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We're having trouble with finding a reliable process to get the DM presentation outputs into our production systems to work reliable. Our current system design is below.
1) Presentation inputs into the DM matrix via DM plates, or, possibly via Extron plates to a DM-MD6x6.
2) DM-RMC-SCALER-C HDMI output into an Extron HAE 100 to de-embed the audio from the presentation source. (resolution scaled to 1080i/30, the native resolution of the broadcast system)
3) HDMI output of the HAE 100 to an AJA HA5 to covert to HD-SDI (this device is NOT HDCP compliant).
The problem we have is that when we switch HDCP encrypted content through the system, the HAE 100 outputs green screen like we would expect, since the HA5/production switcher is not HDCP compliant. But, the issue is that when non-HDCP content is then switched through the system the HAE 100 still does not allow the content through, it's still green screen. When you reboot the HAE 100 it works fine again, until HDCP content, IE a MAC computer, is attached to the system.
Another interesting twist is that when we use a Quantum Data HDMI/HDCP test instrument to generate the signal into the HAE 100 --> AJA HA5 --> HD Star, the HAE 100 functions perfectly. You enable/disable the HDCP key requirements on the Quantum Data generator and you see the HDCP indicator on the HAE 100 input display correctly, green screen on the output when unlit, and video pass-through when lit.
Out current solution is to make the entire DM system non-HDCP compliant, which really sucks, because every single device in these systems is compliant, except the production input.
The questions are:
1) Have any of you experienced this issue with the DM/SCALERC output into the HAE 100?
2) Do you have another solution that does the same thing design wise, but works properly?
3) Is there a way to change the way the digital output of an Apple PC to always be NON-HDCP compliant, this is really the biggest problem. I don't care if I can't play a BluRay on the second display output, but I should be able to see the damn desktop.
Thanks for looking. :)
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I do realize I could use the DMCI with DMC-HD-DSP card to do the same thing, but it's just about twice the price.
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We're having trouble with finding a reliable process to get the DM presentation outputs into our production systems to work reliable. Our current system design is below.
1) Presentation inputs into the DM matrix via DM plates, or, possibly via Extron plates to a DM-MD6x6.
2) DM-RMC-SCALER-C HDMI output into an Extron HAE 100 to de-embed the audio from the presentation source. (resolution scaled to 1080i/30, the native resolution of the broadcast system)
3) HDMI output of the HAE 100 to an AJA HA5 to covert to HD-SDI (this device is NOT HDCP compliant).
The problem we have is that when we switch HDCP encrypted content through the system, the HAE 100 outputs green screen like we would expect, since the HA5/production switcher is not HDCP compliant. But, the issue is that when non-HDCP content is then switched through the system the HAE 100 still does not allow the content through, it's still green screen. When you reboot the HAE 100 it works fine again, until HDCP content, IE a MAC computer, is attached to the system.
Another interesting twist is that when we use a Quantum Data HDMI/HDCP test instrument to generate the signal into the HAE 100 --> AJA HA5 --> HD Star, the HAE 100 functions perfectly. You enable/disable the HDCP key requirements on the Quantum Data generator and you see the HDCP indicator on the HAE 100 input display correctly, green screen on the output when unlit, and video pass-through when lit.
Out current solution is to make the entire DM system non-HDCP compliant, which really sucks, because every single device in these systems is compliant, except the production input.
The questions are:
1) Have any of you experienced this issue with the DM/SCALERC output into the HAE 100?
2) Do you have another solution that does the same thing design wise, but works properly?
3) Is there a way to change the way the digital output of an Apple PC to always be NON-HDCP compliant, this is really the biggest problem. I don't care if I can't play a BluRay on the second display output, but I should be able to see the damn desktop.
Thanks for looking. :)
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It sounds to me like a problem with the Extron HAE 100, and the negotiaion between HDCP Compliance and non compliance. Why don't you try extracting the audio from the HD-SDI signal. The HA 5 will put the 8 channels of audio into SDI then extract the audio with an HD10AMA. That will push the audio signal past the HDCP check.Just a suggestion
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We're having trouble with finding a reliable process to get the DM presentation outputs into our production systems to work reliable. Our current system design is below.
1) Presentation inputs into the DM matrix via DM plates, or, possibly via Extron plates to a DM-MD6x6.
2) DM-RMC-SCALER-C HDMI output into an Extron HAE 100 to de-embed the audio from the presentation source. (resolution scaled to 1080i/30, the native resolution of the broadcast system)
3) HDMI output of the HAE 100 to an AJA HA5 to covert to HD-SDI (this device is NOT HDCP compliant).
The problem we have is that when we switch HDCP encrypted content through the system, the HAE 100 outputs green screen like we would expect, since the HA5/production switcher is not HDCP compliant. But, the issue is that when non-HDCP content is then switched through the system the HAE 100 still does not allow the content through, it's still green screen. When you reboot the HAE 100 it works fine again, until HDCP content, IE a MAC computer, is attached to the system.
Another interesting twist is that when we use a Quantum Data HDMI/HDCP test instrument to generate the signal into the HAE 100 --> AJA HA5 --> HD Star, the HAE 100 functions perfectly. You enable/disable the HDCP key requirements on the Quantum Data generator and you see the HDCP indicator on the HAE 100 input display correctly, green screen on the output when unlit, and video pass-through when lit.
