I have spent several hours today tying to get drats installed on my windows 11 machine. I followed John's instructions as best I could. I installed lzhuf, msys2 and mingw64 I then went to install ;$ wget and got this return......
--2023-03-26 21:33:24--?
and got this return???
Loaded CA certificate '/usr/ssl/certs/ca-bundle.crt'
Resolving raw.githubusercontent.com (raw.githubusercontent.com)... 2606:50c0:8001::154, 2606:50c0:8002::154, 2606:50c0:8003::154, ...
Connecting to raw.githubusercontent.com (raw.githubusercontent.com)|2606:50c0:8001::154|:443... connected.
ERROR: The certificate of ‘raw.githubusercontent.com’ is not trusted.
ERROR: The certificate of ‘raw.githubusercontent.com’ doesn't have a known issuer.
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I found out that Python was not in the variables path and !!#!#$#$
and where is this GTK thing?????
i next tied the wget https:// raw
and again got some error back concerning raw
What ever happen to the time when I could download the drats software and installed it without all the errors..?
I am sorry but this? install is a terrible? ?
I GIVE UP!!!!
73 to all
good night
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Re: Ratflector list setup ham-radio-software/ratflectors
Oops, I should have started this as a new thread...
John,
I filed the below as GitHub Issue #169 in D-Rats:?
What's the proper way to run D-Rats 0.4.0 from Linux now? Is this it? If not, please advise.
1. git clone the repository to a writable directory 2. cd to D-Rats directory 3. Run sudo ./setup.py build 4. Run sudo ./setup.py install 5. Run installed D-Rats from Application Launcher.
I tried this and after after launching from terminal, get "ModuleNotFoundError: no module named 'd_rats'". What I am discovering, when inspecting the filesystem is that I am running Python 3.10 and the directory?/usr/local/lib/python3.10/dist-packages/ doesn't have the "d_rats" directory contained within. This appears to be an installer misfire?
I did discover I can run D-Rats directly from the git clone directory, however, without running setup.py. While this "works" and I can run D-Rats and connect to and , I don't believe this is the "right" way to run D-Rats.
Guidance, please?
Thanks and 73,
On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 5:57?PM John E. Malmberg < wb8tyw@...> wrote: On 3/26/2023 4:49 PM, Dave Slotter, W3DJS wrote:
> John,
>
> I believe I have your first addition ready for merging. Please look for a
> Pull Request (PR) from dslotter:georgia_ratflectors :
>
I merged it in.? I tried those two and I was not able to connect to them
earlier today, but I may have errors in my configuration settings.
I am hoping that having this list will make it easier to setup D-Rats i
the future.
Thanks,
-John
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Re: Ratflector list setup ham-radio-software/ratflectors
John,
I filed the below as GitHub Issue #169 in D-Rats:?
What's the proper way to run D-Rats 0.4.0 from Linux now? Is this it? If not, please advise.
1. git clone the repository to a writable directory 2. cd to D-Rats directory 3. Run sudo ./setup.py build 4. Run sudo ./setup.py install 5. Run installed D-Rats from Application Launcher.
I tried this and after after launching from terminal, get "ModuleNotFoundError: no module named 'd_rats'". What I am discovering, when inspecting the filesystem is that I am running Python 3.10 and the directory?/usr/local/lib/python3.10/dist-packages/ doesn't have the "d_rats" directory contained within. This appears to be an installer misfire?
I did discover I can run D-Rats directly from the git clone directory, however, without running setup.py. While this "works" and I can run D-Rats and connect to and , I don't believe this is the "right" way to run D-Rats.
Guidance, please?
Thanks and 73,
On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 5:57?PM John E. Malmberg < wb8tyw@...> wrote: On 3/26/2023 4:49 PM, Dave Slotter, W3DJS wrote:
> John,
>
> I believe I have your first addition ready for merging. Please look for a
> Pull Request (PR) from dslotter:georgia_ratflectors :
>
I merged it in.? I tried those two and I was not able to connect to them
earlier today, but I may have errors in my configuration settings.
