Re: Running D-Rats on Raspberry PI and have it autostart on boot
That is a great tip. I will add that to my notes also.
That tells me I could add that in startup of the pi as cron job then instead of launching under the desktop.
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If your running your RPi headless you don't need to launch the X
desktop.
I run a ratflector without having to launch the desktop. The ratflector
application will run from the console.
the syntax is d-rats_reflector -C -d
By not launching the desktop you save both memory and CPU resources.
73, Ed KA8JMW
--- In d-rats_group@..., "k4mkh" wrote:
So you want to run D-Rats on the Raspberry Pi and it have
automatically launch on power up. The GUI needs to launch every time
the Pi starts.
The build we are currently running is Raspbian "wheezy".
This URL will tell you how to install D-Rats on the Pi.
The executable files are stored under /usr/bin and are called:
d-rats > D-Rats communication program
d-rats_mapdownloader > download maps
d-rats_repeater > D-Rats repeater
Once the install is completed...
start LXTERMINAL from raspberry PI desktop
cd /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE
sudo leafpad autostart
You need to add the following statement at the end of the file and
save the file.
@d-rats_repeater
All you need to do is to logoff and next time time GUI launches the D-Rats repeater will launch. You will have enable the repeater the 1st
time and set your callsign.
Mike K4MKH
mike.k4mkh 'at' gmail.com
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Re: Dstar to packet and Vice Versa
Dan, ? I have been following your progress and tenacity with D-RATS.? I am trying to bring New Mexico into the 21st Century and D-RATS is a major tool for EMCOMM.? If you can solve the D-RATS to packet, that would be great.? I believe that PACLINK as a server from D-RATS into RMS/CMS VHF is possible but had some TNC difficulties from my TS-2000.? Keep up the great work.
? 73 de N4VIP, Don Hinsman (Santa Fe County ARES EC)
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Dan Ozment <dan@...> wrote:
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I WILL get my hands on a TNC, then!?? We never made it work with a TNC because of some kind of error, but I didn't have my hands on that end of the connection.?? The friend who was working with me has an extra Kantronics.? I will take him up on his offer to let me borrow it and see how far we can go.?? I have had good success with D-RATS client-to-client using AGWPE.?? AGWPE just seems to fail in the repeater app. ?Maybe we can set up a TNC on the ratflector (which is probably a good idea) and let people use AGWPE/soundcard OR a TNC from the other side. ?
? Thanks for the added hope!? Will keep you posted.
? ? ?
I don't have a TNC to try, but I would think you would have better luck with a TNC, rather than running AGWPE. The AGWPE connection in D-RATS was just an experiment and no real support was given to it. If I ever get my hands on some TNCs, I'll give it a good going over. I think that would a great way to get non D-STAR users interested in D-RATS. Also consider the TS-2000 and D-7XX radios have built-in TNCs. The Alinco DR-135 has a TNC option board that fits inside the radio. I also wonder if using the TNC in transparent mode would give better results. If I had one, I'd try it. Good luck trying to bring D-RATS to the masses. I've been trying for five years and have only made a small dent so far.
From: Dan Ozment <dan@...>
To: d-rats_group@...
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 6:06 PM
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Patrick, have you run a TNC on the repeater app??? I don't have one, so I was using AGWPE.?? A cohort tried setting up a TNC and had trouble.? We stopped since I had trouble with AGWPE.?? Would be interesting to hear that you have made it work.
From: d-rats_group@... [mailto:d-rats_group@...] On Behalf Of n3tsz
Yes. Run the D-RATS repeater application and make a connection for the D-STAR radio and the TNC. It will work like a crossband repeater, letting data pass in both directions.
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-- 73 de N4VIP (SFARES EC, SANTA FE AND SAN MIGUEL COUNTIES DEC), Don
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Re: Dstar to packet and Vice Versa
I WILL get my hands on a TNC, then!?? We never made it work with a TNC because of some kind of error, but I didn't have my hands on that end of the connection.?? The friend who was working with me has an extra Kantronics.? I will take him up on his offer to let me borrow it and see how far we can go.?? I have had good success with D-RATS client-to-client using AGWPE.?? AGWPE just seems to fail in the repeater app. ?Maybe we can set up a TNC on the ratflector (which is probably a good idea) and let people use AGWPE/soundcard OR a TNC from the other side. ? ? Thanks for the added hope!? Will keep you posted. ?
