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AVIA vs Symetrix
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Working with another integrator and his goto is Symetrix.? He was thinking about trying an AVIA, but for me I was thinking that it would be best for them to stay with what they know.? Just wondering if there is a suite of modules like Biamp and others.? Also what is peoples opinion of the Crestron AVIA vs Symetrix
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýSymetrix is very friendly integration except for the dialer (POTS/VOIP) portions, IMO and there should be a suite of modules floating around; if not virtually every command is CS [control id]=[value]\x0D\x0A where [control ID] is assigned in the DSP configuration and is 1-65535 and value is 0-65535. ? I would take Symetrix in a heartbeat. ? ? ? -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS, DMC-E-4K/T/D ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
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Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 5:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [crestron] AVIA vs Symetrix ? Working with another integrator and his goto is Symetrix.? He was thinking about trying an AVIA, but for me I was thinking that it would be best for them to stay with what they know.? Just wondering if there is a suite of modules like Biamp and others.? Also what is peoples opinion of the Crestron AVIA vs Symetrix |
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I have used both and prefer Symetrix although using an AVIA is pretty great if you¡¯re looking to finish a coding job quickly (the exporting of touch panel graphics and control blocks was huge for me). Overall, I think Symetrix is a better DSP and the modules on the application market work great. If you do decide to go with Symetrix, I think the serial modules work much more reliably than the ip command processor.?
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My company almost always goes with either symetrix or qsys, there's modules out there it's very integrator friendly I've ran into next to no issues with symetrix.? On Wed, Jun 3, 2020, 5:44 PM gablerjohn <ComeAlive@...> wrote: Working with another integrator and his goto is Symetrix.? He was thinking about trying an AVIA, but for me I was thinking that it would be best for them to stay with what they know.? Just wondering if there is a suite of modules like Biamp and others.? Also what is peoples opinion of the Crestron AVIA vs Symetrix |
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I have standardized my designs/programming around Symetrix. Very easy to design a site file and control with either serial or IP - I chose IP 100% of the time with no issues. Also, depending on which model of Symetrix you use, most of them are open architecture whereas the Crestron Avia DSP is closed architecture?(I have used Biamp - Clearone - Polycom Vortex in the past).
I have colleagues that are audio gurus - when asked, their recommendation to me was, stay away from Avia. The direct import for GUI is just not enough for me to use a newcomer DSP. AV_Programmer |
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýFor me, the direct GUI import (and the corresponding lack of control) is perhaps the biggest reason in the ¡°not¡± column for Avia ¨C though I¡¯ve also not heard any audio people I trust praising it¡¯s performance ¨C the lack of control you have over Avia¡¯s appearance and behavior using the GUI exports is massively problematic in my opinion and experience. ? (As just two points: The DSP programmer can¡¯t implement min/max limits; the GUI designer becomes critically dependent on the DSP programmer when typically GUI designs are being built, submitted, and signed off on long before ¨C as many as 6 months before ¨C a DSP programmer even knows the project exists let alone is building a DSP configuration). If it could be implemented/controlled similar to its peers I don¡¯t think the closed architecture is necessarily fatal. ? Lincoln ? ? -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS, DMC-E-4K/T/D ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
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Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 8:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [crestron] AVIA vs Symetrix ? I have standardized my designs/programming around Symetrix. Very easy to design a site file and control with either serial or IP - I chose IP 100% of the time with no issues. Also, depending on which model of Symetrix you use, most of them
are open architecture whereas the Crestron Avia DSP is closed architecture?(I have used Biamp - Clearone - Polycom Vortex in the past). |
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AVIA seems to be dying a slow death. It is/was an OK product, but compared to other matrix-based DSPs, it's not the most flexible. Even Extron's competing product (DMP) far exceeds the capabilities in every way. The appeal of fixed architecture matrix-based DSPs is fixed latency. Depending on your application, you may or may not care.?
Biamp/QSC/Symetrix should be your go to, by and large. They offer a virtually infinite amount of flexibility due to being open architecture platforms. They're all very reliable. They're all VERY well documented (can't say that about Crestron) and there are modules that work very well in the application market (they even include sample programs so you can see what all you need to do). Latency depends on the processing applied and will be unique for every file. But if you don't have both signals to reference and compare, you shouldn't notice it. Generally ~5ms from in to out.? |