I am hoping that having this list will make it easier to setup D-Rats i
the future.
Thanks,
-John
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--??+?? ?Lifetime Member of?///?--
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Re: Ratflector list setup ham-radio-software/ratflectors
On 3/26/2023 4:49 PM, Dave Slotter, W3DJS wrote: John,
I believe I have your first addition ready for merging. Please look for a
Pull Request (PR) from dslotter:georgia_ratflectors :
I merged it in. I tried those two and I was not able to connect to them earlier today, but I may have errors in my configuration settings. I am hoping that having this list will make it easier to setup D-Rats i the future. Thanks, -John
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Re: Ratflector list setup ham-radio-software/ratflectors
John,
I believe I have your first addition ready for merging. Please look for a Pull Request (PR) from dslotter:georgia_ratflectors :?
73,
On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 5:11?PM John E. Malmberg < wb8tyw@...> wrote: Hello all,
I have set up a ratflectors list that in the future I plan to have
D-Rats allow coping entries from it into the active configuration
instead of having to transcribe entries into it.
I am hoping that others will be able to help with keeping it up to date.
I chose the YAML format as it is both human readable, and it can easily
interpreted by Python and other programs.
To update it, you only need to join the ham-radio-software github project.
Pull requests will be checked for by github for syntax errors.
73,
-John
wb8tyw
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Ratflector list setup ham-radio-software/ratflectors
Hello all,
I have set up a ratflectors list that in the future I plan to have D-Rats allow coping entries from it into the active configuration instead of having to transcribe entries into it.
I am hoping that others will be able to help with keeping it up to date.
I chose the YAML format as it is both human readable, and it can easily interpreted by Python and other programs.
To update it, you only need to join the ham-radio-software github project.
Pull requests will be checked for by github for syntax errors.
73,
-John
wb8tyw
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The following files and folders have been uploaded to the Files area of the d-rats@groups.io group.
By: John E. Malmberg <wb8tyw@...>
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Re: So Close! ON RPI400 (keyboard) & ICOM-705 Need help!
On 3/25/2023 7:34 AM, mike Kennedy wrote: Solved it!!
So after working we a local fellow ham radio friend, We have figured it out!
The main thing is that I was using the wrong serial port.
I have to use the serial Port B, Or /dev/ttyACM1 for me on my RPI400 ? NOT /dev/ttyACM0.
If there is somewhere in the wiki where this can be added, it would be extremely helpful.
Coming from using hamlib and CV-I for things like FT8 and such, I
thought it would use the same. While this mailing list has an optional wiki, that feature does not appear to be enabled for list members to contribute to and currently has no changes. If you or others join the ham-radio-software github project with your github account, you can help with the updates to the Wiki's there. Regards, -John
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Re: DRATS 0.3.3 on Windows 11
On 3/24/2023 7:46 PM, Russ Harmon wrote: Thanks John, Now to answer your questions. Drats version is legacy on a windows 11 machine.
The solutions offered did not resolved the problem.
I tried to work through the error log; down loaded simplejson and python to install simplejson. The drats share folder is on my desktop with a path through user> russh> desktop>onedrive>D-Rats shared folder. There will likely be no bug fixes for the legacy Python 2 version of D-Rats. We do not have enough volunteers to make timely fixes to the Python3 version that we are able to test. There should no reason to continue to attempt to run the legacy version of D-Rats on any system. And the legacy version of D-Rats on older Power PC MAC-OS or Sun Sparc platforms, etc can not exchange files with D-Rats on Windows. You have already spent more time trying to get the obsolete version to work than it takes to install the current version of D-Rats on Windows. There is no way to run the legacy version on D-Rats anymore on many modern Linux/Unix systems, which are my primary development platform for D-Rats. Currently the only way that I can install D-Rats on Windows is: . The issue that is causing the crash is documented in: . It seems to show up with people who use the default option of logging into Windows with an online account instead of the local account option that Microsoft seems to be trying to discourage and hide. It appears that for Microsoft is doing something creative with the login and desktop directories for online accounts that the D-Rats code, both old and new does not understand. As per my personal strong preference of only using local accounts, I have no way to test such issues, and have to rely on the other testers for the bug reports to diagnose the issue. Your download of a newer (unspecified) python or the simplejson (from an unspecified source) will probably not be used by the legacy D-Rats because it does not update the embedded private copy of python that the legacy D-Rats is using, unless you are directly tampering with the files installed by the legacy version. And as I previously replied, the lack of simplejson just disables the GEOCODE feature, which has not worked in the legacy D-RATS since Yahoo shut down the service it was connecting to a few years ago. 73, -John
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Re: So Close! ON RPI400 (keyboard) & ICOM-705 Need help!
