Hi Daryl,
It has been a while! The original work was written in older
versions of Python 2 with libraries that are no longer supported.
There has been an enormous amount of work needed and much has been
done by John Malmberg, WB8TYW and Maurizio Andreotti IZ2LXI
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While in your "absence", D-RATS has undergone some major changes
- much of the v0.4 development code was written to run under Msys2
or MobaXterm (emulation application) in the Python 3 environment
(IIRC) so that the primary maintainers could continue work on
fixing the Python code and making things current.
Here is a quote from the github repository which has me a bit
confused on a brief reading. It is from
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Microsoft
Windows
The installation is now primarily done from inside the MobaXterm
application
using.
This generally requires installing the msys2 package
from
,
which is what is currently
used for testing.
Other alternatives Windows Subsystem for Linux with
a Linux installed or
Cygwin .
At the present time those
are not being tested. Windows Subsystem for linux may have
issues accessing
serial devices.
Since I last used the system there is now a version of Python 3
for 64 bit Win 11 that may or may not have the needed support.
Also for a while (maybe still), a separate piece of the code for
LZHUF was required that was critical for certain functions of
D-RATS to run. I don't know if that is still the case. So the
Python interpreter plus the LZHUF issue maybe where your attempt
to install D-RATS went south. (The old version did not need the
interpreter because it had been compiled to work in Windows).
I had been loading and testing John's new versions, then got
derailed by life demands. The old versions (v3) still will load
and run OK on my old 2015 Dell Windows 10 based desktop (which
just has been replaced by a Win 11 box). I have yet to install any
version of Python or D-RATS on the new computer, so you and I will
likely go on this journey together.?
I do think I have the new code running on my Win 11 laptop - but
it has been a while since I did much with it.
If I have the time (has been scarce lately) to install, I will. I
will share with you what the "secret sauce" steps that I discover
on the way. Hope that makes it easier.
Jack - KD4IZ
On 9/16/2024 12:28 PM, Daryl Stout
wrote:
I previously was running D-Rats 0.3.9 under Windows 10 32-bit
on a desktop and Windows 11 64-bit on a Lenovo Laptop...and it
still works on the desktop computer. I had to stop using the
Lenovo Laptop, as the screen started going bad...but I also
received an early Christmas/birthday present, with a new Windows
11 Pro Desktop, with 16 GB of RAM, and 1 TB of hard drive
space...which has made doing much of my ham radio nets much
easier, with the SharkRF OpenSpot 4 Pro.
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However, I tried to get D-Rats 0.3.9 to work on the new
computer, and it would not. Is there an additional file I need
to download to make it work?? I took a look at D-Rats 0.4.2, but
I wasn't sure what I needed to do to activate it, or get it
working.
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Any help would be appreciated.
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Daryl, N5VLZ
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I previously was running D-Rats 0.3.9 under Windows 10 32-bit on a desktop and Windows 11 64-bit on a Lenovo Laptop...and it still works on the desktop computer. I had to stop using the Lenovo Laptop, as the screen started going bad...but I also received an early Christmas/birthday present, with a new Windows 11 Pro Desktop, with 16 GB of RAM, and 1 TB of hard drive space...which has made doing much of my ham radio nets much easier, with the SharkRF OpenSpot 4 Pro.
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However, I tried to get D-Rats 0.3.9 to work on the new computer, and it would not. Is there an additional file I need to download to make it work?? I took a look at D-Rats 0.4.2, but I wasn't sure what I needed to do to activate it, or get it working.
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Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: Installing a RATFLECTOR on a Dplus Repeater
I got confused because I'm having trouble hitting WA7DRE's ratflector as well. Interesting you got such a close callsign.
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D-Rats reflector is part of the D-Rats install. It's a Python script
is where the most current version lives. You will need an updated Python3 and GTK3 installed. Instructions are on the GitHub page.
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Installing a RATFLECTOR on a Dplus Repeater
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I've been admin for two Dplus repeaters in Washington State since 03/2023. The repeaters are WA7FW and WA7DR and both at one time were configured to be ratflectors, but when I tried to connect to them, the repeaters did not respond. I tried connecting via the internet using the listed addresses for each repeater - wa7fw.ratflector.com and wa7dr.ratflector.com.?
I also tried via radio, but still no joy. I obtained the command to restart the d-rats repeater from a fellow admin and ran the command via SSH?"nohup d-rats_repeater -C &"
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The system responded with? "failed to run command d-rats_repeater - no such file or directory." So it appears that the ratflector is no longer configured on the repeaters.
