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RMC and CP2 Remote Cresnet Processing to two processors
开云体育Hi, ? i?m currently doing a rebuild of an existing system to a new one. The system uses a couple of old RMC100 to remote control devices via IR. These are included in the existing program as separate items with their own IP-ID. Is it possible to add them in parallel to the new program? I?d like to keep the existing system working and build up the new system in parallel. ? Same question for an old CP2 that is integrated via Cresnet Remote Processing into the existing program. Can that be added to the new program as well? ? Cheers, Thorsten |
开云体育RMC100 isn’t a complete/valid part number… Do you mean a QM-RMC, a DM-RMC-100, a DM-RMC-100-C, RMC3, RMC4, or something else? ? If it is a QM-RMC or RMC3 you can only have one master if it is in ESlave mode, but if it is running a program you can use multiple EISC to talk to multiple processors. If it is one of the DM-RMC flavors only one master IP table entry is supported ? So basically (without having a program running on the end point) they can be controlled from one device at a time. Likewise for a CP2/CSlave … Cresnet is a single master bus – there can only be one master on the bus at any time and that is whichever processor is running the program (not configured as a slave) so you can’t have two master processors trying to control any Cresnet devices at the same time including a CSlave CP2. ? Of course they can be added to the new program and moved back and forth as necessary during testing; or something I’ve done in my own home through major hardware evolutions is to add a temporary EISC from old to new, dragged all of the IO across the EISC and physically connected it to the new processor while letting the old program run in the old processor. This keeps things working while allowing you to roll in new logic (and as necessary, isolate old logic controls either as they are retired or for testing) ? Lincoln ? -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS, DMC-E-4K/T/D ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Thorsten K?hler
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 5:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [crestron] RMC and CP2 Remote Cresnet Processing to two processors ? Hi, ? i?m currently doing a rebuild of an existing system to a new one. The system uses a couple of old RMC100 to remote control devices via IR. These are included in the existing program as separate items with their own IP-ID. Is it possible to add them in parallel to the new program? I?d like to keep the existing system working and build up the new system in parallel. ? Same question for an old CP2 that is integrated via Cresnet Remote Processing into the existing program. Can that be added to the new program as well? ? Cheers, Thorsten |
开云体育Hi Lincoln, ? sorry for being unprecise on the part number – it?s indeed about a DM-RMC-100. So I guess the only route to run the new system in parallel to the old system is to use EISC. However, I hoped to get it working without fiddling with the old code. The system consists of three processor all handling different aspects (KNX, TPs, AV, etc.) and are already communicating to each other via EISCs. I already integrated one of them into the new program via EISC and that went well, so let?s get fingers crossed that the others can be integrated as well. ? ? Cheers, Thorsten ? ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Lincoln King-Cliby via groups.io ? RMC100 isn’t a complete/valid part number… Do you mean a QM-RMC, a DM-RMC-100, a DM-RMC-100-C, RMC3, RMC4, or something else? ? If it is a QM-RMC or RMC3 you can only have one master if it is in ESlave mode, but if it is running a program you can use multiple EISC to talk to multiple processors. If it is one of the DM-RMC flavors only one master IP table entry is supported ? So basically (without having a program running on the end point) they can be controlled from one device at a time. Likewise for a CP2/CSlave … Cresnet is a single master bus – there can only be one master on the bus at any time and that is whichever processor is running the program (not configured as a slave) so you can’t have two master processors trying to control any Cresnet devices at the same time including a CSlave CP2. ? Of course they can be added to the new program and moved back and forth as necessary during testing; or something I’ve done in my own home through major hardware evolutions is to add a temporary EISC from old to new, dragged all of the IO across the EISC and physically connected it to the new processor while letting the old program run in the old processor. This keeps things working while allowing you to roll in new logic (and as necessary, isolate old logic controls either as they are retired or for testing) ? Lincoln ? -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS, DMC-E-4K/T/D ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thorsten K?hler
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 5:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [crestron] RMC and CP2 Remote Cresnet Processing to two processors ? Hi, ? i?m currently doing a rebuild of an existing system to a new one. The system uses a couple of old RMC100 to remote control devices via IR. These are included in the existing program as separate items with their own IP-ID. Is it possible to add them in parallel to the new program? I?d like to keep the existing system working and build up the new system in parallel. ? Same question for an old CP2 that is integrated via Cresnet Remote Processing into the existing program. Can that be added to the new program as well? ? Cheers, Thorsten |
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It would be possible to move a DM-RMC-100C to the new system while keeping all the old DM-RMC-100 on the old system.? However it will not be cheap.? What you can do is buy a DM-TX-4KZ-100-C-1G for each DM-RMC-100-C you want to move.? Connect the HDMI input on the DM-TX-4KZ-100-C-1G to the HDMI output on the DM-MD-??x?? switcher instead of the DM output.? Then connect the LAN of the DM-RMC-100C to your network, DM input of the DM-RMC-100C to the DM output of the DM-4KZ-100-C-1G, set a reserved DHCP for the DM-RMC-100C in your router, and then add the DM-RMC-100-C to your new system as a stand alone Ethernet device. You can then drop your IR drivers on to the DM-RMC-100-C in your new program/processor. You have essential converted the DM-RMC-100-C into a HDMI balun -- and a very good one at that.? If have used the DM-RMC-100-C/DM-TX to solve HDMI balun issues in the pass where all other baluns have failed.
