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On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 2:30 PM, jbudz1977 <jbudz1977@...> wrote:

**


Why can't I just type ping (hostname) in my dos prompt and have it
respond? How come sometimes toolbox lets me connect by hostname and other
times not so much? Why do I get a pop up every time I open toolbox saying
it adjusted some settings to let me connect by hostname? With computers it
just works, why not with Crestrons?

--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin <neildorin@...> wrote:

DOS....?

It mostly has to do with there being a valid DNS/gateway service on the
subnet where your equipment resides. There has to be something to
translate the hostname into an actual IP address. If you're just plugging
a bunch of gear into a switch, there may be nothing to resolve a hostname
for you.

What OS are you running?



On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 2:30 PM, jbudz1977 <jbudz1977@...> wrote:

**


Why can't I just type ping (hostname) in my dos prompt and have it
respond? How come sometimes toolbox lets me connect by hostname and other
times not so much? Why do I get a pop up every time I open toolbox saying
it adjusted some settings to let me connect by hostname? With computers it
just works, why not with Crestrons?

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In Crestron@..., Geoffrey Reynolds <greynlds@...> wrote:

Yeah, it's pretty common for us old timers to refer to the Command Prompt
in the new OS's as a DOS Prompt.

Geoff

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Chris Niles
<chris.niles.crestron@...>wrote:

DOS prompt == Windows Command Prompt
Sometimes I slip and call it that too.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 4:34 PM, "Anthony Desimone" <
anthony_desimone@...>
wrote:

**


In addition to what Neil said, DOS doesn't ship with windows anymore, and
almost nothing with computers "just works".

--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin wrote:

DOS....?

It mostly has to do with there being a valid DNS/gateway service on the
subnet where your equipment resides. There has to be something to
translate the hostname into an actual IP address. If you're just

plugging

a bunch of gear into a switch, there may be nothing to resolve a

hostname

for you.

What OS are you running?



On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 2:30 PM, jbudz1977 wrote:

**


Why can't I just type ping (hostname) in my dos prompt and have it
respond? How come sometimes toolbox lets me connect by hostname and

other

times not so much? Why do I get a pop up every time I open toolbox

saying

it adjusted some settings to let me connect by hostname? With

computers it

just works, why not with Crestrons?

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--- In Crestron@..., Geoffrey Reynolds <greynlds@...> wrote:

Ugh. I don't think I'm all that old - I was just being a bit facetious.
And I realize it's not DOS anymore. Nor is the Xerox machine at the office
actually made by Xerox :).

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@...> wrote:

**


I don't think you need to be old to remember it. The DOS prompt was there
for a while when I started using computers. But it's not DOS anymore.

--- In Crestron@..., Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Yeah, it's pretty common for us old timers to refer to the Command Prompt
in the new OS's as a DOS Prompt.

Geoff

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Chris Niles
wrote:

DOS prompt == Windows Command Prompt
Sometimes I slip and call it that too.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 4:34 PM, "Anthony Desimone" <
anthony_desimone@>
wrote:

**


In addition to what Neil said, DOS doesn't ship with windows

anymore, and

almost nothing with computers "just works".

--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin wrote:

DOS....?

It mostly has to do with there being a valid DNS/gateway service

on the

subnet where your equipment resides. There has to be something to
translate the hostname into an actual IP address. If you're just

plugging

a bunch of gear into a switch, there may be nothing to resolve a

hostname

for you.

What OS are you running?



On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 2:30 PM, jbudz1977 wrote:

**


Why can't I just type ping (hostname) in my dos prompt and have

it

respond? How come sometimes toolbox lets me connect by hostname

and

other

times not so much? Why do I get a pop up every time I open

toolbox

saying

it adjusted some settings to let me connect by hostname? With

computers it

just works, why not with Crestrons?

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------------------------------

Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.

Yahoo!

Groups Links

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In Crestron@..., Geoffrey Reynolds <greynlds@...> wrote:

The point is "DOS Prompt" is commonly used these days as the general name
just like Xerox or Kleenex by lots of people. Just about every developer I
know still calls it the DOS Prompt and everyone knows that it's really the
Windows Command Prompt.

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@...> wrote:

**


Well, sorry for the pedantry, but I know someone who tends to constantly
use the wrong name for things (not a generic descriptor like Xerox or
Kleenex). It gets confusing and we're really in an industry where
specificity counts.