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From: d-rats_group@... [mailto:d-rats_group@...] On Behalf Of Patrick Connor
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 6:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [d-rats_group] Re: Dstar to packet and Vice Versa? ? I don't have a TNC to try, but I would think you would have better luck with a TNC, rather than running AGWPE. The AGWPE connection in D-RATS was just an experiment and no real support was given to it. If I ever get my hands on some TNCs, I'll give it a good going over. I think that would a great way to get non D-STAR users interested in D-RATS. Also consider the TS-2000 and D-7XX radios have built-in TNCs. The Alinco DR-135 has a TNC option board that fits inside the radio. I also wonder if using the TNC in transparent mode would give better results. If I had one, I'd try it. Good luck trying to bring D-RATS to the masses. I've been trying for five years and have only made a small dent so far.
From: Dan Ozment <dan@...>
To: d-rats_group@...
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 6:06 PM
Subject: RE: [d-rats_group] Re: Dstar to packet and Vice Versa ? ? Patrick, have you run a TNC on the repeater app??? I don't have one, so I was using AGWPE.?? A cohort tried setting up a TNC and had trouble.? We stopped since I had trouble with AGWPE.?? Would be interesting to hear that you have made it work. From: d-rats_group@... [mailto:d-rats_group@...] On Behalf Of n3tsz
Yes. Run the D-RATS repeater application and make a connection for the D-STAR radio and the TNC. It will work like a crossband repeater, letting data pass in both directions.
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If it is the RTS-05 cable, it works for both programming and data.
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Will the RT Systems programming cable work for D-RATS too or will I need another cable?
Rusty
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Re: Dstar to packet and Vice Versa
Dan, I don't have a TNC to try, but I would think you would have better luck with a TNC, rather than running AGWPE. The AGWPE connection in D-RATS was just an experiment and no real support was given to it. If I ever get my hands on some TNCs, I'll give it a good going over. I think that would a great way to get non D-STAR users interested in D-RATS. Also consider the TS-2000 and D-7XX radios have built-in TNCs. The Alinco DR-135 has a TNC option board that fits inside the radio. I also wonder if using the TNC in transparent mode would give better results. If I had one, I'd try it. Good luck trying to bring D-RATS to the masses.
I've been trying for five years and have only made a small dent so far.
From: Dan Ozment
To: d-rats_group@...
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 6:06 PM
Subject: RE: [d-rats_group] Re: Dstar to packet and Vice Versa
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Patrick, have you run a TNC on the repeater app??? I don't have one, so I was using AGWPE.?? A cohort tried setting up a TNC and had trouble.? We stopped since I had trouble with AGWPE.?? Would be interesting to hear that you have made it work. ? Dan??????? ? From: d-rats_group@... [mailto:d-rats_group@...] On Behalf Of n3tsz
Yes. Run the D-RATS repeater application and make a connection for the D-STAR radio and the TNC. It will work like a crossband repeater, letting data pass in both directions.
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I'm using the ID-51.? Rusty Bryant 4S?
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Which radio are you using? If your cable has a 2.5mm plug on the radio end, then probably yes. The 3.5mm plug that goes into the speaker won't work. The RT Systems "cloning" cable for the 92AD won't work.
--- In d-rats_group@..., "rustyb78" wrote:
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> Will the RT Systems programming cable work for D-RATS too or will I need another cable?
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> Rusty
> WB4BSD
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Re: Dstar to packet and Vice Versa
Patrick, have you run a TNC on the repeater app??? I don't have one, so I was using AGWPE.?? A cohort tried setting up a TNC and had trouble.? We stopped since I had trouble with AGWPE.?? Would be interesting to hear that you have made it work. ? Dan??????? ? From: d-rats_group@... [mailto:d-rats_group@...] On Behalf Of n3tsz
Yes. Run the D-RATS repeater application and make a connection for the D-STAR radio and the TNC. It will work like a crossband repeater, letting data pass in both directions.
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Which radio are you using? If your cable has a 2.5mm plug on the radio end, then probably yes. The 3.5mm plug that goes into the speaker won't work. The RT Systems "cloning" cable for the 92AD won't work.
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Will the RT Systems programming cable work for D-RATS too or will I need another cable?
Rusty
WB4BSD
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Re: Dstar to packet and Vice Versa
Yes. Run the D-RATS repeater application and make a connection for the D-STAR radio and the TNC. It will work like a crossband repeater, letting data pass in both directions.
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Is it possible to run packet radio and dstar ( serial ports configured and enabled ) , in order to route messages to each other ?????
Leon / 9Z4BM
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Will the RT Systems programming cable work for D-RATS too or will I need another cable?
