Refer to page 10-22 of the IC-9700 Advanced Manual.
Patrick (N3TSZ)
On Friday, November 6, 2020, 07:57:41 AM EST, <jdavid91@...> wrote:
HI I m trying to configure Drats on my IC 9700 . Does anyone has the radio settings to make IC 9700 work with Drats?
Very Respectfully?
NP3JD
Jose David
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HI I m trying to configure Drats on my IC 9700 . Does anyone has the radio settings to make IC 9700 work with Drats?
Very Respectfully?
NP3JD
Jose David
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Re: Concatenation of addresses in D-Rats
This is an old thread but in our group in PA we can't get D-Rats to send email to more than one address using any punctuation. It doesn't work using the D-Rats email client directly...no RF...either. Only sends to the first address.
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Re: Minor progress on D-rats
On 10/27/2020 9:51 AM, dale finley wrote: I would like to Beta test the ¡°new DRats¡±, when it¡¯s available. Along with
my other digital voice modes, like Peanut, BlueDV and direct DMR, DStar &
Fusion radios, I believe DRats would round out a set of perfect voice &
data modes in case of emergency events. And, it would be nice if the new
DRats works on iPhones & Android. IMHO. de kb5nft At this point, I am not working on a "NEW" D-rats. An android port would likely be a total re-write from scratch, as would an I-phone version. I am just trying to get the current one working with supported libraries, preferably from signed packages. And hopefully along the way I can get the protocols and maybe some other features documented. I only have a minor update to my Wiki this week. Not yet in the Wiki is that I have succeeded in getting the Ratflector to start up using the newer GTK-3 libraries and Python 3. The ratflector started up OK with Python 2 and GTK-3, but when I ran it under Python3, it found a whole bunch more changes were needed to get the log clean. Have not had time to test it as I need to update all the d-rats modules to GTK-3, and that looks like it will be a lot of work. A lot of things have changed from the old pygtk2 that d-rats was written for and GTK-3. Regards, -John WB8TYW
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Re: Minor progress on D-rats
If anyone is digging into the code here- it might be good to look at state of the radio art emergency management apps.? I¡¯m not talking about Winlink.? The Cajun Navy Relief team uses this one for rescue dispatch: ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Haas
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 8:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [d-rats] Minor progress on D-rats ? ??????????? KF7UJX rookie Technician-level Michael Haas proudly joins Danny in the technical d-rats savvy department. ? Which explains why I¡¯ve backed off SFARES for the time-being. ?Nevertheless I am the proud owner of 100-yards of string and two cans that can communicate in a pinch. ?Flowers, Beer, Pizza, count me in too? ?Moving next week to a mountain top (where Hyde Park Rd crests) home facing Santa Fe, which would seem to offer some interestng antenna possibilties if the HOA permits. ??????????? Cheers!
On Oct 27, 2020, at 7:32 AM, Daniel Boggiano via <dboggny@...> wrote: ? Thank you for taking on the task. D rats is really to good of a program to let die. I can¡¯t program or anything but if I can do anything please ask. I can do things like send pizza and beer or flowers, stuff like that.? best
danny
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Re: Minor progress on D-rats
I would like to Beta test the ¡°new DRats¡±, when it¡¯s available. Along with my other digital voice modes, like Peanut, BlueDV and direct DMR, DStar & Fusion radios, I believe DRats would round out a set of perfect voice & data modes in case of emergency events. And, it would be nice if the new DRats works on iPhones & Android. IMHO. de kb5nft
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 8:32 AM Daniel Boggiano via <dboggny= [email protected]> wrote: Thank you for taking on the task. D rats is really to good of a program to let die. I can¡¯t program or anything but if I can do anything please ask. I can do things like send pizza and beer or flowers, stuff like that.?
best
danny
-- Cell 214-244-2100 Do Not Publish Please. ? Ham Radio Operator KB5NFT, Dale Finley, ARRL NTX ASEC, ?Red Cross, MRC, CERT.? Ham Interest - Winlink, HF/VHF/UHF, MESH, Routers, PSK, FSQ, DStar, Echolink/IRLP, APrS, ARES/RACES, Storm Spotter. RV'er, Facebook, Twitter, Retired...Google me.
