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New iOS App?


Bart Podkowka
 

Hi,

Did I overslept something?
There is a new app in app store with sip support!

Saludos,
Regards,
mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Bart J. Podkowka
CISoftware Mallorca
www.cisoftware.eu<>

Tel. 971570971 Mov. 616273563

Check our website for quality LED lighting products!


Jesus @ Audio& Net Artist
 

Just downloaded as "free" but when you go to Updrade it will charge you the
$99.99. maybe is like the traditional way free with limited and paid for
expanded. I cannot even run the Demo for some reason... And now requires
IPID anc CIP.

--
*Jesus Tossas*
*
*
*Technology Architect, Audio Engineer, Programmer*
*
*
*787-329-3944*
*
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Oh ok. I didn't even see the upgrade feature. I guess that will keep people
from sharing the paid version.

Sent from my eMail.

On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:20 AM, "Jesus @ Audio& Net Artist" <
audioandnetartist@...> wrote:



Just downloaded as "free" but when you go to Updrade it will charge you the
$99.99. maybe is like the traditional way free with limited and paid for
expanded. I cannot even run the Demo for some reason... And now requires
IPID anc CIP.

--
*Jesus Tossas*
*
*
*Technology Architect, Audio Engineer, Programmer*
*
*
*787-329-3944*
*
*
Contact Info <>






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Heath Volmer
 

I assume that since it's an in-app purchase, it's now $99 per unit.

On Jun 7, 2013, at 6:31 AM, Nick Mitchell <nick@...> wrote:

Oh ok. I didn't even see the upgrade feature. I guess that will keep people
from sharing the paid version.

Sent from my eMail.

On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:20 AM, "Jesus @ Audio& Net Artist" <
audioandnetartist@...> wrote:



Just downloaded as "free" but when you go to Updrade it will charge you the
$99.99. maybe is like the traditional way free with limited and paid for
expanded. I cannot even run the Demo for some reason... And now requires
IPID anc CIP.

--
*Jesus Tossas*
*
*
*Technology Architect, Audio Engineer, Programmer*
*
*
*787-329-3944*
*
*
Contact Info <>

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Now that would definitely put a damper on it if I need to tell the client it
is $99 per each iOS device.

Pat M


From: Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...>
Reply-To: <Crestron@...>
Date: Friday, June 7, 2013 9:44 AM
To: <Crestron@...>
Subject: Re: [Crestron] New iOS App?






I assume that since it's an in-app purchase, it's now $99 per unit.

On Jun 7, 2013, at 6:31 AM, Nick Mitchell <nick@...
<mailto:nick%40sound-fx.net> > wrote:

Oh ok. I didn't even see the upgrade feature. I guess that will keep people
from sharing the paid version.

Sent from my eMail.

On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:20 AM, "Jesus @ Audio& Net Artist" <
audioandnetartist@... <mailto:audioandnetartist%40gmail.com> > wrote:



Just downloaded as "free" but when you go to Updrade it will charge you the
$99.99. maybe is like the traditional way free with limited and paid for
expanded. I cannot even run the Demo for some reason... And now requires
IPID anc CIP.

--
*Jesus Tossas*
*
*
*Technology Architect, Audio Engineer, Programmer*
*
*
*787-329-3944*
*
*
Contact Info <>

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Heather Baiman
 

And it's not compatible with Gen1 iPads which is what I have been using as a test unit :(

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Heath Volmer
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 9:44 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] New iOS App?

I assume that since it's an in-app purchase, it's now $99 per unit.


On Jun 7, 2013, at 6:31 AM, Nick Mitchell <nick@...> wrote:

Oh ok. I didn't even see the upgrade feature. I guess that will keep people
from sharing the paid version.

Sent from my eMail.

On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:20 AM, "Jesus @ Audio& Net Artist" <
audioandnetartist@...> wrote:



Just downloaded as "free" but when you go to Updrade it will charge you the
$99.99. maybe is like the traditional way free with limited and paid for
expanded. I cannot even run the Demo for some reason... And now requires
IPID anc CIP.

--
*Jesus Tossas*
*
*
*Technology Architect, Audio Engineer, Programmer*
*
*
*787-329-3944*
*
*
Contact Info <>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------------------------------



Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

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Michael J Coe
 

Yeah that will hurt the sale for sure

Michael J Coe

On Jun 7, 2013, at 9:48 AM, PatM Gmail <pat.molettieri@...> wrote:

Now that would definitely put a damper on it if I need to tell the client it
is $99 per each iOS device.

