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Studio vs SIMPL+VTPpro


 

So I've been poking around studio for a bit lately. And was wondering if it was a good alternative to using simpl and vtpro. I am fairly new to the whole Crestron ecosystem of tools and would love some advice.

Cheers,
Santi


 

I could be wrong but I do not think studio can replace vtpro. It can be used to create or edit themes but they would still need to be imported and programmed in vtpro.


On Mon, Jun 8, 2020, 6:38 PM <santiago@...> wrote:
So I've been poking around studio for a bit lately. And was wondering if it was a good alternative to using simpl and vtpro. I am fairly new to the whole Crestron ecosystem of tools and would love some advice.

Cheers,
Santi


 

Eventually everything will be done through studio. Simpl windows and vt pro are there for the older stuff and to build customs from ground up. But that is all getting or has been added to studio already. You can create a full custom job in? studio now. It just not same process as simpl and vtpro. It is closer to system builder but much more flexable.


On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 4:07 PM, Dillon Costanza
<dmcostanza1992@...> wrote:
I could be wrong but I do not think studio can replace vtpro. It can be used to create or edit themes but they would still need to be imported and programmed in vtpro.

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020, 6:38 PM <santiago@...> wrote:
So I've been poking around studio for a bit lately. And was wondering if it was a good alternative to using simpl and vtpro. I am fairly new to the whole Crestron ecosystem of tools and would love some advice.

Cheers,
Santi


 
Edited

Say whaaatttt?? Studio is EOL, finished.


 

Oh OK. I was just confused by all the software they have on offer for programming.?


 

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One of the other programmers where I work will no longer program in Studio because of the bugs, limitations, and stability issues.? In particular, he says trying to go back and make a minor change in the system at some later date usually lands up corrupting the program were you have to rebuild the system from scratch.? He has since learn to program in SIMPL and much prefers that over studio.

At least with System Builder, you could fix bugs by opening it in SIMPL and make a patch.? But at that point, you could never use System Builder again.? But it was a reasonable thing to do with old systems to get them running again.? That isn't possible with Studio.?

I myself have never programmed in Studio although I have be called in several times to figure out some bizarre issues.? In the end, they all appeared to be bugs with no easy fix.

By like someone else said, Studio is pretty much end of life now.? I would stay clear of it.

    
On 6/8/20 5:03 PM, santiago via groups.io wrote:

So I've been poking around studio for a bit lately. And was wondering if it was a good alternative to using simpl and vtpro. I am fairly new to the whole Crestron ecosystem of tools and would love some advice.

Cheers,
Santi


 

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I went to a Studio two day class a few years ago and it was a hot mess. No one¡¯s programs would work, not even the instructors. It was so terrible that the instructor did not even finish the curriculum for the course and he ended class early. I promptly deleted it from my computer that day and never looked back.
SIMPL and VTP Will be around for sometime, even with the eventual progression toward CH5.?

Ryan Cunningham?

On Jun 8, 2020, at 7:45 PM, Steve Kuehn <steve@...> wrote:

? One of the other programmers where I work will no longer program in Studio because of the bugs, limitations, and stability issues.? In particular, he says trying to go back and make a minor change in the system at some later date usually lands up corrupting the program were you have to rebuild the system from scratch.? He has since learn to program in SIMPL and much prefers that over studio.

At least with System Builder, you could fix bugs by opening it in SIMPL and make a patch.? But at that point, you could never use System Builder again.? But it was a reasonable thing to do with old systems to get them running again.? That isn't possible with Studio.?

I myself have never programmed in Studio although I have be called in several times to figure out some bizarre issues.? In the end, they all appeared to be bugs with no easy fix.

By like someone else said, Studio is pretty much end of life now.? I would stay clear of it.

    
On 6/8/20 5:03 PM, santiago via groups.io wrote:
So I've been poking around studio for a bit lately. And was wondering if it was a good alternative to using simpl and vtpro. I am fairly new to the whole Crestron ecosystem of tools and would love some advice.

Cheers,
Santi


 

Studio is EOL and is going to become abandonware.?

The idea was for it to supersede SIMPL and VT-Pro-e, but it never really took off and nobody really adopted it because it sucked for numerous reasons.?

Still required for creating custom Smart Graphics. But beyond that, SIMPL & VT-Pro-e or C# & HTML5 will be your friend going forward.?