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K3PDR Ratflector failure

 

I upgraded the K3PDR Ratflector to 0.3.9b3. When I tried to start D-RATS, I received this message:
pdra@pdra-desktop:~$ d-rats.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
? File "/usr/local/bin/d-rats.py", line 31, in <module>
? ? from d_rats import utils, spell?
? File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/d_rats/utils.py", line 22, in <module>
? ? import six.moves.urllib.request, six.moves.urllib.parse, six.moves.urllib.error
ImportError: No module named six.moves.urllib.request

Until this issue is resolved, the K3PDR Ratflector will be unavailable.
Any advise will be greatly appreciated.


Re: WX API question

Charles Macdonald
 


Re: Use of Filter Tabs

 

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Thanks Patrick,

I suspected as much but was not excited about looking in the source to verify. If Maurizio gets around to it he could perhaps set up some conditionals so that if [QST] exists, filtering it takes priority. Leave the order of all else alone.

73

Jack - KD4IZ?

On Jun 5, 2020, at 16:20, Patrick Connor via groups.io <n3tsz@...> wrote:

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It also looks like the filter parses the text from left to right.
[TIMESTAMP] [PORTNAME] CALLSIGN: [QST] ...
So when you have a filter for PORTNAME, it is acted on before [QST]


Patrick (N3TSZ)


On Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 09:17:34 PM EDT, Patrick Connor via groups.io <n3tsz@...> wrote:


In addition to creating a [QST] filter, go to Preferences>Appearance and enter \[QST] on the ignore line. This will do two things. First, [QST]s will change to the Ignore color. Secondly, the Chat sound will be suppressed. While you are on that page, enter your callsign on the Notice line, followed by (?i). Any text containing your callsign (upper case or lower case) will change to the Notice color. Another way to clean up your screen is to disable "Show status updates in chat" on the Chat page.

Many thanks to the development team.
Patrick (N3TSZ)


On Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 07:42:30 PM EDT, Al Massaro <almassaro1@...> wrote:


Jack, well done I guess that pretty much sums it up. Just getting my transmitted QSTs off of my active chat page would be a boon.
Thanks for the update! Checking with my local Coastie buddy to let him know about the Taney radio group.
--
AL M
KF5SMH


Re: Use of Filter Tabs

 

It also looks like the filter parses the text from left to right.
[TIMESTAMP] [PORTNAME] CALLSIGN: [QST] ...
So when you have a filter for PORTNAME, it is acted on before [QST]


Patrick (N3TSZ)


On Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 09:17:34 PM EDT, Patrick Connor via groups.io <n3tsz@...> wrote:


In addition to creating a [QST] filter, go to Preferences>Appearance and enter \[QST] on the ignore line. This will do two things. First, [QST]s will change to the Ignore color. Secondly, the Chat sound will be suppressed. While you are on that page, enter your callsign on the Notice line, followed by (?i). Any text containing your callsign (upper case or lower case) will change to the Notice color. Another way to clean up your screen is to disable "Show status updates in chat" on the Chat page.

Many thanks to the development team.
Patrick (N3TSZ)


On Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 07:42:30 PM EDT, Al Massaro <almassaro1@...> wrote:


Jack, well done I guess that pretty much sums it up. Just getting my transmitted QSTs off of my active chat page would be a boon.
Thanks for the update! Checking with my local Coastie buddy to let him know about the Taney radio group.
--
AL M
KF5SMH


Re: Use of Filter Tabs

 

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HI David,

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Thanks, anyone willing to take on the task of going through emails and files is more than welcome to use what I wrote about my filter explorations in the creation of (or updating) a FAQ about D-Rats.

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In his huge collection of files supporting D-Rats, Patrick has a very nice “Operating With D-RATS” guide for 0.3.3 that is somewhat dated. ?Now that Maurizio and Marius are making new contributions and debugging D-Rats now at the 0.3.9. version level, updating is going to be important. ?I don’t think there has been a lot of “new” added so much as there has been consolidation of some “Feeping Creatures” that occurred in early development phases. Useful features that Dan had been dropped (probably for legitimate development reasons) are been fixed and added back. We need to know what all the current version does and focus on that. Unfortunately email reflectors tend to accumulate “loose ends” and a search of email “threads” can be a dive through a whole lot of rabbit burrows that lead nowhere. Not what new users want or need to do.

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Patrick O’Connor has already assembled 98% of everything needed, so a D-RATS group Wiki would only really need to be a guide to the files area plus a FAQ. Editing the group Wiki is a moderator function, so the curator would have the ability to limit additions to “tried and true” information… A back-of-the-napkin “project management analysis” suggests that one could use the existing setup and how to document(s), consolidate and update those that need it, and make the guide available. New information can be added to documents on the fly directly or in Wiki form, but that job is much harder with PDFs. If Patrick is willing authorize it and someone can step up, it would be great if a person with the time to act as curator for the D-RATS group wiki area could organize and initiate the process..