Out current solution is to make the entire DM system non-HDCP compliant, which really sucks, because every single device in these systems is compliant, except the production input.
The questions are:
1) Have any of you experienced this issue with the DM/SCALERC output into the HAE 100?
2) Do you have another solution that does the same thing design wise, but works properly?
3) Is there a way to change the way the digital output of an Apple PC to always be NON-HDCP compliant, this is really the biggest problem. I don't care if I can't play a BluRay on the second display output, but I should be able to see the damn desktop.
Thanks for looking. :)
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The DM-RMC-Scaler-C is hooked to the output of the 6x6?
If so can't you breakaway the audio from the video for that output and not use the Extron HAE 100? That is if the Extron HAE is just taking the audio out of the HDMI output.
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We're having trouble with finding a reliable process to get the DM presentation outputs into our production systems to work reliable. Our current system design is below.
1) Presentation inputs into the DM matrix via DM plates, or, possibly via Extron plates to a DM-MD6x6.
2) DM-RMC-SCALER-C HDMI output into an Extron HAE 100 to de-embed the audio from the presentation source. (resolution scaled to 1080i/30, the native resolution of the broadcast system)
3) HDMI output of the HAE 100 to an AJA HA5 to covert to HD-SDI (this device is NOT HDCP compliant).
The problem we have is that when we switch HDCP encrypted content through the system, the HAE 100 outputs green screen like we would expect, since the HA5/production switcher is not HDCP compliant. But, the issue is that when non-HDCP content is then switched through the system the HAE 100 still does not allow the content through, it's still green screen. When you reboot the HAE 100 it works fine again, until HDCP content, IE a MAC computer, is attached to the system.
Another interesting twist is that when we use a Quantum Data HDMI/HDCP test instrument to generate the signal into the HAE 100 --> AJA HA5 --> HD Star, the HAE 100 functions perfectly. You enable/disable the HDCP key requirements on the Quantum Data generator and you see the HDCP indicator on the HAE 100 input display correctly, green screen on the output when unlit, and video pass-through when lit.
Out current solution is to make the entire DM system non-HDCP compliant, which really sucks, because every single device in these systems is compliant, except the production input.
The questions are:
1) Have any of you experienced this issue with the DM/SCALERC output into the HAE 100?
2) Do you have another solution that does the same thing design wise, but works properly?
3) Is there a way to change the way the digital output of an Apple PC to always be NON-HDCP compliant, this is really the biggest problem. I don't care if I can't play a BluRay on the second display output, but I should be able to see the damn desktop.
Thanks for looking. :)
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So for the HAE-100 issue...
What happens if you momentarily break the route (e.g. switch to 0d) between changing sources.
E.g. HDCP Required MAC --> 0 --> Non HDCP PC
Also, I'm not sure what the cost delta is, but if all you need the HAE 100 for is audio deembedding, why not use a DM-RMC-200-C instead of the DM-RMC-SCALER-C + HAE100?
The only (potential) problem I see is that the RMC-200-C only does line-level outputs as unbalanced, but the cost/trouble savings in not having to deal with a 2nd piece of hardware and the related space/cabling may be worth it.
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Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
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Subject: [Crestron] DM outputs to a production system, story and questions. :-)
We're having trouble with finding a reliable process to get the DM presentation outputs into our production systems to work reliable. Our current system design is below.
1) Presentation inputs into the DM matrix via DM plates, or, possibly via Extron plates to a DM-MD6x6.
2) DM-RMC-SCALER-C HDMI output into an Extron HAE 100 to de-embed the audio from the presentation source. (resolution scaled to 1080i/30, the native resolution of the broadcast system)
3) HDMI output of the HAE 100 to an AJA HA5 to covert to HD-SDI (this device is NOT HDCP compliant).
The problem we have is that when we switch HDCP encrypted content through the system, the HAE 100 outputs green screen like we would expect, since the HA5/production switcher is not HDCP compliant. But, the issue is that when non-HDCP content is then switched through the system the HAE 100 still does not allow the content through, it's still green screen. When you reboot the HAE 100 it works fine again, until HDCP content, IE a MAC computer, is attached to the system.
Another interesting twist is that when we use a Quantum Data HDMI/HDCP test instrument to generate the signal into the HAE 100 --> AJA HA5 --> HD Star, the HAE 100 functions perfectly. You enable/disable the HDCP key requirements on the Quantum Data generator and you see the HDCP indicator on the HAE 100 input display correctly, green screen on the output when unlit, and video pass-through when lit.
Out current solution is to make the entire DM system non-HDCP compliant, which really sucks, because every single device in these systems is compliant, except the production input.
The questions are:
1) Have any of you experienced this issue with the DM/SCALERC output into the HAE 100?
2) Do you have another solution that does the same thing design wise, but works properly?
3) Is there a way to change the way the digital output of an Apple PC to always be NON-HDCP compliant, this is really the biggest problem. I don't care if I can't play a BluRay on the second display output, but I should be able to see the damn desktop.
Thanks for looking. :)
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That's a good point on the 200, I'll get one of those on order for a test. Initializing 0d never came to mind, I'll give that a shot too.
Thanks.
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So for the HAE-100 issue...
What happens if you momentarily break the route (e.g. switch to 0d) between changing sources.
