 AM John E. Malmberg <wb8tyw@...> wrote: Hello All, --
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I have checked in the patch to my fork to stop it from crashing if anyone can figure out how to test that feature.
I currently am looking at re-writing the menu_handler for message folders as is crashing for python3 GTK-3 when I right click on a message folder to bring it up. On 5/31/2022 9:04 AM, Dave Slotter, W3DJS wrote: According to this manual:73, -John wb8tyw |
Hi John, Here is the use case scenario: Your D-RATS station does not does not access to the internet (deployed in the field or mobile, using a radio). You select a station from the list and right-click and select Request Mail Check. IF the station you select has an Internet connection AND has your E-mail settings saved under E-mail Accounts, will query your E-mail account. I do not know if the E-mail will be downloaded and transferred to the requesting station, or just notified if you have messages waiting. Patrick (N3TSZ)
On Tuesday, May 31, 2022, 08:40:17 AM EDT, John E. Malmberg <wb8tyw@...> wrote:
Hello All, This weekend I tried the "Request Mail Check" on the side pane for stations that have been heard or are otherwise known to d-rats. Does anyone know what this feature is supposed to do? The existing code does not work for many reasons, so in order to make it work, I need to know what it was intended to do. 73, -John wb8tyw |
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The mailcheck button asks for you to select an account, and gives a choice of the locally configured accounts, and an additional account named "Other" is is created by the mailcheck button and added to the list. For the 0.3.x D-rats, It looks like the intent is for the first account in your configuration is the default, but that is not guaranteed. All the data, existed or entered into the dialog is then ignored for because it was marked sensitive. (Field disabled for reading). The existing code in the master branch then has a bug at line 78 in main_stations.py that should crash d-rats. It is calling the choose_account handler, but passing the wrong type of python object as the parameter. That call should not be there. Once that bug is removed, for me so far, the remote machine refuses the connection, claiming name or service not known. So it does not look like anyone using the actually able to use this feature with recent versions of d-rats. 73, -John wb8tyw On 6/1/2022 7:16 AM, Patrick Connor via groups.io wrote:
Hi John,Here is the use case scenario:Your D-RATS station does not does not access to the internet (deployed in the field or mobile, using a radio).You select a station from the list and right-click and select Request Mail Check.IF the station you select has an Internet connection AND has your E-mail settings saved under E-mail Accounts, will query your E-mail account. I do not know if the E-mail will be downloaded and transferred to the requesting station, or just notified if you have messages waiting. |
That may very well be true. There are several features in D-RATS that Dan started working on, but never followed through to the end. This may be another one. Speaking of which, the AGWPE connection in the D-RATS repeater never worked. I would to connect is to a soundcard TNC, like Direwolf. I hope you can look into that, when you get a chance (it does work on the D-RATS client). Thanks, Patrick (N3TSZ)
On Thursday, June 2, 2022, 09:02:42 AM EDT, John E. Malmberg <wb8tyw@...> wrote:
Hello Patrick, All, The mailcheck button asks for you to select an account, and gives a choice of the locally configured accounts, and an additional account named "Other" is is created by the mailcheck button and added to the list. For the 0.3.x D-rats, It looks like the intent is for the first account in your configuration is the default, but that is not guaranteed. All the data, existed or entered into the dialog is then ignored for because it was marked sensitive. (Field disabled for reading). The existing code in the master branch then has a bug at line 78 in main_stations.py that should crash d-rats.? It is calling the choose_account handler, but passing the wrong type of python object as the parameter. That call should not be there. Once that bug is removed, for me so far, the remote machine refuses the connection, claiming name or service not known. So it does not look like anyone using the actually able to use this feature with recent versions of d-rats. 73, -John wb8tyw On 6/1/2022 7:16 AM, Patrick Connor via groups.io wrote: > Hi John,Here is the use case scenario:Your D-RATS station does not does not access to the internet (deployed in the field or mobile, using a radio).You select a station from the list and right-click and select Request Mail Check.IF the station you select has an Internet connection AND has your E-mail settings saved under E-mail Accounts, will query your E-mail account. I do not know if the E-mail will be downloaded and transferred to the requesting station, or just notified if you have messages waiting. > Patrick (N3TSZ) |
Patrick,
I have never been able to get the Request Mail Check to work.??From the look of the thing, it allows the requesting station to pass its account credentials and password to the other station to have it check for email.??Every time I have tried it between my two stations I get an error message back from the ratflector. Mail check via KG5CEN-1: Failed ([Errno-2] Name or Service not known).??I don’t know what the problem is.??I even changed out of using gmail because Google decided that it would continually lock access to the account out to what it considers “less secure” apps.??I am now using accounts through outlook.com to forward messages to normal Internet accounts.? ?I have never seen the feature documented in the instruction documents. To others interested in this topic, this has nothing to do with leaving mail for an offline or off the air station callsign with another station.??K3PDR and KG5CEN-1 both act as Mail and File Servers where you can leave a message to another D-Rats user not currently visible in the list of active stations.??(KG5CEN-1 is the StTammany.ratflector.com ratflector).??The feature we are discussing is supposed to allow a station in an area where the Internet is not available to check for Internet or Winlink emails through a station that still has Internet access.??It appears that the requesting station is sending the credentials (user name and password) to the station being asked to do the check.??The password is obscured so the other station cannot see it.??This is not a feature that I personally have never tried to use in the past, so I don’t know if it has ever worked. The feature would probably be for inbound traffic only.??If you had outbound traffic, it possibly would be forwarded by using the SEND VIA command to another station that had Internet access for outbound traffic.?? Cordially,
Glen P. Strecker
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