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Re: Using D-RATS with your radio

 

Patrick, do you know the data port speed of the id5100?? Jim. K6nra

On Jun 12, 2022 9:52 AM, "Patrick Connor via groups.io" <n3tsz@...> wrote:
The RT Systems blue cable with a 3.5mm phone plug is a cloning cable and can not be used with D-RATS.
The RT Systems orange cable with a 2.5mm phone plug is a data cable and allows access to the low speed data channel.
Instructions for setting up an ID-880 and building your own data cable can be found?here.
The radio settings are similar to most iCOM radios. You have a choice of 4800 or 9600 for the port speed. The only exception is ID-91AD and ID-92AD are fixed at 38400, and the ID-1 is 19200.
Consult the Low Speed Data section of the instruction manual for your radio for more details.


Using D-RATS with your radio

 

The RT Systems blue cable with a 3.5mm phone plug is a cloning cable and can not be used with D-RATS.
The RT Systems orange cable with a 2.5mm phone plug is a data cable and allows access to the low speed data channel.
Instructions for setting up an ID-880 and building your own data cable can be found?here.
The radio settings are similar to most iCOM radios. You have a choice of 4800 or 9600 for the port speed. The only exception is ID-91AD and ID-92AD are fixed at 38400, and the ID-1 is 19200.
Consult the Low Speed Data section of the instruction manual for your radio for more details.


Re: D-rats not keying ID-51A

 

I would suggest double checking all of your Radio settings to be sure they are correct per the D-RATS suggested settings. What version of D-RATS are you running?

I use the RT Systems USB-RTS05 (orange cable) for all of my Icom radios. D-RATS works fine on all of them; ID-5100, ID-51a Plus, ID-880H and both of my IC-2820's. I have not found anything that I cannot do with this "proprietary" cable vs any other, either Icom or homebrew. The ID-51 DATA port outer diameter is smaller than standard, so make sure the cable end is all the way in. Homebrew cables may not fit, and need to have the outer housing trimmed slightly.

Note: The program only looks to see if the COM Port is connected, not the radio itself, so a bad connection at the radio will give you a No TX situation.

Jeff
VE7GIE


Re: D-rats not keying ID-51A

 

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Jim: ?

I have tried the RT System cable on my ID 5100 and DRats with no success. ?It sounds like you have done something like having a radio working with DRats with some cable. Then leaving the settings the same just switched to an RT Systems cable and found it did not work. ?Is that correct? ?For Icom radios to work DRats is the ICOM cable the only one that will work? ?Are there other cables you know will work?

Thanks in advance for your help and 73,

Rod Whitaker
KA5MYE

Rod

On Jun 12, 2022, at 12:37 AM, James Holtzman via groups.io <emptech@...> wrote:

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Right, none of the RT system cables I have can not be used to control radios, only to program them.

Jim k6nra

------ Original Message ------
From: "Teton Amateur Radio Repeater Association (TARRA)" <tarra@...>
Sent: 6/11/2022 1:28:58 PM
Subject: Re: [d-rats] D-rats not keying ID-51A

Since most of the RT Systems cables are pretty much proprietary, I would try a basic cable and see what happens. That is about the only thing you haven't tried.

Mick - W7CAT

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Boltzmann via groups.io"
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 04:38:37 PM
Subject: Re: [d-rats] D-rats not keying ID-51A

