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Re: First time working on fusion
There's a full set of code symbols and joins that need to be added to the program to hook it into a fusion server. It's a whole thing that is covered in... I want to say I think it was in CTI-P201?? At any rate, it's not just a switch you flip... adding fusion to any program (at least the right way) pretty much triples the coding time. |
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Re: 10 Room Multi Wedding Venue Playlist Management Ideas
Just some thoughts and questions:
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Who is providing the tracks? The end client or the facility? If the latter, are they going to provide a library of available tracks for client perusal?
How are the tracks being triggered and by who? Will there be an AV operator/DJ provided with the space??
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Would you not set up a streaming server to allow playback of the playlist?
At which point some form of scheduler would be required to expose the appropriate playlist to the allocated space at the appropriate time.
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It seems that this will become a management nightmare. And a copyright nightmare.
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In the past I have used a QSYS core to expose multiple playlists in a training facility - this might be an appropriate thing to investigate.
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At the end of the day I'm glad this isn't my job!!!! :-)?
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Cheers Phil |
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10 Room Multi Wedding Venue Playlist Management Ideas
Ok.? I have a client who is trying to control wedding music from multiple touch panels and needs a simple way to manage playlists.? Ten Rooms, ten touch panels.? You can have ten weddings going on at the same time, three weddings a night, so on any given night you can have 30 weddings.? Say, 5 songs per wedding, that¡¯s 30 different playlists, 150 songs total (I¡¯m simplifying).? Seven days a week.? The kicker is that the playlists will all be set up weeks or months in advance, so we are managing hundreds, possibly thousands of playlists. My first thought was either NAX or Autonomic, but the playlist management isn¡¯t going to cut it.? Also, NAX is out because you can¡¯t use locally stored files, only the streaming services.? Autonomic you can use local files.? For simplicity, let¡¯s say we go with the Media Player object on a 70 series panel controlling Spotify streaming (or whatever).? Using this method, It doesn¡¯t take long for playlist management to get out of control. For example.? Client phone call:? ¡°Hello, this is [CLIENT NAME] and we are getting married on [DATE] at [TIME] in [ROOM NAME] and we would like to walk down the isle to [SONG].? Multiply that by a thousand. The solution I am thinking about is programing the panels in HTML, and embedding the meta data and song files from a database or a Google Sheet.? A simple website would be used to manage all playlists.? Like this: This would be ideal, because whomever is taking the clients requests can just update the database from a webpage, from anywhere, and even search by date/room#/client name.? Each touch panel would sort the db by date and room name and display the relevant songs.? The problem?? This would involve dragging and dropping actual files into a hierarchy, which I personally haven¡¯t done since Limewire was a thing.? So the embed not only has to have the ability to point to a real file, but it would more often need to point to some kind of ID or song name on one of the streaming services.? Let¡¯s just say that I must have missed that chapter in my copy of Javascript for Dummies. Yes, the easiest way to do this would be via a laptop in each room, which they don¡¯t want.? The safest way to do this is to make each couple bring their own music, which they don¡¯t want.?? I¡¯m not even sure a database is the best approach, so I¡¯m open to ideas.? I also haven¡¯t quoted a price, so DM me and I¡¯m happy to partner with one of you if you have a solution I can¡¯t see. ? Sorry for the long read, and thanks everybody! |
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PC locks up for 3-5 min after installing Crestron software
this has been going on for over a year now
WIn11 24H2
the install finishes, but clicking anything other than the open window will not work
wait a while and PC starts responding again
does this for database updates and every other exe from Crestron as well |
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First time working on fusion
I have a customer whose fusion server has already been setup by the previous company. Their server is on-premise.
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We have replaced the old processor and doing all the programming from scratch.
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I wanted to know is there any setting that needs to made on the new processor rmc4 to communicate with customer on-premise fusion server? |
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Re: Cresnet to Ethernet adaptor
On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 11:04 AM, Tony Golden wrote:
For a very inexpensive option, I've used these - . The oldest site was 3 or 4 years ago, with no reported issues.The LinoVision looks definitely worth the testing, as it is REALLY inexpensive!? I used the NVT units years ago and they worked well, but it looks like a 1-to-1 kit is ~$600 which is REALLY expensive.? ?