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My question is where do I get the software and how do I install it on the two repeater servers? I have searched and searched on this io groups, on YouTube, and on the internet and found no help.?
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Can someone point me in the direction as to where I can get the software and how to install it??
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Thank you in advance.?
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v/r
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Perry - WB7NIL
FWARC.org WA7FW and WA7DR D-Star repeater Admin and REF035 Admin.
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On 8/27/2024 6:47 PM, John Primo wrote: I am downloaded Drats it downloads fine but when i go to open the
program I get an error message, when i go to click ignore, I still
cant get drats to run Downloaded from where? I have stopped attempting to build python eggs for releases for now as they are a bit of effort to maintain, and it is simpler to maintain a checkout of the D-rats repository on a system setup with the D-rats dependencies, and we do not have enough active volunteers create and test packages. What installation procedure did you use? D-Rats is a Linux Python program that requires a Linux emulation environment in Microsoft Windows. The only such known environments are Msys2, Cygwin, and MobaXterm (Cygwin). Of these MobaXterm seems to be the easiest to maintain. Microsoft Windows does not provide a complete Python runtime environment, and the GTK project required by D-Rats does not provide a working build procedure for building it using Microsoft Compilers. This is the current installation procedure on Microsoft Windows: Currently this installation procedure appears to work from Microsoft Windows 7 and later versions, although support for versions of Microsoft Windows earlier than Windows-10 is being very rapidly dropped by the libraries that D-Rats depends on for running. Note that the 0.3.9 and older version of D-rats are not getting any bug fixes and has a known bug in that it will drop some messages received over the radio. That bug may show up more on newer faster computers. The "Default" installation of Microsoft Windows 10/11 now tries really hard to get you to create a Microsoft account which sets up your user directory differently than what older versions of D-Rats expects so on those systems, Older D-Rats will fail to start. I am showing that as fixed in the current 0.40 repository. Until we get a volunteer that can come up with a better Windows installation package than installing and running from inside MobaXterm, that is what we have. 73, -John wb8tyw@...
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Is there a folder named ‘D-RATS Shared’ on you desktop??? disable?desktop back up and then try to install again…you will see the?D-RATS Shared folder on the desk top and you should be good to go
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On Aug 28, 2024, at 4:53?PM, Doug Papciak via groups.io <dpapciak@...> wrote:
John,
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I had the same experience. For background, I am running Windows 11. I downloaded the stable production version, Legacy for PC. I got the same error message. On clicking the Debug Log button, it showed a JSON add-in library error. I think this is when a Python program uses an include statement for a library that is not on my PC. I am not sure how to add that library. I cannot reproduce that error at the moment because I installed the Beta over it.?
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I then tried the beta 0.3.9x64 version to see if that had a similar issue with Beautifulsoup.py.? I tried ignoring the error but the application does not launch. I do not have a D-STAR capable radio so the app is my only alternative at the moment.
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Any suggestions?
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THANK YOU, 73 Doug/KI4VDU
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0.3.9x64 error below:
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Mainapp ? : Enabled debug log for Win32 systems
Version : headers={'User-Agent': 'd-rats/0.3.9 '}
C:\Users\dpapc\Dropbox\!Radio\d-rats-0.3.9_win64\D-Rats-0.3.9_64\library.zip\BeautifulSoup.py:114: UserWarning: You are using a very old release of Beautiful Soup, last updated in 2011. If you installed the 'beautifulsoup' package through pip, you should know the 'beautifulsoup' package name is about to be reclaimed by a more recent version of Beautiful Soup which is incompatible with this version.
This will happen at some point after January 1, 2021.
If you just started this project, this is easy to fix. Install the 'beautifulsoup4' package instead of 'beautifulsoup' and start using Beautiful Soup 4.
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John,
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I had the same experience. For background, I am running Windows 11. I downloaded the stable production version, Legacy for PC. I got the same error message. On clicking the Debug Log button, it showed a JSON add-in library error. I think this is when a Python program uses an include statement for a library that is not on my PC. I am not sure how to add that library. I cannot reproduce that error at the moment because I installed the Beta over it.?
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I then tried the beta 0.3.9x64 version to see if that had a similar issue with Beautifulsoup.py.? I tried ignoring the error but the application does not launch. I do not have a D-STAR capable radio so the app is my only alternative at the moment.
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Any suggestions?
