¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

ctrl + shift + ? for shortcuts
© 2025 Groups.io
Date

Re: VC-4-PC-3 first time setup and login not working

 

We're here in the US, and I don't see any relief in the "supply chain" constraints.
Just recently, I questioned or regional regarding the latest estimated shipping dates slipping further and further.
Somehow, the Crestron website lists estimated delivery dates for some products earlier than what Crestron is telling us for products that we ordered more than 14 months ago.

How is it possible to order something today and get an estimated delivery date earlier than the same product ordered over a year ago????

That's why we're testing out VC-4 here as well.
Not to mention the Shelly lighting products just to get a residential CO!
I think that we're all in the same boat!


Re: VC-4-PC-3 first time setup and login not working

 

On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 04:23 PM, ScubaSteve wrote:
I¡¯m convinced that US supply is being priorities over the rest of the world¡­.
If you were a small/medium sized dealer in the US, you wouldn't think so!...:)? ? (Can't speak for large dealers...)

Such a shame as it was a brand you could trust, but not anymore!
I've been a Crestron dealer/programmer for 30 years and I've never seen anything like this.? George and Fred are rolling in their graves...
It's really sad because there is really no alternative, unless you like packaged solutions that solve 80% of what you want to provide...


Re: VC-4-PC-3 first time setup and login not working

 

Lol¡­.I feel your pain¡­..I have 14 MPC3s on order for 18 months amongst other kit and the dates just move backwards¡­..Personally I don't think Crestron are playing fair and are favouring bigger accounts over small ones. ?Can¡¯t prove it, but watching supply of surplus kit in different continents is interesting to see. ?I¡¯m convinced that US supply is being priorities over the rest of the world¡­.

Such a shame as it was a brand you could trust, but not anymore!



Re: VC-4-PC-3 first time setup and login not working

 

Or better yet a CP3/CP4...no 'N'...

The only reason most of us would even consider the VC-4 is because Crestron has screwed up so bad with supply chain (Still!!)
The least they could do is deliver a work-around solution that is ready to deploy, like their processors...
To make dealers/programmers have to waste time 'Sawing their legs off' to figure out how to get stuff actually functional is unacceptable...


Re: F9 in SIMPL

 

Although I wasn't able to recreate the issue, the SIMPL team was able to recreate with the info in this thread.
They confirmed it's been fixed for the next release. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.


Re: VC-4-PC-3 first time setup and login not working

 

Seems a lot easier to just fit a CP3N / CP4N.....lol....? ;-)

Are there really any benefits to this technology against the processor Hardware options other than supply chain issues?


Re: F9 in SIMPL

 

So I tried a few iterations with the Preferences check-box...
1. For me it did not fix the initial issue where the folder looses focus and requires re-clicking (or F8).
2. With the check-box checked, each time I F9'd a folder, SMW opened/expanded the folder rather than keeping it closed.? This makes the process *impossible* even with an F8 and an auto process as you'll need multiple Down-Arrows to get to the next folder, especially if there's a lot of items in the folder.
>>> And when working in the 'Detail View' section, having the logic tree constantly jumping, expanding, etc. is a total deal-breaker for me...

All in all, the check-box should be Un-checked, IMO...YMMV...


nvx analog audio route to Crestron Home volume control

 

Hello, does anyone know if I can route the analog output of the NVX E30 to the volume control when I switch to that source in crestron home.?

I have 2 NVX-E30, and 1 NVX-D30.. what I want to do is to use the virtual switcher created in Crestron Home with those 2 sources and 1 display, but when I chosse source 1, the volume control of the crestron home control page would be the analog output volume control of the NVX.
In simpl windows you actually can do that, but I haven't found how to in CH, or if it is possible.?

thanks to you all
nf


Re: F9 in SIMPL

 

Ah, Noted! I'll try it and report back...


Re: F9 in SIMPL

 

This'll get you started in Auto Hot Key. Instructions are included, with a description of each script available. The one I use the most is Ctl-Alt-F9, to sequentially F9 a series of symbols/folders, with more flexibility than SIMPL's built in functions. The instructions also describe how to install it so it runs at startup every time. They assume you've gotten this as a shared folder, rather than a download, so you'll need to stash the script somewhere and then follow the rest of the instructions.

Complements of The LiquidPixel Group:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lx842lweiam0jyh/AAA2srENP20y7OGFyMDG6Phca?dl=0

--
Josh Winn
The LiquidPixel Group


Re: F9 in SIMPL

 

Dave suggested TOGGLING that checkbox off and then back on (or back to off - not sure). So maybe it's not just about having it set correctly.
--
Josh Winn
The LiquidPixel Group


Re: Old Crestron / Lutron QS system - no LED feedback

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

The commands you are receiving on the feedback are for button presses on at the keypad. This is the component number for lutron and comes after the integration id that is 180.
So the feedback translates to actual button press, not led state.
Get state action is ?
And set state action is #

The component numbers must be between (101-200) that are for led states.
From 1-100 is the component number range for keypad button press

If you use another control module for the phantom kepad led state (dont remember wich one is it) you will receive this kind of command:

assuming integrarion ID-180
Component number 101

LED STATE IS OFF=

~DEVICE,180,101,9,0\x0D\x0A ??

LED STATE IS ON=

~DEVICE,180,101,9,1\x0D\x0A ?