Pat M

From: Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...>
Reply-To: <Crestron@...>
Date: Friday, June 7, 2013 9:44 AM
To: <Crestron@...>
Subject: Re: [Crestron] New iOS App?

I assume that since it's an in-app purchase, it's now $99 per unit.

On Jun 7, 2013, at 6:31 AM, Nick Mitchell <nick@...
<mailto:nick%40sound-fx.net> > wrote:

Oh ok. I didn't even see the upgrade feature. I guess that will keep people
from sharing the paid version.

Sent from my eMail.

On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:20 AM, "Jesus @ Audio& Net Artist" <
audioandnetartist@... <mailto:audioandnetartist%40gmail.com> > wrote:



Just downloaded as "free" but when you go to Updrade it will charge you the
$99.99. maybe is like the traditional way free with limited and paid for
expanded. I cannot even run the Demo for some reason... And now requires
IPID anc CIP.

--
*Jesus Tossas*
*
*
*Technology Architect, Audio Engineer, Programmer*
*
*
*787-329-3944*
*
*
Contact Info <>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.

Yahoo! Groups Links


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


 

The in-app purchases operate like most apps, it's a "per account" purchase so once you purchase it once for iPad #1, for every subsequent device you use the "Restore Purchase" option.

So, in a nutshell you pay once, and can deploy it to the other devices that use the same account (technically per the TOS it's only supposed to be a maximum of 5 devices, but I've never seen that kick in personally)

Also in some basic testing with it.

- Scrolling lists are *agonizingly* slow and clunky, on a par if not worse than the lag on TSW's

- You're locked into one orientation when you create the project, portrait or landscape, no dual orientation mode currently

- The built-in demo is laughable, only show this to a prospective client if you want to use it to sell away from Crestron into something like Command Fusion or someone else's product. This was obviously crammed in at the last possible minute and whoever is responsible for the project said "ah screw it, it's good enough, ship it out!"

It took close to 2 years for them to dial in Mobile Pro and Mobile Pro G, this is going to be a rough go for the next several months, be sure to stock up on coffee and advil and prepare for a lot of cursing. I've already started.

On the plus side - the widgets worked well and the weather app was snappy and responsive. And I think with this release it will likely accelerate the development of Core3 both from True Blue's side and our side as we deploy it more.

Good luck everyone,

Rich

--- In Crestron@..., Michael J Coe <pe2b4nasa@...> wrote:

Yeah that will hurt the sale for sure

Michael J Coe

On Jun 7, 2013, at 9:48 AM, PatM Gmail <pat.molettieri@...> wrote:

Now that would definitely put a damper on it if I need to tell the client it
is $99 per each iOS device.

Pat M

From: Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...>
Reply-To: <Crestron@...>
Date: Friday, June 7, 2013 9:44 AM
To: <Crestron@...>
Subject: Re: [Crestron] New iOS App?

I assume that since it's an in-app purchase, it's now $99 per unit.

On Jun 7, 2013, at 6:31 AM, Nick Mitchell <nick@...
<mailto:nick%40sound-fx.net> > wrote:

Oh ok. I didn't even see the upgrade feature. I guess that will keep people
from sharing the paid version.

Sent from my eMail.

On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:20 AM, "Jesus @ Audio& Net Artist" <
audioandnetartist@... <mailto:audioandnetartist%40gmail.com> > wrote:



Just downloaded as "free" but when you go to Updrade it will charge you the
$99.99. maybe is like the traditional way free with limited and paid for
expanded. I cannot even run the Demo for some reason... And now requires
IPID anc CIP.

--
*Jesus Tossas*
*
*
*Technology Architect, Audio Engineer, Programmer*
*
*
*787-329-3944*
*
*
Contact Info <>






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------------------------------------




Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.

Yahoo! Groups Links





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Michael J Coe
 

Thanks for the info. I checked with Apple an each AppleID can be associated with a maximum of 10 devices. If you have more than 10 you will have to create another AppleID (these appleIDs cannot be associated with each other (ie appleID 1: name@... & appleID 2 name.1@...) do not link these two e-mails with apple)

Michael J Coe

On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:25 AM, "rich_fregosa" <rich@...> wrote:



The in-app purchases operate like most apps, it's a "per account" purchase so once you purchase it once for iPad #1, for every subsequent device you use the "Restore Purchase" option.