Solved it!!
So after working we a local fellow ham radio friend, We have figured it out!
The main thing is that I was using the wrong serial port.
I have to use the serial Port B, Or /dev/ttyACM1 for me on my RPI400 ? NOT ? /dev/ttyACM0.
If there is somewhere in the wiki where this can be added, it would be extremely helpful.
Coming from using hamlib and CV-I for things like FT8 and such, I thought it would use the same.
Hope that this helps people!
Thanks!
Mike Kennedy
VA3TEC
Ottawa, Canada
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Re: DRATS 0.3.3 on Windows 11
Thanks John,?
I am not familiar with how to message in groups when I sent that error report.?
I think I have since read a bit on how to do things correctly and will try harder in the future.?
Now to answer your questions. Drats version is legacy on a windows 11 machine.?
The solutions offered did not resolved the problem.?
?I tried to work through the error log; down loaded simplejson and python to install simplejson.? The drats share folder is on my desktop with a path through user> russh> desktop>onedrive>D-Rats shared folder.?
Thanks?
Russ Harmon
Salt Lake County ARES EC?
russharmon@...?
801.554. 0215
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From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@...>
Date: 3/24/23 17:28 (GMT-07:00)
To: d-rats@groups.io
Subject: Re: [d-rats] DRATS 0.3.3 on Windows 11
On 3/17/2023 5:32 PM, Russ Harmon wrote:> I have the very same problem.?
??I have the legacy program.
You are replying to a message from Nov 7, 2021, with no quoted context
for us to go on.? And the message that you replied to was someone that
started a new thread instead of replying to the existing thread with the
same subject.
A reply to the existing thread on November 9, 2021 described what is
needed to fix your issue, and can be read with a browser at
It is a known issue caused by the way that the login account on Windows
10/11 is setup for some people.? It is still an existing bug in the
current D-Rats requiring that or an equivalent work around.? There is a
D-Rats ticket open on that issue, but currently I have not had time to
get to it.
Also we would need to know the exact D-Rats version you are attempting
to use and how you are attempting to use it.? Be aware that fixes are
only going into the Python 3 version of D-Rats, which on Windows runs
under the Msys2 mingw64 system.
The Geocoders module in older D-Rats like 3.3 has no hope of working as
it is hard coded to use a Yahoo service that has been discontinued.
Only the current Python 3 D-Rats version supports the geocode
functionality, and on Microsoft Windows, that requires running it in
virtualenv, not the simple install option. As no one seemed to have
noticed it was broken a long time, I doubt that you will miss it.
See
for installing the current version.
And it would be helpful to read
for a successful install, and
for one that was not successful, and I hope since there was no reply to
the second message that the problem was solved.