--- In Crestron@..., Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Ugh. I don't think I'm all that old - I was just being a bit facetious.
And I realize it's not DOS anymore. Nor is the Xerox machine at the

office

actually made by Xerox :).

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@> wrote:

**


I don't think you need to be old to remember it. The DOS prompt was

there

for a while when I started using computers. But it's not DOS anymore.

--- In Crestron@..., Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Yeah, it's pretty common for us old timers to refer to the Command

Prompt

in the new OS's as a DOS Prompt.

Geoff

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Chris Niles
wrote:

DOS prompt == Windows Command Prompt
Sometimes I slip and call it that too.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 4:34 PM, "Anthony Desimone" <
anthony_desimone@>
wrote:

**


In addition to what Neil said, DOS doesn't ship with windows

anymore, and

almost nothing with computers "just works".

--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin wrote:

DOS....?

It mostly has to do with there being a valid DNS/gateway

service

on the

subnet where your equipment resides. There has to be something

to

translate the hostname into an actual IP address. If you're

just

plugging

a bunch of gear into a switch, there may be nothing to resolve

a

hostname

for you.

What OS are you running?



On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 2:30 PM, jbudz1977 wrote:

**


Why can't I just type ping (hostname) in my dos prompt and

have

it

respond? How come sometimes toolbox lets me connect by

hostname

and

other

times not so much? Why do I get a pop up every time I open

toolbox

saying

it adjusted some settings to let me connect by hostname? With

computers it

just works, why not with Crestrons?

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------------------------------

Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and

drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in

the

Database area.

Yahoo!

Groups Links

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On 3/5/2013 3:58 PM, Anthony Desimone wrote:

My point is a dos prompt is substantially different from the windows
prompt in a way not at all analogous to Kleenex vs Puffs.

A Band-aid is a kind of adhesive bandage. DOS is not a kind of shell -
it's an operating system.

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>,
Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

The point is "DOS Prompt" is commonly used these days as the general

name

just like Xerox or Kleenex by lots of people. Just about every

developer I

know still calls it the DOS Prompt and everyone knows that it's

really the

Windows Command Prompt.

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@...> wrote:

**


Well, sorry for the pedantry, but I know someone who tends to

constantly

use the wrong name for things (not a generic descriptor like Xerox or
Kleenex). It gets confusing and we're really in an industry where
specificity counts.

--- In Crestron@...

<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>, Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Ugh. I don't think I'm all that old - I was just being a bit

facetious.

And I realize it's not DOS anymore. Nor is the Xerox machine at the

office

actually made by Xerox :).

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@> wrote:

**


I don't think you need to be old to remember it. The DOS

prompt was

there

for a while when I started using computers. But it's not DOS

anymore.

--- In Crestron@...

<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>, Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Yeah, it's pretty common for us old timers to refer to the

Command

Prompt

in the new OS's as a DOS Prompt.

Geoff

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Chris Niles
wrote:

DOS prompt == Windows Command Prompt
Sometimes I slip and call it that too.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 4:34 PM, "Anthony Desimone" <
anthony_desimone@>
wrote:

**


In addition to what Neil said, DOS doesn't ship with windows

anymore, and

almost nothing with computers "just works".

--- In Crestron@...

<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>, Neil Dorin wrote:

DOS....?

It mostly has to do with there being a valid DNS/gateway

service

on the

subnet where your equipment resides. There has to be

something

to

translate the hostname into an actual IP address. If

you're

just

plugging

a bunch of gear into a switch, there may be nothing to

resolve

a

hostname

for you.

What OS are you running?



On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 2:30 PM, jbudz1977 wrote:

**


Why can't I just type ping (hostname) in my dos

prompt and

have

it

respond? How come sometimes toolbox lets me connect by

hostname

and

other

times not so much? Why do I get a pop up every time

I open

toolbox

saying

it adjusted some settings to let me connect by

hostname? With

computers it

just works, why not with Crestrons?

------------------------------------

Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and

drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be

found in

the

Database area.

Yahoo!

Groups Links

--- In Crestron@..., Geoffrey Reynolds <greynlds@...> wrote:

The point is "DOS Prompt" is commonly used these days as the general name
just like Xerox or Kleenex by lots of people. Just about every developer I
know still calls it the DOS Prompt and everyone knows that it's really the
Windows Command Prompt.

