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Re: Controlling Apple TV via IP - Any Recommendations/Suggestions for Modules or Built-Your-Own

 

I got the HK to work well on RMC3¡¯s and CP3¡¯s running bit fw v1.5 and 1.6 (latest FW). However both processors randomly rebooted every few days for no reason other than HK was enabled on the processors. Once I turned off HK the processors were both stable again. I have left them of for now, and using CEC and IR. I have also used both Intrinsic and Ulta¡¯s modules and both currently work well.?


Re: Controlling Apple TV via IP - Any Recommendations/Suggestions for Modules or Built-Your-Own

 

Hi Waffles,
The issue with the 1.6xx firmware is that the Crestron OS is diverting the mDNS discovery responses away from client listeners (such as ours) so the module has difficulty learning the location of the Apple TVs.? With Media Remote, this *has* to happen via discovery (rather then simply pointing your processor at a static IP address) as the port number is dynamically allocated by the ATV.
The behaviour is slightly different on router and non-router based 3-series processors - if you have a PRO3/CP3N, it won't work *at all*.? I you have a CP3, RMC3, MC3, DIN-AP3, etc. it *will* work when the Apple TV sends an unsolicited advertisement (which comes in a slightly differently to the normal discovery response) but this can take 5 mins+ to happen.
It's important to note that this is JUST for discovery.? After discovery, the module communicates with the ATV over unicast which is unaffected by the OS.
Another thing to note is, 4-series doesn't appear to have the same issue - though it's early days for the firmware here, so we're monitoring that carefully.

The 3-series issue is being actively discussed with Crestron engineering, but there's no sign of a fix at present.? This issue shouldn't be affecting Crestron's "native" Apple Home Kit integration - in fact, it's that integration that introduced the problem for us (or, at least, it happened at the same time).

All the best,
Oliver (Ultamation)


Re: Controlling Apple TV via IP - Any Recommendations/Suggestions for Modules or Built-Your-Own

 

I appreciate all the replies so far.

It seems I would need to downgrade the f/w on my CP3 to be able to properly demo the module. Hmm, not looking forward to this.
So before I do this, could anyone maybe let me know a bit more about the feedback I can get? The Ultimation spec sheets notes "Elapsed Time" and "Duration". Does anyone know if this applies also to the various streaming services, e.g. Netflix or Amazon Prime?


Re: Controlling Apple TV via IP - Any Recommendations/Suggestions for Modules or Built-Your-Own

 

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I doubt the HD Fury will work.? We used them on several projects to send 4K signals to 1080P displays.? But the later versions of DM firmware blacklisted the HD Furys.? But we were using them on the display side instead.

    
On 7/5/20 6:32 PM, Geoffrey Reynolds via groups.io wrote:

It should be noted that Crestron DM doesn't allow Dolby Vision to pass, so if the display being used supports Dolby Vision, passing AppleTV 4K through a DM isn't ideal.? Something I haven't tried yet is using an HDFury device between the AppleTV and Crestron DM input to see if modifying the EDID might allow it to work, but I don't think that would be a great solution for anything other than personal use.

I have tried out both the Ultamation and Intrinsic modules and both work just fine.

Geoff

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 7:01 PM Steve Kuehn <steve@...> wrote:
There is also Crestron's AppleTV HomeKit however I haven't gotten it to work myself.? There is a Crestron bulletin that Apple broke the the Siri interface with an iOS update. However, it doesn't say it broken the non-Siri functions.

There is also a Crestron CEC control module for the AppleTV4 if you are using a DM system and I did find it does work.? However, I didn't like the how the cursor keys worked so I use IR instead.? At least with IR, it is fairly unlikely it will break with an iOS update.


On 7/5/20 5:43 PM, keith.gossen via wrote:
I've tried a few of the "free" ones and they're good until the next Apple update. I have used modules from both and been happy. Doesn't Intrinsic offer a free module for integrators?? Thought they did so you could check it out.?



Re: Controlling Apple TV via IP - Any Recommendations/Suggestions for Modules or Built-Your-Own

 

It should be noted that Crestron DM doesn't allow Dolby Vision to pass, so if the display being used supports Dolby Vision, passing AppleTV 4K through a DM isn't ideal.? Something I haven't tried yet is using an HDFury device between the AppleTV and Crestron DM input to see if modifying the EDID might allow it to work, but I don't think that would be a great solution for anything other than personal use.

I have tried out both the Ultamation and Intrinsic modules and both work just fine.

Geoff

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 7:01 PM Steve Kuehn <steve@...> wrote:
There is also Crestron's AppleTV HomeKit however I haven't gotten it to work myself.? There is a Crestron bulletin that Apple broke the the Siri interface with an iOS update. However, it doesn't say it broken the non-Siri functions.

There is also a Crestron CEC control module for the AppleTV4 if you are using a DM system and I did find it does work.? However, I didn't like the how the cursor keys worked so I use IR instead.? At least with IR, it is fairly unlikely it will break with an iOS update.