So, in a nutshell you pay once, and can deploy it to the other devices that use the same account (technically per the TOS it's only supposed to be a maximum of 5 devices, but I've never seen that kick in personally)

Also in some basic testing with it.

- Scrolling lists are *agonizingly* slow and clunky, on a par if not worse than the lag on TSW's

- You're locked into one orientation when you create the project, portrait or landscape, no dual orientation mode currently

- The built-in demo is laughable, only show this to a prospective client if you want to use it to sell away from Crestron into something like Command Fusion or someone else's product. This was obviously crammed in at the last possible minute and whoever is responsible for the project said "ah screw it, it's good enough, ship it out!"

It took close to 2 years for them to dial in Mobile Pro and Mobile Pro G, this is going to be a rough go for the next several months, be sure to stock up on coffee and advil and prepare for a lot of cursing. I've already started.

On the plus side - the widgets worked well and the weather app was snappy and responsive. And I think with this release it will likely accelerate the development of Core3 both from True Blue's side and our side as we deploy it more.

Good luck everyone,

Rich

--- In Crestron@..., Michael J Coe <pe2b4nasa@...> wrote:

Yeah that will hurt the sale for sure

Michael J Coe

On Jun 7, 2013, at 9:48 AM, PatM Gmail <pat.molettieri@...> wrote:

Now that would definitely put a damper on it if I need to tell the client it
is $99 per each iOS device.

Pat M

From: Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...>
Reply-To: <Crestron@...>
Date: Friday, June 7, 2013 9:44 AM
To: <Crestron@...>
Subject: Re: [Crestron] New iOS App?

I assume that since it's an in-app purchase, it's now $99 per unit.

On Jun 7, 2013, at 6:31 AM, Nick Mitchell <nick@...
<mailto:nick%40sound-fx.net> > wrote:

Oh ok. I didn't even see the upgrade feature. I guess that will keep people
from sharing the paid version.

Sent from my eMail.

On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:20 AM, "Jesus @ Audio& Net Artist" <
audioandnetartist@... <mailto:audioandnetartist%40gmail.com> > wrote:



Just downloaded as "free" but when you go to Updrade it will charge you the
$99.99. maybe is like the traditional way free with limited and paid for
expanded. I cannot even run the Demo for some reason... And now requires
IPID anc CIP.

--
*Jesus Tossas*
*
*
*Technology Architect, Audio Engineer, Programmer*
*
*
*787-329-3944*
*
*
Contact Info <>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]








------------------------------------




Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.

Yahoo! Groups Links


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Thanks Rich. That does make it better and just like any other iOS app
purchase. Once I saw it as an in-app purchase I assumed (that dam word
again) that it was per device. Dang assumptions. Guess we'll have to stick
with the Mobile Pro G versions for now until bugs are ironed out.

Pat M


From: rich_fregosa <rich@...>
Reply-To: <Crestron@...>
Date: Friday, June 7, 2013 11:25 AM
To: <Crestron@...>
Subject: [Crestron] Re: New iOS App?








The in-app purchases operate like most apps, it's a "per account" purchase
so once you purchase it once for iPad #1, for every subsequent device you
use the "Restore Purchase" option.

So, in a nutshell you pay once, and can deploy it to the other devices that
use the same account (technically per the TOS it's only supposed to be a
maximum of 5 devices, but I've never seen that kick in personally)

Also in some basic testing with it.

- Scrolling lists are *agonizingly* slow and clunky, on a par if not worse
than the lag on TSW's

- You're locked into one orientation when you create the project, portrait
or landscape, no dual orientation mode currently

- The built-in demo is laughable, only show this to a prospective client if
you want to use it to sell away from Crestron into something like Command
Fusion or someone else's product. This was obviously crammed in at the last
possible minute and whoever is responsible for the project said "ah screw
it, it's good enough, ship it out!"

It took close to 2 years for them to dial in Mobile Pro and Mobile Pro G,
this is going to be a rough go for the next several months, be sure to stock
up on coffee and advil and prepare for a lot of cursing. I've already
started.

On the plus side - the widgets worked well and the weather app was snappy
and responsive. And I think with this release it will likely accelerate the
development of Core3 both from True Blue's side and our side as we deploy it
more.

Good luck everyone,

Rich

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ,
Michael J Coe <pe2b4nasa@...> wrote:

Yeah that will hurt the sale for sure

Michael J Coe

On Jun 7, 2013, at 9:48 AM, PatM Gmail <pat.molettieri@...> wrote:

Now that would definitely put a damper on it if I need to tell the client it
is $99 per each iOS device.