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@...> wrote:

**


Well, sorry for the pedantry, but I know someone who tends to constantly
use the wrong name for things (not a generic descriptor like Xerox or
Kleenex). It gets confusing and we're really in an industry where
specificity counts.

--- In Crestron@..., Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Ugh. I don't think I'm all that old - I was just being a bit facetious.
And I realize it's not DOS anymore. Nor is the Xerox machine at the

office

actually made by Xerox :).

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@> wrote:

**


I don't think you need to be old to remember it. The DOS prompt was

there

for a while when I started using computers. But it's not DOS anymore.

--- In Crestron@..., Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Yeah, it's pretty common for us old timers to refer to the Command

Prompt

in the new OS's as a DOS Prompt.

Geoff

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Chris Niles
wrote:

DOS prompt == Windows Command Prompt
Sometimes I slip and call it that too.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 4:34 PM, "Anthony Desimone" <
anthony_desimone@>
wrote:

**


In addition to what Neil said, DOS doesn't ship with windows

anymore, and

almost nothing with computers "just works".

--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin wrote:

DOS....?

It mostly has to do with there being a valid DNS/gateway

service

on the

subnet where your equipment resides. There has to be something

to

translate the hostname into an actual IP address. If you're

just

plugging

a bunch of gear into a switch, there may be nothing to resolve

a

hostname

for you.

What OS are you running?



On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 2:30 PM, jbudz1977 wrote:

**


Why can't I just type ping (hostname) in my dos prompt and

have

it

respond? How come sometimes toolbox lets me connect by

hostname

and

other

times not so much? Why do I get a pop up every time I open

toolbox

saying

it adjusted some settings to let me connect by hostname? With

computers it

just works, why not with Crestrons?

------------------------------------

Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and

drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in

the

Database area.

Yahoo!

Groups Links

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Chris Niles
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 8:54 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

Yea. I've got to make sure I've got HIMEM.SYS configured correctly,
otherwise core3gui.exe crashes.

I also had to make a CONFIG.SYS menu so I could not load ATAPI.SYS and it
frees up enough memory under 640K to run better.

Do you guys think SMARTDRV.EXE would help compile times?

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 6:38 PM, "stainbow1" <stainbow1@...> wrote:

**


I still do most of my jobs in the old DOS format... tricky, but rewarding.
;-)

(jk for specificity)

Stephen D.

--- In Crestron@..., Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

The point is "DOS Prompt" is commonly used these days as the general name
just like Xerox or Kleenex by lots of people. Just about every developer

I

know still calls it the DOS Prompt and everyone knows that it's really

the

Windows Command Prompt.

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@...> wrote:

**


Well, sorry for the pedantry, but I know someone who tends to

constantly

use the wrong name for things (not a generic descriptor like Xerox or
Kleenex). It gets confusing and we're really in an industry where
specificity counts.

--- In Crestron@..., Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Ugh. I don't think I'm all that old - I was just being a bit

facetious.

And I realize it's not DOS anymore. Nor is the Xerox machine at the

office

actually made by Xerox :).

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@> wrote:

**


I don't think you need to be old to remember it. The DOS prompt was

there

for a while when I started using computers. But it's not DOS

anymore.

--- In Crestron@..., Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Yeah, it's pretty common for us old timers to refer to the

Command

Prompt

in the new OS's as a DOS Prompt.

Geoff

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Chris Niles
wrote:

DOS prompt == Windows Command Prompt
Sometimes I slip and call it that too.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 4:34 PM, "Anthony Desimone" <
anthony_desimone@>
wrote:

**


In addition to what Neil said, DOS doesn't ship with windows

anymore, and

almost nothing with computers "just works".

--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin wrote:

DOS....?

It mostly has to do with there being a valid DNS/gateway

service

on the

subnet where your equipment resides. There has to be

something

to

translate the hostname into an actual IP address. If you're

just

plugging

a bunch of gear into a switch, there may be nothing to

resolve

a

hostname

for you.

What OS are you running?