> [Edited Message Follows]
> [Reason: problem is not d-rats but d-star, looking for a solution]
>
> Hi, this is Jim K6NRA.? Helping a friend out who has a ID-51A Plus. We have not been able to get the radio to xmit, as the previous discussion indicated.? I know I have the correct com port, that is, device manager matches the one used in radio preferences.? Also the cable I've been using works fine for radio programing, so I know the cable is good.? I even purchased the software from RT Systems, a lot more user-friendly than the Icom s/w.
>
> I've checked my radio settings as per this thread, the radio via the computer will not key up.
>
> If I use DRATS with my ICOM 92AD, works fine, of course, I had to use the special Icom cable with usb-rs-232 adaptor, so I know everything on the computer side is good.
>
> edit:? Previous sentence, DRATS works fine with my ICOM 92AD on SIMPLEX, turns out it does not work through our local DSTAR repeater (2m).? After doing many factory resets, making tiny changes in the radio programming, still having problems with the 92. What was found, some operator's radios signals (voice or data) will make it through the repeater but not everybody's radios will make it to my 92.? I'm afraid I've been barking up the wrong tree here, now believing the problem has to be with the other user's radio, in this case an Icom 2820.? It's as though like analog, if the 2820 transmitted with a PL code and the repeater passed it, and thus the 92 opens up, vs, a 2820 not encoding the output with a pl code and thus the 92 not picking up the data.
>
> I know DSTAR does not use PL codes (analog or digital), so what could be missing in the 2820 programming?? I know this is more of a DSTAR issue, not a D-RATS issue but by using D-RATS is how the problem was identified.? Just need the fix.??? -? Jim k6nra
>
> Is there such a thing as setting the radio back to factory defaults, as I don't know what settings the owner did. - solved
>
> I've got a full head of hair right now, but it isn't going to last long as I keep pulling it out, I've spent lots of hours on this thing.? The only thing I didn't do is look at the RS-232 voltages going into and from the radio. - problem solved
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>
--


Re: D-rats not keying ID-51A

 

Right, none of the RT system cables I have can not be used to control radios, only to program them.

Jim k6nra

------ Original Message ------
From: "Teton Amateur Radio Repeater Association (TARRA)" <tarra@...>
Sent: 6/11/2022 1:28:58 PM
Subject: Re: [d-rats] D-rats not keying ID-51A

Since most of the RT Systems cables are pretty much proprietary, I would try a basic cable and see what happens. That is about the only thing you haven't tried.

Mick - W7CAT

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Boltzmann via groups.io"
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 04:38:37 PM
Subject: Re: [d-rats] D-rats not keying ID-51A

> [Edited Message Follows]
> [Reason: problem is not d-rats but d-star, looking for a solution]
>
> Hi, this is Jim K6NRA.? Helping a friend out who has a ID-51A Plus. We have not been able to get the radio to xmit, as the previous discussion indicated.? I know I have the correct com port, that is, device manager matches the one used in radio preferences.? Also the cable I've been using works fine for radio programing, so I know the cable is good.? I even purchased the software from RT Systems, a lot more user-friendly than the Icom s/w.
>
> I've checked my radio settings as per this thread, the radio via the computer will not key up.
>
> If I use DRATS with my ICOM 92AD, works fine, of course, I had to use the special Icom cable with usb-rs-232 adaptor, so I know everything on the computer side is good.
>
> edit:? Previous sentence, DRATS works fine with my ICOM 92AD on SIMPLEX, turns out it does not work through our local DSTAR repeater (2m).? After doing many factory resets, making tiny changes in the radio programming, still having problems with the 92. What was found, some operator's radios signals (voice or data) will make it through the repeater but not everybody's radios will make it to my 92.? I'm afraid I've been barking up the wrong tree here, now believing the problem has to be with the other user's radio, in this case an Icom 2820.? It's as though like analog, if the 2820 transmitted with a PL code and the repeater passed it, and thus the 92 opens up, vs, a 2820 not encoding the output with a pl code and thus the 92 not picking up the data.
>
> I know DSTAR does not use PL codes (analog or digital), so what could be missing in the 2820 programming?? I know this is more of a DSTAR issue, not a D-RATS issue but by using D-RATS is how the problem was identified.? Just need the fix.??? -? Jim k6nra
>
> Is there such a thing as setting the radio back to factory defaults, as I don't know what settings the owner did. - solved
>
> I've got a full head of hair right now, but it isn't going to last long as I keep pulling it out, I've spent lots of hours on this thing.? The only thing I didn't do is look at the RS-232 voltages going into and from the radio. - problem solved
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>
--


Re: D-rats not keying ID-51A

 

Turns out the repeater is fine, one of the radios (2820) I was using was not programmed for the repeater, only simplex, problem solved.

Jim k6nra

------ Original Message ------
From: "ki4udz via groups.io" <raysipenc@...>
Sent: 6/11/2022 1:41:40 PM
Subject: Re: [d-rats] D-rats not keying ID-51A

Have you tried a different repeater?
There have been reports of some non-Icom repeaters not behaving well with older D-Star radios.

Ray
KI4UDZ?