E.g. HDCP Required MAC --> 0 --> Non HDCP PC
Also, I'm not sure what the cost delta is, but if all you need the HAE 100 for is audio deembedding, why not use a DM-RMC-200-C instead of the DM-RMC-SCALER-C + HAE100?
The only (potential) problem I see is that the RMC-200-C only does line-level outputs as unbalanced, but the cost/trouble savings in not having to deal with a 2nd piece of hardware and the related space/cabling may be worth it.
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Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 | F: 440.449.1106 | I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer
-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of matt_rasmussen_2000
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:39 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] DM outputs to a production system, story and questions. :-)
We're having trouble with finding a reliable process to get the DM presentation outputs into our production systems to work reliable. Our current system design is below.
1) Presentation inputs into the DM matrix via DM plates, or, possibly via Extron plates to a DM-MD6x6.
2) DM-RMC-SCALER-C HDMI output into an Extron HAE 100 to de-embed the audio from the presentation source. (resolution scaled to 1080i/30, the native resolution of the broadcast system)
3) HDMI output of the HAE 100 to an AJA HA5 to covert to HD-SDI (this device is NOT HDCP compliant).
The problem we have is that when we switch HDCP encrypted content through the system, the HAE 100 outputs green screen like we would expect, since the HA5/production switcher is not HDCP compliant. But, the issue is that when non-HDCP content is then switched through the system the HAE 100 still does not allow the content through, it's still green screen. When you reboot the HAE 100 it works fine again, until HDCP content, IE a MAC computer, is attached to the system.
Another interesting twist is that when we use a Quantum Data HDMI/HDCP test instrument to generate the signal into the HAE 100 --> AJA HA5 --> HD Star, the HAE 100 functions perfectly. You enable/disable the HDCP key requirements on the Quantum Data generator and you see the HDCP indicator on the HAE 100 input display correctly, green screen on the output when unlit, and video pass-through when lit.
Out current solution is to make the entire DM system non-HDCP compliant, which really sucks, because every single device in these systems is compliant, except the production input.
The questions are:
1) Have any of you experienced this issue with the DM/SCALERC output into the HAE 100?
2) Do you have another solution that does the same thing design wise, but works properly?
3) Is there a way to change the way the digital output of an Apple PC to always be NON-HDCP compliant, this is really the biggest problem. I don't care if I can't play a BluRay on the second display output, but I should be able to see the damn desktop.
Thanks for looking. :)
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Have you tried the Crestron HD-DA-2? It does audio de-embedding, and cost about 40% less than the HAE.
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To: "'Crestron@...'" <Crestron@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 4:52 PM
Subject: RE: [Crestron] DM outputs to a production system, story and questions. :-)
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So for the HAE-100 issue...
What happens if you momentarily break the route (e.g. switch to 0d) between changing sources.
E.g. HDCP Required MAC --> 0 --> Non HDCP PC
Also, I'm not sure what the cost delta is, but if all you need the HAE 100 for is audio deembedding, why not use a DM-RMC-200-C instead of the DM-RMC-SCALER-C + HAE100?
The only (potential) problem I see is that the RMC-200-C only does line-level outputs as unbalanced, but the cost/trouble savings in not having to deal with a 2nd piece of hardware and the related space/cabling may be worth it.
--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 | F: 440.449.1106 | I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer
-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of matt_rasmussen_2000
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:39 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] DM outputs to a production system, story and questions. :-)
We're having trouble with finding a reliable process to get the DM presentation outputs into our production systems to work reliable. Our current system design is below.
1) Presentation inputs into the DM matrix via DM plates, or, possibly via Extron plates to a DM-MD6x6.
2) DM-RMC-SCALER-C HDMI output into an Extron HAE 100 to de-embed the audio from the presentation source. (resolution scaled to 1080i/30, the native resolution of the broadcast system)
3) HDMI output of the HAE 100 to an AJA HA5 to covert to HD-SDI (this device is NOT HDCP compliant).
The problem we have is that when we switch HDCP encrypted content through the system, the HAE 100 outputs green screen like we would expect, since the HA5/production switcher is not HDCP compliant. But, the issue is that when non-HDCP content is then switched through the system the HAE 100 still does not allow the content through, it's still green screen. When you reboot the HAE 100 it works fine again, until HDCP content, IE a MAC computer, is attached to the system.
Another interesting twist is that when we use a Quantum Data HDMI/HDCP test instrument to generate the signal into the HAE 100 --> AJA HA5 --> HD Star, the HAE 100 functions perfectly. You enable/disable the HDCP key requirements on the Quantum Data generator and you see the HDCP indicator on the HAE 100 input display correctly, green screen on the output when unlit, and video pass-through when lit.
Out current solution is to make the entire DM system non-HDCP compliant, which really sucks, because every single device in these systems is compliant, except the production input.
The questions are:
1) Have any of you experienced this issue with the DM/SCALERC output into the HAE 100?
2) Do you have another solution that does the same thing design wise, but works properly?
3) Is there a way to change the way the digital output of an Apple PC to always be NON-HDCP compliant, this is really the biggest problem. I don't care if I can't play a BluRay on the second display output, but I should be able to see the damn desktop.
Thanks for looking. :)
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I'd be very curious to see what your results are with the "broken route" approach.