On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 2:30 PM, jbudz1977 wrote:

**


Why can't I just type ping (hostname) in my dos prompt

and

have

it

respond? How come sometimes toolbox lets me connect by

hostname

and

other

times not so much? Why do I get a pop up every time I

open

toolbox

saying

it adjusted some settings to let me connect by hostname?

With

computers it

just works, why not with Crestrons?

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------------------------------

Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and

drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be

found in

the

Database area.

Yahoo!

Groups Links

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
Yahoo! Groups Links

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Chris Niles
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 9:05 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

MFM or RLL?

I've got a 1x CD-ROM in the garage, with it's own controller card,
somewhere. I kept the computer it came in too, because it was pre-ATAPI and
I wanted to make sure I still had the drivers.

Who knows if it still boots.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 8:01 PM, "Lincoln King-Cliby" <lincoln@...>
wrote:

**


Ahhhhhhhhh....

I remember being so proud that I got Windows 95 installed on a 40 MB
Western Digital HD in a 386DX that I had cobbled together out of spare
parts (mumble)somewhere between 7th and 9th grade(mumble).

It was a 3.5" IDE drive but it was essentially double height

Heck, I'm not even sure I have any USB drives that small anymore....

All of a sudden I'm feeling really old

[And before anyone gives me crap, I think I still have 5.5" full heights
drive out of an 8086 I nursed back to life...]

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On
Behalf Of Chris Niles
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 8:54 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

Yea. I've got to make sure I've got HIMEM.SYS configured correctly,
otherwise core3gui.exe crashes.

I also had to make a CONFIG.SYS menu so I could not load ATAPI.SYS and it
frees up enough memory under 640K to run better.

Do you guys think SMARTDRV.EXE would help compile times?

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 6:38 PM, "stainbow1" stainbow1@...> wrote:

**


I still do most of my jobs in the old DOS format... tricky, but

rewarding.

;-)

(jk for specificity)

Stephen D.

--- In Crestron@..., Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

The point is "DOS Prompt" is commonly used these days as the general

name

just like Xerox or Kleenex by lots of people. Just about every

developer

I

know still calls it the DOS Prompt and everyone knows that it's really

the

Windows Command Prompt.

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@...> wrote:

**


Well, sorry for the pedantry, but I know someone who tends to

constantly

use the wrong name for things (not a generic descriptor like Xerox or
Kleenex). It gets confusing and we're really in an industry where
specificity counts.

--- In Crestron@..., Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Ugh. I don't think I'm all that old - I was just being a bit

facetious.

And I realize it's not DOS anymore. Nor is the Xerox machine at the

office

actually made by Xerox :).

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@> wrote:

**


I don't think you need to be old to remember it. The DOS prompt

was

there

for a while when I started using computers. But it's not DOS

anymore.

--- In Crestron@..., Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Yeah, it's pretty common for us old timers to refer to the

Command

Prompt

in the new OS's as a DOS Prompt.

Geoff

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Chris Niles
wrote:

DOS prompt == Windows Command Prompt
Sometimes I slip and call it that too.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 4:34 PM, "Anthony Desimone" <
anthony_desimone@>
wrote:

**


In addition to what Neil said, DOS doesn't ship with

windows

anymore, and

almost nothing with computers "just works".

--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin wrote:

DOS....?

It mostly has to do with there being a valid DNS/gateway

service

on the

subnet where your equipment resides. There has to be

something

to

translate the hostname into an actual IP address. If

you're

just

plugging

a bunch of gear into a switch, there may be nothing to

resolve

a

hostname

for you.

What OS are you running?



On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 2:30 PM, jbudz1977 wrote:

**


Why can't I just type ping (hostname) in my dos prompt

and

have

it

respond? How come sometimes toolbox lets me connect by

hostname

and

other

times not so much? Why do I get a pop up every time I

open

toolbox

saying

it adjusted some settings to let me connect by

hostname?

With

computers it

just works, why not with Crestrons?

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------------------------------

Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and

drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be

found in

the

Database area.

Yahoo!

Groups Links

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

------------------------------------




Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------------------------------



Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
Yahoo! Groups Links

On Mar 5, 2013, at 8:04 PM, "Lincoln King-Cliby" <lincoln@...<mailto:lincoln@...>> wrote:



Me thinks it was MFM.

Ah... the pre-ATAPI days were so much fun. I remember my first CD-ROM drive was some SoundBlaster-proprietary interface -- it used a 40 pin ribbon cable to the soundcard that "looked" IDE but it certainly wasn't...