73's
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Re: Minor progress on D-rats
KF7UJX rookie Technician-level Michael Haas proudly joins Danny in the technical d-rats savvy department. ? Which explains why I¡¯ve backed off SFARES for the time-being. ?Nevertheless I am the proud owner of 100-yards of string and two cans that can communicate in a pinch. ?Flowers, Beer, Pizza, count me in too? ?Moving next week to a mountain top (where Hyde Park Rd crests) home facing Santa Fe, which would seem to offer some interestng antenna possibilties if the HOA permits.
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On Oct 27, 2020, at 7:32 AM, Daniel Boggiano via < dboggny@...> wrote:
Thank you for taking on the task. D rats is really to good of a program to let die. I can¡¯t program or anything but if I can do anything please ask. I can do things like send pizza and beer or flowers, stuff like that.? best
danny
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Re: Minor progress on D-rats
Thank you for taking on the task. D rats is really to good of a program to let die. I can¡¯t program or anything but if I can do anything please ask. I can do things like send pizza and beer or flowers, stuff like that.?
best
danny
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The good news is that I got a development environment running on anti-X linux. I can run it in debug through the visual studio code IDE there.
The bad news is that I can not find current packages for getting the current d-rats working on
I can not figure out how to Visual Studio Code to set the environment variables that are needed for the msys2 environment. Visual Studio code developers are just not interested in supporting anything other than the WSL environment for using Linux packages.
And I can not find a current package for libxml-python2 either in msys2 or in Pypi.
So it looks like the next step is to start converting to python3.
Regards.
-John
wb8tyw
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The forms in Winlink are HTML.? They use the
server in RMS Express to create an XML file that is sent with
the email.? D-RATS used to do something similar, but the forms
weren't HTML.? It was very difficult to create new forms, having
created several.? Doing an HTML form and building a server into
D-RATS to do the same thing that RMS Express is doing would be a
good thing.? I wish I had more time to help this project.? It
would be fun.?
Thanks
David, AC7DS
On 10/17/20 3:32 AM, Michael Mandell
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Anybody know how to design nice looking forms like WinLink
Express has? Red Cross got all their special forms (some unique,
some tweaked from ICS stuff) with their logo, etc. into WinLink.
My suspicion is the WinLink people continue to try to push their
system for emcomm and building nice forms for a major served
agency helps serve their purpose. In an exercise some months ago
with ARC, some of the forms were kind of ported to FLDigi for
use by the PA ARES groups, who are FLDigi (not WinLink) groups.
In the most recent exercise, this was not going to be allowed
and it was 100 percent WinLink (and the nice forms). Here in our
area, we have focused on D-Rats for emcomm (we have no WinLink
VHF/UHF RMS around here, as is the case in most places) but the
forms section of D-Rats is rudimentary at best. Served agencies
seem to want info but on their own form, too. I know this is xml
stuff, but if anybody has delved into this and possibly how to
convert forms from those already fabricated in WinLink Express
or FLDigi, that would be a strong point for the D-Rats group
here.?
Unless I am missing something, using D-Rats with internet email
relay is at least as powerful as WinLink without the necessity
of an RMS. The only drawback to D-Rats is lack of the nice
customized forms WinLink Express has. Thanks.
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Indeed. Before he passed away, we managed to get WN3LIF excited about D-Rats. We used it for the last Red Cross national drill (this recent one was only WinLink). WinLiink has quite the political lobby at ARC and ARRL. For the record, I am in the camp that thinks it should be strictly regulated on HF bands, but see zero issue with it on UHF/VHF. However, you need RMS nodes and we have zero. In those areas that have VHF (mainly) RMS, then fine, but these are very, very limited areas. And hybrid WinLink (no internet required) is pretty much the equivalent of fighting a California wild fire with a garden hose. I know why they came up with hybrid, but in actual use it needs the same RMS station and HF frequency as everyone else is trying to use at the same time, so it only compounds the HF WinLink throughput bottleneck. Combine that with the complete lack of prioritizing traffic on WinLink and you have an emcomm mess.?
What I was hoping to attract with my post was the attention of somebody who knows how this xml and style sheet stuff works who can create a nice form repository for D-Rats like somebody did for WinLink.?
We cut/paste stuff into "Knowledge Center" up here for Lehigh County. That's a no-frills text thing (for those not familiar this is a web-based emergency message system bridging a lot of agencies in PA and other states). Our EOC doesn't really care about pretty fonts or logos but I think Red Cross was impressed by their fancy forms. I don't think they are hard to make if you know how. Folks like web page developers know this stuff. Anybody??