For the CP2, you can add a Ethernet to RS-232 adapter and connect it to a free RS232 port on the CP2.? Then X-signal any data you want to go between the systems via the comport.? I have used the Wiznet WIZ750SR-110 to add Ethernet to devices that had no Ethernet -- available from Mouser.com for about $30. Mouser part #950-WIZ750SR-110. Not possible to use the Cresnet on the CP2 if you make it a Cresnet slave. |
开云体育Not possible to make the CP2 an ESlave because the CP2 doesn’t have Ethernet J You needed the CP2E for that ? -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS, DMC-E-4K/T/D ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Steve Kuehn
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 11:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [crestron] RMC and CP2 Remote Cresnet Processing to two processors ? [Edited Message Follows] It would be possible to move a DM-RMC-100C to the new system while keeping all the old DM-RMC-100 on the old system.? However it will not be cheap.? What you can do is buy a DM-TX-4KZ-100-C-1G for each DM-RMC-100-C you want to move.? Connect
the HDMI input on the DM-TX-4KZ-100-C-1G to the HDMI output on the DM-MD-??x?? switcher instead of the DM output.? Then connect the LAN of the DM-RMC-100C to your network, The DM input of the DM-RMC-100C to the DM-output of the DM-4KZ-100-C-1G, set a reserved
DHCP for the DM-RMC-100C in your router, and then add the DM-RMC-100-C to your new system as a stand alone Ethernet device. You can then drop your IR drivers on to the DM-RMC-100-C in your new program/processor. You have essential converted the DM-RMC-100-C
into a balun -- and a very good one at that.? If have used the DM-RMC-100-C/DM-TX to solve HDMI balun issues in the pass where all other baluns have failed. |
开云体育Hi, ? thanks for the suggestion, but that would be bit over the top. There are a couple of RMC-100 and they are not even used for HDMI, but only for IR/RS232. So I think i?ll go with EISCs. ? Cheers, Thorsten ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Steve Kuehn ? [Edited Message Follows] It would be possible to move a DM-RMC-100C to the new system while keeping all the old DM-RMC-100 on the old system.? However it will not be cheap.? What you can do is buy a DM-TX-4KZ-100-C-1G for each DM-RMC-100-C you want to move.? Connect the HDMI input on the DM-TX-4KZ-100-C-1G to the HDMI output on the DM-MD-??x?? switcher instead of the DM output.? Then connect the LAN of the DM-RMC-100C to your network, DM input of the DM-RMC-100C to the DM output of the DM-4KZ-100-C-1G, set a reserved DHCP for the DM-RMC-100C in your router, and then add the DM-RMC-100-C to your new system as a stand alone Ethernet device. You can then drop your IR drivers on to the DM-RMC-100-C in your new program/processor. You have essential converted the DM-RMC-100-C into a HDMI balun -- and a very good one at that.? If have used the DM-RMC-100-C/DM-TX to solve HDMI balun issues in the pass where all other baluns have failed. |
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If you aren't even using the HDMI, just leave the DM port disconnected and connect them to the LAN via the LAN port instead.? No need to EISCs to them.? They will just be another Ethernet device hanging off the LAN.? The only purpose? of the DM-TX-4KZ-100-C-1G is to get HDMI to them.
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开云体育I believe what Thorsten is saying is that in the existing program they’re currently being used as Ethernet IO devices (along the lines of a QM-RMC in ESlave mode without the processing power) – I may or may not have done this at home from time to time for some quick and dirty IO… ? Since DM-RMC-100s only support a single Ethernet master IP table entry, because they’re being used that way in the existing program he can’t also have them directly talking to the “new” program/processor at the same time – so if he wants to be able to keep the old program running while testing new programming (or moving chunks of logic at a time) an EISC is needed to pipeline control between the two masters. ? -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS, DMC-E-4K/T/D ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Steve Kuehn
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 9:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [crestron] RMC and CP2 Remote Cresnet Processing to two processors ? If you aren't even using the HDMI, just leave the DM port disconnected and connect them to the LAN via the LAN port instead.? No need to EISCs to them.? They will just be another Ethernet device hanging off
the LAN.? The only purpose? of the DM-TX-4KZ-100-C-1G is to get HDMI to them.
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开云体育Exactly Lincoln – thanks for clarifying. ? Cheers, Thorsten ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Lincoln King-Cliby via groups.io ? I believe what Thorsten is saying is that in the existing program they’re currently being used as Ethernet IO devices (along the lines of a QM-RMC in ESlave mode without the processing power) – I may or may not have done this at home from time to time for some quick and dirty IO… ? Since DM-RMC-100s only support a single Ethernet master IP table entry, because they’re being used that way in the existing program he can’t also have them directly talking to the “new” program/processor at the same time – so if he wants to be able to keep the old program running while testing new programming (or moving chunks of logic at a time) an EISC is needed to pipeline control between the two masters. ? -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS, DMC-E-4K/T/D ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Kuehn ? If you aren't even using the HDMI, just leave the DM port disconnected and connect them to the LAN via the LAN port instead.? No need to EISCs to them.? They will just be another Ethernet device hanging off the LAN.? The only purpose? of the DM-TX-4KZ-100-C-1G is to get HDMI to them.
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