Michael brings up a good point to be tested for the 100mb units, so again I think its worth testing, given the DoorBird unit (which is a good choice) is 4X the LinoVision... |
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Re: Cresnet to Ethernet adaptor
I'll back up what Tony said, I've used the Amazon Linovision poe over two wire many many times and it has been rock solid. On Fri, May 23, 2025, 9:25 a.m. Thorsten K?hler via <thorsten.koehler=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Cresnet to Ethernet adaptor
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýGood call Mike, pointing out Cresnet not being twisted pair. ? I didn?t think of that. ? Cheers, Thorsten ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Michael Caldwell-Waller via groups.io ? Just having done this before as an experiment, I would avoid assuming 100Mbit Ethernet will run over any 4 wires, even with Cresnet cable¡¯s shielding. ? 100Mb Ethernet takes a noticeable hit in signal quality even just from getting the pairs wrong (e.g. crimping 1-2 3-4 5-6 7-8 instead of 3-6 and 4-5 as pairs as required by the spec).? The physics of the twists is critical to the noise rejection strategy, and isn¡¯t the same as the?physics of shielding.? ? A highly likely real-world outcome is you¡¯ll get a link light and initial indications of it working, but packet loss will be high, you¡¯ll get intermittent packet loss for sure, and possibly a connection so bad you could struggle to load a web page.? Imagine a scenario where the connection works but only while the nearby fluorescent lights or motorized appliances are off. ?my Raspberry Pi solutions will look medical-, and aerospace-worthy by comparison.? ? If you must do this, force the connection to 10 megabits, which is noticeably more tolerant of this.? Also consider relatively inexpensive commercial solutions that run Ethernet over copper twisted pair media (these borrow strategies from old-school modems and DSL including sweeping the cable for frequencies that pass cleanly, and modulating the signal using only those) ? Mike ? ? On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 06:48 Thorsten K?hler via <thorsten.koehler=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Cresnet to Ethernet adaptor
Just having done this before as an experiment, I would avoid assuming 100Mbit Ethernet will run over any 4 wires, even with Cresnet cable¡¯s shielding. 100Mb Ethernet takes a noticeable hit in signal quality even just from getting the pairs wrong (e.g. crimping 1-2 3-4 5-6 7-8 instead of 3-6 and 4-5 as pairs as required by the spec).? The physics of the twists is critical to the noise rejection strategy, and isn¡¯t the same as the?physics of shielding.? A highly likely real-world outcome is you¡¯ll get a link light and initial indications of it working, but packet loss will be high, you¡¯ll get intermittent packet loss for sure, and possibly a connection so bad you could struggle to load a web page.? Imagine a scenario where the connection works but only while the nearby fluorescent lights or motorized appliances are off. ?my Raspberry Pi solutions will look medical-, and aerospace-worthy by comparison.? If you must do this, force the connection to 10 megabits, which is noticeably more tolerant of this.? Also consider relatively inexpensive commercial solutions that run Ethernet over copper twisted pair media (these borrow strategies from old-school modems and DSL including sweeping the cable for frequencies that pass cleanly, and modulating the signal using only those) Mike On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 06:48 Thorsten K?hler via <thorsten.koehler=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Cresnet to Ethernet adaptor
For a very inexpensive option, I've used these - . The oldest site was 3 or 4 years ago, with no reported issues.
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The only other model I've used are the NVT, which as far as I know were the first to offer such a product - . However, the NVT will probably be even higher cost than the 2N or other brands (which I've also heard work well). --- On May 23, 2025 at 8:36 AM, ckangis wrote: |
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Re: Horizon 2 simultaneous buttons
I don't have an Hz to test but with other keypads, Each button is registered separately so you can P+H one and Press another in SMW.
Now with the 'Split' Button I can't say for sure, but since they are defined separately, I would expect that you can do this successfully... |
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Re: Cresnet to Ethernet adaptor
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOh, I wasn?t aware this was referring to an old thread reusing Cresnet wiring for Ethernet/PoE. As Cresnet is 4-wire and standard 100Mbit Ethernet is based on 4-wire (even with PoE), it shouldn?t be a problem to use Cresnet wiring for that purpose. I?d use a keystone CAT-modul and put the four Cresnet strands onto the corresponding terminals. Then use a standard patch cord. ? Cheers, Thorsten ? ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von ckangis ? On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 07:30 AM, Thorsten K?hler wrote:
Thorsten, I don't think that's going to work. I'm pretty sure that the DIN-CENCN-2-POE only takes an ethernet comms to serve Cresnet devices. ? The thread is about using Cresnet cable (or any 2-wire cable) and convert it to ethernet/POE, basically extending the usefulness of old infrastructure. DoorBird makes one that we have used, but it's a bit $$$, about $375/set (dealer) ? I know that 2N and Lantronix among others make these devices. One would have to find/test a less expensive unit if you can find it... |
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Re: Cresnet to Ethernet adaptor
On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 07:30 AM, Thorsten K?hler wrote:
DIN-CENCN-2-POEThorsten, I don't think that's going to work. I'm pretty sure that the DIN-CENCN-2-POE only takes an ethernet comms to serve Cresnet devices. ?
The thread is about using Cresnet cable (or any 2-wire cable) and convert it to ethernet/POE, basically extending the usefulness of old infrastructure.
DoorBird makes one that we have used, but it's a bit $$$, about $375/set (dealer)
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I know that 2N and Lantronix among others make these devices. One would have to find/test a less expensive unit if you can find it... |
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Re: Crestron Home with Unifi Cameras
I have numerous sites with UI cameras and I use the following stream, very similar to what was already posted but one notable change (in red):
Example - rtsp://192.168.0.xxx:7447/[autokeygeneratedbyprotect]?rtsp_tcp=yes
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I can get the tcp=no to work as well as leaving the url blank after the "?" but the streams work much better if you're leaving the touch panel on a camera screen with tcp=yes in my experience. This seems especially true on previous gen interfaces like 1060's, 1052's, ts-1542s etc. if you use tcp=yes. Don't know why but it works. Also, I would start with the lowest res stream as a test and then move up to higher res streams, especially with 4k cameras.?
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One thing I've never been able to make work on CH projects though is the preview. I tested what David posted and I couldn't get it to work for me.
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Re: Cresnet to Ethernet adaptor
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýDIN-CENCN-2-POE ? Cheers, Thorsten ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von mark kaye via groups.io ? is there a current solution for Cresnet to Ethernet + POE? |
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