BTW....I added your Skywarn form to my D-Rats install. Nice.?
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You have touched on a point I have been trying to make for years. A D-RATS station with an internet connection provides the same functionality as a Winlink RMS station. The form builder utility in D-RATS is a powerful tool for creating custom forms, including logos. However if you want to print a received form, an xsl style sheet must be created to to format it correctly. I created a Skywarn reporting form, but do not have the required knowledge to create a style sheet. The only thing missing from D-RATS is an address book. If that were added, D-RATS could be a rival for Winlink.
D-RATS on RF D-RATS on D-STAR radios only requires a serial or USB connection between the radio and computer. D-RATS data can pass through repeaters and gateways. D-RATS on analog radios can be implemented with KISS capable hardware TNCs?or a soundcard modem with an AGWPE interface. UH7ZO's Soundmodem for Windows now has a PSK300 mode, making it an option for HF radio.
Patrick (N3TSZ)
On Saturday, October 17, 2020, 06:32:25 AM EDT, Michael Mandell <mikemandell@...> wrote:
Anybody know how to design nice looking forms like WinLink Express has? Red Cross got all their special forms (some unique, some tweaked from ICS stuff) with their logo, etc. into WinLink. My suspicion is the WinLink people continue to try to push their system for emcomm and building nice forms for a major served agency helps serve their purpose. In an exercise some months ago with ARC, some of the forms were kind of ported to FLDigi for use by the PA ARES groups, who are FLDigi (not WinLink) groups. In the most recent exercise, this was not going to be allowed and it was 100 percent WinLink (and the nice forms). Here in our area, we have focused on D-Rats for emcomm (we have no WinLink VHF/UHF RMS around here, as is the case in most places) but the forms section of D-Rats is rudimentary at best. Served agencies seem to want info but on their own form, too. I know this is xml stuff, but if anybody has delved into this and possibly how to convert forms from those already fabricated in WinLink Express or FLDigi, that would be a strong point for the D-Rats group here.?
Unless I am missing something, using D-Rats with internet email relay is at least as powerful as WinLink without the necessity of an RMS. The only drawback to D-Rats is lack of the nice customized forms WinLink Express has. Thanks.
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Anybody know how to design nice looking forms like WinLink Express has? Red Cross got all their special forms (some unique, some tweaked from ICS stuff) with their logo, etc. into WinLink. My suspicion is the WinLink people continue to try to push their system for emcomm and building nice forms for a major served agency helps serve their purpose. In an exercise some months ago with ARC, some of the forms were kind of ported to FLDigi for use by the PA ARES groups, who are FLDigi (not WinLink) groups. In the most recent exercise, this was not going to be allowed and it was 100 percent WinLink (and the nice forms). Here in our area, we have focused on D-Rats for emcomm (we have no WinLink VHF/UHF RMS around here, as is the case in most places) but the forms section of D-Rats is rudimentary at best. Served agencies seem to want info but on their own form, too. I know this is xml stuff, but if anybody has delved into this and possibly how to convert forms from those already fabricated in WinLink Express or FLDigi, that would be a strong point for the D-Rats group here.?
Unless I am missing something, using D-Rats with internet email relay is at least as powerful as WinLink without the necessity of an RMS. The only drawback to D-Rats is lack of the nice customized forms WinLink Express has. Thanks.
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On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 03:29 PM, Glen Strecker wrote:
when you set up the WX QST it is looking for City,State,Country. ?Note no spaces after the commas. ?Mine specifies ¡°Slidell,la,us¡± for the location. ? Because I am in the US it shows Celsius and Fahrenheit, but probably won¡¯t for you. ?How did you designate the location?
Hi Glen ...?The information does NOT come from the Internet, not from OpenWeatherMap, it comes from my personal weather station .... hi hi
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Luis,
when you set up the WX QST it is looking for City,State,Country. ?Note no spaces after the commas. ?Mine specifies ¡°Slidell,la,us¡± for the location. ? Because I am in the US it shows Celsius and Fahrenheit, but probably won¡¯t for you. ?How did you designate the location?
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Greetings, can someone tell me if my WX information is correctly entered in the Current Weather section? ... I know that the information is not the same as that sent by the other stations, but it is what I have been able to enter so far from my weather station ... sorry for the inconvenience caused  
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Re: D-Rats and Connection to Icom IC-705
Don't have a 705 but Icom menus have been pretty similar for some time. If like a 5100, go into Bluetooth data set and change to dv data. Turn off all the auto GPS stuff. They generally work with GPS but you will transmit APRS-like crap every time you transmit if on. Bluetooth usually creates 2 serial comm ports in windows. First in the list is CI V control (rig). Second is serial data. Use the second comm port for radio setup as a serial radio port. Please report back if it works.?
