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PC locks up for 3-5 min after installing Crestron software
this has been going on for over a year now
WIn11 24H2
the install finishes, but clicking anything other than the open window will not work
wait a while and PC starts responding again
does this for database updates and every other exe from Crestron as well |
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First time working on fusion
I have a customer whose fusion server has already been setup by the previous company. Their server is on-premise.
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We have replaced the old processor and doing all the programming from scratch.
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I wanted to know is there any setting that needs to made on the new processor rmc4 to communicate with customer on-premise fusion server? |
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Re: Cresnet to Ethernet adaptor
On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 11:04 AM, Tony Golden wrote:
For a very inexpensive option, I've used these - . The oldest site was 3 or 4 years ago, with no reported issues.The LinoVision looks definitely worth the testing, as it is REALLY inexpensive!? I used the NVT units years ago and they worked well, but it looks like a 1-to-1 kit is ~$600 which is REALLY expensive.? ?
Michael brings up a good point to be tested for the 100mb units, so again I think its worth testing, given the DoorBird unit (which is a good choice) is 4X the LinoVision... |
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Re: Cresnet to Ethernet adaptor
I'll back up what Tony said, I've used the Amazon Linovision poe over two wire many many times and it has been rock solid. On Fri, May 23, 2025, 9:25 a.m. Thorsten K?hler via <thorsten.koehler=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Cresnet to Ethernet adaptor
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýGood call Mike, pointing out Cresnet not being twisted pair. ? I didn?t think of that. ? Cheers, Thorsten ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Michael Caldwell-Waller via groups.io ? Just having done this before as an experiment, I would avoid assuming 100Mbit Ethernet will run over any 4 wires, even with Cresnet cable¡¯s shielding. ? 100Mb Ethernet takes a noticeable hit in signal quality even just from getting the pairs wrong (e.g. crimping 1-2 3-4 5-6 7-8 instead of 3-6 and 4-5 as pairs as required by the spec).? The physics of the twists is critical to the noise rejection strategy, and isn¡¯t the same as the?physics of shielding.? ? A highly likely real-world outcome is you¡¯ll get a link light and initial indications of it working, but packet loss will be high, you¡¯ll get intermittent packet loss for sure, and possibly a connection so bad you could struggle to load a web page.? Imagine a scenario where the connection works but only while the nearby fluorescent lights or motorized appliances are off. ?my Raspberry Pi solutions will look medical-, and aerospace-worthy by comparison.? ? If you must do this, force the connection to 10 megabits, which is noticeably more tolerant of this.? Also consider relatively inexpensive commercial solutions that run Ethernet over copper twisted pair media (these borrow strategies from old-school modems and DSL including sweeping the cable for frequencies that pass cleanly, and modulating the signal using only those) ? Mike ? ? On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 06:48 Thorsten K?hler via <thorsten.koehler=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Cresnet to Ethernet adaptor
Just having done this before as an experiment, I would avoid assuming 100Mbit Ethernet will run over any 4 wires, even with Cresnet cable¡¯s shielding. 100Mb Ethernet takes a noticeable hit in signal quality even just from getting the pairs wrong (e.g. crimping 1-2 3-4 5-6 7-8 instead of 3-6 and 4-5 as pairs as required by the spec).? The physics of the twists is critical to the noise rejection strategy, and isn¡¯t the same as the?physics of shielding.? A highly likely real-world outcome is you¡¯ll get a link light and initial indications of it working, but packet loss will be high, you¡¯ll get intermittent packet loss for sure, and possibly a connection so bad you could struggle to load a web page.? Imagine a scenario where the connection works but only while the nearby fluorescent lights or motorized appliances are off. ?my Raspberry Pi solutions will look medical-, and aerospace-worthy by comparison.? If you must do this, force the connection to 10 megabits, which is noticeably more tolerant of this.? Also consider relatively inexpensive commercial solutions that run Ethernet over copper twisted pair media (these borrow strategies from old-school modems and DSL including sweeping the cable for frequencies that pass cleanly, and modulating the signal using only those) Mike On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 06:48 Thorsten K?hler via <thorsten.koehler=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Cresnet to Ethernet adaptor
For a very inexpensive option, I've used these - . The oldest site was 3 or 4 years ago, with no reported issues.
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The only other model I've used are the NVT, which as far as I know were the first to offer such a product - . However, the NVT will probably be even higher cost than the 2N or other brands (which I've also heard work well). --- On May 23, 2025 at 8:36 AM, ckangis wrote: |
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Re: Horizon 2 simultaneous buttons
I don't have an Hz to test but with other keypads, Each button is registered separately so you can P+H one and Press another in SMW.