On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 15:28, James Holtzman via groups.io
<emptech@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: problem is not d-rats but d-star, looking for a solution]

Hi, this is Jim K6NRA.? Helping a friend out who has a ID-51A Plus. We have not been able to get the radio to xmit, as the previous discussion indicated.? I know I have the correct com port, that is, device manager matches the one used in radio preferences.? Also the cable I've been using works fine for radio programing, so I know the cable is good.? I even purchased the software from RT Systems, a lot more user-friendly than the Icom s/w.

I've checked my radio settings as per this thread, the radio via the computer will not key up.

If I use DRATS with my ICOM 92AD, works fine, of course, I had to use the special Icom cable with usb-rs-232 adaptor, so I know everything on the computer side is good.

edit:? Previous sentence, DRATS works fine with my ICOM 92AD on SIMPLEX, turns out it does not work through our local DSTAR repeater (2m).? After doing many factory resets, making tiny changes in the radio programming, still having problems with the 92. What was found, some operator's radios signals (voice or data) will make it through the repeater but not everybody's radios will make it to my 92.? I'm afraid I've been barking up the wrong tree here, now believing the problem has to be with the other user's radio, in this case an Icom 2820.? It's as though like analog, if the 2820 transmitted with a PL code and the repeater passed it, and thus the 92 opens up, vs, a 2820 not encoding the output with a pl code and thus the 92 not picking up the data.

I know DSTAR does not use PL codes (analog or digital), so what could be missing in the 2820 programming?? I know this is more of a DSTAR issue, not a D-RATS issue but by using D-RATS is how the problem was identified.? Just need the fix.??? -? Jim k6nra

Is there such a thing as setting the radio back to factory defaults, as I don't know what settings the owner did. - solved

I've got a full head of hair right now, but it isn't going to last long as I keep pulling it out, I've spent lots of hours on this thing.? The only thing I didn't do is look at the RS-232 voltages going into and from the radio. - problem solved

Jim


Re: D-rats not keying ID-51A

 

Problem on the IC92AD solved.? I had no issues using voice on DSTAR.? My problems were with D-rats.? I've used several models of radios with D-Rats and usually communicating to the radio at 9600 baud.? For some reason I could xmit with the 92 but the data never got xmitted correctly.? Then I realized it had to be at 38.5kb, and bingo, the data went out and was readable.??
The other issue, I would not know that it worked unless I had a buddy on the air with me who could send and receive.? To make it more convenient? I borrowed a radio (2820) and a laptop from SHARP (sacramento sheriff's amateur radio program) so I could look across the room and see my progress.? Simplex worked just fine.? I then went to utilize our nearby DSTAR repeater, found that my 92 would send out ok? and the 2820 picked me up.? But, when a msg went out via the 2820, nothing.? After many hours of reprogramming, etc, I found the 2820 was never setup for a repeater.? Once I realized that, stopped spinning my wheels.

Bottom line, the 92 now works just fine.

now I'm back to touching up my ID5100.? I don't know the maximum baud rate I can send to it with, I'm trying to find that info.

So, we can close this trouble ticket, thanks everyone for helping out.? Now I can get back to our monthly DSTAR nets over RF.

Jim - k6nra

------ Original Message ------
From: "John WB4QDX" <jdavis@...>
Sent: 6/11/2022 3:47:05 PM
Subject: Re: [d-rats] D-rats not keying ID-51A

It’s likely one setting missing. If you follow the settings in /g/d-rats/files/D-RATS%20Radio%20Settings.pdf from the D-RATS group, it will work.

?

John WB4QDX

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of ki4udz via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 4:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [d-rats] D-rats not keying ID-51A

?

Have you tried a different repeater?

There have been reports of some non-Icom repeaters not behaving well with older D-Star radios.

?

Ray

KI4UDZ?

?

?

On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 15:28, James Holtzman via groups.io

<emptech@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: problem is not d-rats but d-star, looking for a solution]

Hi, this is Jim K6NRA.? Helping a friend out who has a ID-51A Plus. We have not been able to get the radio to xmit, as the previous discussion indicated.? I know I have the correct com port, that is, device manager matches the one used in radio preferences.? Also the cable I've been using works fine for radio programing, so I know the cable is good.? I even purchased the software from RT Systems, a lot more user-friendly than the Icom s/w.

I've checked my radio settings as per this thread, the radio via the computer will not key up.

