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Using Cell phone as an RFID tag?


 

Interested in making a phone that uses wifi into an RFID tag such that the crestron processor can poll IP addresses on the network and determine if myself or my wife is home based on whether or not our phones are connected to the in house wifi.

Is it possible? has anyone done it? I imagine if it was done, it was probably through simpl+??


Anthony Desimone
 

Console command just like you would from the command line:

ping <IP Address>

--- In Crestron@..., "Scott" <bluegauges@...> wrote:

Interested in making a phone that uses wifi into an RFID tag such that the crestron processor can poll IP addresses on the network and determine if myself or my wife is home based on whether or not our phones are connected to the in house wifi.

Is it possible? has anyone done it? I imagine if it was done, it was probably through simpl+??


 

You could ping an IP address using the console symbol, BUT it locks up the
entire program while it's waiting to time out. Not recommended, especially
if there's any likelihood that the device is going to be offline during
regular use. I generally only use it to detect some sort of catastrophic
failure that results in power-cycling the connected device to bring it back
-- not something that's supposed to happen on a regular basis. If your
phone has any open ports, you might be able to find it using a TCP
connection. Otherwise I think you'd need to run the ping on a PC, or some
other device that can do more than one thing at once (maybe a stray QM-RMC?)

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Scott <bluegauges@...> wrote:

**


Interested in making a phone that uses wifi into an RFID tag such that the
crestron processor can poll IP addresses on the network and determine if
myself or my wife is home based on whether or not our phones are connected
to the in house wifi.

Is it possible? has anyone done it? I imagine if it was done, it was
probably through simpl+??




--
Jeremy Weatherford


Bart Podkowka
 

Possible with ubiquiti UniFi wifi system.
Not sure if standard ap would give you an option to get the necessary data.
Also, you could use dd-wrt router and poll it for dhcp leases to match your desired mac address.

Saludos,
Regards,
mit freundlichen Gren,

Bart J. Podkowka
CISoftware Mallorca

Tel. 971570971 Mov. 616273563

From: Scott <bluegauges@...<mailto:bluegauges@...>>
Reply-To: "Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron@...>" <Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron@...>>
Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 5:43 AM
To: "Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron@...>" <Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron@...>>
Subject: [Crestron] Using Cell phone as an RFID tag?



Interested in making a phone that uses wifi into an RFID tag such that the crestron processor can poll IP addresses on the network and determine if myself or my wife is home based on whether or not our phones are connected to the in house wifi.

Is it possible? has anyone done it? I imagine if it was done, it was probably through simpl+??





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Not sure how soon you need this but Crestron showed an NFC based control at
CEDIA.
Believe it was called 'air connect'. It was rather cool.
Uses standard RFID tags and a version of Crestron mobile that talks to the
phone's NFC chip.
How soon that Crestron mobile version will be available remains to be
seen...

Tray

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-----Original Message-----
From: Bart Podkowka
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 5:45 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Using Cell phone as an RFID tag?

Possible with ubiquiti UniFi wifi system.
Not sure if standard ap would give you an option to get the necessary data.
Also, you could use dd-wrt router and poll it for dhcp leases to match your
desired mac address.

Saludos,
Regards,
mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Bart J. Podkowka
CISoftware Mallorca

Tel. 971570971 Mov. 616273563

From: Scott <bluegauges@...<mailto:bluegauges@...>>
Reply-To: "Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron@...>" <Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron@...>>
Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 5:43 AM
To: "Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron@...>"
<Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron@...>>
Subject: [Crestron] Using Cell phone as an RFID tag?



Interested in making a phone that uses wifi into an RFID tag such that the
crestron processor can poll IP addresses on the network and determine if
myself or my wife is home based on whether or not our phones are connected
to the in house wifi.

Is it possible? has anyone done it? I imagine if it was done, it was
probably through simpl+??





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Is this where multiple programs in a 3-series would be beneficial? Does a ping lock up the program, or the processor? Could you dedicate a program just to tracking IPs once every 15 seconds, then EISC the status back to your main program? If not, a dedicated QM-RMC would do the job nicely.