Now with the 'Split' Button I can't say for sure, but since they are defined separately, I would expect that you can do this successfully... |
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Re: Cresnet to Ethernet adaptor
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOh, I wasn?t aware this was referring to an old thread reusing Cresnet wiring for Ethernet/PoE. As Cresnet is 4-wire and standard 100Mbit Ethernet is based on 4-wire (even with PoE), it shouldn?t be a problem to use Cresnet wiring for that purpose. I?d use a keystone CAT-modul and put the four Cresnet strands onto the corresponding terminals. Then use a standard patch cord. ? Cheers, Thorsten ? ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von ckangis ? On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 07:30 AM, Thorsten K?hler wrote:
Thorsten, I don't think that's going to work. I'm pretty sure that the DIN-CENCN-2-POE only takes an ethernet comms to serve Cresnet devices. ? The thread is about using Cresnet cable (or any 2-wire cable) and convert it to ethernet/POE, basically extending the usefulness of old infrastructure. DoorBird makes one that we have used, but it's a bit $$$, about $375/set (dealer) ? I know that 2N and Lantronix among others make these devices. One would have to find/test a less expensive unit if you can find it... |
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Re: Cresnet to Ethernet adaptor
On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 07:30 AM, Thorsten K?hler wrote:
DIN-CENCN-2-POEThorsten, I don't think that's going to work. I'm pretty sure that the DIN-CENCN-2-POE only takes an ethernet comms to serve Cresnet devices. ?
The thread is about using Cresnet cable (or any 2-wire cable) and convert it to ethernet/POE, basically extending the usefulness of old infrastructure.
DoorBird makes one that we have used, but it's a bit $$$, about $375/set (dealer)
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I know that 2N and Lantronix among others make these devices. One would have to find/test a less expensive unit if you can find it... |
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Re: Crestron Home with Unifi Cameras
I have numerous sites with UI cameras and I use the following stream, very similar to what was already posted but one notable change (in red):
Example - rtsp://192.168.0.xxx:7447/[autokeygeneratedbyprotect]?rtsp_tcp=yes
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I can get the tcp=no to work as well as leaving the url blank after the "?" but the streams work much better if you're leaving the touch panel on a camera screen with tcp=yes in my experience. This seems especially true on previous gen interfaces like 1060's, 1052's, ts-1542s etc. if you use tcp=yes. Don't know why but it works. Also, I would start with the lowest res stream as a test and then move up to higher res streams, especially with 4k cameras.?
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One thing I've never been able to make work on CH projects though is the preview. I tested what David posted and I couldn't get it to work for me.
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Re: Cresnet to Ethernet adaptor
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýDIN-CENCN-2-POE ? Cheers, Thorsten ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von mark kaye via groups.io ? is there a current solution for Cresnet to Ethernet + POE? |
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Re: NVX Philosophical Network Config Pondering
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi Lincoln, ? Hm, that?s very interesting. I?m just starting to deep dive into this topic, so this might be the difference between theory and reality. However, both the links you provided are 5+ years old. Would be interesting to research if something has changed in the meantime or if it?s indeed down to the manufacturer?s implementation. ? At least from what I understand, the behaviour I described (snooping / querier messages indepent of the actual content stream) is actually how it is designed. Not vice versa. But I am by no means an expert on that, so it might well be the case that reality is different than my understanding. ? My home-/home-office-setup looks like this (all Netgear): ? Core: M4300-8X8F with fiber links to: ?
? DMF-CI-8 with 6 x 350C is located in rack #1 with (currently) a few (4 in total) D30/350 as receivers (+ transmitter) connected to all non-core switches except rack#1. The core switch is configured as the querier. So based on ?your theory/experience, the 2x1GB link between the rack#1 and the core switch should be saturated quickly. I?m currently only using two of the six 350C in rack #1. I?ll take all of them in use today and see what it does to the network. ? I?ll report back. ? Cheers, Thorsten ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Lincoln King-Cliby via groups.io ? Thorsten, ? My impression/experience has always been that that actual multicast traffic flows to the querier ¨C and this Reddit thread matches my experiences: ?as does ??(¡°This means that every single multicast stream on the network needs to be forwarded to the querier. ¡ ¡°¡is configured as Querier, all the streams have to be forwarded to this switch, even if there are no subscribers. If each stream has a 1 Gbps bitrate, this means the uplink between the switches now needs minimum 3 Gbps capacity, even with only a single decoder¡±) -- although that has aways seemed like an odd behavioral choice. It is also frequently mooted by AV systems relegating AVoIP to a single isolated switch anyway (throwing away a lot of the power/versatility of AVoIP but I digress). ? My understanding is Netgear does some nonstandard things with IGMP on the M4xxx series to make multicast work a little more intelligently so perhaps the behavior mentioned is accurate within that implementation only? Although I¡¯m a bit of a Cisco snob I did seriously consider Netgear for the ¡°AV Closet¡± switch but on the used market the 48-port Cisco UPOE switch I wound up going with was 25x cheaper than any of the Netgear M4xxx I was finding (and I am, if nothing else, frugal) ? But all the more reason to have a ¡®lab¡¯ where I can break things without worrying about what a client needs or that I should be working on ¡°real¡± projects ? ? Enjoy (and good luck with) your conversion! -- Lincoln King-Cliby Commercial Market Director ? ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Thorsten K?hler