In the days when analog video was all the rage (wow do I feel old now) you had to do that for some devices with "multiformat" inputs to realize that the signal changed, something like "Oh yep, I'm getting RGBHV, (change to composite), what the hell? This is some strange looking RGBHV but hey, I'll keep displaying it as RGBHV" whereas with the broken route it was "Yep I'm getting RGBHV (change to nothing) Hey, where's the video? (change to composite) Oh, hey, this is composite video? OK"
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-----Original Message----- From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of matt_rasmussen_2000 Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 6:09 PM To: Crestron@... Subject: [Crestron] Re: DM outputs to a production system, story and questions. :-) That's a good point on the 200, I'll get one of those on order for a test. Initializing 0d never came to mind, I'll give that a shot too. Thanks. --- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:
So for the HAE-100 issue...
What happens if you momentarily break the route (e.g. switch to 0d) between changing sources.
E.g. HDCP Required MAC --> 0 --> Non HDCP PC
Also, I'm not sure what the cost delta is, but if all you need the HAE 100 for is audio deembedding, why not use a DM-RMC-200-C instead of the DM-RMC-SCALER-C + HAE100?
The only (potential) problem I see is that the RMC-200-C only does line-level outputs as unbalanced, but the cost/trouble savings in not having to deal with a 2nd piece of hardware and the related space/cabling may be worth it.
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Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 | F: 440.449.1106 | I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer
-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of matt_rasmussen_2000
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:39 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] DM outputs to a production system, story and questions. :-)
We're having trouble with finding a reliable process to get the DM presentation outputs into our production systems to work reliable. Our current system design is below.
1) Presentation inputs into the DM matrix via DM plates, or, possibly via Extron plates to a DM-MD6x6.
2) DM-RMC-SCALER-C HDMI output into an Extron HAE 100 to de-embed the audio from the presentation source. (resolution scaled to 1080i/30, the native resolution of the broadcast system)
3) HDMI output of the HAE 100 to an AJA HA5 to covert to HD-SDI (this device is NOT HDCP compliant).
The problem we have is that when we switch HDCP encrypted content through the system, the HAE 100 outputs green screen like we would expect, since the HA5/production switcher is not HDCP compliant. But, the issue is that when non-HDCP content is then switched through the system the HAE 100 still does not allow the content through, it's still green screen. When you reboot the HAE 100 it works fine again, until HDCP content, IE a MAC computer, is attached to the system.
Another interesting twist is that when we use a Quantum Data HDMI/HDCP test instrument to generate the signal into the HAE 100 --> AJA HA5 --> HD Star, the HAE 100 functions perfectly. You enable/disable the HDCP key requirements on the Quantum Data generator and you see the HDCP indicator on the HAE 100 input display correctly, green screen on the output when unlit, and video pass-through when lit.
Out current solution is to make the entire DM system non-HDCP compliant, which really sucks, because every single device in these systems is compliant, except the production input.
The questions are:
1) Have any of you experienced this issue with the DM/SCALERC output into the HAE 100?
2) Do you have another solution that does the same thing design wise, but works properly?
3) Is there a way to change the way the digital output of an Apple PC to always be NON-HDCP compliant, this is really the biggest problem. I don't care if I can't play a BluRay on the second display output, but I should be able to see the damn desktop.
Thanks for looking. :)
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No, I haven't but it's a viable option too, save about a 100 bucks from a pure RMC-200-C, not really worth it if the 200 solution works well.
I have used the HD-Scaler in the past with only HDMI switching systems, to scale the video to 1080i/30 for production input before going to the AJA HA5 and had weird video problems with them. Although, don't have the same issues with scaling out of DM Scaling receivers, I'm sure it's the same circuit...it's weird.
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Have you tried the Crestron HD-DA-2? It does audio de-embedding, and cost about 40% less than the HAE.
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From: Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...>
To: "'Crestron@...'" <Crestron@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 4:52 PM
Subject: RE: [Crestron] DM outputs to a production system, story and questions. :-)
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So for the HAE-100 issue...
What happens if you momentarily break the route (e.g. switch to 0d) between changing sources.
E.g. HDCP Required MAC --> 0 --> Non HDCP PC
Also, I'm not sure what the cost delta is, but if all you need the HAE 100 for is audio deembedding, why not use a DM-RMC-200-C instead of the DM-RMC-SCALER-C + HAE100?
The only (potential) problem I see is that the RMC-200-C only does line-level outputs as unbalanced, but the cost/trouble savings in not having to deal with a 2nd piece of hardware and the related space/cabling may be worth it.
--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 | F: 440.449.1106 | I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer
-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of matt_rasmussen_2000
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:39 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] DM outputs to a production system, story and questions. :-)
We're having trouble with finding a reliable process to get the DM presentation outputs into our production systems to work reliable. Our current system design is below.
1) Presentation inputs into the DM matrix via DM plates, or, possibly via Extron plates to a DM-MD6x6.
2) DM-RMC-SCALER-C HDMI output into an Extron HAE 100 to de-embed the audio from the presentation source. (resolution scaled to 1080i/30, the native resolution of the broadcast system)
3) HDMI output of the HAE 100 to an AJA HA5 to covert to HD-SDI (this device is NOT HDCP compliant).