Pat M

From: Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...>
Reply-To: <Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> >
Date: Friday, June 7, 2013 9:44 AM
To: <Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> >
Subject: Re: [Crestron] New iOS App?

I assume that since it's an in-app purchase, it's now $99 per unit.

On Jun 7, 2013, at 6:31 AM, Nick Mitchell <nick@...
<mailto:nick%40sound-fx.net> > wrote:

Oh ok. I didn't even see the upgrade feature. I guess that will keep
people
from sharing the paid version.

Sent from my eMail.

On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:20 AM, "Jesus @ Audio& Net Artist" <
audioandnetartist@... <mailto:audioandnetartist%40gmail.com> > wrote:



Just downloaded as "free" but when you go to Updrade it will charge you
the
$99.99. maybe is like the traditional way free with limited and paid for
expanded. I cannot even run the Demo for some reason... And now requires
IPID anc CIP.

--
*Jesus Tossas*
*
*
*Technology Architect, Audio Engineer, Programmer*
*
*
*787-329-3944*
*
*
Contact Info <>






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------------------------------




Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.

Yahoo! Groups Links







 

Scrolling lists are *agonizingly* slow and clunky, on a par if not worse than the lag on TSW's
I'm surprised to hear that - in general the performance I thought was much better. Perhaps if you wouldn't mind sending me a project to exhibit this. Is this a general consensus on this group?

You're locked into one orientation when you create the project, portrait or landscape, no dual orientation mode currently
Rotation is coming this summer.

The built-in demo is laughable
Actually, we had a much nicer demo but due to some "guidelines" we had to swap it out. A better demo will be added next week.



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Eric Williams
 

I was incredibly pleased with the performance. I did notice the lists on the weather object were scrolling ridiculously slow. I loaded a program into our office from home. Even over a remote connection the UI responded very fast. I loaded in some sound they also played almost as soon as I pressed the buttons. I also noticed as long as you don't shut down the app it seems like it doesn't even disconnect from the control system. No spinny things.

-----Original Message-----
From: "John Pavlik" <jpavlik@...>
Sent: �6/�7/�2013 12:34 PM
To: "Crestron@..." <Crestron@...>
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: New iOS App?


Scrolling lists are *agonizingly* slow and clunky, on a par if not worse than the lag on TSW's
I'm surprised to hear that - in general the performance I thought was much better. Perhaps if you wouldn't mind sending me a project to exhibit this. Is this a general consensus on this group?

You're locked into one orientation when you create the project, portrait or landscape, no dual orientation mode currently
Rotation is coming this summer.

The built-in demo is laughable
Actually, we had a much nicer demo but due to some "guidelines" we had to swap it out. A better demo will be added next week.

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Jason Andersen
 

Initially looking at this, it is disappointing. The interface is not using retina graphics, items are not lineup correctly, and the demo is laughable.

--- In Crestron@..., Bart Podkowka <bart@...> wrote:

Hi,

Did I overslept something?
There is a new app in app store with sip support!

Saludos,
Regards,
mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Bart J. Podkowka
CISoftware Mallorca
www.cisoftware.eu<>

Tel. 971570971 Mov. 616273563

Check our website for quality LED lighting products!






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So am I going to be able to update my existing apps or is it a whole new purchase?

--- In Crestron@..., Bart Podkowka <bart@...> wrote:

Hi,

Did I overslept something?
There is a new app in app store with sip support!

Saludos,
Regards,
mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Bart J. Podkowka
CISoftware Mallorca
www.cisoftware.eu<>

Tel. 971570971 Mov. 616273563

Check our website for quality LED lighting products!






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


 

Whole new products - whole new purchases - for the time being there are 4 flavors to chose from

Original
Crestron Mobile Pro - $99.99
Crestron Mobile Pro G - $99.99

Extra Crispy (New and Improved)
Crestron App for iPhone - $99.99
Crestron App for iPad - $99.99

--- In Crestron@..., "Gregg M" <jets_in_2003@...> wrote:

So am I going to be able to update my existing apps or is it a whole new purchase?

--- In Crestron@..., Bart Podkowka <bart@> wrote:

Hi,

Did I overslept something?
There is a new app in app store with sip support!

Saludos,
Regards,
mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Bart J. Podkowka
CISoftware Mallorca
www.cisoftware.eu<>

Tel. 971570971 Mov. 616273563

Check our website for quality LED lighting products!