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Chris Niles
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 9:05 PM
To: Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

MFM or RLL?

I've got a 1x CD-ROM in the garage, with it's own controller card,
somewhere. I kept the computer it came in too, because it was pre-ATAPI and
I wanted to make sure I still had the drivers.

Who knows if it still boots.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 8:01 PM, "Lincoln King-Cliby" lincoln@...<mailto:lincoln%40controlworks.com>>
wrote:

**


Ahhhhhhhhh....

I remember being so proud that I got Windows 95 installed on a 40 MB
Western Digital HD in a 386DX that I had cobbled together out of spare
parts (mumble)somewhere between 7th and 9th grade(mumble).

It was a 3.5" IDE drive but it was essentially double height

Heck, I'm not even sure I have any USB drives that small anymore....

All of a sudden I'm feeling really old

[And before anyone gives me crap, I think I still have 5.5" full heights
drive out of an 8086 I nursed back to life...]

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>] On
Behalf Of Chris Niles
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 8:54 PM
To: Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

Yea. I've got to make sure I've got HIMEM.SYS configured correctly,
otherwise core3gui.exe crashes.

I also had to make a CONFIG.SYS menu so I could not load ATAPI.SYS and it
frees up enough memory under 640K to run better.

Do you guys think SMARTDRV.EXE would help compile times?

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 6:38 PM, "stainbow1" stainbow1@...<mailto:stainbow1%40optonline.com>> wrote:

**


I still do most of my jobs in the old DOS format... tricky, but

rewarding.

;-)

(jk for specificity)

Stephen D.

--- In Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>, Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

The point is "DOS Prompt" is commonly used these days as the general

name

just like Xerox or Kleenex by lots of people. Just about every

developer

I

know still calls it the DOS Prompt and everyone knows that it's really

the

Windows Command Prompt.

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@...> wrote:

**


Well, sorry for the pedantry, but I know someone who tends to

constantly

use the wrong name for things (not a generic descriptor like Xerox or
Kleenex). It gets confusing and we're really in an industry where
specificity counts.

--- In Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>, Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Ugh. I don't think I'm all that old - I was just being a bit

facetious.

And I realize it's not DOS anymore. Nor is the Xerox machine at the

office

actually made by Xerox :).

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@> wrote:

**


I don't think you need to be old to remember it. The DOS prompt

was

there

for a while when I started using computers. But it's not DOS

anymore.

--- In Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>, Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Yeah, it's pretty common for us old timers to refer to the

Command

Prompt

in the new OS's as a DOS Prompt.

Geoff

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Chris Niles
wrote:

DOS prompt == Windows Command Prompt
Sometimes I slip and call it that too.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 4:34 PM, "Anthony Desimone" <
anthony_desimone@>
wrote:

**


In addition to what Neil said, DOS doesn't ship with

windows

anymore, and

almost nothing with computers "just works".

--- In Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>, Neil Dorin wrote:

DOS....?

It mostly has to do with there being a valid DNS/gateway

service

on the

subnet where your equipment resides. There has to be

something

to

translate the hostname into an actual IP address. If

you're

just

plugging

a bunch of gear into a switch, there may be nothing to

resolve

a

hostname

for you.

What OS are you running?



On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 2:30 PM, jbudz1977 wrote:

**


Why can't I just type ping (hostname) in my dos prompt

and

have

it

respond? How come sometimes toolbox lets me connect by

hostname

and

other

times not so much? Why do I get a pop up every time I

open

toolbox

saying

it adjusted some settings to let me connect by

hostname?

With

computers it

just works, why not with Crestrons?

------------------------------------

Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and

drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be

found in

the

Database area.

Yahoo!

Groups Links

------------------------------------




Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links

------------------------------------



Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
Yahoo! Groups Links

On Mar 5, 2013 8:23 PM, "Chapman Mays" <chapman@...> wrote:

**


You guys are still young. My first computer was a TRS-80 Model I with a
gutted B&W TV for a monitor and a cassette tape player to save and load
programs.

Great memories though!

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 5, 2013, at 8:04 PM, "Lincoln King-Cliby" lincoln@...
lincoln@...>> wrote:



Me thinks it was MFM.