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2025 3:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [crestron] NVX Philosophical Network Config Pondering ? Funny coincidence ¨C I?m currently at the exact same point: replacing my the current DM-stuff in my house with NVX. The DMF-chassis with 6x350C arrived last week and is already up and running and I?ve collected a bunch of 350 and D30/E30 over time that are ready to go. I already have a fairly reasonable network in place all based on Netgear M4300 and M42500 switches, interconnected via 10G fiber. ? My setup won?t be as large as your?s. I?m looking only at 6x350C installed in the chassis that I plan to use as encoders and just about 3-4 projectors and displays for the decoders. All wired up nicely with CAT6 when we moved in 10 years ago. ? ? With regards to bandwidth: I?d plan the bandwidth requirements on actual use, not worst-case. At least for my own house. So which/how many streams are you actually about to use at the same time? How likely is it that all your encoders and decoders will transmit/receive streams at the same time? ? With regards to the VLAN/querier question: querier data is just metadata and not the actual streams. So I would go ¡°by the book¡±. At least that?s what I?ll do. I?ve put all the NVX stuff on a dedicated VLAN with the querier remaining on the core. ? Cheers, Thorsten ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Lincoln King-Cliby via groups.io ? There are about 7 decode (plus 1-3 encode, currently I have 3 DM-TXes around the house but only really use one with any kind of regularity and the other two are definitely in the ¡°they¡¯ll wait until I get my hands on more gear¡±) and the distribution of encoders and decoders is largely to get out of the (IMO) stupid cross patching I¡¯m currently doing to get DM to and from data drops in places where ¡°I¡¯ll never need AV CAT cable here¡¡± (from the time before DM was really a thing¡ but remind me never to say that about LV cabling next time I buy and wire a house¡) ? The switch choice aside from being in my ¡°reasonable enough¡± price range (it was about $80 shipped including both power supplies) was mostly driven by the desire to be able to do 10G over copper between the ¡°Data Core¡± and ?¡°AV Core¡± but also because I wanted to be able to power the non-¡°C¡±-series cards over PoE ¨C and the DM-NVX-350 are somewhat absurdly power hungry (requiring the 60-watt UPoE capability) ?(Aside from just not wanting to deal with wall warts, I manage power somewhat aggressively on the house when I¡¯m away so being able to turn off PoE to the switch port is a lot cleaner than scattering a bunch of relays or controlled outlets around. ? Since I have the cable between AV and data and the 10G ports are already there the fat pipe is essentially free. ? Looking forward to having some fun ¨C all the weird things I¡¯ve been curious about but would never do with a client¡¯s hardware or on a client¡¯s network¡. ? Lincoln ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of ckangis ? How many TV/Decoder end-points outside of your rack?? ? I'm definitely above my head on a lot of these streaming network details but: - If you have 24 encode/decoders or less, I would put them all on one switch. I think this would eliminate the need for a fat uplink. - Since you're using the DMF chassis' to power the encoders (and decoders for AVRs in rack, etc.), you wouldn't need POE for these, thus the POE requirements would be limited saving $$ on the switch you'd need for this - If you need more than 24 ports, going to a 48 port unit with limited/half-POE budget, could solve this also... ? Sorry if I'm missing details in your system design, and of course you probably already have thought of these things... Hope you can get things going great!! sounds fun!!! |
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Re: Screen Innovations / TROY Driver Crashing Home App
Have you raised this with Crestron True Blue Support?? That would seem like the right place to report this type of issue - especially as if it works in one UI platform, but not another, it's more likely an App issue rather than a driver problem.
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It may not be relevant, but we have a number of cases lodged with support over the latest CH app crashing when certain UI elements are displayed (e.g. a slider comes into view that was previously hidden, or off-screen).? We have a 1060 using an older CH App version and current iOS that work fine but all Android clients (1070 and phones) show the crash.
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Hopefully it'll be fixed with an emergency patch.
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Re: Autonomic MMS 3.2.14: Error: Instance match for 'Player_A' not found. (1)\x0D\x0A
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI have a similar problem on an existing install where the tech changed the name and now player A is no longer usable via the control system. Changing it back didn¡¯t work. Is there a way to restore the functionality?I¡¯ll try the name query suggested to see what it¡¯s called? Tim Greenbank Control Systems Engineer 0480 749 889 On 23 May 2025, at 07:53, greg via groups.io <greg@...> wrote:
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Dean Detton