--- In Crestron@..., Jeremy Weatherford <jweather@...> wrote:

You could ping an IP address using the console symbol, BUT it locks up the
entire program while it's waiting to time out. Not recommended, especially
if there's any likelihood that the device is going to be offline during
regular use. I generally only use it to detect some sort of catastrophic
failure that results in power-cycling the connected device to bring it back
-- not something that's supposed to happen on a regular basis. If your
phone has any open ports, you might be able to find it using a TCP
connection. Otherwise I think you'd need to run the ping on a PC, or some
other device that can do more than one thing at once (maybe a stray QM-RMC?)

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Scott <bluegauges@...> wrote:

**


Interested in making a phone that uses wifi into an RFID tag such that the
crestron processor can poll IP addresses on the network and determine if
myself or my wife is home based on whether or not our phones are connected
to the in house wifi.

Is it possible? has anyone done it? I imagine if it was done, it was
probably through simpl+??




--
Jeremy Weatherford


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Haven't tried it on 3-series yet, sorry.

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:21 PM, floyd1212 <floyd1212@...> wrote:

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Is this where multiple programs in a 3-series would be beneficial? Does a
ping lock up the program, or the processor? Could you dedicate a program
just to tracking IPs once every 15 seconds, then EISC the status back to
your main program? If not, a dedicated QM-RMC would do the job nicely.


--- In Crestron@..., Jeremy Weatherford <jweather@...> wrote:

You could ping an IP address using the console symbol, BUT it locks up
the
entire program while it's waiting to time out. Not recommended,
especially
if there's any likelihood that the device is going to be offline during
regular use. I generally only use it to detect some sort of catastrophic
failure that results in power-cycling the connected device to bring it
back
-- not something that's supposed to happen on a regular basis. If your
phone has any open ports, you might be able to find it using a TCP
connection. Otherwise I think you'd need to run the ping on a PC, or some
other device that can do more than one thing at once (maybe a stray
QM-RMC?)

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Scott <bluegauges@...> wrote:

**


Interested in making a phone that uses wifi into an RFID tag such that
the
crestron processor can poll IP addresses on the network and determine
if
myself or my wife is home based on whether or not our phones are
connected
to the in house wifi.

Is it possible? has anyone done it? I imagine if it was done, it was
probably through simpl+??




--
Jeremy Weatherford


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--
Jeremy Weatherford


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Anthony Desimone
 

I forgot about that... such a bad design...

--- In Crestron@..., Jeremy Weatherford <jweather@...> wrote:

You could ping an IP address using the console symbol, BUT it locks up the
entire program while it's waiting to time out. Not recommended, especially
if there's any likelihood that the device is going to be offline during
regular use. I generally only use it to detect some sort of catastrophic
failure that results in power-cycling the connected device to bring it back
-- not something that's supposed to happen on a regular basis. If your
phone has any open ports, you might be able to find it using a TCP
connection. Otherwise I think you'd need to run the ping on a PC, or some
other device that can do more than one thing at once (maybe a stray QM-RMC?)

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Scott <bluegauges@...> wrote:

**


Interested in making a phone that uses wifi into an RFID tag such that the
crestron processor can poll IP addresses on the network and determine if
myself or my wife is home based on whether or not our phones are connected
to the in house wifi.

Is it possible? has anyone done it? I imagine if it was done, it was
probably through simpl+??




--
Jeremy Weatherford


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Is there documentation on how to poll a dd-wrt router?

--- In Crestron@..., Bart Podkowka <bart@...> wrote:

Possible with ubiquiti UniFi wifi system.
Not sure if standard ap would give you an option to get the necessary data.
Also, you could use dd-wrt router and poll it for dhcp leases to match your desired mac address.

Saludos,
Regards,
mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Bart J. Podkowka
CISoftware Mallorca

Tel. 971570971 Mov. 616273563

From: Scott <bluegauges@...<mailto:bluegauges@...>>
Reply-To: "Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron@...>" <Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron@...>>
Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 5:43 AM
To: "Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron@...>" <Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron@...>>
Subject: [Crestron] Using Cell phone as an RFID tag?



Interested in making a phone that uses wifi into an RFID tag such that the crestron processor can poll IP addresses on the network and determine if myself or my wife is home based on whether or not our phones are connected to the in house wifi.

Is it possible? has anyone done it? I imagine if it was done, it was probably through simpl+??





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Use a Cisco or HP managed switch and poll it for the MAC associated with
the phones. When it is connected to the port of your WiFi, you are home.

