Hello Group,?
I am interested in running D-RATS without an Internet connection. I have an IC-9700 connected to a PC using the Data port and the data cable. I have set a port for the IC-9700 and when I ping all stations, the radio transmits, which is a good sign. I have several ratflectors configured in D-RATS, such as?gaares.ratflector.com. The radio is connected to the W4DOC repeater, module C, and I have configured all Connector and DV settings as explained in this forum. The question is as follows: Can I connect through the repeater to ratflectors using an RF-only port (ie, no internet on the host PC). Our Internet connection has gone down many times (tree limbs cutting the fiber optic during a storm), and it would be nice to have chat functionality via D-RATS in that scenario. What am I missing? When I post a message to the D-RATS chat under this condition there is no response.?
Thank you!
Facundo
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Wanting to get back into D-Rats
What is a source to start from scratch?? I have renewed interest because of this grouThank you es 73,
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There is a check box under Preferences on the Messages tab that says “Include original message in reply?”??If you do not check that block, your replies will not save and include the original message.??If you want to keep the original in the reply, go into Preferences and check off that block and hit Save.
Cordially,
Glen Strecker - KG5CEN
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I have 2 screen saves here. This is what happens if I try to reply to the message I received.
All most all the info that was populated by the sender is lost when i chose reply. Anyone have a clue or is this normal.
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Re: D-Rats to Packet Radio (BPQ network)
I would be interested too.
--73 de N1OBU
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Re: D-Rats to Packet Radio (BPQ network)
That sounds very interesting.? It would also solve a problem D-rats has about not being able to leave a message that everyone in the group could read when they got on.? You cannot send an email to all stations in D-Rats.? The emails have to be sent individually to each station.? Access to a BBS would solve that problem.? I too would be interested in seeing how that gets set up.
Glen - KG5CEN
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Re: D-Rats to Packet Radio (BPQ network)
I would also be interested?
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On Jan 13, 2022, at 4:53 PM, Ryan Collier <kb8pmy@...> wrote:
? Send me a message off the group. I don't want to go public with everything yet.
N8MFN Hamilton Wireless Radio Club
Hi Ryan,
I'd be interested in trying it. Thanks!
Jim
W7NFN
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On Thursday, January 13th, 2022 at 3:01 PM, Ryan Collier < kb8pmy@...> wrote:
Evening everyone,
I wanted to see if anyone was interested in trying out a new reflector the lets you have a private chat with the packet node. You will have access to everything. BBS, NODE, RMS and DX Cluster.
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Re: D-Rats to Packet Radio (BPQ network)
Send me a message off the group. I don't want to go public with everything yet.
N8MFN Hamilton Wireless Radio Club
Hi Ryan,
I'd be interested in trying it. Thanks!
Jim
W7NFN
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On Thursday, January 13th, 2022 at 3:01 PM, Ryan Collier < kb8pmy@...> wrote:
Evening everyone,
I wanted to see if anyone was interested in trying out a new reflector the lets you have a private chat with the packet node. You will have access to everything. BBS, NODE, RMS and DX Cluster.
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Re: D-Rats to Packet Radio (BPQ network)
Hi Ryan,
I'd be interested in trying it. Thanks!
Jim
W7NFN
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On Thursday, January 13th, 2022 at 3:01 PM, Ryan Collier <kb8pmy@...> wrote:
Evening everyone,
I wanted to see if anyone was interested in trying out a new reflector the lets you have a private chat with the packet node. You will have access to everything. BBS, NODE, RMS and DX Cluster.
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D-Rats to Packet Radio (BPQ network)
Evening everyone,
I wanted to see if anyone was interested in trying out a new reflector the lets you have a private chat with the packet node. You will have access to everything. BBS, NODE, RMS and DX Cluster.
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Re: Block User from Ratflector?
Glen,
Good points. However, not many people know about the filter, and the filter doesn't block the messages; it only transfers them to another chat tab. In addition, it pushes the problem off of a single point of correction (the server), to many points of correction (multiple clients). I know, in the event of a real emergency, if I were the owner/operator of the Ratflector, I would want to be able to instantly kick and/or block a misbehaving user from the system (but only if they were really creating a problem during an actual emergency).
Again, I would reiterate, that if one considers a QST to be annoying, that an email lookup be performed and if successful, to try to contact that ham via email first and correct it in a more gentle fashion. But in the event of an emergency, you may need something faster than email...
I am a Python programmer, and also a Ham. I'm trying to decide whether I want to spend the time to add those features to Ratflector software.
Also, even if those features are added, the operators don't have to use them.