The problem we have is that when we switch HDCP encrypted content through the system, the HAE 100 outputs green screen like we would expect, since the HA5/production switcher is not HDCP compliant. But, the issue is that when non-HDCP content is then switched through the system the HAE 100 still does not allow the content through, it's still green screen. When you reboot the HAE 100 it works fine again, until HDCP content, IE a MAC computer, is attached to the system.
Another interesting twist is that when we use a Quantum Data HDMI/HDCP test instrument to generate the signal into the HAE 100 --> AJA HA5 --> HD Star, the HAE 100 functions perfectly. You enable/disable the HDCP key requirements on the Quantum Data generator and you see the HDCP indicator on the HAE 100 input display correctly, green screen on the output when unlit, and video pass-through when lit.
Out current solution is to make the entire DM system non-HDCP compliant, which really sucks, because every single device in these systems is compliant, except the production input.
The questions are:
1) Have any of you experienced this issue with the DM/SCALERC output into the HAE 100?
2) Do you have another solution that does the same thing design wise, but works properly?
3) Is there a way to change the way the digital output of an Apple PC to always be NON-HDCP compliant, this is really the biggest problem. I don't care if I can't play a BluRay on the second display output, but I should be able to see the damn desktop.
Thanks for looking. :)
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In reply to a few of these types of messages. It's not about the audio de-embedding, it's about the lack of video when switching between HDCP compliant and non-encrypted signals to a non-HDCP compliant video destination (HA5).
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It sounds to me like a problem with the Extron HAE 100, and the negotiaion between HDCP Compliance and non compliance. Why don't you try extracting the audio from the HD-SDI signal. The HA 5 will put the 8 channels of audio into SDI then extract the audio with an HD10AMA. That will push the audio signal past the HDCP check.Just a suggestion
--- In Crestron@..., "matt_rasmussen_2000" <mjrtoo@> wrote:
We're having trouble with finding a reliable process to get the DM presentation outputs into our production systems to work reliable. Our current system design is below.
1) Presentation inputs into the DM matrix via DM plates, or, possibly via Extron plates to a DM-MD6x6.
2) DM-RMC-SCALER-C HDMI output into an Extron HAE 100 to de-embed the audio from the presentation source. (resolution scaled to 1080i/30, the native resolution of the broadcast system)
3) HDMI output of the HAE 100 to an AJA HA5 to covert to HD-SDI (this device is NOT HDCP compliant).
The problem we have is that when we switch HDCP encrypted content through the system, the HAE 100 outputs green screen like we would expect, since the HA5/production switcher is not HDCP compliant. But, the issue is that when non-HDCP content is then switched through the system the HAE 100 still does not allow the content through, it's still green screen. When you reboot the HAE 100 it works fine again, until HDCP content, IE a MAC computer, is attached to the system.
Another interesting twist is that when we use a Quantum Data HDMI/HDCP test instrument to generate the signal into the HAE 100 --> AJA HA5 --> HD Star, the HAE 100 functions perfectly. You enable/disable the HDCP key requirements on the Quantum Data generator and you see the HDCP indicator on the HAE 100 input display correctly, green screen on the output when unlit, and video pass-through when lit.
Out current solution is to make the entire DM system non-HDCP compliant, which really sucks, because every single device in these systems is compliant, except the production input.
The questions are:
1) Have any of you experienced this issue with the DM/SCALERC output into the HAE 100?
2) Do you have another solution that does the same thing design wise, but works properly?
3) Is there a way to change the way the digital output of an Apple PC to always be NON-HDCP compliant, this is really the biggest problem. I don't care if I can't play a BluRay on the second display output, but I should be able to see the damn desktop.
Thanks for looking. :)
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I'll give it a go, but I did change between direct input selection and auto selection, and removing all signals during auto selection all with no love. Not sure if all that is similar to actually sending 0d, but one would think that in auto mode and no signals present would be the same.
But, one never knows with this stuff. :)
(but 5d is disable, not 0d, that's auto mode, but we all knew what you meant)
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I'd be very curious to see what your results are with the "broken route" approach.
In the days when analog video was all the rage (wow do I feel old now) you had to do that for some devices with "multiformat" inputs to realize that the signal changed, something like "Oh yep, I'm getting RGBHV, (change to composite), what the hell? This is some strange looking RGBHV but hey, I'll keep displaying it as RGBHV" whereas with the broken route it was "Yep I'm getting RGBHV (change to nothing) Hey, where's the video? (change to composite) Oh, hey, this is composite video? OK"
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From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of matt_rasmussen_2000
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 6:09 PM
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That's a good point on the 200, I'll get one of those on order for a test. Initializing 0d never came to mind, I'll give that a shot too.
Thanks.
--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@> wrote:
So for the HAE-100 issue...
What happens if you momentarily break the route (e.g. switch to 0d) between changing sources.
E.g. HDCP Required MAC --> 0 --> Non HDCP PC
Also, I'm not sure what the cost delta is, but if all you need the HAE 100 for is audio deembedding, why not use a DM-RMC-200-C instead of the DM-RMC-SCALER-C + HAE100?
The only (potential) problem I see is that the RMC-200-C only does line-level outputs as unbalanced, but the cost/trouble savings in not having to deal with a 2nd piece of hardware and the related space/cabling may be worth it.
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Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 | F: 440.449.1106 | I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer
-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of matt_rasmussen_2000
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:39 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] DM outputs to a production system, story and questions. :-)
We're having trouble with finding a reliable process to get the DM presentation outputs into our production systems to work reliable. Our current system design is below.