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THANK YOU, 73 Doug/KI4VDU
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0.3.9x64 error below:
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Mainapp ? : Enabled debug log for Win32 systems
Version : headers={'User-Agent': 'd-rats/0.3.9 '}
C:\Users\dpapc\Dropbox\!Radio\d-rats-0.3.9_win64\D-Rats-0.3.9_64\library.zip\BeautifulSoup.py:114: UserWarning: You are using a very old release of Beautiful Soup, last updated in 2011. If you installed the 'beautifulsoup' package through pip, you should know the 'beautifulsoup' package name is about to be reclaimed by a more recent version of Beautiful Soup which is incompatible with this version.
This will happen at some point after January 1, 2021.
If you just started this project, this is easy to fix. Install the 'beautifulsoup4' package instead of 'beautifulsoup' and start using Beautiful Soup 4.
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I am downloaded Drats it downloads fine but when i go to open the program I get an error message, when i go to click ignore, I still cant get drats to run
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Re: That ol' Blue DVDongle by InternetLabs...
Sorry Patrick. I meant no disrespect to you or the group. I had a problem with a D-Star DVDongle and the DVDongle group has apparently zero activity, and I was looking for a way to get any info at all on a D-Star-related product. So, I tried this group hoping to find some kind soles with some solid info (which I did). Anyway, consider me gone!
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Re: That ol' Blue DVDongle by InternetLabs...
This thread is off-topic. Please move this discussion to another forum.
Patrick (N3TSZ)
On Monday, July 29, 2024 at 09:12:06 AM EDT, Ken Winograd <subscriptions@...> wrote:
Just FYI, I have some progress to report but still a problem. My problem surfing to dvdongle.com is resolved. It was a problem involving my Firefox settings and an extension that makes everything HTTPS when it can. No need to go into details, but now, I can surf to dvdongle.com without problems.
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I reinstalled the required drivers for the Mac as suggested, re-plugged in the DVDongle itself (it's pulsating green as it should) and I was able to download v2.1 of the DVTools (thanks for the link to it). But, as before with my v2.0 version of DVTools, the program still crashes before I even get to the DVTools main window. So, I still have some figuring to do...
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Re: That ol' Blue DVDongle by InternetLabs...
Just FYI, I have some progress to report but still a problem. My problem surfing to dvdongle.com is resolved. It was a problem involving my Firefox settings and an extension that makes everything HTTPS when it can. No need to go into details, but now, I can surf to dvdongle.com without problems.
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I reinstalled the required drivers for the Mac as suggested, re-plugged in the DVDongle itself (it's pulsating green as it should) and I was able to download v2.1 of the DVTools (thanks for the link to it). But, as before with my v2.0 version of DVTools, the program still crashes before I even get to the DVTools main window. So, I still have some figuring to do...
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Re: That ol' Blue DVDongle by InternetLabs...
Hi Paul and John...
Thanks so much for getting back to me, very much appreciated.
Unfortunately, I'm still having problems.
I tried to re-install the drivers as you've suggested (which said it was successful when I did it), re-plugged in the DVDongle, but still get a crash before the program even fully opens.
The DVTool 2.1 (and I'm delighted that there's a version above the 2.0 that I originally had) seems to be a ".exe" for PC only. Maybe they never made a 2.1 update for the Mac?
But, I think I have another problem that needs to be fixed. I originally posted here because the DVDongle software crashed AND I couldn't get to their website. It seemed to be gone. If I try to surf to dvdongle.com <> on my Mac, it either says page not found (if I'm looking to download software using the link you included) or it connects me to some beauty supply company website instead if I just surf to dvdongle.com!!! What!!! That makes no sense, I know. If instead I surf to dvdongle.com <> on my iPad, I get to the dvdongle site without a problem. So, it appears I have something wrong with my Mac, or Comcast's name server or something. I'll work on that in the days ahead.
Anyway, thank you both again...it's nice to know that the dvdongle site is actually still available, and that apparently the unit can still work...but just not here, at least not yet.
If I discover anything, I'll certainly let you guys know.
Regards,
Ken N1NEG
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On Jul 28, 2024, at 5:07?PM, John M Wysocki <zl2tws@...> wrote:
Hi Ken
I use the DV Dongle a lot, along with the DV3K that came after it.
I only have Windows 7 and 10 but DVTool 2.1 works perfectly on both
and the devices are very reliable.
Install FTDI drivers from prior to connecting the DVDongle.
