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Crestron themselves have a couple controllers we like to use for LED Tape.? Both wired and wireless
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开云体育Hi, depends on what you call ?low cost“. I?m using Enttec ?Ethernet gateways or with PoE for smaller installation. Can be easily controlled via Crestron SACN-module. Regards, Thorsten ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von rickwookie ? Sadly, both those solutions are only designed for four-channel RGBW. Perhaps Crestron will bring out something soon to address the trend for five-channel RGBWW. |
开云体育Looks good to me – in my opinion, it should work. Thanks for pointing out – if it works it could be a good option for me as well. J ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von rickwookie ? Is sACN a standard, i.e. will the Crestron sACN module work with any interface that supports it? Reason I ask, this little thing claims to support ArtNet and sACN, so if I can control it easily, I may give it a try. It’s about half the price of the Enttec interface.? |
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Will report back when I’ve tried it.
To the OP if you go DMX, this is an example of a 5-channel decoder with a fairly high current capacity. You may find it more economical to use a pair of lower cost 3-Chanel DMX decoder drivers, and just use two of the three channels on the second one for the WW/CW output. |
开云体育sACN is a protocol standard albeit there were some earlier versions that weren’t quite released. But almost everything made now should all be compatible. You can use other manufactures DMX gateways for DMX out’s. If you want a good budget friendly unit which works well, look at?. They work pretty well.?
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开云体育Sunricher SR-2108B-M5-5... Sunricher is the OEM manufacturer for most LED/color tuning tapelight “manufacturers”. They’re $90 on Amazon. RGBWW is trash for tunable white color accuracy. Not accurate to black body curve and for high end troffers and linear based fixtures there are better solutions... just more expensive and you have to hand the chipset to the fixture assembler... or better yet, just do it yourself. Also, don’t skimp on the DMX controller. I’ve used the Enttecs and other cheaper solutions and when we are pushing lighting scenes carrying dozens of addresses you get inconsistent response - popcorning, level control issues. Go commercial grade for multiple load control. DMX is our main lighting control infrastructure for everything. On May 30, 2020, at 1:43 PM, rickwookie <rickwookie@...> wrote:
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开云体育Great — keep us posted on this. ?I’ll also look into the Crestron option. ?I like the idea of the ethernet based on… I was even thinking of using an H801 flash with Tasmota and then just controlling via HTTP — but I’d rather have a more “commercial” solution.?
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开云体育Very interesting. In terms of stripes I?d go for separates as well. You can get CCT-stripes with much better light quality (CRI>90) and lumen as separates compared to combined stripes. ? Could you elaborate a bit on the lights? What products do you use? Also on commercial grade controllers? ? Thanks. ? ? ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Pixels Bits ? Sunricher SR-2108B-M5-5... ? Sunricher is the OEM manufacturer for most LED/color tuning tapelight “manufacturers”. They’re $90 on Amazon. ? RGBWW is trash for tunable white color accuracy. Not accurate to black body curve and for high end troffers and linear based fixtures there are better solutions... just more expensive and you have to hand the chipset to the fixture assembler... or better yet, just do it yourself. ? Also, don’t skimp on the DMX controller. I’ve used the Enttecs and other cheaper solutions and when we are pushing lighting scenes carrying dozens of addresses you get inconsistent response - popcorning, level control issues. Go commercial grade for multiple load control. DMX is our main lighting control infrastructure for everything.
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开云体育Oh, and to control the Sunricher device you mentioned, you need an additional DMX gateway to be able to control it via Crestron, so that?s on top. ? ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Pixels Bits ? Sunricher SR-2108B-M5-5... ? Sunricher is the OEM manufacturer for most LED/color tuning tapelight “manufacturers”. They’re $90 on Amazon. ? RGBWW is trash for tunable white color accuracy. Not accurate to black body curve and for high end troffers and linear based fixtures there are better solutions... just more expensive and you have to hand the chipset to the fixture assembler... or better yet, just do it yourself. ? Also, don’t skimp on the DMX controller. I’ve used the Enttecs and other cheaper solutions and when we are pushing lighting scenes carrying dozens of addresses you get inconsistent response - popcorning, level control issues. Go commercial grade for multiple load control. DMX is our main lighting control infrastructure for everything.
