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Hi Guys,

I am having a play with our campuses first TPMC-4SMFD and have gotten stuck on the feedback for the LED hardbuttons. I have limited experience with Crestron touch panels as all we have on campus TPSG-TPI's with different manufacturer touch panels so any help would be gladly appreciated.

The result I am after is to get the LED hardbuttons to illuminate individually dependant on feedback. Currently all i'm getting is all hard buttons illuminated constantly whilst the panel is awake :(.
I presume this can be done as it mentions in a crestron document that the buttons can operate individually or globally. However I cannot find where this is configured.

Additionally I have not made this a core-3ui project as I need to keep a similar look to our existing user interfaces. Does it need to be a core-3ui project to get the outcome I want?

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

Cheers,

Ihaia

The TPMC-4SM (and TPCS-4SM, not sure about the "D" version, though) do via the System3 Reserved Joins device extender with an analog value for each button (0 - off, 1 - green, 2 - red, IIRC)

Beware, though, I'm not sure why but changing the backlight color seems to be a particularly intensive task, especially on the TPCS. Depending on what else the touchpanel is doing at the moment it can range from "slight lag" to "OMG, it's not working! <beat> Oh, wait, there it goes!"

Needless to say, I have not found acceptable results with trying to use the backlight color as a "Yes, you pressed me!" indication. I have, however, in a few projects used it to indicate things like audio and video mute status. But again, be ware of the hardware limitations: I generally prefer to make mute buttons "blink" (driven by a common 0.5s/0.5s OSC) so they jump out at the user, this does not work well on the TP**-4SM family.

On the TPMC-4SM doing this tends to get the panel farther and farther behind so that after a few seconds the panel is so far behind that the observed blink rate is more like 1.0s/1.0s -- and the worst part is that it queues them up, so the button will continue to blink well after it's no longer being told to blink by the program.

So, in other words, don't try changing the color too frequently :)

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 | F: 440.449.1106 | I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Neil Dorin
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 1:32 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] TPMC-4SMFD hard button feedback

IIRC the TPMC-4SM does not support individual led feedback for hard buttons. You can select green or red as the backlight colour and then turn the whole backlight on/off.

-Neil Dorin

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:50 PM, "ihaia09" <ihaia@...> wrote:

Hi Guys,

I am having a play with our campuses first TPMC-4SMFD and have gotten stuck on the feedback for the LED hardbuttons. I have limited experience with Crestron touch panels as all we have on campus TPSG-TPI's with different manufacturer touch panels so any help would be gladly appreciated.

The result I am after is to get the LED hardbuttons to illuminate individually dependant on feedback. Currently all i'm getting is all hard buttons illuminated constantly whilst the panel is awake :(.
I presume this can be done as it mentions in a crestron document that the buttons can operate individually or globally. However I cannot find where this is configured.

Additionally I have not made this a core-3ui project as I need to keep a similar look to our existing user interfaces. Does it need to be a core-3ui project to get the outcome I want?

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

Cheers,

Ihaia

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Thanks guys that's some really helpful info J. I never knew about the
device extender option so for me it's a great discovery.

Additionally it's good to hear about your experiences with the TPCS-4
series. I shall keep all of this in mind while going to try it out.



Cheers,



Ihaia





*From:* Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] *On
Behalf Of *Chip
*Sent:* Tuesday, 18 September 2012 3:41 a.m.
*To:* Crestron@...
*Subject:* [Crestron] Re: TPMC-4SMFD hard button feedback






I can concur 1000% with Lincoln with regards to the TPCS-4. Same "lags
sometimes" when doing the most simplistic attempts at lighting buttons.
(Whoda thunk that???)

Likewise, yes - you can access the "multi state" buttons individually
through analogs on said device extender...

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:

The TPMC-4SM (and TPCS-4SM, not sure about the "D" version, though)
do

via the System3 Reserved Joins device extender with an analog value
for each button (0 - off, 1 - green, 2 - red, IIRC)

Beware, though, I'm not sure why but changing the backlight color
seems

to be a particularly intensive task, especially on the TPCS. Depending
on what else the touchpanel is doing at the moment it can range from
"slight lag" to "OMG, it's not working! <beat> Oh, wait, there it goes!"

Needless to say, I have not found acceptable results with trying to
use

the backlight color as a "Yes, you pressed me!" indication. I have,
however, in a few projects used it to indicate things like audio and
video mute status. But again, be ware of the hardware limitations: I
generally prefer to make mute buttons "blink" (driven by a common
0.5s/0.5s OSC) so they jump out at the user, this does not work well on

On the TPMC-4SM doing this tends to get the panel farther and
farther

behind so that after a few seconds the panel is so far behind that the
observed blink rate is more like 1.0s/1.0s -- and the worst part is
that it queues them up, so the button will continue to blink well
after it's no longer being told to blink by the program.

So, in other words, don't try changing the color too frequently :)

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer
(Silver) ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 | F: 440.449.1106 |
I: Crestron Authorized Independent
Programmer

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On

Behalf Of Neil Dorin

Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 1:32 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] TPMC-4SMFD hard button feedback

IIRC the TPMC-4SM does not support individual led feedback for hard

buttons. You can select green or red as the backlight colour and then
turn the whole backlight on/off.

-Neil Dorin

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:50 PM, "ihaia09" <ihaia@...> wrote:

Hi Guys,

I am having a play with our campuses first TPMC-4SMFD and have
gotten

stuck on the feedback for the LED hardbuttons. I have limited
experience with Crestron touch panels as all we have on campus
TPSG-TPI's with different manufacturer touch panels so any help would
be gladly appreciated.

The result I am after is to get the LED hardbuttons to illuminate

individually dependant on feedback. Currently all i'm getting is all
hard buttons illuminated constantly whilst the panel is awake :(.

I presume this can be done as it mentions in a crestron document
that

the buttons can operate individually or globally. However I cannot
find where this is configured.

Additionally I have not made this a core-3ui project as I need to
keep

a similar look to our existing user interfaces. Does it need to be a
core-3ui project to get the outcome I want?

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

Cheers,

Ihaia

------------------------------------

Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in
the

Database area.

Groups Links

------------------------------------





Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.

Groups Links