Once installed, plug in the DV Dongle and download the DVTool distribution at
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double click the file to open it, and drag DVTool to your Desktop.
You can then proceed to the Using the DV Dongle page listed at the top of this page.
I'm always on the look out for surplus dongles to pass onto new users.
A little unknown fact that Robin AA4RC passed onto me is that the
Blue dongle uses the AMBE2020 chip and the DV3K uses the AMBE3000.
AMBE2020 displays BER in real time whereas the DV3K doesn't.
AMBE removed it from the 3000 as Internet Labs had been using that feature.
I use the blue dongle to monitor repeater performance by transmitting a weak
test signal into the repeater while Blue dongle connected to that gateway repeater.
BER can be monitored in real time watching for bursts of QRM, antenna crackle,
duplexer crackle that you would have previously heard if the repeater was FM.
I hope this information helps and thanks for posting your message as it
might uncover a few more of these excellent Internet labs devices.
73 and good DV. John ZL2TWS
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Re: That ol' Blue DVDongle by InternetLabs...
Hi Ken
I use the DV Dongle a lot, along with the DV3K that came after it. I only have Windows 7 and 10 but DVTool 2.1 works perfectly on both and?the devices are very reliable.
Install FTDI drivers from prior to connecting the DVDongle.? Once installed, plug in the DV Dongle and download the DVTool distribution at , double click the file to open it, and drag DVTool to your Desktop.? You can then proceed to the Using the DV Dongle page listed at the top of this page.
I'm always on the look out for surplus dongles to pass onto new users. A little unknown fact that Robin AA4RC passed onto me is that the Blue dongle uses the AMBE2020 chip and the DV3K uses the AMBE3000. AMBE2020 displays BER in real time whereas the DV3K doesn't. AMBE?removed it from the 3000 as Internet Labs had been using that feature.
I use the blue dongle to monitor repeater performance by transmitting a weak test signal into the repeater while Blue dongle connected to that gateway repeater. BER can be monitored in real time watching for bursts of QRM, antenna crackle, duplexer crackle that you would have previously heard if the repeater was FM.
I hope this information helps and thanks for posting your message as it might uncover a few more of these excellent Internet labs devices.
73 and good DV. John ZL2TWS
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Re: That ol' Blue DVDongle by InternetLabs...
I don't have this device but did some internet searches give this a try:
Apr 2, 2024 — DVTool version 2.0 (DVTool.exe) free download, latest version 2.1, The DV Dongle connects to your PC or Apple Mac via a USB port and?...
Rating: 4.8 · ? 5 votes · ? Free · ? Windows · ? Utilities/Tools
Hope this helps.
73
On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 11:27?AM Ken Winograd via <subscriptions= [email protected]> wrote: Hi... I purchased a D-Star DVDongle about a decade ago (that's the blue USB device by InternetLabs), and honestly haven't used it in years. I just tried to use it (on my current Mac), and it crashes immediately before its window even comes up. I tried to visit the manufacturer's site, and it is no longer available, and I can't find any updated software for it anywhere. My guess is, of course, the company is out of business and the product is no longer supported, but I don't know any of this for a fact. Anyway, I'm hoping someone might have some info on the product. Is it dead? Any hope of finding updated software for it that will work on a Mac? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks! Ken
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-- “One flag, one land, one heart, one hand, one nation evermore.”?Oliver Wendell Holmes? Paul Frey K9PTF (Really Old Guy With A Beard)
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That ol' Blue DVDongle by InternetLabs...
Hi... I purchased a D-Star DVDongle about a decade ago (that's the blue USB device by InternetLabs), and honestly haven't used it in years. I just tried to use it (on my current Mac), and it crashes immediately before its window even comes up. I tried to visit the manufacturer's site, and it is no longer available, and I can't find any updated software for it anywhere. My guess is, of course, the company is out of business and the product is no longer supported, but I don't know any of this for a fact. Anyway, I'm hoping someone might have some info on the product. Is it dead? Any hope of finding updated software for it that will work on a Mac? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks! Ken
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Re: Installing D-Rats on Windows 11
On 7/5/2024 1:19 PM, Brad Coston / KJ7GDN wrote: I just installed D-RATS for the first time. Am I going to regret
putting msys64 under C:\Program Files? In the startup window I see
"fatal: cannot change to 'C:/Program': No such file or directory,
which makes me worry. Otherwise it seems like it is working. If you want to use a path with a space in it, you need to enclose it in double quotes any place you reference. I have not tried installing msys2 in a directory with spaces in it. The only thing I can think of that needs to know the exact path is if you are using the option that allows creating an shortcut. I have switched to doing testing of D-Rats under MobaXterm as Msys2 no longer supports my Windows 7 system. Regards, -John wb8tyw@...