You can try it on debugger with the command itself directly to the qs processor:

?DEVICE,INTEGRATION ID, COMPONENT NUMBER, ACTION NUMBER, PARAMETERSx0D\x0A?
Example:
?DEVICE,180,101,9x0D\x0A?
¡°Get the state of led 1¡±

Hope it helps
Nico



On 16 Aug 2023, at 9:15, nicolas freda <cdandcontrol@...> wrote:

The commands you are receiving on the feedback are for button presses on at the keypad. This is the component number for lutron and comes after the integration id that is 180.
So the feedback translates to actual button press, not led state.
Get state action is ?
And set state action is #

The component numbers must be between (101-200) that are for led states.
From 1-100 is the component number range for keypad button press

If you use another control module for the phantom kepad led state (dont remember wich one is it) you will receive this kind of command:

assuming integrarion ID-180
Component number 101

LED STATE IS OFF=

~DEVICE,180,101,9,0\x0D\x0A ??

LED STATE IS ON=

~DEVICE,180,101,9,1\x0D\x0A ?

You can try it on debugger with the command itself directly to the qs processor:

?DEVICE,INTEGRATION ID, COMPONENT NUMBER, ACTION NUMBER, PARAMETERSx0D\x0A?
Example:
?DEVICE,180,101,9x0D\x0A?
¡°Get the state of led 1¡±


Re: F9 in SIMPL

 

F8 !!!? That is very helpful...? ?I'm also going to have to *Finally* check out Auto-Hot-Key... Dustin has been talking about it for years!

And converse to Alex, I actually don't have that item checked!? ?So I venture that it won't fix this particular issue...


Re: Old Crestron / Lutron QS system - no LED feedback

 

Oh, I just saw that you're using a 2-series. I'll have to check to see if our updated modules work with that...reach out anyway...


Re: Old Crestron / Lutron QS system - no LED feedback

 

Are you using the 'Lutron HomeWorks QS Phantom Keypad Emulation r03' Module. I just finished a project using it and it works fine.
QS Version 15.13.3 and also have a recent project running the old v10.3. I have not has this issue.

Note: on startup, I have a stepper that hits the POLL inputs for all the LEDs just to get an initial update, but after that everything comes in without request.

We did make some fundemental changes to the Core and processing modules (and the dimming modules) for more efficient parsing...
If you reach out to me directly, I'll give them to you - chris at eicustom dot com


Re: F9 in SIMPL

 

F8 does exactly what I need! Just like you said Josh, it puts the focus right back where it's supposed to be. This is great and solves my issue.? I'm going to look at some of the other options for keyboards/mouse macros/hotkeys as well. Seems like it would be worthwhile separate from this issue, so thanks for all the suggestions.


Re: F9 in SIMPL

 

Yes, I have the checkbox for that setting checked.?


Topics in Home Automation - New Article in Residential Tech Today

 

My latest article, "AI and the Smart Home ¨C A Conversation with an Expert in AI¡± is being published by the good folks at Residential Tech Today Magazine on their web site.

I believe that AI has a great deal to offer a smart home.? For example, it has the potential to automatically recognize the capabilities and functions of each device in a smart home and automatically facilitate interoperability and communications between them.? But, to dig into more details on what AI can offer in a smart home I decided to talk to an expert in the subject. This article is a transcript of that conversation.

You can find the article here:




For those interested in earlier articles that I've written, you can find those here:



Finally, for those that want to see even more content I've written about smart home technology you can find that here:



Thanks


Old Crestron / Lutron QS system - no LED feedback

 

Hi,

I'm struggling with getting any LED feedback via the phantom keypad LEDs in SIMPL. Control works perfectly.

System details:
  • Lutron QS 14.5.0
  • Crestron CP2E
  • Lutron Homeworks QS r03 modules within SIMPL
    • CORE Module IP r03
    • Feedback Sorting SIMPL Module r03
    • Group Feedback Processing SIMPL Module r03
    • Phantom Keypad Emulation r03 (only using phantom keypads)
    • Button Models r02


I receive the following back from Lutron and it seems correct, but the Phantom Keypad Emulation module is not processing it and thus no change in the LED feedback signal.

Switch light off =? ~DEVICE,180,83,9,0\x0D\x0A? ? HWQS_INT_ID180$
Switch light on =? ~DEVICE,180,83,9,1\x0D\x0A? ? HWQS_INT_ID180$


Maybe I'm going something stupid. Any assistance would be appreciated.

Thank you!

?

?


Re: VC-4-PC-3 first time setup and login not working

 

Admittedly I missed the bit about the VC-4 here:

Claim a Single Device

To claim a single device:

    1. Record the MAC address and serial number of the device. The MAC address and serial number are labeled on the shipping box or on a sticker attached to the device.

NOTES:

  • If the device has multiple MAC addresses, use the MAC address that is providing the primary connection back to the network. For most devices, the Ethernet MAC address should be used. However, if your device is connecting to the network over a different protocol (such as Wi-Fi? communications), use the MAC address for that protocol instead.
  • If claiming a Crestron software product (such as Crestron Virtual Control server software), the serial number and MAC?address are generated by the software and can be located using its web configuration interface. For Crestron software products that are preinstalled on a computer or other device (such as the VC?4?PC?3), do not use the serial number and MAC address labeled on the device.
However I don't see the generated serial number either in the