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Cisco Touch 10

 

Has anyone seen a Cisco Touch 10 be the main control panel? I have a client asking me if it can control their projector, screen, and even the DMPS. Can it even be done??
crestron app had an update today... #crestronapp

 

First update in two years! (and perhaps the last one...)
They fixed the scaling issues with retina devices...
Bosch DCNM Dicentis #crestron

Jarid Shaw
 

Hey ppl of the interwebs I was wondering if any one has had any luck getting connected or getting information from a Bosch DCNM Dicentis system. I was hoping that the DCN module would work from the app store from Crestron but I haven't had any luck.?
Any help would make my day.

Thanks!!!
Re: Controlling Apple TV via IP - Any Recommendations/Suggestions for Modules or Built-Your-Own

 

It is working for me on Hulu, Netflix, Disney+, and YouTube.
Re: Controlling Apple TV via IP - Any Recommendations/Suggestions for Modules or Built-Your-Own

 

Hi Oliver,

Thanks for providing the these insights. Is this discovery step a one time thing during initial setup or how often/when does this occur?


Also, could you please let me know about this one from below:?
The Ultimation spec sheets notes "Elapsed Time" and "Duration". Does anyone know if this applies also to the various streaming services, e.g. Netflix or Amazon Prime?

Thanks much!
Re: IP CCTV into NVX system #axis #nvx #cctv

 

You can use the Axis?T8705 Video Decoder. It is exactly what you are looking for.
Re: Controlling Apple TV via IP - Any Recommendations/Suggestions for Modules or Built-Your-Own

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10/4 on the random reboot!
Re: Uploading CH5

 

Hi,

I have faced the same issue, Once you send the .ch5z file to Touchpanel either through Filezilla or Toolbox-->File Manager.
Go to the Text Control and type?PROJECTLOAD?Hit enter. It will upload the UI.
Re: Sonos S2

 

I have projects using CP3¡¯s with no problems controlling S2 products. No SONOS API change thankfully.
Re: Controlling Apple TV via IP - Any Recommendations/Suggestions for Modules or Built-Your-Own

 

I got the HK to work well on RMC3¡¯s and CP3¡¯s running bit fw v1.5 and 1.6 (latest FW). However both processors randomly rebooted every few days for no reason other than HK was enabled on the processors. Once I turned off HK the processors were both stable again. I have left them of for now, and using CEC and IR. I have also used both Intrinsic and Ulta¡¯s modules and both currently work well.?
Re: Controlling Apple TV via IP - Any Recommendations/Suggestions for Modules or Built-Your-Own

 

Hi Waffles,
The issue with the 1.6xx firmware is that the Crestron OS is diverting the mDNS discovery responses away from client listeners (such as ours) so the module has difficulty learning the location of the Apple TVs.? With Media Remote, this *has* to happen via discovery (rather then simply pointing your processor at a static IP address) as the port number is dynamically allocated by the ATV.
The behaviour is slightly different on router and non-router based 3-series processors - if you have a PRO3/CP3N, it won't work *at all*.? I you have a CP3, RMC3, MC3, DIN-AP3, etc. it *will* work when the Apple TV sends an unsolicited advertisement (which comes in a slightly differently to the normal discovery response) but this can take 5 mins+ to happen.
It's important to note that this is JUST for discovery.? After discovery, the module communicates with the ATV over unicast which is unaffected by the OS.
Another thing to note is, 4-series doesn't appear to have the same issue - though it's early days for the firmware here, so we're monitoring that carefully.

The 3-series issue is being actively discussed with Crestron engineering, but there's no sign of a fix at present.? This issue shouldn't be affecting Crestron's "native" Apple Home Kit integration - in fact, it's that integration that introduced the problem for us (or, at least, it happened at the same time).

All the best,
Oliver (Ultamation)
Re: Controlling Apple TV via IP - Any Recommendations/Suggestions for Modules or Built-Your-Own

 

I appreciate all the replies so far.

It seems I would need to downgrade the f/w on my CP3 to be able to properly demo the module. Hmm, not looking forward to this.
So before I do this, could anyone maybe let me know a bit more about the feedback I can get? The Ultimation spec sheets notes "Elapsed Time" and "Duration". Does anyone know if this applies also to the various streaming services, e.g. Netflix or Amazon Prime?
Re: Controlling Apple TV via IP - Any Recommendations/Suggestions for Modules or Built-Your-Own

 

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I doubt the HD Fury will work.? We used them on several projects to send 4K signals to 1080P displays.? But the later versions of DM firmware blacklisted the HD Furys.? But we were using them on the display side instead.

    
On 7/5/20 6:32 PM, Geoffrey Reynolds
      via groups.io wrote:

    

    

				
					
					

					



      
      

        
It should be noted that Crestron DM doesn't allow Dolby
          Vision to pass, so if the display being used supports Dolby
          Vision, passing AppleTV 4K through a DM isn't ideal.?
          Something I haven't tried yet is using an HDFury device
          between the AppleTV and Crestron DM input to see if modifying
          the EDID might allow it to work, but I don't think that would
          be a great solution for anything other than personal use.

        


        

        
I have tried out both the Ultamation and Intrinsic modules
          and both work just fine.

        

        


        

        
Geoff

        

        

        

          
On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 7:01
            PM Steve Kuehn <steve@...>
            wrote:

          

          

            
 There is also Crestron's AppleTV HomeKit however I
              haven't gotten it to work myself.? There is a Crestron
              bulletin that Apple broke the the Siri interface with an
              iOS update. However, it doesn't say it broken the non-Siri
              functions.

