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Re: TSW1070 over Crestnet

 

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I found this on online help...

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Supposedly tested by true blue. I'll know soon and will report back.



On April 21, 2024 8:57:53 AM CDT, "MSTC via groups.io" <kol.mstc@...> wrote:
We use this, it comes with 2wire to BNC adapters so you can use the YZ pair in the cresnet cable.



it is a LINOVISION POE over coax converter set.


Also great for camera retrofit. 




?On 4/19/24, 2:27 PM, "Gary Miller" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of g@... <mailto:g@...>> wrote:


I have a project with a bunch of old CT1000 panels that the client would like to upgrade to TSW1070s, I know these panels have Wi-Fi so getting network to them should be no problem, but is there a way to use the Crestnet power to power the panel?


TIA ,Gary 
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Re: Best HDMI Matrix Switcher for 4X4: Still AVPro Edge?

 

I had good luck with WyreStorm MX0404-HDMI. Supports IR, Serial and IP control. I requested drivers from support and they sent them over. Looks like they use Janus Technology to develop their drivers. It hit a good price point and easily available in the integration channel.?
Re: Crestron App touch screen options

 

It is per apple id. Family sharing does not work. Probably best to get all the devices signed into the same apple store account when you download the app.
Re: TSW1070 over Crestnet

 

We use this, it comes with 2wire to BNC adapters so you can use the YZ pair in the cresnet cable.



it is a LINOVISION POE over coax converter set.


Also great for camera retrofit.




?On 4/19/24, 2:27 PM, "Gary Miller" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of g@... <mailto:g@...>> wrote:


I have a project with a bunch of old CT1000 panels that the client would like to upgrade to TSW1070s, I know these panels have Wi-Fi so getting network to them should be no problem, but is there a way to use the Crestnet power to power the panel?


TIA ,Gary
Re: Crestron App touch screen options

 

I'm getting a handle on this.? Reusing old screens still involves a lot of adjustment via smart graphics and I don't think a ton of time will be saved going that route.? Might as well start from scratch.? I am going to need more then the 2 pages that come with the free version.? How does the upgrade work? is it per tablet, Apple ID or something else.? Everyone in the house has their own tablet and Apple ID. There will be 4 tablets involved.? ?I'm planning to upload to the processor and not local.? I did create a little 2 page test that works perfectly so I think I'll stick to loading to the processor.
Re: Android APP ETA

 

Anyone else noticing more of these errors after using the new app/updating to 1.8001 in the error log? I don't recall seeing them before:

28. Error: LogicEngine.exe [App 1] # 2024-04-20 14:13:58? # Did not receive End of Query Acknowledge from device at Slot-02.IP-ID-07.
29. Error: LogicEngine.exe [App 1] # 2024-04-20 18:04:01? # Did not receive End of Query Acknowledge from device at Slot-02.IP-ID-07.
Re: PRO3 IP/USB weird behaviour

 

I think I got it. Upgraded toolbox to the latest version and it's OK now. It was not that old and it was working from the day of the installation two years ago.
The firmware in the PRO3 is the same also. In fact NOTHING changed from day one, not any firmware, software, nothing.?

Oh well...
Re: TSW1070 over Crestnet

 

Gary, We have used this a few times, and worked perfectly.

Tycon Systems TP-DCDC-1248

KR, David
Re: Topics in Home Automation - New Article in Residential Tech Today

 

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I heard back from SwitchBot on the question as to whether the Hub 2 would work without Internet.? The answer from SwitchBot is that currently the Hub2 only works through the cloud but that SwitchBot is working towards changing that to a complete local network solution.?

Thanks

Jay

On 4/16/2024 7:52 PM, jbasen via groups.io wrote:

The SwitchBot API goes through a cloud service so it doesn't work without an Internet connection.? However, Matter may be a different story.? I have asked SwitchBot whether a SwitchBot device that is bridged to Matter through the SwitchBot Hub 2 can be controlled through Matter when the home's Internet connection is down.? I just asked that question a few hours ago and I'm waiting on the response.? I expect that my contact at SwitchBot is going to have to bump that up to the developers so it may take a few days to hear back.

Natively, the Hubitat doesn't include support for Matter devices that are brought into the Matter ecosystem through a bridged device like the SwitchBot Hub 2.? However, there is a community development project that added that capability to the Hubitat.? I just haven't had a chance to test it yet myself.? Information on that project can be found here:

I'll let you know what I hear back from SwitchBot.