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Re: D-Rats and Connection to Icom IC-705
"To send and receive data, a USB cable (user
supplied), and a data communication software
(user supplied) are required"? ... from Advance Manual ...?and if Icom gives me an IC 705 I will try all its possibilities ... hi hi
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D-Rats and Connection to Icom IC-705
Has anyone successfully connected the Icom-705 to D-Rats through Bluetooth or WiFi? If so, please provide instructions, thank you...
Paul KB0DWT
Colorado Springs, CO
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Re: Need a database please
That wouldn't be a bad idea...? We could build a
query and update forms that could be sent to the NCS, who would
keep the master database.?
Thanks
David, AC7DS
On 10/4/20 6:40 PM, erwestgard wrote:
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Yes that is
what we use at the Medtronic Twin Cities Marathon to track
runners in any of a dozen aid stations, medical tents and
busses in real time.? We are handed a spreadsheet of starter
information by our events for loading.? ?In a disaster, we
would need to support ad-hoc person entry.? We years ago
developed trivnetdb, a Linux database replacement for
ARES-DATA on PostgreSQL.? Trivnetdb allows TCP/IP users and
AX.25 Packet users to access mail, live status messages and
databases that can be built on the fly for shelter
operations, etc. ?A new version/rewrite under test has a web
front end and messaging/query platform and are working on a
dashboard for aid station /hospital capacity etc.? It works
for us over mesh and DD mode.? We like an API for access to
chip timing systems and could be used to upload information
to other systems.?
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A basic
database would be a nice back end for D-RATS.? If you could
use the keypad on the radio or a cheap tablet individual
hams could do queries or updates.? One update is to query a
runner bib number and indicate ¡°got on a SAG bus¡± or
¡°entered an aid station¡± via a button.? Any system has to
scale massively and support real time updates.? ???
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We have been thinking about developing a
way to take data transmitted from D-RATS forms into a
database.? Since D-RATS transmits only the data from forms, an
app could populate a database or a spreadsheet for further
analysis or filtering.? The key is to make it versatile enough
to handle data from a variety of forms and not develop it
based on one particular application.
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Several years ago, a similar application
was developed using packet to support medical information from
the Peachtree Road Race in Atlanta with 50,000+ runners.? When
someone visited (or brought) to one of several medical tents,
their info was entered and included their location and if they
were transported to a hospital.? When someone inquired on a
runner¡¯s status, the query would provide their location and
status.
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Developing something similar with D-RATS as
the transport would be great.? The application could allow you
to define the fields because you would already know the order
and format from a form.? Once the data was captured, typical
database functions could be used for query or reporting.? How
do you capture the data from the radio as data entry?
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D-RATS would offer a great front end for
data entry with the custom form capability.? We are looking
for ideas or other programs that may be adaptable for this
purpose.? Thoughts and input is appreciated.
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John WB4QDX
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The forms included in D-RATS can be
edited to suit your needs. New forms can also created
for specific situations. If you wish to print the
received message on paper, an associated XSL style
sheet must must be created to format the data for
printing.
If anyone is digging
into D-rats we need a database.? We are very well
supplied with messaging and file transfer apps.?
Radiograms scream "it is still 1917" to me.?
Medical command center, missing persons and family
reunification use cases need a database.?
Leadership will ask about trends, shelter
capacity, supply levels.? And where is a given
person.? Dashboards are all the rage.? ?Simple
fields are key.? Adding new entries on the fly is
key.? Scale is key.? "Better data better
decisions" etc.??
Phone number and or
email
Location/status (no
PII/HIPAA details please)?
The American Red Cross
is rolling out a large database project - cloud
based- called RC Care.? After the big Microsoft
Office cloud outage yesterday I realized I missed
a memo on why we must all use the cloud in natural
disasters.? ?We built a fleet of eight mesh tower
trailers and are adding a local virtualized
compute capability.? The idea is you roll to a
disaster, start collecting data, operate locally
and then upload via an API if the cloud comes back
up lol.??
Medtronic Twin Cities
Marathon?
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Patrick Connor
Luis ea1axy
Glen Strecker