If I use DRATS with my ICOM 92AD, works fine, of course, I had to use the special Icom cable with usb-rs-232 adaptor, so I know everything on the computer side is good.

edit:? Previous sentence, DRATS works fine with my ICOM 92AD on SIMPLEX, turns out it does not work through our local DSTAR repeater (2m).? After doing many factory resets, making tiny changes in the radio programming, still having problems with the 92. What was found, some operator's radios signals (voice or data) will make it through the repeater but not everybody's radios will make it to my 92.? I'm afraid I've been barking up the wrong tree here, now believing the problem has to be with the other user's radio, in this case an Icom 2820.? It's as though like analog, if the 2820 transmitted with a PL code and the repeater passed it, and thus the 92 opens up, vs, a 2820 not encoding the output with a pl code and thus the 92 not picking up the data.

I know DSTAR does not use PL codes (analog or digital), so what could be missing in the 2820 programming?? I know this is more of a DSTAR issue, not a D-RATS issue but by using D-RATS is how the problem was identified.? Just need the fix.??? -? Jim k6nra

Is there such a thing as setting the radio back to factory defaults, as I don't know what settings the owner did. - solved

I've got a full head of hair right now, but it isn't going to last long as I keep pulling it out, I've spent lots of hours on this thing.? The only thing I didn't do is look at the RS-232 voltages going into and from the radio. - problem solved

Jim


Re: D-rats not keying ID-51A

 

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It’s likely one setting missing. If you follow the settings in /g/d-rats/files/D-RATS%20Radio%20Settings.pdf from the D-RATS group, it will work.

?

John WB4QDX

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of ki4udz via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 4:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [d-rats] D-rats not keying ID-51A

?

Have you tried a different repeater?

There have been reports of some non-Icom repeaters not behaving well with older D-Star radios.

?

Ray

KI4UDZ?

?

?

On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 15:28, James Holtzman via groups.io

<emptech@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: problem is not d-rats but d-star, looking for a solution]

Hi, this is Jim K6NRA.? Helping a friend out who has a ID-51A Plus. We have not been able to get the radio to xmit, as the previous discussion indicated.? I know I have the correct com port, that is, device manager matches the one used in radio preferences.? Also the cable I've been using works fine for radio programing, so I know the cable is good.? I even purchased the software from RT Systems, a lot more user-friendly than the Icom s/w.

I've checked my radio settings as per this thread, the radio via the computer will not key up.

If I use DRATS with my ICOM 92AD, works fine, of course, I had to use the special Icom cable with usb-rs-232 adaptor, so I know everything on the computer side is good.

edit:? Previous sentence, DRATS works fine with my ICOM 92AD on SIMPLEX, turns out it does not work through our local DSTAR repeater (2m).? After doing many factory resets, making tiny changes in the radio programming, still having problems with the 92. What was found, some operator's radios signals (voice or data) will make it through the repeater but not everybody's radios will make it to my 92.? I'm afraid I've been barking up the wrong tree here, now believing the problem has to be with the other user's radio, in this case an Icom 2820.? It's as though like analog, if the 2820 transmitted with a PL code and the repeater passed it, and thus the 92 opens up, vs, a 2820 not encoding the output with a pl code and thus the 92 not picking up the data.

I know DSTAR does not use PL codes (analog or digital), so what could be missing in the 2820 programming?? I know this is more of a DSTAR issue, not a D-RATS issue but by using D-RATS is how the problem was identified.? Just need the fix.??? -? Jim k6nra

Is there such a thing as setting the radio back to factory defaults, as I don't know what settings the owner did. - solved

I've got a full head of hair right now, but it isn't going to last long as I keep pulling it out, I've spent lots of hours on this thing.? The only thing I didn't do is look at the RS-232 voltages going into and from the radio. - problem solved

Jim


Re: D-rats not keying ID-51A

 

Have you tried a different repeater?
There have been reports of some non-Icom repeaters not behaving well with older D-Star radios.

Ray
KI4UDZ?


On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 15:28, James Holtzman via groups.io
<emptech@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: problem is not d-rats but d-star, looking for a solution]

Hi, this is Jim K6NRA.? Helping a friend out who has a ID-51A Plus. We have not been able to get the radio to xmit, as the previous discussion indicated.? I know I have the correct com port, that is, device manager matches the one used in radio preferences.? Also the cable I've been using works fine for radio programing, so I know the cable is good.? I even purchased the software from RT Systems, a lot more user-friendly than the Icom s/w.