Thanks

Jay

On 4/16/2024 7:30 PM, ZS via groups.io wrote:
Is it working directly with hubitat or is another hub required? Would it work with no internet?

Re: TSW1070 over Crestnet

 

Hey Gary,
There are a number of vendors that make 2-conductor-to-Ethernet/Poe adapters that would solve your issue allowing you to use the Cresnet for POE wired network...
I haven't needed this solution in a while so I can't recommend a particular item at the moment, but if you can't find something reach back out and i'll chase something down for you.
Years ago, Crestron even had a 3rd party product that they tested and approved!!
Re: Best HDMI Matrix Switcher for 4X4: Still AVPro Edge?

 

Its bigger, but I really like the Lightware MX2-8x4-HDMI20-CA if you could use some spare outs
Re: Best HDMI Matrix Switcher for 4X4: Still AVPro Edge?

 

I have a ton of Atlona post-covid and have not seen this issue in the past year and a half. They were the available product when supply chains were nightmares, and I ended up sticking with them for a while.

This will change soon as I look more into Q-Sys and AVoIP style systems for the next rev.
TSW1070 over Crestnet

 

I have a project with a bunch of old CT1000 panels that the client would like to upgrade to TSW1070s, I know these panels have Wi-Fi so getting network to them should be no problem, but is there a way to use the Crestnet power to power the panel?

TIA ,Gary
PRO3 IP/USB weird behaviour

 

Hello.
in a museum we have a PRO3 and a PC with an XPanel. The PC also is used as a remote access for troubleshooting.

The service call mentionned that the XPanel was showing "disconnected, trying to reconnect"

When I log into the PC remotely, all the settings of the XPanel are OK, toolbox can discover the PRO3 and the other Crestron touchpanels but I can NOT access the processor via system info and a connection via putty is immediately rejected.
I can connect into the touchpanels without issue. I can ping the PRO3 from the PC.
I changed the IP address of the PC to another and same problem.

We then had a employee from the museum connect the PRO3 to the PC via USB
I can access with toolbox via USB, everything seems normal, no IPs blocked, everything in the iptable is connected and running but the XPanel.
Surprise, I can now connect via IP too !
Until the customer disconnects the USB cable...

Is there any magic that I don't get? I can connect by IP only when the USB cable is connected.
Re: Best HDMI Matrix Switcher for 4X4: Still AVPro Edge?

 

My two cents is avoid Atlona unless you like replacing dead devices whenever the power blips. EX70 Receivers and 210 transmitter plates love bricking themselves when the power goes out
Re: RFID in classroom AV system

 

If they have to scan a card anyway, have you thought about a card swipe ? ?I have one that you swipe and it outputs serial directly. ?No external RFID readers or arduinos needed. ?Embed code in the card for different people and recall different presets /access levels. ?
Re: MC3 Stuck in EBOOT,OS,

 

I got bored of waiting so cycled the power and it appears to have updated!
MC3 Stuck in EBOOT,OS,

 

I've had this thing sitting in my office for years, only used it a couple of times.
Decided I'd stick it on Ebay and get rid of it once and for all.
Gave it a clean and decided to upgrade the FW from 1.012.0017 to latest 1.502.0051 for whomever buys it.

As per FW instructions I ftp'd the file over and issued a PUF?mc3_1.502.0051.puf command.

EBOOT upgraded from v1.25.0 to v1.26.0 successfully.
OS stated it was updating from v1.012.0017 to v1.502.4324.33148

Now the MC3 appears to be stuck in bootloader as I'm getting...
EBOOT,OS, |? ? ?|? ? |? ? ?| N/A | N/A |
...repeating constantly

Is this now a brick?
Re: RFID in classroom AV system

 

I second the recommendation for HID Multiclass.? Enterprise quality unit and will read most anything.

As you noted, needs an Arduino to convert signaling to RS232.? For anyone interested I can recommend a good board and share code to do this, you just flash the code to a brand new board once over USB, the code includes wiring directions.? I really like the brand ¡°Ruggeduino¡± for quality, and their extreme flexibility on supply voltage, and have never had one fail. ?

I haven¡¯t yet dug into OSDP but I might one day.? Any time I have had polling or timing objectives to meet, I have dedicated a second Arduino chosen for its _lack_ of network support, just to that single task, and linked them via i2c or serial because you can control everything and ensure there are no competing tasks on chip.? Same idea can solve Crestron driver timing limitations.? A cooperating Arduino between Crestron and a timing sensitive device works magic, you can nail timing down to the ¦Ìs with the Arduino and relieve the Crestron driver of meeting timing burdens.?