Rusty
WB4BSD
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Re: Dstar to packet and Vice Versa
I think it would be very useful.?? Seems like you are talking about a gateway between packet tools and D-RATS.? Interesting idea that I haven't seen anyone attempt. ? But, I believe the first obstacle is the ability to connect a TNC (or AGWPE) to D-RATS in such a way as to pass the traffic in an out.?? I think you would need to connect the packet station to the D-RATS repeater app (aka Ratflector) to make that work.? The repeater app functions like a switch or router, connecting together multiple technologies like D-STAR, packet, telnet, etc.???? It's kind of the connection point.?? Once everybody is connected to the repeater app everyone can see everything.????? ? Here's an example.?? I set up a ratflector using the repeater app.?? I then connected my ratflector to: ??????????????? 1) my D-RATS client app and ??????????????? 2) to another more distant D-RATS ratflector.? ? Anything that happened on either of those to instances of D-RATS was seen by anyone connected to either of them. ?? ? I then set the repeater app on my side up to allow me to connect a D-STAR radio via serial cable.?? Remote stations could then connect their D-RATS instances to mine via D-STAR over RF simplex.?? That added a third instance of D-RATS to the party.?? Everyone on the three D-RATS clients could see everything that was happening. ? Next, I set up an AGWPE (poor man's TNC?) connection on my repeater app to try to connect remote D-RATS users via packet.? ?However, when I restart the repeater app after adding the AGWPE connection the app fails to start and gives an error in the log.?? If I remove the AGWPE connection the repeater app will start back up without an error. ? To sum it up, I think you need the repeater app to accomplish what you are trying to do.? You may or may not need more software, but I think the repeater app is key.? But, while the repeater app appears to allow TNC and AGWPE connections I think there is a bug in the current version that keeps that from working. ? I think there is a lot of utility there if we could get that bug fixed. ? Dan W4DTO
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From: d-rats_group@... [mailto:d-rats_group@...] On Behalf Of Leon Singh
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 12:07 AM
To: d-rats_group@...
Subject: RE: [d-rats_group] Dstar to packet and Vice Versa? ? Hmmmmm ... Tnxs for the info ...... I was looking at the possibility of connecting a tnc / packet radio and also a dstar radio on the same PC , running Drats , in order to have messages that come in via both setups , to be able to route that message to one another .. Email type message or keyboard chat from dstar , can be routed via drats accross to the packet radio , and vice versa . I do think that would be something ( well at least in my island ) , that guys might go for ..... I havent tried it as yet , but will go ahead and see what happens
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Leon Singh? - 9Z4BM
I am able to do all things through Christ who strengthens me .
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Hello to all, as almost only d-rats user in Spain.
I leave you a connection of my works it has more than enough d-star and the use of the d-rats.
Excuse the documents are in spanish but ... all be HAM?s
73 from EA1AXY
Excuse my poor english
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Hi to all ...
I take a time attempting it but it doesn't end up working completely well.
In my case i use Virtual Serial Ports Emulator
Any have a solution with share com port d-rats & icom software at same time ?
greeting from EA1AXY
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Re: Dstar to packet and Vice Versa
Hmmmmm ... Tnxs for the info ...... I was looking at the possibility of connecting a tnc / packet radio and also a dstar radio on the same PC , running Drats , in order to have messages that come in via both setups , to be able to route that message to one another ..
Email type message or keyboard chat from dstar , can be routed via drats accross to the packet radio , and vice versa . I do think that would be something ( well at least in my island ) , that guys might go for .....
I havent tried it as yet , but will go ahead and see what happens -- Leon Singh? - 9Z4BM
I am able to do all things through Christ who strengthens me .
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Re: Dstar to packet and Vice Versa
Not sure if it is exactly what you are looking for, but I have used AGW Packet Engine to establish a packet connection between two D-RATS clients.? I was looking for a way to bring non-D-STAR machines and users into D-RATS.??? ?But, I was never quiet able to accomplish my overall goal.?? ? I had hoped to bring up a ratflector for "local use" at an event.??? Local machines would connect to the ratflector using either the local network, D-STAR RF, or packet.?? Once we were linked together we could chat, send messages, and share files locally.?? I had also hoped to link the local ratflector to other ratflectors over the internet or using RF, thereby extending the reach of the local machines. ? I hit a snag, however.? It turns out that while AGWPE (and, presumably TNCs) will work with the D-RATS client app, they will not work with the D-RATS repeater (ratflector) app.? ??The repeater app will not start if there is an AGWPE connection defined in it.??? So, only D-STAR radios can connect to my ratflector. ? We spoke with Dan Smith, the creator of D-RATS, about the problem, and he said he didn't think there was enough interested in running AGWP (or TNCs, I guess) on ratflectors to warrant chasing down the bug.? ??I still think it would be an extremely useful tool, but I'm stuck. ? I do believe D-RATS will allow you to forward messages to and from WL2K, but I'm not sure if it does so over a packet link. ? 73 Dan W4DTO ? ?
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Dstar to packet and Vice Versa
Is it possible to run packet radio and dstar ( serial ports configured and enabled ) , in order to route messages to each other ?????
Leon / 9Z4BM
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D-STAR at Dayton Hamvention
Here's the updated list of D-STAR activities at Dayton Hamvention?, please send any updates to info@.... All items are subject to change. Please check for the latest information.