On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Ken Brunner <kenbrunner69@...> wrote:

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Is there documentation on how to poll a dd-wrt router?


--- In Crestron@..., Bart Podkowka <bart@...> wrote:

Possible with ubiquiti UniFi wifi system.
Not sure if standard ap would give you an option to get the necessary
data.
Also, you could use dd-wrt router and poll it for dhcp leases to match
your desired mac address.

Saludos,
Regards,
mit freundlichen Gren,

Bart J. Podkowka
CISoftware Mallorca

Tel. 971570971 Mov. 616273563

From: Scott <bluegauges@...<mailto:bluegauges@...>>
Reply-To: "Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron@...>" <
Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron@...>>
Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 5:43 AM
To: "Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron@...>" <
Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron@...>>
Subject: [Crestron] Using Cell phone as an RFID tag?



Interested in making a phone that uses wifi into an RFID tag such that
the crestron processor can poll IP addresses on the network and determine
if myself or my wife is home based on whether or not our phones are
connected to the in house wifi.

Is it possible? has anyone done it? I imagine if it was done, it was
probably through simpl+??








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Bart Podkowka
 

Ken,

It's better to run a script on the router to inform you when desired Mac address connects or disconnects - faster reaction time and easier for the processor.

On Sep 19, 2012, at 4:13 PM, "Ken Brunner" <kenbrunner69@...<mailto:kenbrunner69@...>> wrote:



Is there documentation on how to poll a dd-wrt router?

--- In Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>, Bart Podkowka <bart@...> wrote:

Possible with ubiquiti UniFi wifi system.
Not sure if standard ap would give you an option to get the necessary data.
Also, you could use dd-wrt router and poll it for dhcp leases to match your desired mac address.

Saludos,
Regards,
mit freundlichen Gren,

Bart J. Podkowka
CISoftware Mallorca

Tel. 971570971 Mov. 616273563

From: Scott <bluegauges@...<mailto:bluegauges@...>>
Reply-To: "Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>>" <Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>>>
Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 5:43 AM
To: "Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>>" <Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>>>
Subject: [Crestron] Using Cell phone as an RFID tag?



Interested in making a phone that uses wifi into an RFID tag such that the crestron processor can poll IP addresses on the network and determine if myself or my wife is home based on whether or not our phones are connected to the in house wifi.

Is it possible? has anyone done it? I imagine if it was done, it was probably through simpl+??





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John Moore
 

Is there a way to have crestron send a ping and monitor the result? If so, you could set your cell phone's mac addresses in your router as static dhcp, (so they always pull the same IP when they connect) and then send out a ping at an interval like 60 seconds or 5 minutes or something... Just a thought... I am also interested in doing this. I want to use it to auto-disarm my alarm and unlock my door on arrival home eventually.


________________________________
From: Bart Podkowka <bart@...>
To: "<Crestron@...>" <Crestron@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: Using Cell phone as an RFID tag?

Ken,

It's better to run a script on the router to inform you when desired Mac address connects or disconnects - faster reaction time and easier for the processor.
On Sep 19, 2012, at 4:13 PM, "Ken Brunner" <kenbrunner69@...<mailto:kenbrunner69@...>> wrote:



Is there documentation on how to poll a dd-wrt router?

--- In Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>, Bart Podkowka <bart@...> wrote:

Possible with ubiquiti UniFi wifi system.
Not sure if standard ap would give you an option to get the necessary data.
Also, you could use dd-wrt router and poll it for dhcp leases to match your desired mac address.

Saludos,
Regards,
mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Bart J. Podkowka
CISoftware Mallorca

Tel. 971570971 Mov. 616273563

From: Scott <bluegauges@...<mailto:bluegauges@...>>
Reply-To: "Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>>" <Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>>>
Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 5:43 AM
To: "Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>>" <Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>>>
Subject: [Crestron] Using Cell phone as an RFID tag?



Interested in making a phone that uses wifi into an RFID tag such that the crestron processor can poll IP addresses on the network and determine if myself or my wife is home based on whether or not our phones are connected to the in house wifi.

Is it possible? has anyone done it? I imagine if it was done, it was probably through simpl+??





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------------------------------------



Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
Yahoo! Groups Links



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You probably want to read this thread's history.

Yes, you can ping from Crestron, but it's not a good thing to do (as the processor pauses while the ping completes).

Oliver Hall