I've checked my radio settings as per this thread, the radio via the computer will not key up.

If I use DRATS with my ICOM 92AD, works fine, of course, I had to use the special Icom cable with usb-rs-232 adaptor, so I know everything on the computer side is good.

edit:? Previous sentence, DRATS works fine with my ICOM 92AD on SIMPLEX, turns out it does not work through our local DSTAR repeater (2m).? After doing many factory resets, making tiny changes in the radio programming, still having problems with the 92. What was found, some operator's radios signals (voice or data) will make it through the repeater but not everybody's radios will make it to my 92.? I'm afraid I've been barking up the wrong tree here, now believing the problem has to be with the other user's radio, in this case an Icom 2820.? It's as though like analog, if the 2820 transmitted with a PL code and the repeater passed it, and thus the 92 opens up, vs, a 2820 not encoding the output with a pl code and thus the 92 not picking up the data.

I know DSTAR does not use PL codes (analog or digital), so what could be missing in the 2820 programming?? I know this is more of a DSTAR issue, not a D-RATS issue but by using D-RATS is how the problem was identified.? Just need the fix.??? -? Jim k6nra

Is there such a thing as setting the radio back to factory defaults, as I don't know what settings the owner did. - solved

I've got a full head of hair right now, but it isn't going to last long as I keep pulling it out, I've spent lots of hours on this thing.? The only thing I didn't do is look at the RS-232 voltages going into and from the radio. - problem solved

Jim


Re: D-rats not keying ID-51A

 

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Since most of the RT Systems cables are pretty much proprietary, I would try a basic cable and see what happens. That is about the only thing you haven't tried.

Mick - W7CAT

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Boltzmann via groups.io"
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 04:38:37 PM
Subject: Re: [d-rats] D-rats not keying ID-51A

> [Edited Message Follows]
> [Reason: problem is not d-rats but d-star, looking for a solution]
>
> Hi, this is Jim K6NRA.? Helping a friend out who has a ID-51A Plus. We have not been able to get the radio to xmit, as the previous discussion indicated.? I know I have the correct com port, that is, device manager matches the one used in radio preferences.? Also the cable I've been using works fine for radio programing, so I know the cable is good.? I even purchased the software from RT Systems, a lot more user-friendly than the Icom s/w.
>
> I've checked my radio settings as per this thread, the radio via the computer will not key up.
>
> If I use DRATS with my ICOM 92AD, works fine, of course, I had to use the special Icom cable with usb-rs-232 adaptor, so I know everything on the computer side is good.
>
> edit:? Previous sentence, DRATS works fine with my ICOM 92AD on SIMPLEX, turns out it does not work through our local DSTAR repeater (2m).? After doing many factory resets, making tiny changes in the radio programming, still having problems with the 92. What was found, some operator's radios signals (voice or data) will make it through the repeater but not everybody's radios will make it to my 92.? I'm afraid I've been barking up the wrong tree here, now believing the problem has to be with the other user's radio, in this case an Icom 2820.? It's as though like analog, if the 2820 transmitted with a PL code and the repeater passed it, and thus the 92 opens up, vs, a 2820 not encoding the output with a pl code and thus the 92 not picking up the data.
>
> I know DSTAR does not use PL codes (analog or digital), so what could be missing in the 2820 programming?? I know this is more of a DSTAR issue, not a D-RATS issue but by using D-RATS is how the problem was identified.? Just need the fix.??? -? Jim k6nra
>
> Is there such a thing as setting the radio back to factory defaults, as I don't know what settings the owner did. - solved
>
> I've got a full head of hair right now, but it isn't going to last long as I keep pulling it out, I've spent lots of hours on this thing.? The only thing I didn't do is look at the RS-232 voltages going into and from the radio. - problem solved
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>
--


Re: AGWPE on repeaters

 

I have created a PR for my fork that adds the missing radio types to the repeater.

I don't have a way to test these.