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Tim F
 

Whole new purchase despite them saying otherwise at Masters.

Tim F




________________________________
From: Gregg M <jets_in_2003@...>
To: Crestron@...
Sent: Friday, June 7, 2013 1:06 PM
Subject: [Crestron] Re: New iOS App?




So am I going to be able to update my existing apps or is it a whole new purchase?

--- In Crestron@..., Bart Podkowka <bart@...> wrote:

Hi,

Did I overslept something?
There is a new app in app store with sip support!

Saludos,
Regards,
mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Bart J. Podkowka
CISoftware Mallorca
www.cisoftware.eu<>

Tel. 971570971 Mov. 616273563

Check our website for quality LED lighting products!








 

Damn them........(anger fist shake)

--- In Crestron@..., "Gregg M" <jets_in_2003@...> wrote:

So am I going to be able to update my existing apps or is it a whole new purchase?

--- In Crestron@..., Bart Podkowka <bart@> wrote:

Hi,

Did I overslept something?
There is a new app in app store with sip support!

Saludos,
Regards,
mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Bart J. Podkowka
CISoftware Mallorca
www.cisoftware.eu<>

Tel. 971570971 Mov. 616273563

Check our website for quality LED lighting products!






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I really fail to understand the complaints here. Crestron has put
significant time and effort into building an entirely new App. They are
entitled to charge for their efforts.

Also, for most of us this is an easy revenue generator. For the relatively
small $99 investment on the client's behalf, we can now charge as much as
reasonably possible to program a new SmartGraphics panel for their iOS
devices. The salesman in all of you should be chomping at the bit for this
opportunity they've handed you on a platter....

While you're at it, why not convince them to upgrade their old non
SmartGraphics capable panels to support a unified UI and since you can
virtually copy and paste between interfaces with SmartGraphics, it's a heck
of a lot easier than it used to be....

Quit whining. Start doing business...


On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Gregg M <jets_in_2003@...> wrote:

**


Damn them........(anger fist shake)


--- In Crestron@..., "Gregg M" <jets_in_2003@...> wrote:

So am I going to be able to update my existing apps or is it a whole new
purchase?

--- In Crestron@..., Bart Podkowka <bart@> wrote:

Hi,

Did I overslept something?
There is a new app in app store with sip support!

Saludos,
Regards,
mit freundlichen Gren,

Bart J. Podkowka
CISoftware Mallorca
www.cisoftware.eu<>

Tel. 971570971 Mov. 616273563

Check our website for quality LED lighting products!






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Andrew Yalowitz
 

I agree, though I wish the app was universal iPhone/iPad, instead of a separate one for each.


 

I, in no way, have an issue with Crestron being paid for their new iPad app. It is absolutely appropriate for someone buying a Crestron system and using iPads instead of Crestron touch panels to pay for that privilege. I do thing it sucks that all of us, who put in a great deal of effort making all that revenue possible for Crestron, get charged the same $$ as the guy who can afford a large DM implementation in his own home.

My $.02

Jay

----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil Dorin" <neildorin@...>
To: "crestron" <Crestron@...>
Sent: Friday, June 7, 2013 2:06:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: New iOS App?

I really fail to understand the complaints here. Crestron has put
significant time and effort into building an entirely new App. They are
entitled to charge for their efforts.

Also, for most of us this is an easy revenue generator. For the relatively
small $99 investment on the client's behalf, we can now charge as much as
reasonably possible to program a new SmartGraphics panel for their iOS
devices. The salesman in all of you should be chomping at the bit for this
opportunity they've handed you on a platter....

While you're at it, why not convince them to upgrade their old non
SmartGraphics capable panels to support a unified UI and since you can
virtually copy and paste between interfaces with SmartGraphics, it's a heck
of a lot easier than it used to be....

Quit whining. Start doing business...


On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Gregg M <jets_in_2003@...> wrote:

**


Damn them........(anger fist shake)


--- In Crestron@..., "Gregg M" <jets_in_2003@...> wrote:

So am I going to be able to update my existing apps or is it a whole new
purchase?

--- In Crestron@..., Bart Podkowka <bart@> wrote:

Hi,

Did I overslept something?
There is a new app in app store with sip support!

Saludos,
Regards,
mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Bart J. Podkowka
CISoftware Mallorca
www.cisoftware.eu<>

Tel. 971570971 Mov. 616273563

Check our website for quality LED lighting products!













------------------------------------



Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
Yahoo! Groups Links