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A while back here I read the thread about keeping the Crestron Mobile G alive by sending a string every 10 sec…

Based on that idea, I went further and set the iPad settings to never sleep and then created a subpage with a black background that hovers over the top when there is no user activity…
For aesthetics I added a big clock with a very subtle color (with dark grey font) on that subpage as well. It appears as a nice screen-saver.

This clock is actually a string (coming from simpl+) every 10 sec to keep the iPad "alive". And this way even though the iPad is permanently on, the screen at least appears dark and it works well for iPads that sit on a wall dock…

After all this though, it's just a matter of time until eventually the iPad loses connection and reverts back to that setup screen (damn it!).

I can't believe Mobile G cannot have an internal routine with a loop such as if the connection drops, it will retry to connect after a minute or two in and endless loop. No matter what they say, don't tell me that this could not be done… (or am I crazy?)

That being said, I understand that interests are at stake and this flaw might very well be intentional (I might be wrong, but chances are I'm not…. )


Well, the way I see it, the iPad is here to stay, and no matter what size of company you are, you cannot compete with the standards that apple brings to the world. You better join it or lose it. If we cannot make an iPad behave like a real touchpanel, doesn't matter what you say, our end users will keep asking and we will forever see the frustration in our dealers faces…

In my opinion the iPad is the best touchpanel ever made! It's a game changer. (ok, it does have a few flaws, but pretty darn good!)

I am contemplating moving to command fusion, but I don't know if it solves the problems I described above… does command fusion at least tries to reconnect itself automatically when the connection is broken?

Did not want to start a rant, but apparently did.

Thank you to all members of this group, such a great source of knowledge!
Fabio

Crestron can fix that. They just need to figure it out. (I have successfully negotiated the Crestron connection/update process with S+ in a side project I'm playing with. Blows away how theirs works.)

Command fusion will have its issues but not like that. The nice thing with CF is you have an awesome group of guys in their google group, two or more of whom are the principal players over there. They will often have a problem diagnosed, fixed and waiting for the App store to approve its release by the time you get done with a message thread. There has been a lot of talk over there lately surrounding connexion issues. The not so nice things: JavaScript (but you can exist without it and still have greater functionality than MPG.).

All that being said, I'm still somewhat on the fence because they both have their issues (hence my side project.)


Heath Volmer
Digital Domain Systems
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On Mar 30, 2012, at 6:23 PM, "fabiodaubermann" <fdaubermann@...> wrote:

A while back here I read the thread about keeping the Crestron Mobile G alive by sending a string every 10 sec…

Based on that idea, I went further and set the iPad settings to never sleep and then created a subpage with a black background that hovers over the top when there is no user activity…
For aesthetics I added a big clock with a very subtle color (with dark grey font) on that subpage as well. It appears as a nice screen-saver.

This clock is actually a string (coming from simpl+) every 10 sec to keep the iPad "alive". And this way even though the iPad is permanently on, the screen at least appears dark and it works well for iPads that sit on a wall dock…

After all this though, it's just a matter of time until eventually the iPad loses connection and reverts back to that setup screen (damn it!).

I can't believe Mobile G cannot have an internal routine with a loop such as if the connection drops, it will retry to connect after a minute or two in and endless loop. No matter what they say, don't tell me that this could not be done… (or am I crazy?)

That being said, I understand that interests are at stake and this flaw might very well be intentional (I might be wrong, but chances are I'm not…. )

Well, the way I see it, the iPad is here to stay, and no matter what size of company you are, you cannot compete with the standards that apple brings to the world. You better join it or lose it. If we cannot make an iPad behave like a real touchpanel, doesn't matter what you say, our end users will keep asking and we will forever see the frustration in our dealers faces…

In my opinion the iPad is the best touchpanel ever made! It's a game changer. (ok, it does have a few flaws, but pretty darn good!)

I am contemplating moving to command fusion, but I don't know if it solves the problems I described above… does command fusion at least tries to reconnect itself automatically when the connection is broken?

Did not want to start a rant, but apparently did.

Thank you to all members of this group, such a great source of knowledge!
Fabio

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Hi Fabio,

Is this behavior you describe with the latest app, the one that came out a week or ago? I spoke to the Crestron mobile guy at the Cypress opening and he assured me that the do want the ipad app to work well and are continuing to refine it. ( i even saw a demo of a version that had fancy scrolling that has that little box in the scroll bar like an ipad or iphone has). Anyhow, they told me the wakeup on the setup page was done on purpose so that people who need their ipad to work on two systems ( like on their boat, and later at their home) have a way to chnage projects.

I disagreed and told them to give us a menu option, something like Multi-site install ON or OFF.

Anyhow talking with them it seems they do care and are doing their best, but its slow progress obviously. I have never used CF so cant comment on that.


But i just wanted to tell others that the wake on setup was done on urpose to allow mutli sites for a single ipad. Stupid!

I think I was in the seminar with you Jon. I would've thought that the setting for Auto-reconnect would be for those who have multiple systems to connect to. I have been testing with the latest version of the app in my house, and it definitely still becomes disconnected eventually, resulting in unlocking the ipad and seeing the setup screen. I just spent an hour digging through posts about this issue.

Has anyone found a workaround that works 100%? The app has come very far since it's release, but this is a major disadvantage. I think it should never kick you out to the setup screen (like the remote, or sonos app). Anyone know if Control4 or Savant's iPad apps have a similar problem? :)
Casey

Like some others, we have implemented a very simple solution that has worked very well for us. We just have an oscillator send a quick pulse to a feedback on the iPAD symbol every 10 seconds. It doesn't do anything besides that and is very simple.
We have it doing this to 3 iPADs at one home (staggered 3 seconds apart from each other), and another with 2 iPADs. Both stay connected and do not go into the setup screen, unless the processor is actually reboot (which is unavoidable).?
We also disable the Auto-lock in General settings and set it to NEVER on the iPAD so it doesn't go to sleep on it's own. That has worked extremely well for us, no issues. We are not running the latest app, but the older one that had this issue
and they work fine.?

-Ilya



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From: cb950 <cb950@...>
To: Crestron@...
Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 5:18 PM
Subject: [Crestron] Re: crestron mobile versus command fusion


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I think I was in the seminar with you Jon. I would've thought that the setting for Auto-reconnect would be for those who have multiple systems to connect to. I have been testing with the latest version of the app in my house, and it definitely still becomes disconnected eventually, resulting in unlocking the ipad and seeing the setup screen. I just spent an hour digging through posts about this issue.

Has anyone found a workaround that works 100%? The app has come very far since it's release, but this is a major disadvantage. I think it should never kick you out to the setup screen (like the remote, or sonos app). Anyone know if Control4 or Savant's iPad apps have a similar problem? :)
Casey

--- In Crestron@..., Jon Spackman <fueler1@...> wrote:

Hi Fabio,

Is this behavior you describe with the latest app, the one that came out a week or ago? I spoke to the Crestron mobile guy at the Cypress opening and he assured me that the do want the ipad app to work well and are continuing to refine it. ( i even saw a demo of a version that had fancy scrolling that has that little box in the scroll bar like an ipad or iphone has). Anyhow, they told me the wakeup on the setup page was done on purpose so that people who need their ipad to work on two systems ( like on their boat, and later at their home) have a way to chnage projects.

I disagreed and told them to give us a menu option, something like Multi-site install ON or OFF.

Anyhow talking with them it seems they do care and are doing their best, but its slow progress obviously. I have never used CF so cant comment on that.


But i just wanted to tell others that the wake on setup was done on urpose to allow mutli sites for a single ipad. Stupid!

Sent from my iPad

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