73,
-John

On 6/4/2022 10:34 AM, John E. Malmberg wrote:
Hello Patrick,
I was just looking at the D-Rats repeater code.
You are right, there does not seem to be any code in it to support AGWPE, so it is not using entirely common code as other types are called out in the code.
I am not sure how hard it will be to add in the support, and I will not be able to test it.
I have filed a ticket: to track the issue.
73,
-John


On 6/2/2022 8:18 AM, Patrick Connor via groups.io wrote:
That may very well be true. There are several features in D-RATS that Dan started working on, but never followed through to the end. This may be another one.
Speaking of which, the AGWPE connection in the D-RATS repeater never worked. I would to connect is to a soundcard TNC, like Direwolf. I hope you can look into that, when you get a chance (it does work on the D-RATS client).





Re: AGWPE on repeaters

 

Hello Patrick,

I was just looking at the D-Rats repeater code.

You are right, there does not seem to be any code in it to support AGWPE, so it is not using entirely common code as other types are called out in the code.

I am not sure how hard it will be to add in the support, and I will not be able to test it.

I have filed a ticket: to track the issue.

73,
-John

On 6/2/2022 8:18 AM, Patrick Connor via groups.io wrote:
That may very well be true. There are several features in D-RATS that Dan started working on, but never followed through to the end. This may be another one.
Speaking of which, the AGWPE connection in the D-RATS repeater never worked. I would to connect is to a soundcard TNC, like Direwolf. I hope you can look into that, when you get a chance (it does work on the D-RATS client).


Re: D rats and e mail.

 

I have done that but for some reason it still doesn;t show up on their side if they are using winlink express.? do I need to add anything to the path on the message?

Virus-free.


On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 1:29 AM Glen Strecker <gstrecker55@...> wrote:
When sending an email through Winlink using D-Rats you must have //WL2K as the first thing in the subject line.??It is not enough to have their callsign@....??The //WL2K lets the Winlink system differentiate the message from spam emails.??Without it, the message will not be forwarded.

Cordially,

Glen P. Strecker -KG5CEN


Re: AGWPE on repeaters (was: Anyone know what Request Mail Check is supposed to do?_

 

Hello Patrick,

I think Rod, ka5mye was able to get that AGWPE with my python3 fork to work on the client.

As near as I can tell, the repeater code uses the same code as the client application, so it should work.

I don't recall making any specific bug fixes to the AGWPE code.

I fixed the endian specification to make it clear it was little-endian instead of network-endian, but that should not affect a Microsoft Windows platform.

I updated the d-rats code and header files to actually match the AGWPE documentation, again, that should not have changed how it worked.

So you can try it with fork, and if it does not work, then adding some logging calls may be needed to diagnose what is going wrong.

73,
-John

On 6/2/2022 8:18 AM, Patrick Connor via groups.io wrote:
That may very well be true. There are several features in D-RATS that Dan started working on, but never followed through to the end. This may be another one.
Speaking of which, the AGWPE connection in the D-RATS repeater never worked. I would to connect is to a soundcard TNC, like Direwolf. I hope you can look into that, when you get a chance (it does work on the D-RATS client).


Re: Anyone know what Request Mail Check is supposed to do?

 

Patrick,
I have never been able to get the Request Mail Check to work.??From the look of the thing, it allows the requesting station to pass its account credentials and password to the other station to have it check for email.??Every time I have tried it between my two stations I get an error message back from the ratflector. Mail check via KG5CEN-1: Failed ([Errno-2] Name or Service not known).??I don’t know what the problem is.??I even changed out of using gmail because Google decided that it would continually lock access to the account out to what it considers “less secure” apps.??I am now using accounts through outlook.com to forward messages to normal Internet accounts.? ?I have never seen the feature documented in the instruction documents.

To others interested in this topic, this has nothing to do with leaving mail for an offline or off the air station callsign with another station.??K3PDR and KG5CEN-1 both act as Mail and File Servers where you can leave a message to another D-Rats user not currently visible in the list of active stations.??(KG5CEN-1 is the StTammany.ratflector.com ratflector).??The feature we are discussing is supposed to allow a station in an area where the Internet is not available to check for Internet or Winlink emails through a station that still has Internet access.??It appears that the requesting station is sending the credentials (user name and password) to the station being asked to do the check.??The password is obscured so the other station cannot see it.??This is not a feature that I personally have never tried to use in the past, so I don’t know if it has ever worked.

