Did what you said, tried the Alabama Statewide
ARES, bingo, connected! Had no idea the default reflector was off-line.
When the previous one said "connection refused,"
that should have told me that I was getting out. Another problem
scratched off the list. Perhaps I don't have a
router problem after all, we'll see.

Learned another lesson, I expected the reflector to be up and it wasn't.

Something is working, now I was able to see N3TSZ broadcast.

Jim
At 06:35 PM 9/9/2014, you wrote:

Try connecting to the Training reflector. RAT
is offline. That is why you get that
message. Same thing happened to me several
weeks ago. So – you are getting out to the internet.

James R. Holtzman
Empirical Technology
Carmichael, CA 95608
(916) 487-9712
emptech@...

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Two reasons, as d-rats starts up, it tries to announce itself to the internet, or to the server.
I get an error message "RAT: Unable to connect (Unable to connect ((10061, "Connection refused))).
Second, I don't know if this is an automatic thing or not, but without touching anything, I saw the
message CQCQCQCQ try to go out, and it was highlighted in yellow, I read somewhere that showd
there was an error and it didn't go out.? I may be reading this all wrong.

I haven't used d-star/d-rats in a long time, but when I used to use it, I remember seeing traffic from all
over the world.

I also recently changed to a new router, bought a MikroTik, with takes a lot more setting up than your
run of the mill d-link or linksys.? I have a lot of configuration to do, that could be part of the problem too,
but you know what they say, can't see the forest through the trees, could be just me and something simple.

I'm all ears, where should I go next, for one thing, should we start a new thread or is this ok with everybody?

Jim

At 06:05 PM 9/9/2014, you wrote:

?

Hi -? how do you know you are not connecting to the internet – do you mean you are not connecting to a ratflector?? RAT is currently not working, try a different one, like the? Training one and see if you connect.

?

-AE5RX

?

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Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 7:58 PM
To: d-rats_group@...
Subject: Re: [d-rats_group] Crup D-Star Program
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?

David:

The brand name on the adaptor is Trendnet, model tu-s9, I sell computer products, it's
a brand I sell, did a driver update with windoze, it downloaded the prolific driver.? So far
seems to be working.? I haven't read the article about counterfeit chips yet, will do.

Dumb question, I went to the url where it has all the comments.? Looks like a lot of source
code for fixes.? What do I do to upgrade my version?? I clicked on the zip, downloaded
the file to a directory and expanded it, but that doesn't look like what I want, is it?? I was
expecting to see a setup, install, or d-rats.exe file there, did I miss it?

BTW, I saw the table of baud rates, yes, I have my 92AD at 38.5K, both in the program and
set with the device manager.? I remember with th! e 2820s, the driver set to 38K isn't a problem
but the program had to be set to 9600.? There seemed to be confusion as to what baud rate
the device itself had to be.

Jim

At 05:30 PM 9/9/2014, you wrote:

?

Hey Jim,

?

I have been using 0.3.3 up until today, when I downloaded and

installed daily 02172012.

Hmmm.. why such an old daily?? The newest daily is 04/17/2014 @

James R. Holtzman
Empirical Technology
Carmichael, CA? 95608
(916) 487-9712
emptech@...

James R. Holtzman
Empirical Technology
Carmichael, CA? 95608
(916) 487-9712
emptech@...

Don't touch the device manager. Leave the settings at the defaults. Set the port speed to match the radio in D-RATS preferences>radio...

So, according to the tables I've seen, the 92AD should be 38.4K, understood.? How about the baud rate of the
com port itself via the device manager?

Jim

At 05:39 PM 9/9/2014, you wrote:

?

The port speed for the 92AD should be 38400. If you leave it set to the default of 9600 you will encounter the types of issues you have been describing.
Patrick (N3TSZ)

James R. Holtzman
Empirical Technology
Carmichael, CA? 95608
(916) 487-9712
emptech@...

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David:

The brand name on the adaptor is Trendnet, model tu-s9, I sell computer products, it's
a brand I sell, did a driver update with windoze, it downloaded the prolific driver.? So far
seems to be working.? I haven't read the article about counterfeit chips yet, will do.

Dumb question, I went to the url where it has all the comments.? Looks like a lot of source
code for fixes.? What do I do to upgrade my version?? I clicked on the zip, downloaded
the file to a directory and expanded it, but that doesn't look like what I want, is it?? I was
expecting to see a setup, install, or d-rats.exe file there, did I miss it?

BTW, I saw the table of baud rates, yes, I have my 92AD at 38.5K, both in the program and
set with the device manager.? I remember with the 2820s, the driver set to 38K isn't a problem
but the program had to be set to 9600.? There seemed to be confusion as to what baud rate
the device itself had to be.