1) Presentation inputs into the DM matrix via DM plates, or, possibly via Extron plates to a DM-MD6x6.
2) DM-RMC-SCALER-C HDMI output into an Extron HAE 100 to de-embed the audio from the presentation source. (resolution scaled to 1080i/30, the native resolution of the broadcast system)
3) HDMI output of the HAE 100 to an AJA HA5 to covert to HD-SDI (this device is NOT HDCP compliant).
The problem we have is that when we switch HDCP encrypted content through the system, the HAE 100 outputs green screen like we would expect, since the HA5/production switcher is not HDCP compliant. But, the issue is that when non-HDCP content is then switched through the system the HAE 100 still does not allow the content through, it's still green screen. When you reboot the HAE 100 it works fine again, until HDCP content, IE a MAC computer, is attached to the system.
Another interesting twist is that when we use a Quantum Data HDMI/HDCP test instrument to generate the signal into the HAE 100 --> AJA HA5 --> HD Star, the HAE 100 functions perfectly. You enable/disable the HDCP key requirements on the Quantum Data generator and you see the HDCP indicator on the HAE 100 input display correctly, green screen on the output when unlit, and video pass-through when lit.
Out current solution is to make the entire DM system non-HDCP compliant, which really sucks, because every single device in these systems is compliant, except the production input.
The questions are:
1) Have any of you experienced this issue with the DM/SCALERC output into the HAE 100?
2) Do you have another solution that does the same thing design wise, but works properly?
3) Is there a way to change the way the digital output of an Apple PC to always be NON-HDCP compliant, this is really the biggest problem. I don't care if I can't play a BluRay on the second display output, but I should be able to see the damn desktop.
Thanks for looking. :)
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This thread reminds me of a DM system I took over from another company that had a Extron audio de embedder. It worked really flakey till I updated its firmware. Have you tried to update?
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Yup, first thing I tried.
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This thread reminds me of a DM system I took over from another company that had a Extron audio de embedder. It worked really flakey till I updated its firmware. Have you tried to update?
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The 0d approach on the DM-MD6x6 didn't work with the HAE100, it just stayed green until I reset the HAE100.
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I'd be very curious to see what your results are with the "broken route" approach.
In the days when analog video was all the rage (wow do I feel old now) you had to do that for some devices with "multiformat" inputs to realize that the signal changed, something like "Oh yep, I'm getting RGBHV, (change to composite), what the hell? This is some strange looking RGBHV but hey, I'll keep displaying it as RGBHV" whereas with the broken route it was "Yep I'm getting RGBHV (change to nothing) Hey, where's the video? (change to composite) Oh, hey, this is composite video? OK"
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Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer
-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of matt_rasmussen_2000
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 6:09 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: DM outputs to a production system, story and questions. :-)
That's a good point on the 200, I'll get one of those on order for a test. Initializing 0d never came to mind, I'll give that a shot too.
Thanks.
--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@> wrote:
So for the HAE-100 issue...
What happens if you momentarily break the route (e.g. switch to 0d) between changing sources.
E.g. HDCP Required MAC --> 0 --> Non HDCP PC
Also, I'm not sure what the cost delta is, but if all you need the HAE 100 for is audio deembedding, why not use a DM-RMC-200-C instead of the DM-RMC-SCALER-C + HAE100?
The only (potential) problem I see is that the RMC-200-C only does line-level outputs as unbalanced, but the cost/trouble savings in not having to deal with a 2nd piece of hardware and the related space/cabling may be worth it.
--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 | F: 440.449.1106 | I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer
-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of matt_rasmussen_2000
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:39 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] DM outputs to a production system, story and questions. :-)
We're having trouble with finding a reliable process to get the DM presentation outputs into our production systems to work reliable. Our current system design is below.
1) Presentation inputs into the DM matrix via DM plates, or, possibly via Extron plates to a DM-MD6x6.
2) DM-RMC-SCALER-C HDMI output into an Extron HAE 100 to de-embed the audio from the presentation source. (resolution scaled to 1080i/30, the native resolution of the broadcast system)
3) HDMI output of the HAE 100 to an AJA HA5 to covert to HD-SDI (this device is NOT HDCP compliant).
The problem we have is that when we switch HDCP encrypted content through the system, the HAE 100 outputs green screen like we would expect, since the HA5/production switcher is not HDCP compliant. But, the issue is that when non-HDCP content is then switched through the system the HAE 100 still does not allow the content through, it's still green screen. When you reboot the HAE 100 it works fine again, until HDCP content, IE a MAC computer, is attached to the system.
Another interesting twist is that when we use a Quantum Data HDMI/HDCP test instrument to generate the signal into the HAE 100 --> AJA HA5 --> HD Star, the HAE 100 functions perfectly. You enable/disable the HDCP key requirements on the Quantum Data generator and you see the HDCP indicator on the HAE 100 input display correctly, green screen on the output when unlit, and video pass-through when lit.
Out current solution is to make the entire DM system non-HDCP compliant, which really sucks, because every single device in these systems is compliant, except the production input.
The questions are:
1) Have any of you experienced this issue with the DM/SCALERC output into the HAE 100?
2) Do you have another solution that does the same thing design wise, but works properly?