The feature would probably be for inbound traffic only.??If you had outbound traffic, it possibly would be forwarded by using the SEND VIA command to another station that had Internet access for outbound traffic.??

Cordially,

Glen P. Strecker


Re: D-Rats to Packet Radio (BPQ network)

 

I HAVE D-RATS BUT DON'T KNOW HOW THE MAIL WORKS FOR SURE YET.? I GOT YOUR EMAIL ON G-MAIL.
IF I SEE SOMETHING FROM YOU ON D-RATS I WILL REPLY. GL AND 73 DE KC5SAM

On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 8:25 PM Scott Schladweiler <schlad21@...> wrote:
Was this test a success?


Re: D-Rats to Packet Radio (BPQ network)

 

Was this test a success?


Re: Is anyone using d-rats with agwpe?

 

John,

I've used that with two UV-5R's & Direwolf. It's been quite a few years now though. I would Imagine at least 1 of the machines was a raspberry pi & the other end was windows (I only had the 1 windows box at the time).?

Best Regards,

Scott
K0SHD


Re: Anyone know what Request Mail Check is supposed to do?

 

That may very well be true. There are several features in D-RATS that Dan started working on, but never followed through to the end. This may be another one.

Speaking of which, the AGWPE connection in the D-RATS repeater never worked. I would to connect is to a soundcard TNC, like Direwolf. I hope you can look into that, when you get a chance (it does work on the D-RATS client).

Thanks,
Patrick (N3TSZ)


On Thursday, June 2, 2022, 09:02:42 AM EDT, John E. Malmberg <wb8tyw@...> wrote:


Hello Patrick, All,

The mailcheck button asks for you to select an account, and gives a
choice of the locally configured accounts, and an additional account
named "Other" is is created by the mailcheck button and added to the list.

For the 0.3.x D-rats, It looks like the intent is for the first account
in your configuration is the default, but that is not guaranteed.

All the data, existed or entered into the dialog is then ignored for
because it was marked sensitive. (Field disabled for reading).

The existing code in the master branch then has a bug at line 78 in
main_stations.py that should crash d-rats.? It is calling the
choose_account handler, but passing the wrong type of python object as
the parameter. That call should not be there.

Once that bug is removed, for me so far, the remote machine refuses the
connection, claiming name or service not known.

So it does not look like anyone using the actually able to use this
feature with recent versions of d-rats.

73,
-John
wb8tyw


On 6/1/2022 7:16 AM, Patrick Connor via groups.io wrote:
> Hi John,Here is the use case scenario:Your D-RATS station does not does not access to the internet (deployed in the field or mobile, using a radio).You select a station from the list and right-click and select Request Mail Check.IF the station you select has an Internet connection AND has your E-mail settings saved under E-mail Accounts, will query your E-mail account. I do not know if the E-mail will be downloaded and transferred to the requesting station, or just notified if you have messages waiting.
> Patrick (N3TSZ)






Re: Anyone know what Request Mail Check is supposed to do?

 

Hello Patrick, All,

The mailcheck button asks for you to select an account, and gives a choice of the locally configured accounts, and an additional account named "Other" is is created by the mailcheck button and added to the list.

For the 0.3.x D-rats, It looks like the intent is for the first account in your configuration is the default, but that is not guaranteed.

All the data, existed or entered into the dialog is then ignored for because it was marked sensitive. (Field disabled for reading).

The existing code in the master branch then has a bug at line 78 in main_stations.py that should crash d-rats. It is calling the choose_account handler, but passing the wrong type of python object as the parameter. That call should not be there.

Once that bug is removed, for me so far, the remote machine refuses the connection, claiming name or service not known.

So it does not look like anyone using the actually able to use this feature with recent versions of d-rats.

73,
-John
wb8tyw

On 6/1/2022 7:16 AM, Patrick Connor via groups.io wrote:
Hi John,Here is the use case scenario:Your D-RATS station does not does not access to the internet (deployed in the field or mobile, using a radio).You select a station from the list and right-click and select Request Mail Check.IF the station you select has an Internet connection AND has your E-mail settings saved under E-mail Accounts, will query your E-mail account. I do not know if the E-mail will be downloaded and transferred to the requesting station, or just notified if you have messages waiting.
Patrick (N3TSZ)