Schedule of D-STAR Events
Thursday, May 16th
7:00PM ¨C
Marion's Piazza 1320 N Fairfield Rd, Beavercreek, OH 45432 (39:43.596N 084:03.192W) (937) 429-3393
Friday, May 17th
8:00AM ¨C (), Drury Inn Ballroom
A three hour class for beginning and more experienced D-STAR users to help you get started and get the most from your D-STAR radio. An Icom ID-31A will be given away to one lucky class participant during the class.
12:45PM ¨C , Forum Room 1 Hara Arena
Moderator: Robin Cutshaw, AA4RC
Speakers: John Davis, WB4QDX, Brian Hoyer, K7UDR, John Hays, K7VE, Robin Cutshaw, AA4RC
D-STAR continues to grow in popularity with over one thousand interconnected gateways and over twenty-five thousand registered users. The last year has seen new hardware and software offerings that continue to expand the capabilities of this already feature rich protocol. The speakers for this forum will review the things you might have missed in the last year and announce some exciting new hardware and software.
7:00PM ¨C Friday Night D-STAR
Drury Inn Ballroom, 6616 Miller Lane, Dayton, OH 45414
Exciting list of speakers . Opportunity to speak to other D-STAR enthusiasts . Icom ID-51A to be given away .
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Re: Running D-Rats on Raspberry PI and have it autostart on boot
If your running your RPi headless you don't need to launch the X desktop.?
I run a ratflector without having to launch the desktop.? The ratflector application will run from the console.
the syntax is d-rats_reflector -C -d
By not launching the desktop you save both memory and CPU resources.
73, Ed KA8JMW
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> So you want to run D-Rats on the Raspberry Pi and it have automatically launch on power up. The GUI needs to launch every time the Pi starts.
>
> The build we are currently running is Raspbian "wheezy".
>
> This URL will tell you how to install D-Rats on the Pi.
> http://n0so.net/index.php?id=72
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> The executable files are stored under /usr/bin and are called:
> d-rats > D-Rats communication program
> d-rats_mapdownloader > download maps
> d-rats_repeater > D-Rats repeater
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> Once the install is completed...
>
> start LXTERMINAL from raspberry PI desktop
>
> cd /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE
> sudo leafpad autostart
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> You need to add the following statement at the end of the file and save the file.
> @d-rats_repeater
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> All you need to do is to logoff and next time time GUI launches the D-Rats repeater will launch. You will have enable the repeater the 1st time and set your callsign.
>
> Mike K4MKH
> mike.k4mkh 'at' gmail.com
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Re: Running D-Rats on Raspberry PI and have it autostart on boot
That is how I have implemented it but it could be run as standalone without the mesh also.
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This is to use a Raspberry PI as a Ratflector on a MESH I presume.
--- In d-rats_group@..., "k4mkh" <k4mkh@> wrote:
So you want to run D-Rats on the Raspberry Pi and it have automatically launch on power up. The GUI needs to launch every time the Pi starts.
The build we are currently running is Raspbian "wheezy".
This URL will tell you how to install D-Rats on the Pi.
The executable files are stored under /usr/bin and are called:
d-rats > D-Rats communication program
d-rats_mapdownloader > download maps
d-rats_repeater > D-Rats repeater
Once the install is completed...
start LXTERMINAL from raspberry PI desktop
cd /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE
sudo leafpad autostart
You need to add the following statement at the end of the file and save the file.
@d-rats_repeater
All you need to do is to logoff and next time time GUI launches the D-Rats repeater will launch. You will have enable the repeater the 1st time and set your callsign.
Mike K4MKH
mike.k4mkh 'at' gmail.com
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Re: Running D-Rats on Raspberry PI and have it autostart on boot
This is to use a Raspberry PI as a Ratflector on a MESH I presume.
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--- In d-rats_group@..., "k4mkh" <k4mkh@...> wrote:
So you want to run D-Rats on the Raspberry Pi and it have automatically launch on power up. The GUI needs to launch every time the Pi starts.
The build we are currently running is Raspbian "wheezy".
This URL will tell you how to install D-Rats on the Pi.
The executable files are stored under /usr/bin and are called:
d-rats > D-Rats communication program
d-rats_mapdownloader > download maps
d-rats_repeater > D-Rats repeater
Once the install is completed...
start LXTERMINAL from raspberry PI desktop
cd /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE
sudo leafpad autostart
You need to add the following statement at the end of the file and save the file.
@d-rats_repeater
All you need to do is to logoff and next time time GUI launches the D-Rats repeater will launch. You will have enable the repeater the 1st time and set your callsign.
Mike K4MKH
mike.k4mkh 'at' gmail.com
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Dan Ozment
Patrick Connor