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Re: Installing D-Rats on Windows 11
I just installed D-RATS for the first time. Am I going to regret putting msys64 under C:\Program Files? In the startup window I see "fatal: cannot change to 'C:/Program': No such file or directory," which makes me worry. Otherwise it seems like it is working.?
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Installing D-Rats on Windows 11
Hello All,
I was having trouble installing D-Rats on Windows 11 because the program could not create the shared folder.? This is because the Desktop is being backed up to OneDrive.? After a long search I found this video on YouTube (The Comms Channel) which provided the
information I needed to solve this problem.? It's so simple.
73,
Alan - KA4LTC
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Re: DSTAR InfoCon at Hamvention
Many have asked but we don't have the facilities to record the class. There were several past classes recorded by others and posted on the dstarinfo.com site. We will post the PowerPoint slides to dstarinfo.com after the class.
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John WB4QDX
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On Behalf Of James Holtzman via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 2:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [d-rats] DSTAR InfoCon at Hamvention
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For us who cannot attend, would be great if the event is recorded so we could view later.? ?Jim.? K6nra
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On May 7, 2024 7:36 AM, John WB4QDX <jdavis@...> wrote:
Limited seats are still available for D-STAR InfoCon at Dayton Hamvention for 2024
The class?provides
an introduction to D-STAR for new users and more advanced topics for more experienced D-STAR users. The class will be held at the Drury Inn Ballroom at 6616 Miller Lane in the heart of hotel row in Dayton. The 3-hour class will be held on Friday, May 17th
beginning at 8:00am local time. This year’s topics will include getting on-the-air with D-STAR, how to connect around the world, programming for all models of D-STAR radios and hotspots, using DR Mode, easy updating your radio memories and using hotspots and
other D-STAR devices.
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Basics of digital radio and D-STAR
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Getting started with your D-STAR radio
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The D-STAR user registration process explained
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Programming your D-STAR radios and Hotspots
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Linking to repeaters and reflectors
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Helpful hints and tips to get the most from D-STAR
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Sending pictures, D-STAR Data (D-RATS) and DD Mode
Registration and $25 payment are required for the class at?. An Icom ID-52A handheld D-STAR radio will be given away to one lucky student during the class.
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Also plan to attend the D-STAR Friday Night event at the same location on Friday, May 17th beginning at 6:30. Admission is free, enjoy light snacks,
speakers, demos and an Icom ID-52A handheld radio to be given away.
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Re: DSTAR InfoCon at Hamvention
For us who cannot attend, would be great if the event is recorded so we could view later.? ?Jim.? K6nra
On May 7, 2024 7:36 AM, John WB4QDX <jdavis@...> wrote:
Limited seats are still available for D-STAR InfoCon at Dayton Hamvention for 2024
The class?provides
an introduction to D-STAR for new users and more advanced topics for more experienced D-STAR users. The class will be held at the Drury Inn Ballroom at 6616 Miller Lane in the heart of hotel row in Dayton. The 3-hour class will be held on Friday, May 17th
beginning at 8:00am local time. This year’s topics will include getting on-the-air with D-STAR, how to connect around the world, programming for all models of D-STAR radios and hotspots, using DR Mode, easy updating your radio memories and using hotspots and
other D-STAR devices.
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Basics of digital radio and D-STAR
-
Getting started with your D-STAR radio
-
The D-STAR user registration process explained
-
Programming your D-STAR radios and Hotspots
-
Linking to repeaters and reflectors
-
Helpful hints and tips to get the most from D-STAR
-
Sending pictures, D-STAR Data (D-RATS) and DD Mode
Registration and $25 payment are required for the class at?. An Icom ID-52A handheld D-STAR radio will be given away to one lucky student during the class.
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Also plan to attend the D-STAR Friday Night event at the same location on Friday, May 17th beginning at 6:30. Admission is free, enjoy
light snacks, speakers, demos and an Icom ID-52A handheld radio to be given away.
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Jack Spitznagel (KD4IZ)
Daryl Stout
Kris Gainsforth - KB0STG
Perry WB7NIL
Patrick Connor
John M Wysocki
Brad Coston / KJ7GDN
Alan