3) Is there a way to change the way the digital output of an Apple PC to always be NON-HDCP compliant, this is really the biggest problem. I don't care if I can't play a BluRay on the second display output, but I should be able to see the damn desktop.
Thanks for looking. :)
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Have ever tried to see what happens to the audio output when you have a non-HDCP compliant device on the ouptut of the DA? Does it stay active?
I tried the DMCI and DMC-HD-DSP and that seemed to work, whenever non-hdcp content was routed to the DMC-HD-DSP card the video output was blanked (the HDMI video output) but the audio was still active. This is much more expensive than the HD-DA=1 so I would be curious to know if that works too.
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Have you tried the Crestron HD-DA-2? It does audio de-embedding, and cost about 40% less than the HAE.
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From: Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...>
To: "'Crestron@...'" <Crestron@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 4:52 PM
Subject: RE: [Crestron] DM outputs to a production system, story and questions. :-)
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So for the HAE-100 issue...
What happens if you momentarily break the route (e.g. switch to 0d) between changing sources.
E.g. HDCP Required MAC --> 0 --> Non HDCP PC
Also, I'm not sure what the cost delta is, but if all you need the HAE 100 for is audio deembedding, why not use a DM-RMC-200-C instead of the DM-RMC-SCALER-C + HAE100?
The only (potential) problem I see is that the RMC-200-C only does line-level outputs as unbalanced, but the cost/trouble savings in not having to deal with a 2nd piece of hardware and the related space/cabling may be worth it.
--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 | F: 440.449.1106 | I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer
-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of matt_rasmussen_2000
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:39 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] DM outputs to a production system, story and questions. :-)
We're having trouble with finding a reliable process to get the DM presentation outputs into our production systems to work reliable. Our current system design is below.
1) Presentation inputs into the DM matrix via DM plates, or, possibly via Extron plates to a DM-MD6x6.
2) DM-RMC-SCALER-C HDMI output into an Extron HAE 100 to de-embed the audio from the presentation source. (resolution scaled to 1080i/30, the native resolution of the broadcast system)
3) HDMI output of the HAE 100 to an AJA HA5 to covert to HD-SDI (this device is NOT HDCP compliant).
The problem we have is that when we switch HDCP encrypted content through the system, the HAE 100 outputs green screen like we would expect, since the HA5/production switcher is not HDCP compliant. But, the issue is that when non-HDCP content is then switched through the system the HAE 100 still does not allow the content through, it's still green screen. When you reboot the HAE 100 it works fine again, until HDCP content, IE a MAC computer, is attached to the system.
Another interesting twist is that when we use a Quantum Data HDMI/HDCP test instrument to generate the signal into the HAE 100 --> AJA HA5 --> HD Star, the HAE 100 functions perfectly. You enable/disable the HDCP key requirements on the Quantum Data generator and you see the HDCP indicator on the HAE 100 input display correctly, green screen on the output when unlit, and video pass-through when lit.
Out current solution is to make the entire DM system non-HDCP compliant, which really sucks, because every single device in these systems is compliant, except the production input.
The questions are:
1) Have any of you experienced this issue with the DM/SCALERC output into the HAE 100?
2) Do you have another solution that does the same thing design wise, but works properly?
3) Is there a way to change the way the digital output of an Apple PC to always be NON-HDCP compliant, this is really the biggest problem. I don't care if I can't play a BluRay on the second display output, but I should be able to see the damn desktop.
Thanks for looking. :)
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Lincoln, have you tried the 200 to see what happens if a non-HDCP compliant display is connected to the output of the RX? Does the audio output still work even though the video may have been blanked? And, I assume it resyncs when a non-HDCP encrypted source is sent to the 200 so video is again aquired?
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--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:
So for the HAE-100 issue...
What happens if you momentarily break the route (e.g. switch to 0d) between changing sources.
E.g. HDCP Required MAC --> 0 --> Non HDCP PC
Also, I'm not sure what the cost delta is, but if all you need the HAE 100 for is audio deembedding, why not use a DM-RMC-200-C instead of the DM-RMC-SCALER-C + HAE100?
The only (potential) problem I see is that the RMC-200-C only does line-level outputs as unbalanced, but the cost/trouble savings in not having to deal with a 2nd piece of hardware and the related space/cabling may be worth it.
--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 | F: 440.449.1106 | I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer
-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of matt_rasmussen_2000
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:39 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] DM outputs to a production system, story and questions. :-)
We're having trouble with finding a reliable process to get the DM presentation outputs into our production systems to work reliable. Our current system design is below.
1) Presentation inputs into the DM matrix via DM plates, or, possibly via Extron plates to a DM-MD6x6.
2) DM-RMC-SCALER-C HDMI output into an Extron HAE 100 to de-embed the audio from the presentation source. (resolution scaled to 1080i/30, the native resolution of the broadcast system)
3) HDMI output of the HAE 100 to an AJA HA5 to covert to HD-SDI (this device is NOT HDCP compliant).
The problem we have is that when we switch HDCP encrypted content through the system, the HAE 100 outputs green screen like we would expect, since the HA5/production switcher is not HDCP compliant. But, the issue is that when non-HDCP content is then switched through the system the HAE 100 still does not allow the content through, it's still green screen. When you reboot the HAE 100 it works fine again, until HDCP content, IE a MAC computer, is attached to the system.
