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Re: Unable to get into the Program
Go into the C drive, click on users and then one of the folders should have a folder called desktop.? On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 9:59 AM Douglas Pervine <douglas.pervine@...> wrote: What folder? I had the same issue yesterday. |
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Re: Unable to get into the Program
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Re: Block User from Ratflector?
Quick follow up on this.? I just received this email from CE1EDG, and he has disconnected.?? ? Hi Dan ? Thank you for your information. I already change some parameters on the software and I believe the problem is corrected. Also I alert other stations on my area to do the same. I'm really sorry to disturbed you. Anyway if for some reason the problem appears again, please let me know. My best regards. 73 from Jos¨¦ CT1EDG.
Dan ? |
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Re: Unable to get into the Program
click on the details button and post the contents. It may give us some insight to your issue. Patrick (N3TSZ)
On Monday, January 10, 2022, 05:03:34 PM EST, Todd <kc7zie@...> wrote:
Hello All,
Sorry if this has been posted but i am not having luck finding an answer to this issues I have, I am trying to open the d-rats program and I getting this error shown below - I do both ignore and ignore all but no luck....any thoughts?? |
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Re: Block User from Ratflector?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI have sent a polite and friendly cease and desist request to the
two Portuguese hams who were spamming our WA7DRE ratflector with
QST messages.? Fortunately, their contact info was available on
QRZ.? One did not respond, but did stop sending unwanted QST's.
The other kept spamming. I sent another email to that one today.? He responded immediately
to my message.? He politely apologized and stated that he has
already stopped the sending of QST messages.? He writes in perfect
English.? Problem solved. Randy - W4LKS On 1/9/2022 7:18 PM, Marius, YO2LOJ
wrote:
Could it be it is because that there was nobody doing d-rats development since 2010, and back then nobody was trying to kick people out without trying to solve issues first? |
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Re: Block User from Ratflector?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýMarius, Dave, All, MAruis, your point is well taken¡ there was a long pause in any active support and much of the data out on the web is either dated, incomplete, fragmented, or undecipherable. As John completes his work updating the code to Python3/GTK3 maybe we could revisit how to make it possible to do some of the things we want, without breaking the system? ? Hopefully the two Portuguese gentlemen will respond and make blocking un-needed, however I can see a special ¡°black hole filter window¡± might indeed be useful. On the other hand, I can see the issue from a newbee ¡°luser¡± point of view (fun to experiment and learn) and from a emergency management point of view. Since I am technical lead for the Baltimore County ACS/RACES/W3DHS group, I can speak to our needs; We would very much love to use D-RATS as we primarily use D-STAR through our local repeater and simplex on VHF and UHF. We do not use the associated reflector for drills at all. ? I can see how receiving unwanted announcements from Cascais Portugal, Keokuk IA , Forks WA, or anywhere out of the region would be a problem during exercises and emergencies (if the internet is working). Glen¡¯s use is a good example of regional support, but it rarely has a meaning to us on the east coast. While Glen¡¯s use is periodic and could be used to keep FEMA and other state EMA¡¯s informed, it is not constant nor is it irrelevant. Someone in Forks, WA might consider it otherwise. So maybe we could visit two initiatives when the time comes, improving the filters and advancing user education by updating and consolidating the user info that is available. John¡¯s updating effort could also go far to push adoption of more up to date code. ? Jack Spitznagel ¨C KD4IZ Science River LLC Biomedical Consulting Services ? ? ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dan Ozment
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2022 11:03 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [d-rats] Block User from Ratflector? ? Good point, KC9SIO.? And, it kind of leads to why I'm requesting a way to block the user. Based on other comments here, I have sent polite emails to both folks who are connecting and spamming our ratflector asking them to both stop sending us their QSTs.? If they respond, problem solved!? If they don't understand me or don't care, I've still got a problem.?? We typically use the ratflector as a "back channel" for communications during events. We actually used it for a "hospital move" one time where all the patients at our small town hospital were moved to a new hospital.? In that case, EMA specifically asked that we use DRATS to track and log the movement.? Of course, no PII or HIPAA sensitive data was used.? The communication was along the lines of "Patient A456892 loaded onto ambulance 123. Ambulance 123 enroute.? Ambulance 123 arrived at ___".? In the end we had a complete log of every patient moved with accurate time stamps.? Lots of ways to do that. EMA asked us to do it with D-RATS. |
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Re: Block User from Ratflector?
Good point, KC9SIO.? And, it kind of leads to why I'm requesting a way to block the user. Based on other comments here, I have sent polite emails to both folks who are connecting and spamming our ratflector asking them to both stop sending us their QSTs.? If they respond, problem solved!? If they don't understand me or don't care, I've still got a problem.?? We typically use the ratflector as a "back channel" for communications during events. We actually used it for a "hospital move" one time where all the patients at our small town hospital were moved to a new hospital.? In that case, EMA specifically asked that we use DRATS to track and log the movement.? Of course, no PII or HIPAA sensitive data was used.? The communication was along the lines of "Patient A456892 loaded onto ambulance 123. Ambulance 123 enroute.? Ambulance 123 arrived at ___".? In the end we had a complete log of every patient moved with accurate time stamps.? Lots of ways to do that. EMA asked us to do it with D-RATS. |
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Re: Block User from Ratflector?