73,
-John
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Re: DRATS 0.3.3 on Windows 11
On 3/17/2023 5:32 PM, Russ Harmon wrote:> I have the very same problem.? ?I have the legacy program. You are replying to a message from Nov 7, 2021, with no quoted context for us to go on. And the message that you replied to was someone that started a new thread instead of replying to the existing thread with the same subject. A reply to the existing thread on November 9, 2021 described what is needed to fix your issue, and can be read with a browser at /g/d-rats/message/2047It is a known issue caused by the way that the login account on Windows 10/11 is setup for some people. It is still an existing bug in the current D-Rats requiring that or an equivalent work around. There is a D-Rats ticket open on that issue, but currently I have not had time to get to it. Also we would need to know the exact D-Rats version you are attempting to use and how you are attempting to use it. Be aware that fixes are only going into the Python 3 version of D-Rats, which on Windows runs under the Msys2 mingw64 system. The Geocoders module in older D-Rats like 3.3 has no hope of working as it is hard coded to use a Yahoo service that has been discontinued. Only the current Python 3 D-Rats version supports the geocode functionality, and on Microsoft Windows, that requires running it in virtualenv, not the simple install option. As no one seemed to have noticed it was broken a long time, I doubt that you will miss it. See for installing the current version. And it would be helpful to read /g/d-rats/message/2581 for a successful install, and /g/d-rats/message/2583 for one that was not successful, and I hope since there was no reply to the second message that the problem was solved. 73, -John
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Re: drats install crash 2nd request for help
Somehow I missed several of the posts in the other thread, which I will reply to next to keep all the information in grouped together properly.
It makes it hard to find previous context when you do a "reply" to a different topic, instead of write to a new message.
In e-mail, when you use "WRITE" or create a new post, it creates a Unique Message ID, which many e-mail programs use to group messages.
When you use "REPLY", it reuses that Unique Message ID of the message being replied to, and on many e-mail programs it will group that message with the previous message, even if you change the subject, so these two messages are still being tracked with the dstar registration thread.
73,
-John
wb8tyw
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drats install crash 2nd request for help
Here is the debug log from my attempt to install drats. i have downloaded simplejson, yet I don't know what to do with it. the drats config file does not exist in the path the d-rats shared folder path is:?C:\Users\russh\OneDrive\Desktop. This folder i created on my desktop.
Enabled debug log
simplejson was not found. Geocoders relying on JSON parsing will not work.
FILE: C:\Users\russh\AppData\Roaming\D-RATS\d-rats.config
Creating downlaod directory: C:\Users\russh\Desktop\D-RATS Shared
---- GUI Exception ----
Traceback (most recent call last):
?
? File "d-rats", line 118, in <module>
?
? File "d_rats\mainapp.pyo", line 946, in __init__
?
? File "d_rats\config.pyo", line 1742, in __init__
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WindowsError: [Error 3] The system cannot find the path specified: 'C:\\Users\\russh\\Desktop\\D-RATS Shared'
?
---- End ----
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Re: Anyone know how to get access to dstar registration?
Gentlemen,? I concur, Terry is a consumate professional with everything D-Star. He will definitely be able to assist you. 73’s de Vic K6VIZ
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On Mar 23, 2023, at 2:51 PM, Jack Spitznagel (KD4IZ) <kd4iz@...> wrote:
? Brad,
Reach out to Terry, N8LN. His email is good on QRZ. He is an admin for the US Trust and should be able to help.
Jack - KD4IZ? On Mar 23, 2023, at 17:07, Brad Morris <bradm75@...> wrote:
?So in 2012 when I registered for Dstar access, I used an email account that I no longer have.? I can't remember what password I used to register and without access to the old email account, I can't recover my password.? I've asked a few others who are in the same boat as me.? Of the two gateways that I registered on (yes, I now know I shouldn't have done that), one is defunct and the other doesn't respond to email questions.??
Does anyone know how I can contact the admins at??and ask for help?? They also don't list any contact info.
73,
Brad, KA3YAN
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Re: Anyone know how to get access to dstar registration?
Hi Brad,? Are you having problems accessing the D-Star system? What is the issue that you are currently experiencing? Just trying to get a better picture of the situation so that I can better help you. 73’s de Vic K6VIZ
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On Mar 23, 2023, at 2:07 PM, Brad Morris <bradm75@...> wrote:
?So in 2012 when I registered for Dstar access, I used an email account that I no longer have.? I can't remember what password I used to register and without access to the old email account, I can't recover my password.? I've asked a few others who are in the same boat as me.? Of the two gateways that I registered on (yes, I now know I shouldn't have done that), one is defunct and the other doesn't respond to email questions.??
Does anyone know how I can contact the admins at??and ask for help?? They also don't list any contact info.
73,
Brad, KA3YAN
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Re: Anyone know how to get access to dstar registration?