Another interesting twist is that when we use a Quantum Data HDMI/HDCP test instrument to generate the signal into the HAE 100 --> AJA HA5 --> HD Star, the HAE 100 functions perfectly. You enable/disable the HDCP key requirements on the Quantum Data generator and you see the HDCP indicator on the HAE 100 input display correctly, green screen on the output when unlit, and video pass-through when lit.
Out current solution is to make the entire DM system non-HDCP compliant, which really sucks, because every single device in these systems is compliant, except the production input.
The questions are:
1) Have any of you experienced this issue with the DM/SCALERC output into the HAE 100?
2) Do you have another solution that does the same thing design wise, but works properly?
3) Is there a way to change the way the digital output of an Apple PC to always be NON-HDCP compliant, this is really the biggest problem. I don't care if I can't play a BluRay on the second display output, but I should be able to see the damn desktop.
Thanks for looking. :)
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Matt,
I have not had a chance to see what happens in the scenario -- while DM-RMC-SCALER-Cs are a dime a dozen, the RMC-200-C is a pretty rare bird in my projects.
I would expect that it should because that's the logical thing, but I can also see an interpretation of the HDCP spec that would require the audio to also be blanked (but that interpretation would also prohibit analog audio out in the first place, IIRC)...so...
Lincoln
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-----Original Message----- From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of matt_rasmussen_2000 Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 3:13 PM To: Crestron@... Subject: [Crestron] Re: DM outputs to a production system, story and questions. :-) Lincoln, have you tried the 200 to see what happens if a non-HDCP compliant display is connected to the output of the RX? Does the audio output still work even though the video may have been blanked? And, I assume it resyncs when a non-HDCP encrypted source is sent to the 200 so video is again aquired? --- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:
So for the HAE-100 issue...
What happens if you momentarily break the route (e.g. switch to 0d) between changing sources.
E.g. HDCP Required MAC --> 0 --> Non HDCP PC
Also, I'm not sure what the cost delta is, but if all you need the HAE 100 for is audio deembedding, why not use a DM-RMC-200-C instead of the DM-RMC-SCALER-C + HAE100?
The only (potential) problem I see is that the RMC-200-C only does line-level outputs as unbalanced, but the cost/trouble savings in not having to deal with a 2nd piece of hardware and the related space/cabling may be worth it.
--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 | F: 440.449.1106 | I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer
-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of matt_rasmussen_2000
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:39 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] DM outputs to a production system, story and questions. :-)
We're having trouble with finding a reliable process to get the DM presentation outputs into our production systems to work reliable. Our current system design is below.
1) Presentation inputs into the DM matrix via DM plates, or, possibly via Extron plates to a DM-MD6x6.
2) DM-RMC-SCALER-C HDMI output into an Extron HAE 100 to de-embed the audio from the presentation source. (resolution scaled to 1080i/30, the native resolution of the broadcast system)
3) HDMI output of the HAE 100 to an AJA HA5 to covert to HD-SDI (this device is NOT HDCP compliant).
The problem we have is that when we switch HDCP encrypted content through the system, the HAE 100 outputs green screen like we would expect, since the HA5/production switcher is not HDCP compliant. But, the issue is that when non-HDCP content is then switched through the system the HAE 100 still does not allow the content through, it's still green screen. When you reboot the HAE 100 it works fine again, until HDCP content, IE a MAC computer, is attached to the system.
Another interesting twist is that when we use a Quantum Data HDMI/HDCP test instrument to generate the signal into the HAE 100 --> AJA HA5 --> HD Star, the HAE 100 functions perfectly. You enable/disable the HDCP key requirements on the Quantum Data generator and you see the HDCP indicator on the HAE 100 input display correctly, green screen on the output when unlit, and video pass-through when lit.
Out current solution is to make the entire DM system non-HDCP compliant, which really sucks, because every single device in these systems is compliant, except the production input.
The questions are:
1) Have any of you experienced this issue with the DM/SCALERC output into the HAE 100?
2) Do you have another solution that does the same thing design wise, but works properly?
3) Is there a way to change the way the digital output of an Apple PC to always be NON-HDCP compliant, this is really the biggest problem. I don't care if I can't play a BluRay on the second display output, but I should be able to see the damn desktop.
Thanks for looking. :)
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A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
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Hi Matt,
I don't know how to do that on the Mac side, but there is a solution on the DM side: Call TB and ask for answer ID 5133 (this ID hat Tech Sup level, cannot be accessed directly). You can force the DM inputs to non HDCP mode.
Best regards
Crestronfreak
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Thanks for looking. :)
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Lol. Considering that, maybe save this for private email next time? :)
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Well, just pulsing hdcp off on the inputs works just fine for the mac inputs.
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Hi Matt,
I don't know how to do that on the Mac side, but there is a solution on the DM side: Call TB and ask for answer ID 5133 (this ID hat Tech Sup level, cannot be accessed directly). You can force the DM inputs to non HDCP mode.
Best regards
Crestronfreak
--- In Crestron@..., "matt_rasmussen_2000" <mjrtoo@> wrote:
3) Is there a way to change the way the digital output of an Apple PC to always be NON-HDCP compliant, this is really the biggest problem. I don't care if I can't play a BluRay on the second display output, but I should be able to see the damn desktop.
Thanks for looking. :)
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