It is recommended, and is a simple matter, that if you do not want to see the weather reports and other QSTs from the only few stations trying to use D-Rats on a regular basis, you should set up a filter to keep the QSTs from appearing in the Main Chat window.??If you don¡¯t like those, you will really get upset during hurricane season when I periodically post the National Weather Service Bulletins and Alerts for hurricanes that threaten the entire Gulf Coast of the U.S.??It is true that the stations don¡¯t need to be broadcasting their weather or propagation conditions on multiple ratflectors.??That can be adjusted to send those out on just the local ratflector that he is using at the time.??I don¡¯t need to know what the weather conditions are in Portugal when I live in the U.S.??Those QSTs can be limited to the current port or to All ports.??A simple request to change the frequency of the broadcasts or to limit it to the ratflector he uses locally would seem to be better than blacklisting him from the system for the sin of actually using the program.
QSTs are a feature of D-Rats that can serve a purpose and there are methods to block these features if you don¡¯t want to see them.??I have the QST filter set myself.??D-Rats issues an alert tone and turns the filter¡¯s label red when a QST comes in. It keeps it out of the Main Chat window for when I was acting as a Net Control Station but still lets me glance at them when I get a chance to see if there is anything of interest.??One QST lets folks know they can download a list of nets, and other Ratflectors.??Another may let you know that a station is acting as a Mail Drop and File Server that will allow you to leave messages for another user that is presently offline so you don¡¯t need to leave the equipment running in the hope that he shows up soon. Some of us are just happy that the systems are being used at all, as it appears they have been relegated to the backwaters of Ham systems.??D-Rats is capable of serving as a great tool for groups that have access to D-Star radios.??The system is more versatile than C4FM in its ability to transfer data and written message traffic from one station to another.??Its ability to show station positions on a map lets it act similar to APRS without having to run separate equipment.??However, there are very few of us who are actually trying to learn and use the system.??The old timers are used to doing everything via voice with a pencil and a pad of paper.??This is not good for modern use to Emcomm managers who are now leaning strongly to Winlink systems to provide access to forms and formal written traffic that can be transferred error free from one place to the other.??Now everyone is jumping on the DMR bandwagon because the radios are at present the least expensive.??They are great for talking as long as you have a repeater, or a hotspot and the Internet stays up.??Lose the Internet and everything drops back to local repeaters, lose the repeater and now you are reduced to simplex.??Even in simplex mode, D-Rats can still perform most of its functions, but the radios are among the most expensive. Cordially,
Glen P. Strecker -KG5CEN
AEC for St. Tammany Parish, Louisiana
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Re: Block User from Ratflector?
The problem to solve?is that I see callsigns only appear to get interrogated after connection if the auth_users flag is set... Meaning you have configured for passwords. This is probably not what you want. Seeing as the only time at the beginning of the connection the callsign is interrogated, I would probably rewrite the "auth_user" method to always pull callsigns and only check the password if the auth flag is enabled. You'd also have to modify the "auth_exchange" method to allow for usernames (callsigns) and not worry about passwords not being sent in this case. It's definitely doable -- I think this could work -- I don't see this breaking the server/client contract... On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 9:25 PM Dave Slotter, W3DJS via <slotter=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Block User from Ratflector?
There is Python source code for this program available to be modified... In the Python source code file, "d-rats_repeater.py", there is a class called "Repeater" and it has a method called "auth_user" which is where the username / password checking is done, but it would be a very simple matter to check against the callsigns (called usernames here) and block them from connecting in the first place. I'm surprised this was never implemented. But perhaps nobody became that annoying back then to require it? 73, On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 5:17 PM Dan Ozment <dan@...> wrote:
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Re: Block User from Ratflector?
I would advise against relying on Google Translate to be perfect. To amend the prior suggestion, I would suggest sending the message both in native English and then Translated Portuguese. On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 5:27 PM KC9SIO <kc9sio@...> wrote: Dan, be sure to send them this email in Portuguese, because they may not know English. You can do this by opening up Google Translate, and having the left side on English, and the right side on Portuguese. Once you have composed it, click on the Copy,? button, which is the first symbol on the bottom right of the "Translate To" field. Then, go to your email that you are composing to them, and right-click on it, and then click Paste, and then just send it. That's what I've been thinking about doing myself regarding these two. I just haven't gotten around to it. I hope this helps. |
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Re: Block User from Ratflector?
Dan, be sure to send them this email in Portuguese, because they may not know English. You can do this by opening up Google Translate, and having the left side on English, and the right side on Portuguese. Once you have composed it, click on the Copy,? button, which is the first symbol on the bottom right of the "Translate To" field. Then, go to your email that you are composing to them, and right-click on it, and then click Paste, and then just send it. That's what I've been thinking about doing myself regarding these two. I just haven't gotten around to it. I hope this helps.
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Re: Block User from Ratflector?
Thanks, Daryl.? I've got them listed in igooreregex as you described above.? I also included their call sign in the ignoreregex field.? Like this -?\[QST\] \[CQCQCQ\] CT1EBQ CT1EDG.? Then I created folders for QST, CQCQCQ, and each call sign. I just hate having to ask all of our local users to do that.? Wish I could get them to stop spamming my ratflector.? I will take Dave's suggestion and send them a polite email.? Let's see if that works. Also, thanks for the suggestion on adding a password.? I've wondered how that worked.? I've kicked around the idea of changing the port we listen on to something other than 9000. |
Todd
Patrick Connor
Dan Ozment
Randy-W4LKS
Jack Spitznagel (KD4IZ)
Glen Strecker
Dave Slotter, W3DJS
KC9SIO