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I have started doing something like this with the HFDStar group which is relatively new. As I have time, I plan to add additional info using some the old documents: more on operating techniques, using AMBE dongle plus a GMSK modem to bring DV to rigs with the 9600 baud modem port, set up and configuration of Flex 6000 waveforms for DV, etc. Several folks, most notably Kent Hufford, KQ4KK, and Stewart Lloyd, WI3J have written some good material, plus there are some good YouTube videos that can be referenced. Makes curation much easier.

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Wiki’s are always works in progress and take active curation. I will be happy to submit material, but I don’t have time to take on the curation (self-employed and “not-yet-retired”).

?

Best,

?

Jack Spitznagel – KD4IZ

Trustee for NR3DT

The Museum Ship USCGC Taney WHEC-37 Amateur Radio Group

?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Ranch
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2020 15:36
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [d-rats] Use of Filter Tabs

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Thank! you.. much better!? I really think this is worthy of a FAQ entry!

--David
KI6ZHD

On 06/02/2020 04:41 PM, Al Massaro wrote:

Jack, well done I guess that pretty much sums it up. Just getting my transmitted QSTs off of my active chat page would be a boon.
Thanks for the update! Checking with my local Coastie buddy to let him know about the Taney radio group.
--
AL M
KF5SMH

?


Re: Use of Filter Tabs

 

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Thank! you.. much better!? I really think this is worthy of a FAQ entry!

--David
KI6ZHD


On 06/02/2020 04:41 PM, Al Massaro wrote:

Jack, well done I guess that pretty much sums it up. Just getting my transmitted QSTs off of my active chat page would be a boon.
Thanks for the update! Checking with my local Coastie buddy to let him know about the Taney radio group.
--
AL M
KF5SMH


Re: Use of Filter Tabs

 

Thanks Pat! I have tried some of those with disappointing results. I was thinking about you yesterday and was going to make a post to the fact that you taught me about the [QST] tab! Good to hear from you once again.
--
AL M
KF5SMH


Re: Use of Filter Tabs

 

In addition to creating a [QST] filter, go to Preferences>Appearance and enter \[QST] on the ignore line. This will do two things. First, [QST]s will change to the Ignore color. Secondly, the Chat sound will be suppressed. While you are on that page, enter your callsign on the Notice line, followed by (?i). Any text containing your callsign (upper case or lower case) will change to the Notice color. Another way to clean up your screen is to disable "Show status updates in chat" on the Chat page.

Many thanks to the development team.
Patrick (N3TSZ)


On Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 07:42:30 PM EDT, Al Massaro <almassaro1@...> wrote:


Jack, well done I guess that pretty much sums it up. Just getting my transmitted QSTs off of my active chat page would be a boon.
Thanks for the update! Checking with my local Coastie buddy to let him know about the Taney radio group.
--
AL M
KF5SMH


Re: Use of Filter Tabs

 

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Thanks Al,

?

Will be happy to hear his feedback. Also to know whether he checks into the USCG Amateur Radio Net on Saturdays at noon. 14.300MHz with net control W5CGC.

?

Jack Spitznagel – KD4IZ

Trustee for NR3DT

The Museum Ship USCGC Taney WHEC-37 Amateur Radio Group

?

?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Al Massaro
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 19:42
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [d-rats] Use of Filter Tabs

?

Jack, well done I guess that pretty much sums it up. Just getting my transmitted QSTs off of my active chat page would be a boon.
Thanks for the update! Checking with my local Coastie buddy to let him know about the Taney radio group.
--
AL M
KF5SMH


Re: Use of Filter Tabs

 

Jack, well done I guess that pretty much sums it up. Just getting my transmitted QSTs off of my active chat page would be a boon.
Thanks for the update! Checking with my local Coastie buddy to let him know about the Taney radio group.
--
AL M
KF5SMH


Re: Use of Filter Tabs

 

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Al,

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I tried using the [QST] tab at the beginning and at the end of my line up. As long as the other “rats” were tabbed, the QST tab stopped harvesting the particular QST’s sent to those “rats”. If a “rat” was not tabbed, then a QST sent to it would be routed to the [QST] tab…

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I use the ratflectors you see for various nets and general chat. There are many I don’t use because they are either mostly silent, or they are not of interest to me. Adding or subtracting servers to the linked list is rather clumsy. I would prefer that there be a dynamic checklist, but with reflectors, you don’t know always which ones will be dependably available.