Jim

At 05:30 PM 9/9/2014, you wrote:

?


Hey Jim,

?

I have been using 0.3.3 up until today, when I downloaded and
installed daily 02172012.

Hmmm.. why such an old daily?? The newest daily is 04/17/2014 @

James R. Holtzman
Empirical Technology
Carmichael, CA? 95608
(916) 487-9712
emptech@...

The port speed for the 92AD should be 38400. If you leave it set to the default of 9600 you will encounter the types of issues you have been describing.

David:

Didn't see that one, I'll download it.

Thanks

At 05:30 PM 9/9/2014, you wrote:

?


Hey Jim,

?

I have been using 0.3.3 up until today, when I downloaded and
installed daily 02172012.

Hmmm.. why such an old daily?? The newest daily is 04/17/2014 @

The reason I went to the daily version, I've been having problems
with loosing control of my 92ad,
that is, sometimes it would xmit, and most of the time it
wouldn't. I also downloaded the latest version
of my usb-rs-232 adaptor.

What kind of serial chip is in your USB adapter?? counterfit prolific, real prolific, FTDI, Si, etc??? If you have a cheap adapter using the counterfit chip, running the newest drivers will actually hurt you.? Read this:

??

I actually have three problems, but I want to solve one at a
time. My other problem, won't connect
to the internet. I have a new MikroTik router, which has a
complicated setup, and when I get it all
figured out, I'll have to deal with its firewall and port forwarding.

D-RATS doesn't seen to require any port forwards.? It connects to the pre-defined "RAT flector" and just works.

--David

James R. Holtzman
Empirical Technology
Carmichael, CA? 95608
(916) 487-9712
emptech@...

David:

Problem solved. After uninstalling, re-installing, going to c:\users\holtzman\appdata\roaming,
now have d-rats. I could swear it was not there before, but there it is, and the config file is
a plain text file, just what I wanted.

OK people, you can close the trouble ticket on this one!

Now back to two other problems, the problem keying up the radio may be gone, I downloaded
the latest prolific drivers for my adaptor, may have solved the problem, not keying up the radio,
time will tell.

The problem connecting to the internet, until I get the router going right, I think that's going to
still be a problem.

But, can it be something as simple as a windoze firewall setting? I went into the firewall settings
and told it to add r-rats as acceptable, still a problem.

I just saw my screen try to put out a cqcqcq, all in yellow, if I recall that means it didn't go out, right?

Jim

At 04:45 PM 9/9/2014, you wrote:

Hello Jim,

That's the behavior I have here on Win7 Enterprise SP1 though I'm bound to a corporate Active Directory tree. I assume you rant the installer for 0.3.3? If it helps, I have the following in that top level directory:
--
<DIR> Form_Templates
<DIR> logs
<DIR> maps
<DIR> messages
<DIR> static_locations
debug.log
d-rats.config
repeater.config
repeater.log
--

--David

James R. Holtzman
Empirical Technology
Carmichael, CA 95608
(916) 487-9712
emptech@...

开云体育

Hey Jim,

?

I have been using 0.3.3 up until today, when I downloaded and
installed daily 02172012.

Hmmm.. why such an old daily?? The newest daily is 04/17/2014 @

The reason I went to the daily version, I've been having problems
with loosing control of my 92ad,
that is, sometimes it would xmit, and most of the time it
wouldn't. I also downloaded the latest version
of my usb-rs-232 adaptor.

What kind of serial chip is in your USB adapter?? counterfit prolific, real prolific, FTDI, Si, etc??? If you have a cheap adapter using the counterfit chip, running the newest drivers will actually hurt you.? Read this:

??

I actually have three problems, but I want to solve one at a
time. My other problem, won't connect
to the internet. I have a new MikroTik router, which has a
complicated setup, and when I get it all
figured out, I'll have to deal with its firewall and port forwarding.

D-RATS doesn't seen to require any port forwards.? It connects to the pre-defined "RAT flector" and just works.

--David

David:

I uninstalled the program using control panel. I then went in and manually removed
the d-rats directory tree.

I reinstalled the older version, 0.3.3 or whatever it is. Brought the program up, and it
retained all of my old settings, so that sort of proves that the settings are stored outside
of the d-rats directory. I know, others have said it's hidden and I'll continue looking for
it.

My directory still looks nothing like what you show below, strange.

I just found this yahoo group yesterday after looking all over the internet for a d-rats forum.
You have been most helpful.