You can register at . You will get an email back with the final instructions to complete the registration.
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John WB4QDX
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From: d-rats@groups.io <d-rats@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Jack Spitznagel (KD4IZ)
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 5:52 PM
To: d-rats@groups.io
Subject: Re: [d-rats] Anyone know how to get access to dstar registration?
?
Brad,
Reach out to Terry, N8LN. His email is good on QRZ. He is an admin for the US Trust and should be able to help.
Jack - KD4IZ?
On Mar 23, 2023, at 17:07, Brad Morris <bradm75@...> wrote:
?So in 2012 when I registered for Dstar access, I used an email account that I no longer have.? I can't remember what password I used to register and without access to the old email account, I can't recover my password.? I've asked a few
others who are in the same boat as me.? Of the two gateways that I registered on (yes, I now know I shouldn't have done that), one is defunct and the other doesn't respond to email questions.??
Does anyone know how I can contact the admins at??and ask for help?? They also don't list any contact info.
73,
Brad, KA3YAN
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Re: Anyone know how to get access to dstar registration?
Brad,
Reach out to Terry, N8LN. His email is good on QRZ. He is an admin for the US Trust and should be able to help.
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On Mar 23, 2023, at 17:07, Brad Morris <bradm75@...> wrote:
?So in 2012 when I registered for Dstar access, I used an email account that I no longer have.? I can't remember what password I used to register and without access to the old email account, I can't recover my password.? I've asked a few others who are in the same boat as me.? Of the two gateways that I registered on (yes, I now know I shouldn't have done that), one is defunct and the other doesn't respond to email questions.??
Does anyone know how I can contact the admins at??and ask for help?? They also don't list any contact info.
73,
Brad, KA3YAN
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So Close! ON RPI400 (keyboard) & ICOM-705 Need help!
Hello All: I was able to compile the "latest" version of d-rats.py (version 0.3.10b6.dev288-gf74de89-dirty) Python3.9 GTK 3.24.24, on my RPI400 installation of 73Linux (KM4ACK) Attached is a screenshot of the situation! I am able to connect to my ICOM-705 over USB and receive my CQCQCQ ONLY. Yeah! :) But, in my opinion this is GREAT start!? I am VERY new to d-rats so if I am missing something completely obvious, I apologize. I am not able to Chat or send messages over the air with anyone, Basically I cannot transmit over RF at all. Connecting to the rest of the d-rats network over the internet is not my primary goal, Yet. I would like to get CHAT and "data" transfer over the air working first, if that's ok. the CQCQCQ comes up after I switch into DR and back again and When I transmit manually with the mic ptt. What Do I need to try next?? I am fresh out of idea's!? I am running d-rats in sudo mode to allow python to have access to the serial port. (yes it's temporary) ANY idea's I would love to hear from you!!??? Thanks!?? Mike Kennedy VA3TEC (Ottawa, Canada)  Radio interface setting. 
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Re: DRATS 0.3.3 on Windows 11
I have the very same problem.? ?I have the legacy program. Things I noticed. The install did not create the d-rats.conf file.. My path is Local Disk (c:) > Users > russh > AppData > Roaming > D-RATS I have the debug file and the Form_Templates folder I made? the Shared folder on my desktop as described in the instructions.? This computer is a Window 11 and I have the same issue on my window 10 machine
Enabled debug log
simplejson was not found. Geocoders relying on JSON parsing will not work.
FILE: C:\Users\russh\AppData\Roaming\D-RATS\d-rats.config
Creating downlaod directory: C:\Users\russh\Desktop\D-RATS Shared
---- GUI Exception ----
Traceback (most recent call last):
?
? File "d-rats", line 118, in <module>
?
? File "d_rats\mainapp.pyo", line 946, in __init__
?
? File "d_rats\config.pyo", line 1742, in __init__
?
WindowsError: [Error 3] The system cannot find the path specified: 'C:\\Users\\russh\\Desktop\\D-RATS Shared'
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Dave Slotter, W3DJS
Victor Zarich
Jack Spitznagel (KD4IZ)