I believe that any device that multitasks or talks to a network is going to have hard limitations on meeting a strict timing spec, and yet, 8 bit arduinos are cheap, dependable, keep great timing, they boot in under 1 second, and the typical code for a single time-sensitive task often fits in a screenshot.? I treat the ESP32 and ESP8266 Arduino device as a specialist in talking to networks and I configure them
to self-reboot upon any sustained degradation of network performance, and also try to avoid giving ESP¡¯s timing sensitive work.? If the other Arduino keeps the protocol state, the pair can fully recover from one¡¯s intentional rebooting.? This ¡°two-Arduino combo¡± makes for some very robust solutions that just do their job without fuss, and self-recover from temporary network or power issues really well.?

Also on the other hand, for simplicity¡¯s sake, I have done installs where I skipped Arduino entirely, implemented RFID to Crestron where an access control system was already established, using established system¡¯s hardware to add one more ¡°door¡±.? But instead of powering a door strike, wired the door system¡¯s relay contact to a hard Crestron input. That solves all of the ¡°user enrollment¡± logistics ¡ª client uses their existing solution (which already supports enterprise features like scheduling, logging, and access rights) and treats the interface as though it were another ¡°door¡± that can be administered just like any other.? Crestron won¡¯t know who the user is, but depending on the use case, that may be no problem.?

Mike

On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 12:48?PM Lincoln King-Cliby via <lincoln=[email protected]> wrote:

I¡¯m using HID Prox (specifically MultiClass SE readers and generally iClass SE credentials) for access control at home ¨C ESP8266s running Arduino code handle the Weigand-to-Crestron conversion because OSDP (over RS485) is problematic for me (primarily because I¡¯m cheap, but the OSDP I¡¯ve played with has tighter polling requirements than I¡¯m able to achieve without making things grumpy).

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If you¡¯re pretty much anywhere in the US that already uses a card access control system there¡¯s a very good chance it¡¯s using a HID prox technology already ¨C either 125 KHz or 13.5 MHz ¨C and generally (except for certain Corporate 1000 custom encryption keys on the 13.5 MHz iClass side of things and some ancient Motorola Indlala-based systems) a MultiClass reader is be able to read any access token in common circulation (Outside the US there are some other formats like EM4200 that MultiClass readers can read ¨C but also some that they can¡¯t)

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The bigger challenge if you¡¯re looking to reuse an existing credential is managing expiration/loss/reissuance expectations so if this is at scale you may be better off looking at integrating with the access control system (either via API or doing slightly ugly things like treating the room like an elevator where every user unlocks different ¡°floors¡± (capabilities/presets)) so that (a) you don¡¯t have to put yourself in the actual card transaction and (b) when their card is reissued (because it was lost or expired) you don¡¯t have to worry about updating the token ID on your side of things ¨C it just works (or stops working, if the card was disabled)

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If you¡¯re living in a HID 125 KHz world, HID has a 54xx series reader that outputs RS232 over one way serial. It¡¯s pretty limited (no control over the beeper or LED, just spits out the card ID that it read with a line feed IIRC. (But 125KHz is also slowly dying off for institutional use because it in its most common form it is insecure as it allows for a fairly small cardholder population)

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If you¡¯re not worried about matching an existing credential ¨C there are a plethora of EM4200 readers that output RS232 but I don¡¯t have any that I would recommend and there are the same small universe issues that make it less appealing for a new install.

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Lincoln

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Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2024 11:34 AM
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Subject: [crestron] RFID in classroom AV system

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Hello,
I was wondering if anyone out there in the ether has experimented with using say an RFID card that recalls Crestron system presents? Trying to see how simple I can make the process for a professor. Allowing them to scan a card that pulls their usual setup so they have basically nothing to think of besides their lecture. Of course we would still employ some adjustments for if there is a simple change here and there. But mainly just spitballing ideas for now.

Thank you All

Re: Best HDMI Matrix Switcher for 4X4: Still AVPro Edge?

 

If you can try out the HDAnywhere MHUB2.0 4x4.? Price wise it's better and it comes with 4 HDBT receivers.? There is also a HDMI CEC driver for Displays as well.?


On Thu, Apr 18, 2024, 7:49?PM markcrestrongroup via <mark=[email protected]> wrote:
Best HDMI Matrix Switcher for 4X4: Still AVPro Edge? (vs. Atlona, Binary, Crestron, etc.)

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