Ah... the pre-ATAPI days were so much fun. I remember my first CD-ROM
drive was some SoundBlaster-proprietary interface -- it used a 40 pin
ribbon cable to the soundcard that "looked" IDE but it certainly wasn't...

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On
Behalf Of Chris Niles
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 9:05 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

MFM or RLL?

I've got a 1x CD-ROM in the garage, with it's own controller card,
somewhere. I kept the computer it came in too, because it was pre-ATAPI
and
I wanted to make sure I still had the drivers.

Who knows if it still boots.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 8:01 PM, "Lincoln King-Cliby" lincoln@...>
wrote:

**


Ahhhhhhhhh....

I remember being so proud that I got Windows 95 installed on a 40 MB
Western Digital HD in a 386DX that I had cobbled together out of spare
parts (mumble)somewhere between 7th and 9th grade(mumble).

It was a 3.5" IDE drive but it was essentially double height

Heck, I'm not even sure I have any USB drives that small anymore....

All of a sudden I'm feeling really old

[And before anyone gives me crap, I think I still have 5.5" full heights
drive out of an 8086 I nursed back to life...]

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On
Behalf Of Chris Niles
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 8:54 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

Yea. I've got to make sure I've got HIMEM.SYS configured correctly,
otherwise core3gui.exe crashes.

I also had to make a CONFIG.SYS menu so I could not load ATAPI.SYS and

it

frees up enough memory under 640K to run better.

Do you guys think SMARTDRV.EXE would help compile times?

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 6:38 PM, "stainbow1" stainbow1@...> wrote:

**


I still do most of my jobs in the old DOS format... tricky, but

rewarding.

;-)

(jk for specificity)

Stephen D.

--- In Crestron@..., Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

The point is "DOS Prompt" is commonly used these days as the general

name

just like Xerox or Kleenex by lots of people. Just about every

developer

I

know still calls it the DOS Prompt and everyone knows that it's

really

the

Windows Command Prompt.

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@...> wrote:

**


Well, sorry for the pedantry, but I know someone who tends to

constantly

use the wrong name for things (not a generic descriptor like Xerox

or

Kleenex). It gets confusing and we're really in an industry where
specificity counts.

--- In Crestron@..., Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Ugh. I don't think I'm all that old - I was just being a bit

facetious.

And I realize it's not DOS anymore. Nor is the Xerox machine at

the

office

actually made by Xerox :).

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@> wrote:

**


I don't think you need to be old to remember it. The DOS

prompt

was

there

for a while when I started using computers. But it's not DOS

anymore.

--- In Crestron@..., Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Yeah, it's pretty common for us old timers to refer to the

Command

Prompt

in the new OS's as a DOS Prompt.

Geoff

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Chris Niles
wrote:

DOS prompt == Windows Command Prompt
Sometimes I slip and call it that too.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 4:34 PM, "Anthony Desimone" <
anthony_desimone@>
wrote:

**


In addition to what Neil said, DOS doesn't ship with

windows

anymore, and

almost nothing with computers "just works".

--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin wrote:

DOS....?

It mostly has to do with there being a valid

DNS/gateway

service

on the

subnet where your equipment resides. There has to be

something

to

translate the hostname into an actual IP address. If

you're

just

plugging

a bunch of gear into a switch, there may be nothing to

resolve

a

hostname

for you.

What OS are you running?



On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 2:30 PM, jbudz1977 wrote:

**


Why can't I just type ping (hostname) in my dos

prompt

and

have

it

respond? How come sometimes toolbox lets me connect

by

hostname

and

other

times not so much? Why do I get a pop up every time

I

open

toolbox

saying

it adjusted some settings to let me connect by

hostname?

With

computers it

just works, why not with Crestrons?

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------------------------------

Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents,

and

drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be

found in

the

Database area.

Yahoo!

Groups Links

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

------------------------------------

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Database area.

Yahoo!

Groups Links

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------------------------------------




Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links

--- In Crestron@..., Chris Niles <chris.niles.crestron@...> wrote:

Well if we're playing that game, I had a TI-99 with the cassette tape
drive.

My first portable computer was a LASER50. BASIC, FTW.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 8:23 PM, "Chapman Mays" <chapman@...> wrote:

**


You guys are still young. My first computer was a TRS-80 Model I with a
gutted B&W TV for a monitor and a cassette tape player to save and load
programs.