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开云体育CRI is for the static colors. Not the color combinations that tend towards CRI 80... CRI is also an antiquated methodology for color rendering anyways. IES has adopted TM-30 which has a higher number of color samples for evaluating color accuracy - 18 vs 99. In addition, tunable white systems are evaluated based on accuracy to black body curve. Tunable white using CW/WW is tuning color based on color combination of two points on a line - 2700K and 6500K. Lines can’t hit points all points on a curve. In addition, color combinations of 3 primaries and white aren’t color accurate, the guys at Solid state lighting research department at the PNNL have shown that to get any modicum of accuracy along the black body curve you need at least 4 primary colors - like Ketra (RGB+Lime) - the more the better, 7, 9, 12, 24. Sunlight is a combination of multiple wavelengths not just RGB, tech is getting us close to more narrow band control of lighting. Commercial meaning Enttec show controllers, ETC, Pharos, Color Kinetics... RDM utilization is killer so SACN is insufficient and you really should be using ArtNet for bidirectional communication. Most downlights I used have iBeacon built in so I can do Bluetooth/RSSI evaluations to know where people are, feedback on thermal output, LED degradation, hour usage... Data data data. There are some chipsets in the process of building in motion sensing based on BLE wave evaluation rather than having to use PIR. You’re talking about true digital light fixtures with firmware upgrades and the ability to have functionalities added to them. Exciting times. On May 31, 2020, at 1:13 AM, Thorsten K?hler <thorsten.koehler@...> wrote:
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开云体育Yes you need a controller on top of a decoder. You need something that’s going to talk DMX on the system so Crestron can control it. Same with DALI... Crestron doesn’t have an integrated DMX master like Medialon does. And also those things do 5 amps across each color... the RGBWW tape light I use consumes 10 W/ft max using all colors meaning which means you can get 12’ off one of the decoders. If you need multiple decoders and they have to have something to manage communication as they can’t all just be masters. On May 31, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Pixels Bits via groups.io <george@...> wrote:
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开云体育Interesting information, thanks for sharing. I think I need to get an update on the LED stuff ;-) Regarding hardware, i?m doing just residential installations, so most of what you mention seems to be over the top for me. ? ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Pixels Bits ? CRI is for the static colors. Not the color combinations that tend towards CRI 80... CRI is also an antiquated methodology for color rendering anyways. IES has adopted TM-30 which has a higher number of color samples for evaluating color accuracy - 18 vs 99. ? In addition, tunable white systems are evaluated based on accuracy to black body curve. Tunable white using CW/WW is tuning color based on color combination of two points on a line - 2700K and 6500K. Lines can’t hit points all points on a curve. In addition, color combinations of 3 primaries and white aren’t color accurate, the guys at Solid state lighting research department at the PNNL have shown that to get any modicum of accuracy along the black body curve you need at least 4 primary colors - like Ketra (RGB+Lime) - the more the better, 7, 9, 12, 24. Sunlight is a combination of multiple wavelengths not just RGB, tech is getting us close to more narrow band control of lighting. ? Commercial meaning Enttec show controllers, ETC, Pharos, Color Kinetics... RDM utilization is killer so SACN is insufficient and you really should be using ArtNet for bidirectional communication. Most downlights I used have iBeacon built in so I can do Bluetooth/RSSI evaluations to know where people are, feedback on thermal output, LED degradation, hour usage... Data data data. There are some chipsets in the process of building in motion sensing based on BLE wave evaluation rather than having to use PIR. You’re talking about true digital light fixtures with firmware upgrades and the ability to have functionalities added to them. ? Exciting times.
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开云体育When I bought RGBWW strips they were RGB and warm white, with a cool white variant also available labeled as RGBW.?? .?? .?? ? From: <[email protected]> on behalf of "Kyle Goyer via groups.io" <Kyle.goyer@...> ? Ah gotchya. I read the WW as Warm White instead of 2 separate channels.?
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开云体育RGB + Dualwhite are also labeled ?RGBCCT“ or ?RGB+CCT“. ? ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von MSTC ? When I bought RGBWW strips they were RGB and warm white, with a cool white variant also available labeled as RGBW.?? .?? .?? ? From: <[email protected]> on behalf of "Kyle Goyer via groups.io" <Kyle.goyer@...> ? Ah gotchya. I read the WW as Warm White instead of 2 separate channels.?
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开云体育There is also something called a power repeater that can be employed if your load exceeds the rating on the controller . . . ? From: <[email protected]> on behalf of "Kyle Goyer via groups.io" <Kyle.goyer@...> ? Crestron themselves have a couple controllers we like to use for LED Tape.? Both wired and wireless
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