73,
It is recommended, and is a simple matter, that if you do not want to see the weather reports and other QSTs from the only few stations trying to use D-Rats on a regular basis, you should set up a filter to keep the QSTs from appearing in the Main Chat window.??If you don’t like those, you will really get upset during hurricane season when I periodically post the National Weather Service Bulletins and Alerts for hurricanes that threaten the entire Gulf Coast of the U.S.??It is true that the stations don’t need to be broadcasting their weather or propagation conditions on multiple ratflectors.??That can be adjusted to send those out on just the local ratflector that he is using at the time.??I don’t need to know what the weather conditions are in Portugal when I live in the U.S.??Those QSTs can be limited to the current port or to All ports.??A simple request to change the frequency of the broadcasts or to limit it to the ratflector he uses locally would seem to be better than blacklisting him from the system for the sin of actually using the program.
QSTs are a feature of D-Rats that can serve a purpose and there are methods to block these features if you don’t want to see them.??I have the QST filter set myself.??D-Rats issues an alert tone and turns the filter’s label red when a QST comes in. It keeps it out of the Main Chat window for when I was acting as a Net Control Station but still lets me glance at them when I get a chance to see if there is anything of interest.??One QST lets folks know they can download a list of nets, and other Ratflectors.??Another may let you know that a station is acting as a Mail Drop and File Server that will allow you to leave messages for another user that is presently offline so you don’t need to leave the equipment running in the hope that he shows up soon.
Some of us are just happy that the systems are being used at all, as it appears they have been relegated to the backwaters of Ham systems.??D-Rats is capable of serving as a great tool for groups that have access to D-Star radios.??The system is more versatile than C4FM in its ability to transfer data and written message traffic from one station to another.??Its ability to show station positions on a map lets it act similar to APRS without having to run separate equipment.??However, there are very few of us who are actually trying to learn and use the system.??The old timers are used to doing everything via voice with a pencil and a pad of paper.??This is not good for modern use to Emcomm managers who are now leaning strongly to Winlink systems to provide access to forms and formal written traffic that can be transferred error free from one place to the other.??Now everyone is jumping on the DMR bandwagon because the radios are at present the least expensive.??They are great for talking as long as you have a repeater, or a hotspot and the Internet stays up.??Lose the Internet and everything drops back to local repeaters, lose the repeater and now you are reduced to simplex.??Even in simplex mode, D-Rats can still perform most of its functions, but the radios are among the most expensive.
Cordially,
Glen P. Strecker -KG5CEN
AEC for St. Tammany Parish, Louisiana
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Re: Unable to get into the Program
Even easier, right click on the
desktop, New, Folder.
On 1/11/22 12:33 PM, Todd wrote:
Go into the C drive, click on users and then one of
the folders should have a folder called desktop.?
What
folder? I had the same issue yesterday.
I was running 0.3.10beta10, but I had to delete the entire
folder and the hidden user data/ configuration. Then I loaded
0.3.9 and it works again.?
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Re: Block User from Ratflector?
Glen,
I totally agree with everything you mentioned. I have my QST set for 1 hour. But I am doing a lot of testing also. There is hardly ever any chat on the reflector.
So I wanted to expanded on this topic a little bit. I am hoping that this brings a little more traffic to the D-Rats side. I am working with John G8BPQ. We are working on a solution to bring the BPQ Node layout to D-Rats Chat. This will be on another port of my layout. But what you will be able to do is use the D-Star repeater to get on the BBS, DX Cluster, WWW Chat server or even use RMS. Besides using Packet Radio or internet. You will be able to use the data port on your D-Star radio connected to D-Rats and use all these functions.
This will be a plus to send messages or emails from a radio that is already in your pocket. The response is faster than packet and you can still hold a voice conversation while your data is running. This to me is a big plus. I can hear and use my D-Star repeater a lot farther than I can my packet setup.
My club and I are trying to find ways to get more activity on the D-Star network.
I can keep everyone informed on what is going on with the project.
N8MFN Hamilton Wireless Radio Club
It is recommended, and is a simple matter, that if you do not want to see the weather reports and other QSTs from the only few stations trying to use D-Rats on a regular basis, you should set up a filter to keep the QSTs from appearing in the Main Chat window.??If you don’t like those, you will really get upset during hurricane season when I periodically post the National Weather Service Bulletins and Alerts for hurricanes that threaten the entire Gulf Coast of the U.S.??It is true that the stations don’t need to be broadcasting their weather or propagation conditions on multiple ratflectors.??That can be adjusted to send those out on just the local ratflector that he is using at the time.??I don’t need to know what the weather conditions are in Portugal when I live in the U.S.??Those QSTs can be limited to the current port or to All ports.??A simple request to change the frequency of the broadcasts or to limit it to the ratflector he uses locally would seem to be better than blacklisting him from the system for the sin of actually using the program.