Great memories though!

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 5, 2013, at 8:04 PM, "Lincoln King-Cliby" lincoln@...
lincoln@...>> wrote:



Me thinks it was MFM.

Ah... the pre-ATAPI days were so much fun. I remember my first CD-ROM
drive was some SoundBlaster-proprietary interface -- it used a 40 pin
ribbon cable to the soundcard that "looked" IDE but it certainly wasn't...

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On
Behalf Of Chris Niles
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 9:05 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

MFM or RLL?

I've got a 1x CD-ROM in the garage, with it's own controller card,
somewhere. I kept the computer it came in too, because it was pre-ATAPI
and
I wanted to make sure I still had the drivers.

Who knows if it still boots.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 8:01 PM, "Lincoln King-Cliby" lincoln@...>
wrote:

**


Ahhhhhhhhh....

I remember being so proud that I got Windows 95 installed on a 40 MB
Western Digital HD in a 386DX that I had cobbled together out of spare
parts (mumble)somewhere between 7th and 9th grade(mumble).

It was a 3.5" IDE drive but it was essentially double height

Heck, I'm not even sure I have any USB drives that small anymore....

All of a sudden I'm feeling really old

[And before anyone gives me crap, I think I still have 5.5" full heights
drive out of an 8086 I nursed back to life...]

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On
Behalf Of Chris Niles
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 8:54 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: What's the Deal With Hostnames?

Yea. I've got to make sure I've got HIMEM.SYS configured correctly,
otherwise core3gui.exe crashes.

I also had to make a CONFIG.SYS menu so I could not load ATAPI.SYS and

it

frees up enough memory under 640K to run better.

Do you guys think SMARTDRV.EXE would help compile times?

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 6:38 PM, "stainbow1" stainbow1@...> wrote:

**


I still do most of my jobs in the old DOS format... tricky, but

rewarding.

;-)

(jk for specificity)

Stephen D.

--- In Crestron@..., Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

The point is "DOS Prompt" is commonly used these days as the general

name

just like Xerox or Kleenex by lots of people. Just about every

developer

I

know still calls it the DOS Prompt and everyone knows that it's

really

the

Windows Command Prompt.

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@> wrote:

**


Well, sorry for the pedantry, but I know someone who tends to

constantly

use the wrong name for things (not a generic descriptor like Xerox

or

Kleenex). It gets confusing and we're really in an industry where
specificity counts.

--- In Crestron@..., Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Ugh. I don't think I'm all that old - I was just being a bit

facetious.

And I realize it's not DOS anymore. Nor is the Xerox machine at

the

office

actually made by Xerox :).

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Anthony Desimone <
anthony_desimone@> wrote:

**


I don't think you need to be old to remember it. The DOS

prompt

was

there

for a while when I started using computers. But it's not DOS

anymore.

--- In Crestron@..., Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

Yeah, it's pretty common for us old timers to refer to the

Command

Prompt

in the new OS's as a DOS Prompt.

Geoff

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Chris Niles
wrote:

DOS prompt == Windows Command Prompt
Sometimes I slip and call it that too.

Chris
On Mar 5, 2013 4:34 PM, "Anthony Desimone" <
anthony_desimone@>
wrote:

**


In addition to what Neil said, DOS doesn't ship with

windows

anymore, and

almost nothing with computers "just works".

--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin wrote:

DOS....?

It mostly has to do with there being a valid

DNS/gateway

service

on the

subnet where your equipment resides. There has to be

something

to

translate the hostname into an actual IP address. If

you're

just

plugging

a bunch of gear into a switch, there may be nothing to

resolve

a

hostname

for you.

What OS are you running?



On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 2:30 PM, jbudz1977 wrote:

**


Why can't I just type ping (hostname) in my dos

prompt

and

have

it

respond? How come sometimes toolbox lets me connect

by

hostname

and

other

times not so much? Why do I get a pop up every time

I

open

toolbox

saying

it adjusted some settings to let me connect by

hostname?

With

computers it

just works, why not with Crestrons?

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------------------------------

Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents,

and

drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be

found in

the

Database area.

Yahoo!

Groups Links

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Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.

Yahoo!

Groups Links

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------------------------------------




Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links