Back to the drawing board - Jim

At 04:45 PM 9/9/2014, you wrote:

Hello Jim,

That's the behavior I have here on Win7 Enterprise SP1 though I'm bound to a corporate Active Directory tree. I assume you rant the installer for 0.3.3? If it helps, I have the following in that top level directory:
--
<DIR> Form_Templates
<DIR> logs
<DIR> maps
<DIR> messages
<DIR> static_locations
debug.log
d-rats.config
repeater.config
repeater.log
--

--David

James R. Holtzman
Empirical Technology
Carmichael, CA 95608
(916) 487-9712
emptech@...

David:

I have been using 0.3.3 up until today, when I downloaded and installed daily 02172012.
I noticed as it installed, deleted a bunch of previous files and I assume replaced them with
new ones. My directory tree looks nothing like what you are showing. I have nothing important
to save, I'm thinking about just deleting the entire directory tree and re-installing.

The reason I went to the daily version, I've been having problems with loosing control of my 92ad,
that is, sometimes it would xmit, and most of the time it wouldn't. I also downloaded the latest version
of my usb-rs-232 adaptor.

I actually have three problems, but I want to solve one at a time. My other problem, won't connect
to the internet. I have a new MikroTik router, which has a complicated setup, and when I get it all
figured out, I'll have to deal with its firewall and port forwarding.

Jim

At 04:45 PM 9/9/2014, you wrote:

Hello Jim,

That's the behavior I have here on Win7 Enterprise SP1 though I'm bound to a corporate Active Directory tree. I assume you rant the installer for 0.3.3? If it helps, I have the following in that top level directory:
--
<DIR> Form_Templates
<DIR> logs
<DIR> maps
<DIR> messages
<DIR> static_locations
debug.log
d-rats.config
repeater.config
repeater.log
--

--David

James R. Holtzman
Empirical Technology
Carmichael, CA 95608
(916) 487-9712
emptech@...

开云体育

Hello Jim,

That's the behavior I have here on Win7 Enterprise SP1 though I'm bound to a corporate Active Directory tree.? I assume you rant the installer for 0.3.3?? If it helps, I have the following in that top level directory:
--
Form_Templates
logs
maps
messages
static_locations
debug.log
d-rats.config
repeater.config
repeater.log
--

--David

David:

I'm running win7 prof.? I have it showing hidden and system files.
Under that path, under roaming, no d-rats directory.

A few days ago I went through the installation directory, checking the
"date modified" on files, I've never seen where a file was written to and
the date not changed, settings have been changed but no files show a
recent date.? There were many files there, and I have to admit, it was
late and I could have missed something.

I wonder where else the settings could be stored.? I suppose I could try
a brute force method, completely remove all d-rats s/w, re-install and check
to see if it has my old settings, if it did, that would tell me the settings are stored
elsewhere.

Although the manual said it didn't use the registry, I searched it too, no luck there.

Thanks for getting back to me.? I have some other problems too, but better to find
a previous thread or start a new one, rather than hijack this one.

Jim



At 03:43 PM 9/9/2014, you wrote:

?


The answer depends on the operating system:


Windows:? ?? $SystemDrive:\Users\$USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\D-RATS
?? --> If you can't find this directory in File Explorer, you have to enable the displaying of hidden directories

Linux:? ?? ? ? ?? ~$USER/.d-rats

--David
KI6ZHD



On 09/09/2014 03:17 PM, emptech@... [d-rats_group] wrote:

??

I know this question is kind of old, but if you can't remove it using control panel, according to the
d-rats documentation, because it is such a simple installation, all you have to do is delete the
entire d-rats directory.?? The program does not use the system registry at all.

Since I offered this, does anybody know where d-rats stores its settings??? They are in some
file in the d-rats directory tree somewhere, I haven't had luck finding the file.?? I'm trying to find
a way to save the settings so I can share them with others, rather than changing one item at
a time.

James R. Holtzman
Empirical Technology
Carmichael, CA? 95608
(916) 487-9712
emptech@...

开云体育

The answer depends on the operating system:


Windows:?? $SystemDrive:\Users\$USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\D-RATS
? --> If you can't find this directory in File Explorer, you have to enable the displaying of hidden directories

Linux:?? ??? ~$USER/.d-rats

--David
KI6ZHD

I know this question is kind of old, but if you can't remove it using control panel, according to the
d-rats documentation, because it is such a simple installation, all you have to do is delete the
entire d-rats directory.? The program does not use the system registry at all.

Since I offered this, does anybody know where d-rats stores its settings?? They are in some
file in the d-rats directory tree somewhere, I haven't had luck finding the file.? I'm trying to find
a way to save the settings so I can share them with others, rather than changing one item at
a time.

Thanks -? Jim? k6nra

I'm interested in training, have been using d-rats for about a year now, not working right,
not sure if the configuration is the problem, but always eager to learn -? please sign me
up.

Jim H. k6nra? Sacramento? emptech@...