QSTs are a feature of D-Rats that can serve a purpose and there are methods to block these features if you don’t want to see them.??I have the QST filter set myself.??D-Rats issues an alert tone and turns the filter’s label red when a QST comes in. It keeps it out of the Main Chat window for when I was acting as a Net Control Station but still lets me glance at them when I get a chance to see if there is anything of interest.??One QST lets folks know they can download a list of nets, and other Ratflectors.??Another may let you know that a station is acting as a Mail Drop and File Server that will allow you to leave messages for another user that is presently offline so you don’t need to leave the equipment running in the hope that he shows up soon.
Some of us are just happy that the systems are being used at all, as it appears they have been relegated to the backwaters of Ham systems.??D-Rats is capable of serving as a great tool for groups that have access to D-Star radios.??The system is more versatile than C4FM in its ability to transfer data and written message traffic from one station to another.??Its ability to show station positions on a map lets it act similar to APRS without having to run separate equipment.??However, there are very few of us who are actually trying to learn and use the system.??The old timers are used to doing everything via voice with a pencil and a pad of paper.??This is not good for modern use to Emcomm managers who are now leaning strongly to Winlink systems to provide access to forms and formal written traffic that can be transferred error free from one place to the other.??Now everyone is jumping on the DMR bandwagon because the radios are at present the least expensive.??They are great for talking as long as you have a repeater, or a hotspot and the Internet stays up.??Lose the Internet and everything drops back to local repeaters, lose the repeater and now you are reduced to simplex.??Even in simplex mode, D-Rats can still perform most of its functions, but the radios are among the most expensive.
Cordially,
Glen P. Strecker -KG5CEN
AEC for St. Tammany Parish, Louisiana
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Re: Unable to get into the Program
Go into the C drive, click on users and then one of the folders should have a folder called desktop.?
What folder? I had the same issue yesterday.
I was running 0.3.10beta10, but I had to delete the entire folder and the hidden user data/ configuration. Then I loaded 0.3.9 and it works again.?
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Re: Unable to get into the Program
So my fix was to create a folder in the desktop folder called "D-RATS Shared"
It should be under the C drive under users, name of your folder, followed by Desktop, then go into that folder?and create the folder I mentioned above. It should work after that.
Let me know!
What folder? I had the same issue yesterday.
I was running 0.3.10beta10, but I had to delete the entire folder and the hidden user data/ configuration. Then I loaded 0.3.9 and it works again.?
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Re: Unable to get into the Program
What folder? I had the same issue yesterday.
I was running 0.3.10beta10, but I had to delete the entire folder and the hidden user data/ configuration. Then I loaded 0.3.9 and it works again.?
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Re: Unable to get into the Program
Cool!? 
Patrick (N3TSZ)
On Monday, January 10, 2022, 05:35:34 PM EST, Todd <kc7zie@...> wrote:
I figured it out...
For some reason - the folder kept getting deleted.
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Re: Unable to get into the Program
I figured it out...
For some reason - the folder kept getting deleted.
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Re: Block User from Ratflector?
Quick follow up on this.? I just received this email from CE1EDG, and he has disconnected.??
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Hi Dan
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Thank you for your information. I already change some parameters on the software and I believe the problem is corrected. Also I alert other stations on my area to do the same. I'm really sorry to disturbed you. Anyway if for some reason the problem appears again, please let me know. My best regards. 73 from José CT1EDG.
I thanked him for the quick attention, and invited him to join us for our Thursday evening net if he's willing to stay up that late! Turns out good, old-fashioned polite communication is all it took.? I still think it would be a nice feature to have for use in an emergency. I guess it could be as easy to switch ports or add passwords, but the ability to kick an offending station off during some kind of emergency use may be beneficial.
Thanks for the comments and sugestions...
73
Dan
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Re: Unable to get into the Program
click on the details button and post the contents. It may give us some insight to your issue.
Patrick (N3TSZ)
On Monday, January 10, 2022, 05:03:34 PM EST, Todd <kc7zie@...> wrote:
Hello All, Sorry if this has been posted but i am not having luck finding an answer to this issues I have, I am trying to open the d-rats program and I getting this error shown below - I do both ignore and ignore all but no luck....any thoughts?? 
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ljurc
Glen Strecker
Todd
Jim Brown
Dave Slotter, W3DJS
Patrick Connor
Dan Ozment