On 7/5/20 5:43 PM, keith.gossen via wrote:
I've tried a few of the "free" ones and they're good until the next Apple update. I have used modules from both and been happy. Doesn't Intrinsic offer a free module for integrators?? Thought they did so you could check it out.?


Re: Controlling Apple TV via IP - Any Recommendations/Suggestions for Modules or Built-Your-Own

 

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Thanks for the info.? Yes I am using the latest CP3 firmware (1.6+) which could explain why AppleTV HomeKit did not work for me.


On 7/5/20 6:08 PM, waffles via groups.io wrote:

Both sites mention this issue:
There is currently a bug in Crestron processor firmware 1.601.x that prevents device discovery from working properly. Crestron are aware and until it is fixed we recommend that you remain on firmware 1.503.

I wonder if this is the issue you were experiencing.


Re: Controlling Apple TV via IP - Any Recommendations/Suggestions for Modules or Built-Your-Own

 

The strange thing is that the devices still show up in the Apple discovery, they just don't maintain the connection.

I'll try the FW rollback and see if that does anything.


Re: Controlling Apple TV via IP - Any Recommendations/Suggestions for Modules or Built-Your-Own

 

Both sites mention this issue:
There is currently a bug in Crestron processor firmware 1.601.x that prevents device discovery from working properly. Crestron are aware and until it is fixed we recommend that you remain on firmware 1.503.

I wonder if this is the issue you were experiencing.


Re: Controlling Apple TV via IP - Any Recommendations/Suggestions for Modules or Built-Your-Own

 
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I was able to get the Apple HomeKit to work sporadically.? All of the devices would appear in the management app, but the connection would drop and things just didn't work correctly.

I see that Crestron still has this listed in the Resi section of the Upcoming Products, so hopefully there will be an AHK 2.0 that actually works.


Re: Controlling Apple TV via IP - Any Recommendations/Suggestions for Modules or Built-Your-Own

 

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There is also Crestron's AppleTV HomeKit however I haven't gotten it to work myself.? There is a Crestron bulletin that Apple broke the the Siri interface with an iOS update. However, it doesn't say it broken the non-Siri functions.

There is also a Crestron CEC control module for the AppleTV4 if you are using a DM system and I did find it does work.? However, I didn't like the how the cursor keys worked so I use IR instead.? At least with IR, it is fairly unlikely it will break with an iOS update.


On 7/5/20 5:43 PM, keith.gossen via groups.io wrote:

I've tried a few of the "free" ones and they're good until the next Apple update. I have used modules from both and been happy. Doesn't Intrinsic offer a free module for integrators?? Thought they did so you could check it out.?


Re: Controlling Apple TV via IP - Any Recommendations/Suggestions for Modules or Built-Your-Own

 

I've tried a few of the "free" ones and they're good until the next Apple update. I have used modules from both and been happy. Doesn't Intrinsic offer a free module for integrators?? Thought they did so you could check it out.?


Re: Crestron Pyng Hub - Firmware Upgrade Failure - Unresponsive

 

For anyone interested, I have a new (open box, not used) PYNG hub that I'll sell for $ 150.00
If interested, send me an email to:
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Controlling Apple TV via IP - Any Recommendations/Suggestions for Modules or Built-Your-Own

 

I was wondering what is the best way to control a latest gen Apple TV via IP.

With a quick google search I found these products:
1.
2.

Does anyone have any experiences with one or the other, in particular in regards to robustness?? At first glance they seem to be fairly comparable, but with the intrinsic being 50% more expensive.
I am also interested in 2-way feedback. Apparently, both products offer it, but I could not find much detail.
The ultamation offers a 1 hr trial, but I have not done that yet.

Are there any other module options out there or even any documentation, so I could roll my own module?

TIA!




Re: Telus Optik in Canada

 

SO the file Ulw40001e that I was sent from wartyhogus cleared up the channel entry issue and the navigation issue BUT when using the "search" function, up and down don't work but work everywhere else.......

My original file is still working perfectly on the other 2 boxes without any issues. It's just the dam PVR


Re: Gateway channel

 

That's what it looks like


Re: Gateway channel

Tyler Stirtz
 

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Damn been using the gwexer so long thought it was a global command


On Jul 3, 2020, at 3:30 PM, keith.gossen <kgossen@...> wrote:

?Unfortunately the CEN-RFGW-EX does not have those commands


Re: Telus Optik in Canada

 

Last install I did was around 8 months ago. I used the ir driver Telus UIw40001e this worked well. Previously ion an older box I used the cisco CI430 driver .However some commands had the same issues you have had so I had to use the the Cisco IPN330HD for commands "last" and "back" .? i will try to upload the file?


Re: Telus Optik in Canada

 

Have you made sure they are the the Telus toggle or "Multi" codes? im not sure if they still use them on the new boxes but all of my previous installs have used them.?


Re: Telus Optik in Canada

 

The very latest. It was just installed last Friday. Both the working ones are the 4K wireless but they're hard wired. It's just the new PVR


Re: Telus Optik in Canada

 

What model of boxes are you using ? I have had the same issues with a few .