              

              There is also a Crestron CEC control module for the
              AppleTV4 if you are using a DM system and I did find it
              does work.? However, I didn't like the how the cursor keys
              worked so I use IR instead.? At least with IR, it is
              fairly unlikely it will break with an iOS update.

              

              

              
On 7/5/20 5:43 PM, keith.gossen via  wrote:

              

              
 I've tried a few of the "free"
                ones and they're good until the next Apple update. I
                have used modules from both and been happy. Doesn't
                Intrinsic offer a free module for integrators?? Thought
                they did so you could check it out.? 

              

            

          

        

      

      
    

    

  


					


				
				
				
			

			
			

	

	
			

			

				
					

				
				
			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
			

			


				
	



		
			
		
			
				
	
		
	

		
			

			
			

			
			
				
				

					

						
							
							

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It should be noted that Crestron DM doesn't allow Dolby Vision to pass, so if the display being used supports Dolby Vision, passing AppleTV 4K through a DM isn't ideal.? Something I haven't tried yet is using an HDFury device between the AppleTV and Crestron DM input to see if modifying the EDID might allow it to work, but I don't think that would be a great solution for anything other than personal use.

I have tried out both the Ultamation and Intrinsic modules and both work just fine.

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    There is also Crestron's AppleTV HomeKit however I haven't gotten it
    to work myself.? There is a Crestron bulletin that Apple broke the
    the Siri interface with an iOS update. However, it doesn't say it
    broken the non-Siri functions.

    

    There is also a Crestron CEC control module for the AppleTV4 if you
    are using a DM system and I did find it does work.? However, I
    didn't like the how the cursor keys worked so I use IR instead.? At
    least with IR, it is fairly unlikely it will break with an iOS
    update.

    

    

    
On 7/5/20 5:43 PM, keith.gossen via
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      I've tried a few of the "free" ones and they're good until the
      next Apple update. I have used modules from both and been happy.
      Doesn't Intrinsic offer a free module for integrators?? Thought
      they did so you could check it out.?

    

    

  







					


				
				
				
			

			
			

	

	
			

			

				
					

				
				
			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
			

			


				
	



		
			
		
			
				
	
		
	

		
			

			
			

			
			
				
				

					

						
							
							

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    Thanks for the info.? Yes I am using the latest CP3 firmware (1.6+)
    which could explain why AppleTV HomeKit did not work for me.

    

    

    
On 7/5/20 6:08 PM, waffles via
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      Both sites mention this issue:

      There
          is currently a bug in Crestron processor firmware 1.601.x that
          prevents device discovery from working properly. Crestron are
          aware and until it is fixed we recommend that you remain on
          firmware 1.503.

          

        I wonder if this is the issue you were experiencing.

        
      
    

    

  


					


				
				
				
			

			
			

	

	
			

			

				
					

				
				
			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
			

			


				
	



		
			
		
			
				
	
		
	

		
			

			
			

			
			
				
				

					

						
							
							

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The strange thing is that the devices still show up in the Apple discovery, they just don't maintain the connection.

I'll try the FW rollback and see if that does anything.

				
				
				
			

			
			

	

	
			

			

				
					

				
				
			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
			

			


				
	



		
			
		
			
				
	
		
	

		
			

			
			

			
			
				
				

					

						
							
							

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Both sites mention this issue:
There is currently a bug in Crestron processor firmware 1.601.x that prevents device discovery from working properly. Crestron are aware and until it is fixed we recommend that you remain on firmware 1.503.

I wonder if this is the issue you were experiencing.

				
				
				
			

			
			

	

	
			

			

				
					

				
				
			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
			

			


				
	



		
			
		
			
				
	
		
	

		
			

			
			

			
			
				
				

					

						
							
							

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I was able to get the Apple HomeKit to work sporadically.? All of the devices would appear in the management app, but the connection would drop and things just didn't work correctly.

I see that Crestron still has this listed in the Resi section of the Upcoming Products, so hopefully there will be an AHK 2.0 that actually works.

				
				
				
			

			
			

	

	
			

			

				
					

				
				
			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
			

			


				
	



		
			
		
			
				
	
		
	

		
			

			
			

			
			
				
				

					

						
							
							

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    There is also Crestron's AppleTV HomeKit however I haven't gotten it
    to work myself.? There is a Crestron bulletin that Apple broke the
    the Siri interface with an iOS update. However, it doesn't say it
    broken the non-Siri functions.

    

    There is also a Crestron CEC control module for the AppleTV4 if you
    are using a DM system and I did find it does work.? However, I
    didn't like the how the cursor keys worked so I use IR instead.? At
    least with IR, it is fairly unlikely it will break with an iOS
    update.

    

    

    
On 7/5/20 5:43 PM, keith.gossen via
      groups.io wrote:

    

    

				
					
					

					



      
      I've tried a few of the "free" ones and they're good until the
      next Apple update. I have used modules from both and been happy.
      Doesn't Intrinsic offer a free module for integrators?? Thought
      they did so you could check it out.?
      
    

    

  


					


				
				
				
			

			
			

	

	
			

			

				
					

				
				
			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
			

			


				
	



		
			
		
			
				
	
		
	

		
			

			
			

			
			
				
				

					

						
							
							

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I've tried a few of the "free" ones and they're good until the next Apple update. I have used modules from both and been happy. Doesn't Intrinsic offer a free module for integrators?? Thought they did so you could check it out.?

				
				
				
			

			
			

	

	
			

			

				
					

				
				
			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
			

			


				
	



		
			
		
	

	
	
	
	


	

		
		
		
		
		
	

	

		
		
		
		
		
	

	
	

		
		
		
		
	



	

		

			
	
		

			
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