?

Jack – KD4IZ

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Al Massaro
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 18:22
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [d-rats] Use of Filter Tabs

?

Jack, Most excellent investigative report!
I am curious though, if all of the 'RAT' tabs were created first, then lastly the '[QST]' tab created, would it hen grab all of the preceding tab QSTs?
I do not use many rats so I have no real way of knowing, just struck me as plausible.
--
AL M
KF5SMH


Re: Use of Filter Tabs

 

Jack, Most excellent investigative report!
I am curious though, if all of the 'RAT' tabs were created first, then lastly the '[QST]' tab created, would it hen grab all of the preceding tab QSTs?
I do not use many rats so I have no real way of knowing, just struck me as plausible.
--
AL M
KF5SMH


Use of Filter Tabs

 

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All,

?

Being the inquisitive person I am, I had to do non-destructive discovery testing… without disruption of primary traffic functions. I completed my first round last night with the help of Paul, K9PTF and forbearance of the Alabama Ratflector folks.

?

Of course I was able to verify Al’s KF5SMH statement about creating a [QST] filter tab – it grabs all of them if the filter is created. I did that first. The Main tab will no longer have any QST’s present.

?

Next I wanted to see if I created an [Alabama] filter in addition, what would happen to the QSTs originated from that Ratflector. They shown in the [Alabama] filter but no longer in the [QST] filter tab.

?

The same is true for any additional ratflector specific filter tabs I create. Those tabs now receive QST’s to that group and those QSTs no long shown in the [QST] filter tab.

?

Channels and Private Chats appear to remain immune to QSTs.

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At this point I wondered if the order of the tabs might change the behavior. They do not. The presence of a ratflector specific filter group “hijacks” any QST originating from that group.

?

Hopefully we can convince Maurizio to look at this behavior so the presence of a [QST] filter tab will take precedence over any other tabs and “harvest” all QSTs. This will enable each ratflector specific filter tab to provide an interruption free chat, yet leave a central place to look at QST’s that are sent.

?

An example of how I configured the Chat screen is shown below. For those who are not using the feature yet, note that a Filter Tab containing RED letters contain unread traffic:

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Have fun on D-Rats –

?

Jack Spitznagel – KD4IZ

Trustee for NR3DT

The Museum Ship USCGC Taney WHEC-37 Amateur Radio Group

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Re: WX API question

 


--?
AL M
KF5SMH


Re: WX API question

 

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Hi Don

Suggest to start from here:

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Donald Hinsman
Sent: martedì 2 giugno 2020 22:03
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [d-rats] WX API question

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How do I set the Maps for OpenCycle, Outdoors and Landscape?? I have an API but don't know the z x or y?? And the new D-RATS doesn't require a separate MapLoader program?

?

Don HInsman

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On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 12:20 PM Al Massaro <almassaro1@...> wrote:

Some of the EMCOMM group have upgraded and are quite pleased with the new version.
AL?


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73 de N4VIP, Don - SFARES Inc. Treasurer and Secretary


Re: WX API question

 

How do I set the Maps for OpenCycle, Outdoors and Landscape?? I have an API but don't know the z x or y?? And the new D-RATS doesn't require a separate MapLoader program?

Don HInsman

On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 12:20 PM Al Massaro <almassaro1@...> wrote:
Some of the EMCOMM group have upgraded and are quite pleased with the new version.
AL?



--
73 de N4VIP, Don - SFARES Inc. Treasurer and Secretary


Re: Great job!!

 

?If each and every one of us do the same, abuse I don't know if it will be, but ...?


Re: Great job!!

 

Jack, it has been my experience that as long as incoming messages are preceded with [QST]they will be directed to the QST Tab. That is for receiving stations, the QST transmitter still gets the message on whatever channel they have open at the time of Transmission.
AL M
KF5SMH


Re: Great job!!

 

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One might infer from this example that it is possible to “route” any server you are connected to to a filtered tab. Also one can created a filtered subgroup on a server for net check-ins on a particular server.?

Al, can you verify that if [QST] is routed to a filter tab, and if particular servers are routed to other tabs, that the [QST] activity will not show in the “net” filtered tab for a net activity?

Jack - KD4IZ?

On Jun 1, 2020, at 17:39, Al Massaro <almassaro1@...> wrote:

?Just a bit of visual help, for the inexperienced this will place 'ALL' incoming QSTs on the resulting tab:
<add filter.jpg>
<name filter.jpg>
<new tab.jpg>

AL M
KF5SMH


Re: Great job!!

 

Just a bit of visual help, for the inexperienced this will place 'ALL' incoming QSTs on the resulting tab:

AL M
KF5SMH